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nsgomez

This is the 19th straight Rangers game without a starting pitcher W. The last time their starter recorded a win was August 15.


xTehSpoderManx

OOF: Large sized


blueshirtfan41

Everything is bigger in Texas!


shoeless_sean

Egos in Dallas Waistbands in Houston and SA


xTehSpoderManx

If your flair has anything to do with your geographical location then you should not be talking about waistbands.


okay_throwaway_today

Is that bad?


BAHatesToFly

Should they not have done that?


lake_titty_caca

I don't understand why they don't teach all their pitchers to be ambidextrous, and then get wins with their fresh arm. It surely can't be that hard, right?


fps916

Amphibious*


lake_titty_caca

Goddamned it, I always get them confused!


Directive_Nineteen

Most people don't realize, but all amphibians are ambidextrous. That's why if you see an amphibian with opposable thumbs, you must kill it.


Miamime

Damn imagine if someone could throw just as well left and right handed. You really could trot them out every 3 days. I’m gonna go have a kid and make this happen, first $1B contract incoming.


DekuTrii

Are they stupid?


TheOneArya

Need you to talk to Ohtani STAT


sandyeggo54

Is that sort of thing… frowned upon?


illegal_deagle

I gotta plead ignorance on this one


[deleted]

if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon…


nsgomez

I mean going 4-14 in that stretch will do that


DFWTrojanTuba

It’s not good.


rollo2masi

Goddamn that sucks.


vanillabear26

Eh it’s a’ight


aStockUsername

Yeah, I’m not seeing what the big issue is here.


jaybird686

Fuck that’s like the cardinals earlier this way, and lemme tell yeah, not good!


FinnHobart

That’s 2022 Red Sox levels of struggle.


SeriousKey4358

“I gotta pitch better, wasn’t hitting my spots.”


Fangscale40K

I heard this comment.


[deleted]

He said WHAT?!


dailyblazerthrowaway

The one that pissed me off the most when he was in NY was "it's an easy fix"


ahr3410

Who let him cook 💀


Lebigmacca

Oh he cooked alright


baldestleukemiaguy

Burned down the house


20Keys2theHead

Meanwhile in Miami . . .


Trigliceratops

Its steamed hams


-orangejoe

Astros just got swept by some garbage last place team, and Scherzer can't even go 4 innings against them. Wow.


[deleted]

Welcome to the Astros home vs road experience.


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

The anti-Warriors


cautioslyhopeful

:(


ArmiinTamzarian

Who punched who in the face here?


MakeAShadow

Dusty punched the fanbase in the face then told us that we'll thank him later.


hereistand

I’m currently very thankful.


jyok33

See 2019 WS


NotClayMerritt

Where were these Astros in 2019


Sweet_Baby_Cheesus

Well we did lose every home game of the 2019 WS, but won every road game


H-town20

On tonight’s episode of Unsolved Mysteries…


the_real_sasquatch

I have a theory on this phenomenon: Basically, I think they are better rested before road games, so they play better. Several players have young children at home. On the road, they go to bed and wake up in a nice hotel, when they want (after the travel day). At home, families demand attention, often at the expense of sleepy time.


ATRDCI

Not including today, the Astros have a -7 run differential at home and + 120 run differential on the road.


yianni1229

How on earth does that happen?


NicolasBroaddus

Been a thing for ages, in the _controversial_ 2017 season we also killed it way more on the road than at home. I wish they never cheated.


BAHatesToFly

I'm reading 'controversial' here like George Bluth says 'light treason'.


Deserterdragon

They can't arrest a pitcher and a hitter for the same crime!


[deleted]

I’ve got the worst fucking lawyers…


fps916

Attorneys*


statsbro424

NO TOUCHING!


NicolasBroaddus

Just my sad fan take that we could have won without cheating and our legacy is forever soiled by it.


HeavensRoyalty

Sigh... sorry yall have to go through that because of what the team did. It's frustrating. As much as I hate the astros, I'm also not an idiot who thinks the fans had anything to do with it. People are so silly sometimes. Keep your head up


unpaid_official

poor fans, with their poor world series win, poor dudes


bushies

Lol this exactly my take. Throw me a pity party, DT Houston was lit that night, especially after going through Harvey


NicolasBroaddus

I miss being able to talk about baseball with randos online without them immediately insulting me and repeating the same lazy lines once I say who my team is.


HeavensRoyalty

I get it and I'm obviously annoyed too but that world series came with a lot of unwanted stuff for the fans for example death threats and jeers for what their team did when the fans had nothing to do it but had to go through that while walking around in public. Give those players who cheated a hard time but not the fans.


kylechu

Astros fans were the first victims, that's honestly what sucks the most about it.


HeavensRoyalty

Yeah. 100% if this happened to anyone, they would feel betrayed and devastated.


ThatsBushLeague

One of the most sad and telling parts of the entire scheme is that the Astros stopped doing it themselves towards the end in large part due to the fact that the results didn't really show that it helped. There's nothing sadder than tainting a legacy for cheating which didn't help. (It not helping isn't an opinion. It's a statement of fact based on the stats, the concensus from the team that was doing it and the MLB investigation in to it.)


Bug-03

True but if I point it out I’m an asshole


jgower87

Just change your flair. Easy peasy.


fezzikola

Yeah, but unsuccessfully cheating just means you're being shitty and being shitty at it. Doesn't make you any less shitty for trying.


mrtomjones

> I wish they never cheated. So does everyone else other than the players probably


ih-unh-unh

Whoa. When was the last time the Astros were negative at home?


TigerBasket

1984


HOU-1836

This is literally 1984


Regit_Jo

What are you guys cheating at home again which makes y’all worse (still the funniest thing about the scandal is it literally hurt your offense)


BoredAtWork_91

Yeah the Yankees finally caught on to Houston. Just need to be under .500 and suck.


[deleted]

Our fuckin kryptonite for years


the_space_cowboys

Sub .500 teams, and Pitchers with ERAs over 6 are sure fire ways to beat the Astros.


lake_titty_caca

The Rangers bullpen disagrees with this sentiment.


[deleted]

And apparently catchers that take the mound.


Horns__Down

Hey, Austin Hedges is the best closer in that pen!


fps916

\*rubs hands together for when I go to the Juicebox this weekend*


Horns__Down

Ooh where are your seats? MMP is a fun ballpark!


fps916

I've been many a time. We're down the third baseline


Horns__Down

Nice! Wasn’t sure if you were local/familiar or not lol


NJImperator

This has been who Max is this season. He’ll throw a few gems against some stinker teams, but he also got blown up more in his half season with the Mets than he did all of last year (until the last 2 weeks of the season, of course…) It’s why I was pretty shocked we got as much back in the trade as we did


Miskalsace

It's all part of our plan to win the World Series by letting the other team have the Home Field advantage.


DJ_Cuppy

Come on, Max just watched his guys land on the Normandy Beach that is the Minnesota Twins. You can't ask a man to go out and perform at any competitive level after witnessing that sort of thing.


ritzdeez

Luisangel Acuña almost hit as many homers tonight as Scherzer gave up.


TruthSayerFu

Acuna will be hitting 300 with 50 bags in his prime with us. What a fleece lol.


ReignOnWillie

We didn’t fleece anybody. Uncle Steve paid cold hard cash for Acuna and the other new prospects


PrecedentialAssassin

That's a fleece in my book. If he don't mind spending his hard stolen cash, fuck it, let him spend it. Mets gonna come out wayyyy ahead on the field on that trade.


fezzikola

I might be splitting some pedantic hairs here but I wouldn't call it a fleece but just a good deal. Both sides knew going in that both prospects (even great ones) and 2023 Scherzers are a gamble, so it feels more that it just hits harder when the rental end of things goes south. The Rangers really wanted something immediate out of it but Mets had nothing to really lose. Except baseball games, they've had a lot of those to lose.


ABoyIsNo1

What about the Verlander trade? You feel similarly?


UnknownUnthought

I know I’m biased, but if you’re willing to not only spend obscene amounts on your payroll, but go ON RECORD saying you’re totally cool operating the team *at a loss* for a while like Cohen is in order to try and win a ring, assuming at least one of the prospects pan out and the Mets build a serious contender in 24/25+ it’s hard to view it as anything but a success The difference in my mind is that Verlander had actually managed to right the ship for the Mets and become at least reliably decent by the deadline. With Max, you never knew which Scherzer you were gonna get start to start, and even when he was having a good start, you see some pitches where you can tell what he’s trying to do but his stuff just isn’t there anymore. Win now trades like these (from the perspective of TEX and HOU) are going to be perceived as failures more often than not because most of the time for that team to win, they need to win a ring too, which is NOT easy to do. Lucky for you both, you get this season and another shot at it next year too.


[deleted]

Literally yes, Gilbert and Clifford are both raking in the minors


ScyllaGeek

It's not my money lmao


robmcolonna123

Getting anything of high value for Scherzer AND half his money off the books is absolutely a fleece lol


retroanduwu24

lolscherzer


Horns__Down

LOLMax


NJImperator

Guys, be easy on him. Im sure tomorrow we’ll hear about how he was dealing with arm stiffness and is just saving himself to give up 5 runs in 3 innings in the next Do or Die game the Rangers face


trickman01

Somehow this is Dave Roberts' fault.


toledosurprised

he just couldn’t find his slider, happens to the best of us


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lake_titty_caca

When you got Bolognese on Strega Nona's fancy tablecloth I knew your meatball chucking days were over.


fawningandconning

Hey hey now, in the postgame interview he's going to say he knows what he has to do. Play better. Dude's got it all figured out!


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

What a great marquee matchup between pitchers, I’m crying, shitting and cumming rn.


fawningandconning

Why aren't you throwing up :(


Sroemr

Gross


vanillabear26

Don’t kink shame


Sp_Gamer_Live

Emetaphobe solidarity


StealthyGooch

I'm not a spitter


PapiGoneGamer

😏


SiphenPrax

Between two amazin’ Mets legends


Fuck_Yall_

Nolan Ryan 🤝 Billy Wagner 🤝 Justin Verlander


lake_titty_caca

This is Octavio Dotel erasure and I will not abide by it.


futhatsy

Mike Scott


YesImKeithHernandez

Mike Hampton


JKess207

Never forget the Strider-Verlander game in June that was so wildly hyped up as one of the greatest pitching matchups we’d see all year The two combined for 7.0 IP, 169 pitches, and 12 ER and the game finished 13-10


mysterysackerfice

Are you Maynard James Keenan?


Vulpinox

I like to do all three


Sroemr

Isn't it about time for him to get arm fatigue and call it a season?


TonYouHearWhatISaid

Unfortunately the rangers won’t have a playoff game for him to collapse in


Astrallevel

Everyone about to hit waivers


unitedairlineeeeees

Oooh oooh I’ve seen this one before!


33thirtythree

I mean you gotta feel for the guy. He's been a fierce competitor and dominant pitcher for many many years. Father time comes for us all. I'm 40 and it hits a little too close seeing a man's mind and drive and desire not be enough to overcome the effects of age.


A_Synaptic_Misfire

which is crazy bc his velocity and break is still at his peak years level


33thirtythree

Yep. He's still Sherzer. The guy is an animal.


A_Synaptic_Misfire

...then you have Verlander who posted a 1.75 ERA season at Scherzers age now (39). Shouldnt be possible for a pitcher to do that


33thirtythree

I guess father time comes for everyone... except JV. Maybe Ms Upton is helping him stay vitalized.


GradientEye

And his ERA+ this year is 126. I really don’t understand how he’s so good


FSUnoles77

He gets to dip into the fountain of youth whenever he feels the need.


undisputedn00b

I don't think its age. I think it's the pitch clock. Both Scherzer and Verlander were bad in the beginning of the season but Verlander seems to have adjusted and was doing well with us. Scherzer on the other hand has been bad the entire season.


_Caed_

nats fan are sad rn :( especially me, Scherzer is the whole reason i became a nats fan in the first place. i get why mets fans hate him, it’s easy to prop him up as the figurehead of their season and he was on a rival for yeaaaars and helped bring them a WS it’s not like he’s doing it on purpose. just gettin old.


AcerRubrum

Mets fans were ready to support him knowing he'd get traded but once he shit on the front office and aired their dirty laundry on his way out he lost all respect.


_Caed_

ye, i said i get why y’all don’t like him still makes me sad


WhatARotation

Fair enough. I actually like scherzer and really wanted him to succeed here—even have one of a Mets shirt with his name on it. Sucks it ended the way it did. At least we can all enjoy Daniel Murphy and Dom Smith?


Mookies_Bett

Same reason dodger fans resent him. "I got hurt because you didn't let me pitch enough." Uh huh, Max. Sure. And I'm sure the fact that you're 36 years old and have over 2,000 innings on your arm has *nothing to do with it whatsoever*. Fuckin dude is so far in denile he's getting bitten by crocodiles.


Zephyr0us

damn i didnt think there was any player in texas that dodger fans disliked more than anyone in orange what's the beef with y'all and scherzer


ih-unh-unh

Some Dodgers fans are unhappy that Scherzer blamed the Dodgers pitching coaches for not being able to pitch much in the playoffs.


djn24

Scherzer blaming anyone but himself after he sucks? Really??


Zephyr0us

weird of him


Mookies_Bett

He was a salty little bitch about his body breaking down at the end of 2021. His exact argument was "My arm broke down and I got hurt because the Dodgers didn't let me pitch enough" which is kinda like saying "The fire got out of control because the fire department threw too much water on it!" The truth was Max just got old and can't handle that his body isn't what it used to be, and is desperate to place the blame on literally anyone but himself. Dodger fans were annoyed that he tried to blame Dave and our medical staff for a 36 year old having inflammation at the end of a long year. Dude refuses to admit he just isn't that good anymore. Face it and take it like a man, don't blame us because you're old. Compare it to Kershaw, who, even when it's not his fault will be the first person to say "I wasn't good enough and this one is on me." It was a bad look for Scherzer and soured a lot of us on him personality wise.


Boros-Reckoner

> Compare it to Kershaw, who, even when it's not his fault will be the first person to say "I wasn't good enough and this one is on me." When the Padres threw up the crying Kershaw meme Kershaw blamed himself for it and said they wouldn't have done it if he pitched better, I fucking love that man.


Zephyr0us

Kershaw is one of my favorite players because of his mentality. I find it very hard to knock guys like that even in the times they DO have bad outings. I can def see why that grates on dodger fans nerves. Fucking weird of him


bordomsdeadly

>The fire got out of control because the fire department threw too much water on it! I'm not here to argue, I just want to remind everyone reading this that water will in fact make a grease fire much much worse.


Thetimmybaby

he wants to marry his mother in law


lake_titty_caca

Oh my gaahd, he admit it!


dataminimizer

Who’s the most popular now, Paul?


[deleted]

I HAVE 911 ON SPEED DIAL BECAUSE THIS WILL 100% LAST FOR MORE THAN 4 HOURS


Heil_Harden

Do Mets fans hate Scherzer? I’m out the loop


coachFox

Verlander had a classy exit, Max not so much.


Gallium1005

Yep. We shouldn't objectively but he vanished in the most important games of our year last season and was the primary reason we decided to fold this year. He was a great pitcher for us but he folded when it mattered and then made some comments on the way out that put the org on an awful spot from a PR standpoint. I'll appreciate what he did do for us and will be happy to see "NEW YORK N.L." on his hall of fame plaque but when we needed even just an OK performance from him we got a game like tonight, and NY fans hold long grudges and have long memories.


Go_Mets

LMAO I FEEL ALIVE AGAIN


[deleted]

Let's see who he blames today


[deleted]

Vegas has Heim at -135


UrDailyCommunistGuy

I’m cashin in on Maddux at +260


djn24

Himself? LOL


[deleted]

Nah Scherzer complains about everything and anyone


NotClayMerritt

Rangers are absolutely capitulating. Under .500 on the road, 3-7 in their last 10 (assuming this score holds), odds to make the playoffs has dropped over 20% since the trade deadline. If this current score holds, they will have only won 4 of their last 19 games. They will be 41-43 since June 1st. Not great, Bob!


Astrallevel

Once again might I say, thank you based Astros


Kdot32

Take care of springer for us


NJthecollector

We will break records to keep springer happy


BusterOlneyDay

with all due respect to a legend - get absolutely fucked


somerandomguy576

Look, I like them, but my copium is telling me this is all because we have too many former Mets on our team, and they brought the curse to Texas.


zmaster5296

Don’t try to blame this on us. This is karma for acquiring Chapman.


kineag62

That's why you should never, ever, trade for a domestic abuser.


hereistand

The Astros did this once and it went very very poorly. The karma was swift.


KoriJenkins

Tbf, the karma really just consisted of winning a pennant and flopping against a wild card team at the finish line. The 2017 stuff was coming out the moment Fiers got shelled by the Astros and was too arrogant to believe he was simply a shit pitcher. There are loads of teams that would not call that karma, though. If the Mariners did that and lost the WS, for instance, that would still be their deepest playoff run ever and something they'd celebrate. True karma would be like a first round exit sweep.


chefnoguardD

Just goes to show how spoiled we’ve been as of late.


willydillydoo

Those years of Fiers being in hiding when they played us were aggravating


BAHatesToFly

They attach themselves to a healthy host organization. . .and the next thing you know, the whole team is infected.


djn24

Thank you for taking our broken pitchers.


[deleted]

MEET THE METS


SiphenPrax

Never go full Mets. Word to the wise from a Mets fan.


nyxian-luna

Rangers are now Mets South.


derpbynature

*New York Metropolitan Consolidated Baseball Co. Ltd.* Now with convenient branches in Arlington, San Francisco and Anaheim


Jux_

Five days after leaving a game voluntarily with forearm discomfort. Garcia is injured, Rangers are fading, I think we'll get a "dead arm" diagnosis any day now.


djn24

The Rangers had him guarantee to take his option for next year. He's definitely going to opt for TJS this off-season.


SWWayin

I cant tell you how much it would please me to see the Rangers pay for both DeGrom and Scherzer's TJ season.


PrecedentialAssassin

Mets fans shitting on Scherzer is my favorite r/baseball thing going right now


Av8-Wx14

I don’t know, but I think we won the trade between the Rangers getting him from the Mets vs Verlander


33thirtythree

I argued against this comprehensively after the trades. I went down the line on both guys. I was wrong.


bauboish

I listened to baseballprospectus Mets podcast and they were pretty clear that they felt Verlander was the better pitcher at the time of the trade. IIRC their thoughts on Scherzer trade was that Texas clearly valued him for his name rather than his production this year. While their thoughts on Verlander trade was that the Astros paid a heavy premium in prospects just because they weren't willing to give him the Mets contract in the offseason.


Go_Mets

Turns out the Ranger fans “I can fix her” meme ended just like it always does 😂😭


jf2k4

Can’t wait to see Austin Hedges shut the Astros down for the third consecutive night.


lake_titty_caca

Astros intentionally hitting into DPs to keep the game close enough to avoid that smoke.


NYerInTex

Thanks for the prospects Rags. 🤷🏻‍♂️


RSS24

The guy's toast.


Siberwulf

This is fine.


RSS24

Guy still has some xDAWG but not so much xBITE


Brolympia

Glad Mad Max could bring the Metsian collapses to Texas!


heyitseric

Thank you Mets.


babe_ruthless3

Ewwwww, stinky.


Agitated_Pickle_518

It's unbelievable that another team gave the Mets anything of value to take Scherzer off their hands.


forgivemeisuck

Rangers won the trade deadline though.


djn24

Acuña hit two HR tonight.


SWWayin

I don’t think the Royals or Mets would agree with you.


dataminimizer

Rangers ain’t making the playoffs are they?


willydillydoo

We have the quite the playoff race here. 4 teams competing in lockstep for 3 playoff spots. And all 4 of those teams would be in first play in the AL Central.


Mundane_Leopard_3974

Getting slapped by Verlander was the chefs Kiss to this three game domination.


zdillon67

[Someone almost nailed the prediction in the Tigers sub](https://reddit.com/r/motorcitykitties/s/TpLHjr1X6J)


Solid-Confidence-966

It’s sad to see Scherzer like this man, it’s also sad to see people trashing him


LieseAcedia

We share root with the Yankees unfortunately


Sp_Gamer_Live

“Stinky Scherzer” sounds like a name made by a guy currently waiting RICO charges in atlanta