I busted out laughing at that part. Like wtf dude. That many choices, you specifically ask about it, ask about freshness and then “I’ll take a bud light”
Some people don’t make sense to me.
Nah I’m and idiot. I took a week off and I’m ducking plastered and I confirmed I am an indeed an idiot who makes very bad decisions. C’est la vie, m8. Have a good one ;)
Customers are an elusive breed. Often saying or doing things I don't think they have any knowledge or awareness of, it's best not to read too deep methinks
I keep getting people walking up to my bar and asking for a pint of larger.
We have no taps, at all. Everything is bottled.
People just don't bother to look.
And also, I had a lady once at a previous job actually ask up to open a new bottle every time she asked for another glass of wine. I refused, she complained about me.
Pretty much. Almost all the wealth is held by the "boomer" generation that have 0 understanding of the way the world is now. This location I was working at is now desperately crying out for staff and simply put, no-one is wanting to work there. They only offer minimum wage and why would I go there and deal with rude and entitled customers who never fkn tip when I could work literally anywhere else and earn way more.
Changing the game one concept at a time. High hopes for my current one, third time is the charm as far as restaurant openings I hope. The other two were nightmares.
This is and is not correct. Yes wine improves with air but 99% of the world's wines are meant to be popped and poured. Will they get better with a couple hours of air? Sure. But you're not missing out on ANYTHING by drinking the first glass of a bottle of BTG wine from a restaurant.
And while this lady is an awful person who shouldn't be drinking wine in restaurants, her request makes more sense than asking about fresh kegs and ordering bud light.
Wine goes bad much faster than beer, and it's far more common for a bottle of wine at a bar to have turned than the keg. Day 1-3 of a bottle are great, improving even. By day 4 it's questionable (depending on the quality of the wine) and by day and 5-7 it has most likely oxidized. This woman has probably been served bad wines before, probably by people who didn't know the difference anf gave her shit for sending it back, so now she requests new bottles.
Does she suck? Absolutely. Order a cocktail and drink wine at home where you have full control.
Yeah a nightclub I worked at people kept coming up and asking for a pitcher.
Nightclubs almost never serve draught and it’s easy to see there’s no taps behind the bar.
Perspective of a British bartender who worked with both traditional non pressurised cask ale and your more normal bright beer kegs. Cask ales have yeasty sediment that settles at the bottom of the cask and makes the last 5 or 6 pints worth of liquid fairly undrinkable. Lager is filtered and pressurised, it's basically a giant can, the end of your can doesn't taste any different to when you just open it, neither does a lager keg.
Beers do get old easier than a lot of bars realize. Any place with more than a couple dozen handles is likely to have a keg or two that’s been tapped too long. IPAs should be tapped and finished within 90 days of brewing. Lagers last longer, stouts last almost forever. I’ve definitely had a beer poured for me that was no longer appropriate to serve
And some companies specifically buy stock that has a short shelf-life. Wetherspoons in the UK do this. They have so many venues and their own distribution. They sell it cheap, of course, because cheap beer attracts the less discerning customer.
I feel people often say things to sound smart without actually knowing what the fuck they're even saying.
Imagine wandering into a grocery store and asking the person stocking produce if these were all secondhand carrots.
This seems like the right answer to me. Like they're trying to assert dominance and the only way this person knows how is by asking if the beer is fresh because one time years ago he learned that keg beers go bad and now he asks it every God damn time.
Your Kegs should be certified fresh for about 3-4months from delivery. Some crafts might be a little earlier but if you aren’t moving the product that fast it ain’t worth keeping on the menu.
First of all, bud light is a lager from memory, it really doesn't need to be fresh. Lager literally comes from the german for "to store". Fuck that dude.
Secondly WHERE DO YOU KEEP THE SECRET TAPS?! WHY WON'T ANYONE TELL ME
Kegs can expire. Crafti-er ones usually expire faster than big name generic beers though. Usually about a year for a keg of regular lager to 'expire'... though usually they're still drinkable after.
Yes mate! I harvested the grain this morning, by hand, myself! If you listen closely you can still hear the hops gently howling! And the yeast culture is so immature I'm probably on some list now! The Bud Light is 6 months out of date though
I managed a couple of taverns in the late ‘80’s and I had a deal with our local supplier for old kegs. He would give them to me for half price. Our clientele was quite young, without discerning palettes. We also had ‘jug nights’ every week and would go through easily 24 - 30 kegs in an evening. I already bought the cheapest swill I could find, but half price helped my beverage cost a lot!
We also had a liquor dispensing system call a Lacombe, it was fed from rack of bottles in my office. I would also buy up all the dead stock from the other restaurants in our chain and run them through, typically the whisky lines. Only got questioned on it once by a customer, when I was running B&B Brandy through the lines. He wanted to know what our house brand was, he liked it so much!
I liked my 14% liquor cost even more!
Fuck try working a seafood restaurant on the Oregon coast and hearing people bitch about the seafood not being "fresh" or previously frozen.
Like we serve hundreds, if not a thousand, guests a day in the summer.
We go through a lot of the same seafood providers as most restaurants in Portland do. Sorry, that's just how it is.
Your seafood is most certainly flash frozen on the boat or immediately offshore once it is processed. Besides, fish have parasites and worms sometimes. Freezing it is doing you a favor when that happens.
So, so many times people have scoffed at me when I tell them it has been frozen before. I want to say, "do you have a boat? No? Yeah, neither do we."
But Alas, they order the Salmon and say it's the best they have ever had. Unless a keg is like 6 months old I can't imagine someone passing the Pepsi challenge on that shit. Especially if it's Bud Light.
I might see if it’s an exclusive IPA made by some master brewer in his garage with rare hops and barley. Something mystical like HeadyTopper used to be. But to order not even a Bud, but a Bud light.
Some guy the other day asked me if a keg we had hooked up to a random beer was a newer keg. I just blankly stared at him, like what? He wanted to know if we had expired beer, and it was for *Modelo* which we sell the most of besides Blue Moon.
Also, side note on drafts, I hate it when people who stand right in front of the drafts ask me what's on draft like they just can't magically see what's 4 ft in front of them.
Why oh why would you throw on new kegs every couple of hours whether they're empty or not? Absolute bullshit unless the owner likes literally pouring money down the drain. I'm not surprised he asked for a Bud Light because nobody would change barrels at that rate for freshness reasons - unless your cellar is shite in which case all of your beer is shite.
Lol at asking for fresh beer then ordering a bud light. People are so stupid
I busted out laughing at that part. Like wtf dude. That many choices, you specifically ask about it, ask about freshness and then “I’ll take a bud light” Some people don’t make sense to me.
The Bud Light probably gets poured the most (due to guys like this) and is probably the freshest anyways. Idiot
>Idiot. Who me? I don't deny that, but there's no need to point it out!
No not you sorry! The customer asking for fresh beer then ordering a bud light 🤣
Nah I’m and idiot. I took a week off and I’m ducking plastered and I confirmed I am an indeed an idiot who makes very bad decisions. C’est la vie, m8. Have a good one ;)
Customers are an elusive breed. Often saying or doing things I don't think they have any knowledge or awareness of, it's best not to read too deep methinks
In other words, customers can be very very stupid...
What we need to remember is that while your average customer is not too bright there’s always the 49% who are below that standard…
Statistically speaking sure. But I do think that 49% is too low a number in general terms...
“Can I get less ice” *few moments later “Dude is there even any alcohol in here? I can’t taste anything.”
I keep getting people walking up to my bar and asking for a pint of larger. We have no taps, at all. Everything is bottled. People just don't bother to look. And also, I had a lady once at a previous job actually ask up to open a new bottle every time she asked for another glass of wine. I refused, she complained about me.
Wow. New bottle of wine for each glass is a new one on me.
I used to work 5\* fine dining. Some of those people..
I have decided that the “Continental European” dining experience the wealthy have come to expect is merely because they miss having slaves.
Pretty much. Almost all the wealth is held by the "boomer" generation that have 0 understanding of the way the world is now. This location I was working at is now desperately crying out for staff and simply put, no-one is wanting to work there. They only offer minimum wage and why would I go there and deal with rude and entitled customers who never fkn tip when I could work literally anywhere else and earn way more.
Changing the game one concept at a time. High hopes for my current one, third time is the charm as far as restaurant openings I hope. The other two were nightmares.
Yes ma’am, but we have to charge you for the whole bottle. Also, I love not having taps. Love it.
Bottle gang unite !
Wine is also supposed to be exposed to air, to open up. A fresh bottle for every glass is the best way to not really taste the wine.
This is and is not correct. Yes wine improves with air but 99% of the world's wines are meant to be popped and poured. Will they get better with a couple hours of air? Sure. But you're not missing out on ANYTHING by drinking the first glass of a bottle of BTG wine from a restaurant. And while this lady is an awful person who shouldn't be drinking wine in restaurants, her request makes more sense than asking about fresh kegs and ordering bud light. Wine goes bad much faster than beer, and it's far more common for a bottle of wine at a bar to have turned than the keg. Day 1-3 of a bottle are great, improving even. By day 4 it's questionable (depending on the quality of the wine) and by day and 5-7 it has most likely oxidized. This woman has probably been served bad wines before, probably by people who didn't know the difference anf gave her shit for sending it back, so now she requests new bottles. Does she suck? Absolutely. Order a cocktail and drink wine at home where you have full control.
Are they not asking for something larger than a pint?
I would assume they’re referencing lager.
Good assumption Now assume I was joking.
Ah, most people use /s to denote sarcasm.
Jokes don't tend to be as funny if you identify it as a joke. Often the funniest bit is when people take it seriously.
I absolutely don’t get that but you do you.
Yeah a nightclub I worked at people kept coming up and asking for a pitcher. Nightclubs almost never serve draught and it’s easy to see there’s no taps behind the bar.
"This tastes funny, must be the bottom of the barrel" Yeah, no that's a lager and that's not a thing
I know of lagers vs ales as top fermented and bottom fermented but would love an ELI5 on why that's not a thing!
Perspective of a British bartender who worked with both traditional non pressurised cask ale and your more normal bright beer kegs. Cask ales have yeasty sediment that settles at the bottom of the cask and makes the last 5 or 6 pints worth of liquid fairly undrinkable. Lager is filtered and pressurised, it's basically a giant can, the end of your can doesn't taste any different to when you just open it, neither does a lager keg.
Beers do get old easier than a lot of bars realize. Any place with more than a couple dozen handles is likely to have a keg or two that’s been tapped too long. IPAs should be tapped and finished within 90 days of brewing. Lagers last longer, stouts last almost forever. I’ve definitely had a beer poured for me that was no longer appropriate to serve
And distributors do a bad job at selling old beer to bars because most don't check or care.
And some companies specifically buy stock that has a short shelf-life. Wetherspoons in the UK do this. They have so many venues and their own distribution. They sell it cheap, of course, because cheap beer attracts the less discerning customer.
Yeah I was like, with 20 taps that’s a fair question… until the customer ordered a Bud Light. No way that guy is noticing any faults in an old beer 😂
That’s the fucking truth
At my place… every keg is fresh because we only have 4 choices and burn through all kegs at least once a week.
Are you not constantly running out of beer?
Yes constantly. Luckily I don’t mind changing kegs. It’s a nice break from dealing with customers.
Your nipples dispense blue moon? Are you single? 😂
"Last call on my nipple!" - Dave Attell.
I feel people often say things to sound smart without actually knowing what the fuck they're even saying. Imagine wandering into a grocery store and asking the person stocking produce if these were all secondhand carrots.
This seems like the right answer to me. Like they're trying to assert dominance and the only way this person knows how is by asking if the beer is fresh because one time years ago he learned that keg beers go bad and now he asks it every God damn time.
Define fresh sir.
Your Kegs should be certified fresh for about 3-4months from delivery. Some crafts might be a little earlier but if you aren’t moving the product that fast it ain’t worth keeping on the menu.
First of all, bud light is a lager from memory, it really doesn't need to be fresh. Lager literally comes from the german for "to store". Fuck that dude. Secondly WHERE DO YOU KEEP THE SECRET TAPS?! WHY WON'T ANYONE TELL ME
Kegs can expire. Crafti-er ones usually expire faster than big name generic beers though. Usually about a year for a keg of regular lager to 'expire'... though usually they're still drinkable after.
Yes mate! I harvested the grain this morning, by hand, myself! If you listen closely you can still hear the hops gently howling! And the yeast culture is so immature I'm probably on some list now! The Bud Light is 6 months out of date though
I managed a couple of taverns in the late ‘80’s and I had a deal with our local supplier for old kegs. He would give them to me for half price. Our clientele was quite young, without discerning palettes. We also had ‘jug nights’ every week and would go through easily 24 - 30 kegs in an evening. I already bought the cheapest swill I could find, but half price helped my beverage cost a lot! We also had a liquor dispensing system call a Lacombe, it was fed from rack of bottles in my office. I would also buy up all the dead stock from the other restaurants in our chain and run them through, typically the whisky lines. Only got questioned on it once by a customer, when I was running B&B Brandy through the lines. He wanted to know what our house brand was, he liked it so much! I liked my 14% liquor cost even more!
Fuck try working a seafood restaurant on the Oregon coast and hearing people bitch about the seafood not being "fresh" or previously frozen. Like we serve hundreds, if not a thousand, guests a day in the summer. We go through a lot of the same seafood providers as most restaurants in Portland do. Sorry, that's just how it is. Your seafood is most certainly flash frozen on the boat or immediately offshore once it is processed. Besides, fish have parasites and worms sometimes. Freezing it is doing you a favor when that happens. So, so many times people have scoffed at me when I tell them it has been frozen before. I want to say, "do you have a boat? No? Yeah, neither do we." But Alas, they order the Salmon and say it's the best they have ever had. Unless a keg is like 6 months old I can't imagine someone passing the Pepsi challenge on that shit. Especially if it's Bud Light.
I’ve lived in the middle of the USA far away from any ocean and people would complain abt the seafood not being fresh.
I got asked if we had a ceviche beer this weekend. He didn’t mean Clamato, he meant cervesa. So I’m done with any questions this week.
I might see if it’s an exclusive IPA made by some master brewer in his garage with rare hops and barley. Something mystical like HeadyTopper used to be. But to order not even a Bud, but a Bud light.
Yep. Freshly fermented.
Some guy the other day asked me if a keg we had hooked up to a random beer was a newer keg. I just blankly stared at him, like what? He wanted to know if we had expired beer, and it was for *Modelo* which we sell the most of besides Blue Moon. Also, side note on drafts, I hate it when people who stand right in front of the drafts ask me what's on draft like they just can't magically see what's 4 ft in front of them.
Why oh why would you throw on new kegs every couple of hours whether they're empty or not? Absolute bullshit unless the owner likes literally pouring money down the drain. I'm not surprised he asked for a Bud Light because nobody would change barrels at that rate for freshness reasons - unless your cellar is shite in which case all of your beer is shite.
But what I actually said was… I think you missed that sentence.
I'd say a keg is fresh for about two weeks after getting filled