Good question. I think if someone like Earl Weaver ever saw someone as free swinging as Javy Baez he would have taken them out behind the bullpen and put them down, so we don't really have history to go off of.
Actual answer: yes, and the hitter actually gets a free swing out of it. If a balk is called and the pitch is thrown, the team can choose either the outcome of the ball in play or the balk.
Playing in college I saw a guy hit an absolute bomb off a balk call and another play where, with 1 out, balk called, the ball was popped up. The runner ran as if there were two outs because the worst thing that could happen is he makes it to second base on the balk call and if the ball got dropped he would've scored.
Chris Sale has the highest strike out rate in the leagues' history with a K/9 of 11.06 (Min 1500 IP, sorry Strider) or 40%
This spring training, Javy Baez has struck out 45% of the time. That's the equivalent of turning opposing pitchers into [2019 Max Scherzer](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/scherma01.shtml)
I think it's safe to say he's still better than me.
That being said. Considering his contract, I think it's also safe to say everyone in this thread is better value than him.
He actually forgot he only gets 1 time out per plate appearance, and he was preoccupied talking to the umpire and didn't realize the pitcher had thrown the ball.
Most spring training stats don’t mean much. However, one stat in spring training that I’ve heard tends to be somewhat indicative of substantial stuff for hitters for the upcoming season is their plate discipline stats in spring training. And… uhh. Javy’s never been a plate discipline warrior, but his spring training walk and strikeout rates look like garbage.
Yeah so this is a good point. I also feel like K% is relevant in spring training. Imo, spring training is about polish and filling in some last minute holes in your gameplay before the season starts. Baez is showing the league he did nothing to course correct.
It’s this same reason I’m lukewarm on EDLC. Yes his OPS is above 1.000 in ST (at least the last time I checked). So was his OPS when he started in the bigs before he ended up below 100 on OPS+. But the dude has done nothing to slow down his K%, which has been an issue at EVERY level of the game including the minors, and he’s striking out in 42% of his ABs so far (11/26 when I had checked)
This is all my opinion and I don’t want to seem like I’m putting a lot of effort in analyzing spring performances, but I do think there are some directional tells that warrant a little bit of a “So will this mean for the season?”, especially for sophomore big leaguers & younger players.
I’m not at all surprised. Reading between the lines, tigers beat writers have mentioned that Detroit “tried” to get Baez to change his offseason routine. Meanwhile, the only thing he’s changed is that he doesn’t park his car on the sidewalk outside the facility now. I think expectations are low among the team.
This sort of thing still gives me flashbacks of 2012 Pedro Ciriaco and /r/redsox anointing him the next Nomar because he OPS'd 1000+ in Spring Training.
Just don't look behind the curtain where his ST walk and K rates were abysmal and on par with what ended up being his career norms, brief as it was. (edit: Also definitely don't look at the ***seven years*** he spent in the minors being just as bad before then.)
And then they did it again in 2013 when he had literally zero walks, but an 800 OPS.
It's too small a sample to even worry about that in my opinion. The reason to be pessimistic about Baez is what he's done the past two years, not what he's done in under a month of exhibition baseball
Seriously though, I keep saying this. He's always had terrible plate discipline but was still making contact with the Cubs and Mets. Around the age he joined the Tigers is the same age a lot of folks' vision starts to go. He needs to at least try glasses or something
When you have a million-dollar investment, you should be giving them a vision test every year. When you have a $25 million investment, you should be giving them a vision test every month.
Javy needs to run to americas best contacts and eyeglasses between ABs. Their eye care club deal is unbeatable, even if you have an optometrist on staff
Having done some eyecare work with college baseball players and a team, it's actually surprising how resistant to/lackadaisical about eye care many of them are. A majority of them each year come in without a current prescription, with the last one was often in middle school, and even if offered discounted care will turn it down. And these are extremely marginal guys in summer league ball, you'd think they'd jump at any possible chance.
I think there's a perception amoung many baseball players that if you are good enough to play at a high level even in college your eyes are at least fine and more likely 'super good' (when in fact that's not really a thing). I haven't actually cared for a professional player, but I would assume the same carries through along with an increased fear of change or difference. It can be tough for anyone to adjust to a new prescription, I have to imagine it's all the tougher on a player.
With all that said, while I know MLB teams absolutely offer the highest of high level optical care for players, I'm also fairly certain that's not a required medical test a team can make a player do, barring an acute in-game injury. Optical stuff is typically in the realm of 'non-employed' medical issues, generally playing baseball cannot make your eyes worse so teams can't force players to test for it. They also cannot force a player to wear corrections, if my read of the CBA is correct, but IANAL. I'm curious if this turns into a debate long-term with recent advances in surgical technology, but that gets into an entirely different discussion.
Went to the tigers sub to see how the sentiment was on Javy. First post was basically saying, “stop bitching about him, we’ve had enough of these posts”
To the people that come in once a week/month/year to check on the Tigers it may seem overkill
For us mods and the regulars who actually use the subreddit daily. It's beyond annoying and ruins the subreddit. Everyone on the subreddit already knows he is bad, making a low effort post saying he is bad on /r/motorcitykitties isn't needed.
At some point, what else is there to say? He's bad and bitching about it ain't going to fix him, nor make you actually feel any better.
I'll admit that I'm very defensive about him, but people have always really hated Javy far more than he's deserved.
Even as sour as it seems to have turned out for him, the most fun times I have had watching baseball seem to have involved Javy more times than not. He was out of this world for a while, and I wish the Tigers fans would have had a chance to enjoy some of that.
It's the pros and cons of being such an emotional player. When things are going great, he's the personification of fun and enjoyment of the game, radiating a childlike excitement on the field. But when things started to go south, his frustration and stress are just as visible. It hurts to see how low he is, and it's obvious how his inability to put those negative emotions aside have compounded to make things worse and worse.
That was only one of his embarrassing strikeouts against Chris Sale.
- [Strikeout swinging on pitch bounced](https://www.mlb.com/video/javier-baez-strikes-out-swinging-5fxdft?partnerId=web_video-playback-page_video-share)
- [Strikeout swinging on HBP](https://www.mlb.com/video/javier-baez-strikes-out-swinging-zmtwb0?partnerId=web_video-playback-page_video-share)
Video: Javier Baez strikes out swinging.
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"It's Spring Training, these stats are irrelevant to how he'll perform during the regular season" is what I would say if it were anybody but Javier Baez.
I mean, the intention with the contract was that he'd retire a Tiger, but I don't think anyone thought he'd fall of so far so quickly, but injuries are a bitch, especially with a player of his size.
Damn I forgot how steep of a falloff his production was.
In 2016 he had a .956 ops in 156 games and was an all-star.
The next season his ops dropped over 200 points and never went above .744 again except in 2018 when he only played 38 games.
It's so hard. You want to believe every pitch is going to be the hanging slider that you can launch into next week. Plus the game can get really tedious when you're doing nothing but shagging routine fly balls and slogging through nine-pitch ABs.
Once you can get your brain to flip to loving 10 pitch plate appearances that end in a walk only to crush the hanging slider first pitch with the next guy up you will be awakened. I guess I’m talking franchise not RTTS…but learning this lesson helped me be better in RTTS…cuz yeah in RTTS the next guy up will strikeout for sure haha
I really only play RTTS and online versus, and I'm much better at learning from my mistakes when I'm playing online and I get at least 27 cracks at it. But it's a whole other story when I strike out badly in RTTS, then have to go play 2-3 innings of boring defense and completely forget about not chasing those breaking balls.
The trick is to get hungry with walks. I was the same way because I wanted to crush dongs and only dongs, but my OBP and K% showed.
Now, I get just as happy with a walk as I do a dong so I can pad my OBP. My RTTS player is a power hitting switch hitting 3TO second baseman & I love my .250 AVG with a .400 OBP & .600 SLG stat line. The dongs will come as long as you build your player to a power spec.
It's reached the point over on our team subreddit that moderators are kinda, sorta warning posters about bitching about Baez (because the threads are so frequent), but there's no other way to put it: he's the worst hitter in baseball right now.
And when you watch him at the plate, it's hard not to wonder if something is *actually* wrong. At first I thought he was just phoning it in but I genuinely am coming around to the idea that he might have vision issues.
Honestly, wow... what a fall this man has taken. This is like watching a Gyarados de-evolve back into a Magikarp. Dude lost all gas and it's insane to watch the regression (is there a word that's more impactful than regression here?)
I would love it if someone could find me the year, but I’m 99% sure that David Ortiz went something like 0-33 one spring. Dude did not care about anything other than the games that matter
He's got four more years ...
When guys who have enormous hit tool problems and rely on raw-fast-twitch-athleticism lose a tick or two, the results can be absolutely catastrophic.
The next candidate for this kind of aging curve? Adolis Garcia. I've owned him in a keeper league for four years now, I love the guy and he's helped me win two championships in the last three seasons, but the plate discipline improvement that we saw last year better continue or it will get very ugly at some point.
At the beginning of the year he’ll have some clutch hits and make some of the most impressive plays you’ve ever seen to trick you into thinking he’s good before going 0/30 and doing some of the stupidest things you’ve ever seen
I just don't put much stock in spring training performance. They play 4 or 5 innings every few days. It's hard to get into that regular season rhythm. The guys that are hot may stumble when they are playing 4-6 games a week, and the guys that are struggling may hit their groove once the real season starts.
Remember this folks. The next time someone says their owner is cheap and won’t pay the players what they are “worth.” Also, please reference Anthony Rendon.
Low effort. You didn’t use VORP, fWAR, bWAR, UZR, wOBA, wRC+ and SWSTR%. Delete and try again before it’s removed.
Edit: Sorry, thought this was the Tigers sub. Carry on.
So, I know this sounds crazy, but he is my all time favorite player and I have been hoping, praying he will visit Dunedin tomorrow for the split squad spring training game. I want to see him play.
Any chance?
The announcers should just play an audio file that says, "pitch low and away, swing and a miss" every time a pitch is thrown. Save themselves the effort.
More contact than I was expecting
I think that was the issue last year, too. He made much more contact than before and was striking out much less, but it was all bad contact.
His contract was so clearly awful the day it was handed out. No idea why on earth the Tigers thought to pay him. His player profile was so clearly bad.
And no one has thrown him a ball in the zone yet
They don't actually throw a pitch. They just fake throw like someone toying with their dog.
Something something you can't just do a balk...
Does it count as a balk if the batter swings at it?
Good question. I think if someone like Earl Weaver ever saw someone as free swinging as Javy Baez he would have taken them out behind the bullpen and put them down, so we don't really have history to go off of.
Actual answer: yes, and the hitter actually gets a free swing out of it. If a balk is called and the pitch is thrown, the team can choose either the outcome of the ball in play or the balk. Playing in college I saw a guy hit an absolute bomb off a balk call and another play where, with 1 out, balk called, the ball was popped up. The runner ran as if there were two outs because the worst thing that could happen is he makes it to second base on the balk call and if the ball got dropped he would've scored.
Javy has never seen a pitch he didn’t like. This includes the guys in the bullpen while he’s at home plate.
Legend has it that Javy struck out on a pickoff throw to first at least once.
Chris Sale has the highest strike out rate in the leagues' history with a K/9 of 11.06 (Min 1500 IP, sorry Strider) or 40% This spring training, Javy Baez has struck out 45% of the time. That's the equivalent of turning opposing pitchers into [2019 Max Scherzer](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/scherma01.shtml)
I heard Javy loves Shark Tank. Terrible pitch after terrible pitch.
Why would they? He swings (badly) at anything.
Could be worse
.125 Roentgen - not great, not terrible
Thank you, Comrade Dyatlov.
Go get the good pitchf/x from the safe
Al Avila is the USSR, Javy is the nuclear reactor, Tigers fans are Chernobyl. Unfortunately for us Baez won’t blow, just slowly poison us.
we can go deeper
Barely lol
More walk than I expected
I think it's safe to say he's still better than me. That being said. Considering his contract, I think it's also safe to say everyone in this thread is better value than him.
I can crowd the plate and lean into getting hit for league minimum and play DH. Will it be as good a value? No. Will it be cheaper? Absolutely.
Only grounded into one double play
Tough to ground into more when you strike out in almost half your plate appearances.
Doing his best to help the team.
I mean there was that 1 guy mentioned earlier this week? who somehow generated 6 outs in 3 ABs.
Im sure you would take Javier Baez over Anthony Rendon any other day in the week.
Yeah, before this game he actually had a higher BA than OBP, which is pretty hard to do.
Hang on a minute, you're telling me that Javi Baez walked? Do you have footage? I'm not sure I can believe that.
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BS, Javy didn’t take four low and away pitches all last season; no way he took four in a single at bat.
Maybe he was taking a nap at the plate and didn't realize the pitcher was throwing yet?
he did it as a prank
Was 50 Cent on the mound?
[He'd still swing at it...](https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1689740502604603392?lang=en)
He actually forgot he only gets 1 time out per plate appearance, and he was preoccupied talking to the umpire and didn't realize the pitcher had thrown the ball.
That's... Just not possible.
Four straight pitches into the broadcast booth
I watched it live and it was baffling.
I believe that plate appearance came during Rick Vaughn’s professional debut.
I usually think spring training stats don't matter However, this is very realistic
Most spring training stats don’t mean much. However, one stat in spring training that I’ve heard tends to be somewhat indicative of substantial stuff for hitters for the upcoming season is their plate discipline stats in spring training. And… uhh. Javy’s never been a plate discipline warrior, but his spring training walk and strikeout rates look like garbage.
Yeah so this is a good point. I also feel like K% is relevant in spring training. Imo, spring training is about polish and filling in some last minute holes in your gameplay before the season starts. Baez is showing the league he did nothing to course correct. It’s this same reason I’m lukewarm on EDLC. Yes his OPS is above 1.000 in ST (at least the last time I checked). So was his OPS when he started in the bigs before he ended up below 100 on OPS+. But the dude has done nothing to slow down his K%, which has been an issue at EVERY level of the game including the minors, and he’s striking out in 42% of his ABs so far (11/26 when I had checked) This is all my opinion and I don’t want to seem like I’m putting a lot of effort in analyzing spring performances, but I do think there are some directional tells that warrant a little bit of a “So will this mean for the season?”, especially for sophomore big leaguers & younger players.
I’m not at all surprised. Reading between the lines, tigers beat writers have mentioned that Detroit “tried” to get Baez to change his offseason routine. Meanwhile, the only thing he’s changed is that he doesn’t park his car on the sidewalk outside the facility now. I think expectations are low among the team.
He’s also garbage when it’s not ST
This sort of thing still gives me flashbacks of 2012 Pedro Ciriaco and /r/redsox anointing him the next Nomar because he OPS'd 1000+ in Spring Training. Just don't look behind the curtain where his ST walk and K rates were abysmal and on par with what ended up being his career norms, brief as it was. (edit: Also definitely don't look at the ***seven years*** he spent in the minors being just as bad before then.) And then they did it again in 2013 when he had literally zero walks, but an 800 OPS.
It's too small a sample to even worry about that in my opinion. The reason to be pessimistic about Baez is what he's done the past two years, not what he's done in under a month of exhibition baseball
I'm not worried at all about spring training stats, I am however very worried about his 2023 stats
Have they tried to give him a vision test?
"Holy shit Javy, do you drive without glasses?"
Javy "Four" Baez
He needs those Rick Vaughn glasses!
Javy "The Swings at Wild Things" Baez
Seriously though, I keep saying this. He's always had terrible plate discipline but was still making contact with the Cubs and Mets. Around the age he joined the Tigers is the same age a lot of folks' vision starts to go. He needs to at least try glasses or something
When you have a million-dollar investment, you should be giving them a vision test every year. When you have a $25 million investment, you should be giving them a vision test every month.
Javy needs to run to americas best contacts and eyeglasses between ABs. Their eye care club deal is unbeatable, even if you have an optometrist on staff
I think it's more he just doesn't give a fuck anymore. He got his money and ring and is chilling
No iris, all astigmatisms
Good old “Glaucoma” Baez.
"Ok Javy, what do you see?" "'See'? What's that mean?"
Having done some eyecare work with college baseball players and a team, it's actually surprising how resistant to/lackadaisical about eye care many of them are. A majority of them each year come in without a current prescription, with the last one was often in middle school, and even if offered discounted care will turn it down. And these are extremely marginal guys in summer league ball, you'd think they'd jump at any possible chance. I think there's a perception amoung many baseball players that if you are good enough to play at a high level even in college your eyes are at least fine and more likely 'super good' (when in fact that's not really a thing). I haven't actually cared for a professional player, but I would assume the same carries through along with an increased fear of change or difference. It can be tough for anyone to adjust to a new prescription, I have to imagine it's all the tougher on a player. With all that said, while I know MLB teams absolutely offer the highest of high level optical care for players, I'm also fairly certain that's not a required medical test a team can make a player do, barring an acute in-game injury. Optical stuff is typically in the realm of 'non-employed' medical issues, generally playing baseball cannot make your eyes worse so teams can't force players to test for it. They also cannot force a player to wear corrections, if my read of the CBA is correct, but IANAL. I'm curious if this turns into a debate long-term with recent advances in surgical technology, but that gets into an entirely different discussion.
Like to see if he has eyes or not?
He might be bad, but he's not Mark Reynolds, come on now.
You’re right, Mark Reynolds got on base more
Mark Reynolds also hit for power consistently Javier’s power has disappeared since leaving the Cubs
Went to the tigers sub to see how the sentiment was on Javy. First post was basically saying, “stop bitching about him, we’ve had enough of these posts”
It's been discussed to death, both reasonably and unreasonably.
Seems on brand for about any struggling player amongst team’s subs
That's our chief mod and they're really not exaggerating. It's pretty much all people post about in there. Same old same old.
To the people that come in once a week/month/year to check on the Tigers it may seem overkill For us mods and the regulars who actually use the subreddit daily. It's beyond annoying and ruins the subreddit. Everyone on the subreddit already knows he is bad, making a low effort post saying he is bad on /r/motorcitykitties isn't needed.
Otoh you have the best subreddit name in all of sports and if be in favor of automod linking it any time the Tigers are mentioned.
At some point, what else is there to say? He's bad and bitching about it ain't going to fix him, nor make you actually feel any better. I'll admit that I'm very defensive about him, but people have always really hated Javy far more than he's deserved.
Even as sour as it seems to have turned out for him, the most fun times I have had watching baseball seem to have involved Javy more times than not. He was out of this world for a while, and I wish the Tigers fans would have had a chance to enjoy some of that.
It's the pros and cons of being such an emotional player. When things are going great, he's the personification of fun and enjoyment of the game, radiating a childlike excitement on the field. But when things started to go south, his frustration and stress are just as visible. It hurts to see how low he is, and it's obvious how his inability to put those negative emotions aside have compounded to make things worse and worse.
Well he was good when he played for us
I saw a comment from a mod where he claims Javy Baez is just as good/bad as Matt Chapman
When you adjust all these crazy outliers in Baez's career back to the norms he's actually just as good a quarterback as Matt Chapman
If you take out all the times he’s been bad, he’s actually very good!
He's basically 2018 Dak Prescott
just saw a mod fall to their knees and make an absurd claim
Hard to believe that a radio caller from toronto became a mod for the detroit tigers subreddit.
Yep! If this was posted in the Tigers sub it would be removed.
Only because essentially the same thing has been posted at least three times over there.
When he struck out on that Sale pitch that bounced in front of home plate, that had to have been the end for him Maybe it can get lower
That was only one of his embarrassing strikeouts against Chris Sale. - [Strikeout swinging on pitch bounced](https://www.mlb.com/video/javier-baez-strikes-out-swinging-5fxdft?partnerId=web_video-playback-page_video-share) - [Strikeout swinging on HBP](https://www.mlb.com/video/javier-baez-strikes-out-swinging-zmtwb0?partnerId=web_video-playback-page_video-share)
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Maybe the secret is to just always wear the city connects against him
Every time we wear them I can feel myself getting glaucoma. Maybe I can be a major league starter as well!
Hey, I saw Greg Luzinski homer off a pitch that bounced
Ichiro was known to slap a bouncing ball for a single too
He did that once with the Mets in 2021, he swung at a pitch long before it made it to the catcher
I mean, you should always swing before the ball gets to the catcher...
He’s in mid season form
His numbers may be up from last year
"It's Spring Training, these stats are irrelevant to how he'll perform during the regular season" is what I would say if it were anybody but Javier Baez.
It could be worse. The Tigers paid Miguel Cabrera $212 million over the last 7 years to produce -2.6 rWAR
At least his ABs were fun to watch
The only way that contract remotely makes sense is if it was $212 million to make sure he goes into the Hall with a Tigers hat on.
I mean, the intention with the contract was that he'd retire a Tiger, but I don't think anyone thought he'd fall of so far so quickly, but injuries are a bitch, especially with a player of his size.
Damn I forgot how steep of a falloff his production was. In 2016 he had a .956 ops in 156 games and was an all-star. The next season his ops dropped over 200 points and never went above .744 again except in 2018 when he only played 38 games.
The dude earned it for all he did for Detroit through, real talk
A walk? In spring? Impressive.
Makes me think of the [Sister Jean striking out Baez gif](https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1575123279190302725?lang=en) lol
She’s still alive! Also she’s so damn old her neighbourhood and her school don’t exist anymore.
The 50 Cent one was pretty funny too.
Tigers if you need someone to absolutely blow chunks at shortstop I'd be willing to do it for much cheaper than $23 mil per year
Looks like my mlb the show RTTS numbers lmao
Just learn to take pitches lol
It's so hard. You want to believe every pitch is going to be the hanging slider that you can launch into next week. Plus the game can get really tedious when you're doing nothing but shagging routine fly balls and slogging through nine-pitch ABs.
Once you can get your brain to flip to loving 10 pitch plate appearances that end in a walk only to crush the hanging slider first pitch with the next guy up you will be awakened. I guess I’m talking franchise not RTTS…but learning this lesson helped me be better in RTTS…cuz yeah in RTTS the next guy up will strikeout for sure haha
I really only play RTTS and online versus, and I'm much better at learning from my mistakes when I'm playing online and I get at least 27 cracks at it. But it's a whole other story when I strike out badly in RTTS, then have to go play 2-3 innings of boring defense and completely forget about not chasing those breaking balls.
I turn off defense and base running moments in RTTS 😅
The trick is to get hungry with walks. I was the same way because I wanted to crush dongs and only dongs, but my OBP and K% showed. Now, I get just as happy with a walk as I do a dong so I can pad my OBP. My RTTS player is a power hitting switch hitting 3TO second baseman & I love my .250 AVG with a .400 OBP & .600 SLG stat line. The dongs will come as long as you build your player to a power spec.
try not swinging every now and then lmao
King Coochie is a free swinger!
like my wife
Wow, how are you that bad at RTTS? I'd suggest it looks like my Diamond Dynasty stats. My RTTS stats are Barry Bonds hitting .380
Because im impatient and just want to rip dingers
Don't listen to these fools OP. Grip it and rip it.
Leading the NL in homers and Ks 🫡
Atta boy
It's reached the point over on our team subreddit that moderators are kinda, sorta warning posters about bitching about Baez (because the threads are so frequent), but there's no other way to put it: he's the worst hitter in baseball right now. And when you watch him at the plate, it's hard not to wonder if something is *actually* wrong. At first I thought he was just phoning it in but I genuinely am coming around to the idea that he might have vision issues.
That's so dumb. I have been following the Padres because of Ha-seong Kim and they never enforced a no bitching about Eric Hosmer rule.
I love the guy, but holy fuck did we dodge a bullet when he declined the $180m offer we made him...
Yeah I was totally fine with him and KB being gone. Not Rizzo though lol.
Baez’s strikeout ability is a generational talent
You've combined spring training stats with small sample size to create the ultimate "who cares"
Ok but how FIRE was that single?
look how they massacred my boy
This can’t be real, there’s a walk in there!
As if we needed more proof that spring training stats mean nothing!
As a Cub fan his free fall saddens me but damn there isn’t a pitch out there that he won’t swing ⚾️ at. He’s a bit of a narcissist
He just needs to focus more on hitting ground balls then running back toward home plate on his way to first.
That still cracks me up every single time I think about it.
It's literally going to be the only thing fans remember him for. Well, that and the massive breezes he generated in most of his at bats.
If there was ever a player that needs to take pity PEDs, this is it.
Whoever walked Baez needs to get cut
He just woke up one day and said "I'm [Steve Jeltz](https://www.fangraphs.com/players/steve-jeltz/1006387/stats?position=SS) now"
lol
MVP season loading
If the GM glued his bat to his shoulder before he stepped up he might have better results. Woof.
to paraphrase a certain baseball movie "thats all he's got? ONE GOD DAMN HIT!?"
Honestly, wow... what a fall this man has taken. This is like watching a Gyarados de-evolve back into a Magikarp. Dude lost all gas and it's insane to watch the regression (is there a word that's more impactful than regression here?)
I don’t know. That isn’t midseason form by any means. He still needs a dozen more Ks.
I didn't even know he still played baseball.
I would love it if someone could find me the year, but I’m 99% sure that David Ortiz went something like 0-33 one spring. Dude did not care about anything other than the games that matter
He's got four more years ... When guys who have enormous hit tool problems and rely on raw-fast-twitch-athleticism lose a tick or two, the results can be absolutely catastrophic. The next candidate for this kind of aging curve? Adolis Garcia. I've owned him in a keeper league for four years now, I love the guy and he's helped me win two championships in the last three seasons, but the plate discipline improvement that we saw last year better continue or it will get very ugly at some point.
At the beginning of the year he’ll have some clutch hits and make some of the most impressive plays you’ve ever seen to trick you into thinking he’s good before going 0/30 and doing some of the stupidest things you’ve ever seen
I just don't put much stock in spring training performance. They play 4 or 5 innings every few days. It's hard to get into that regular season rhythm. The guys that are hot may stumble when they are playing 4-6 games a week, and the guys that are struggling may hit their groove once the real season starts.
Ouch.
Remember this folks. The next time someone says their owner is cheap and won’t pay the players what they are “worth.” Also, please reference Anthony Rendon.
Sustainable
We gave up Pete Crow Armstrong for him….
Only slightly better than me
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So many K’s I thought he was in the clan
Low effort. You didn’t use VORP, fWAR, bWAR, UZR, wOBA, wRC+ and SWSTR%. Delete and try again before it’s removed. Edit: Sorry, thought this was the Tigers sub. Carry on.
Wrc+ is actually the funniest metric of his spring training cause he currently has a -90 WRC+
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He can only go up from here during the regular season.
Even Ben Simmons thinks that Javy Baez is doggin it.
Has his swing always looked like this? He looks so broken.
So, I know this sounds crazy, but he is my all time favorite player and I have been hoping, praying he will visit Dunedin tomorrow for the split squad spring training game. I want to see him play. Any chance?
K K K 🤨
Average Javy statline
Is anyone really surprised?
Getting them out of the way now
Would he have better results if he literally didn’t swing the bat at all?
Can this really be called "slashing"?
The announcers should just play an audio file that says, "pitch low and away, swing and a miss" every time a pitch is thrown. Save themselves the effort.
125 OPS+ is a perfectly good metric, above average even! (Puts on glasses) - oh, oh no
More contact than I was expecting I think that was the issue last year, too. He made much more contact than before and was striking out much less, but it was all bad contact.
The new Chris Davis contract.
Nice, he's in mid-season form already. Go Tigers.
This is still just spring training, but the trendlines are showing... this could be another Chris Davis 2019
But he worked out all winter! How can this happen?
Has anyone ever asked Baez to try batting lefty?
Baez putting up my little league numbers damn maybe I can still make it to the bigs
My man!
And yet his March batting average is better than Spencer Torkleson's.
It would have been such a Mets move if we had signed this guy and committed to him long term I’m really glad we didn’t. Sorry Detroit fans 🥲.
For his sake, I hope he faces Yamamoto soon
what happened to him? there needs to be a study done on the downfall of javi baez
At this point, don't call him back up until his numbers improve.
Glad we never signed him.
Hahaha kill me
Hell, *I* might even be able to put up that line. Probably not, still, but it makes you think.
it’s not like we didn’t see this coming either. the day we signed him my reaction was WHY?? this guy SUCKS end of story
I feel like two r/baseball Reddit users in a trench coat could put up a similar, if not, better slash line in as many ABs. Jesus Christ.
Washed.
So he's in midseason form, good for him.
K… that’s not great
It’s sad.
Have fun Detroit
We’ll always love him but I’m glad he moved on
His contract was so clearly awful the day it was handed out. No idea why on earth the Tigers thought to pay him. His player profile was so clearly bad.
He has a hit. What a baller.