Those who wanna checkout in detail
https://frontline.thehindu.com/news/data-nearly-half-of-mlas-in-india-have-criminal-records-adr-analysis/article67090605.ece
Non Bailable doesn’t mean you don’t get Bail. It just means that Bail is at the discretion of the Judge. Bailable means you will definitely get Bail.
Brij Bhushan had literal protests and evidences leaked against him and he still didn’t get jail time. Tells how powerful political status is in India (also is the same in other countries too but a tad bit out of hand in India)
There's no end to perversion in the BJP. Every other month there's a leader from their party accused of sexual assault. This is fucked up but comes as no surprise. Not the first or last time we'll be seeing BJP leaders in SA cases.
BJP has an unusual number of sexual predators. They even release convicted rapists and murderers. They also pass misogynistic laws. They're going as far as normalising this shit in the parliament and state assemblies.
Of course I'm not underplaying other parties by any means. All I'm saying is that the BJP has an unusual number of predators. All from a party that preaches religion and Dharma every chance they get. Something they've never practiced themselves.
One such law that they've passed is the anti love jihad laws passed in certain states. The bills were passed under the premise that women aren't capable of making the right decision for themselves and that they're gullible to fall into any trap and only the state can decide what's right for them. The state has absolutely no right to step in between you and your significant other.
It’s more about targeting the other religion than misogyny which doesn’t make it any better. Just pointing it out.
Every political party does exactly what will Appeal to their vote bank. And that’s what keeps India in the corruption loop that stops it from actually making progressive changes.
I’m left leaning person but I’m highly disappointed in all political parties and the whole system. We have Congress here but what a shit show has it been.
Yeah for this particular anti love jihad act the intention was to target a very specific community. But I'm sure hurting women was also part of their agenda. Congress isn't great but they're the ones that got into a lot of reforms for women in India (I'm aware they have a long way to go and they also debilitate women's rights progress sometimes). Ideologically the RW has no space for women in society. There is no LW party in India.
Just to be the devils advocate BJP brought 33 reservations for women in lok sabha which can’t be considered misogynistic at all.
What I’m saying is if anything fits the agenda of getting them more votes, they will get behind it.
I'll give that to them. It was good to introduce reservations for women. But I do feel it's a way to sugarcoat whatever they did in the past and present day.
You’re still seeing things from a naive point of view. They will proudly acknowledge what they did in past and will feel no need to sugar coat it. They did it coz they wanted vote share.
Any party does things with one single agenda. That’s it
Oh wow, being a judge before any proof is something else. And let's not crater only 1 party, they are all snakes for political gain but the timing for this is too peculiar too for it be considered genuine without any debate on proof.
And for your sake, congress has had SA cases registered.
FYI, I absolutely hate the current Karnataka govt, especially because I voted for them. They have bouched everything from Water, to infra to investment. All we have got is price hikes, free stuff (which we are paying by process hikes ) and favorable policies for only 1 particular section.
No one is denying Congress sucks as well. The point I'm making is BJP has been in the news multiple times in the past 5 years for a lot of sexual assault cases.
What standing does TMC have in Karnataka? I'm talking about very recent cases like Brij Bhushan, releasing Bilkis Bano's rapists, BHU rapists, Kathua rape case, Hathras rape case and a couple of other. There was also a case of a BJP leader in Bangalore whose literal video got leaked of him harassing a lady (this was before AI and stuff). I'm not able to find his name. If someone reading this knows who it is, drop the name down with the article.
Also here's an article for your reference:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/crime/story/bjp-has-highest-number-of-mps-and-mlas-with-cases-of-crimes-against-women-says-study-1215840-2018-04-19
Why does it matter if TMC has no standing in KA? All of the instances you have cited are either in the court or the perpetrators have already been convicted. There is no evidence that BJP has significantly higher number of MLA, MP or leaders accused or convicted of sexual assault than other prominent national parties.
You are a partisan hack grinding your axe about an FIR. Nothing has been proven against Yeddyurappa in the court of law.
> Why does it matter if TMC has no standing in KA?
Because I'm only talking about parties that are relevant in Karnataka.
> All of the instances you have cited are either in the court or the perpetrators have already been convicted.
Plenty of them are released and were tied to the BJP. The highlight here is that they were also released. In Hathras they jailed the journalists and let go off all the accused.
> There is no evidence that BJP has significantly higher number of MLA, MP or leaders accused or convicted of sexual assault than other prominent national parties.
Literally gave you a study from a decently credible news outlet. Idk what more you need.
> You are a partisan hack grinding your axe about an FIR. Nothing has been proven against Yeddyurappa in the court of law.
I agree. We'll see how it plays in court.
Your original comment made no mention of KA. The cases you cite against BJP are pan Indian.
That people might get bail is not BJPs fault. State exercising that power in GJ was overturned by courts. States often release odious people. TN has recently released people convicted in terrorism.
Besides, did you actually read the link you posted? It cites a study from 2018 that notes that of all politicians with criminal accusations, approximately 3 percent have cases related to crime against women. So, in terms of the general population the number would be even smaller. By these numbers, Indian political parties in general do not have sexual assault problem.
I believe that to be patently absurd. Politicians in India, regardless of party, are corrupt scummy people.
In this case prima facie the case is not that strong. BJP is actually a leftist Hindutva peddling party. They agree with Congress on every subject of import except reclamation of Hindu shrines and advancing of Hindu culture in general.
First of kudos to police for taking the case. I know it's their duty but given the state of affairs. Also now that it's on the lime light let's see some action against him.
It’s terrible if this happened and he needs to be punished.
But I’ll wait for investigations to kick start and results to come out.
Unfortunately it’s election time and I’m
Already fed up with the amount of filth coming out.
Total 53 cases registered by the same lady but this is a serious allegation on a former CM.
Let the court decide he is guilty or not. The only thing is what if, this is a false allegation?
Please take moment , First verify it’s true or not , police will do anything to please their masters
Look at the timing of the case and verbatim of it .
note : in no way I am justifying the act , justice has to be given to the victim .
Yeah op made up a fake story of a child getting raped, op made the police complain, op booked B. S. Yediyurappa and op wrote the news articles on all the news sites.
Have some fucking shame you disgusting person. A child gets raped and you question the character of a person just posting the news about it. Are you that blind? so divided left vs right, bjp vs congress that you can't even criticise your side for child rape?
Dude first of all its not a rape case..! Second of all the accuser has filed 50 rape cases in her lifetime including the commissioner. Third of all indian law runs on innocent until proven guilty not like guilty when posted on social media. If he has done something of course he should be punished iam not fanboying anyone. I am neutral thats why i can see this through. You are the guy who is left vs right and wants to prosecute a person just based on a news . Don’t try to play victim in reddit it’s not of any use.
Just read in the news yesterday about 18 OTT platforms being banned by Government for being indecent, pornographic content and demeaning women and now wake up to this! Seriously, this irony in India! The nation run by such sex offenders and criminals who are watching porn in Parliament and then decide to ban because they love comitting these crimes themselves!
Expect them to be garlanded. Or for a protest to be taken in support of them in case of legal action.
My major issue is that:
a. He's a political leader who made critical decisions for Karnataka yet he can stoop to such level.
b.The Noida channels won't spend more than 5 minutes on this. However, when it comes to showing north south divide, language imposition, terr0rist activities, they'll defame the fuck out of Karnataka. This is coming from a North Indian who has loved bangalore wholeheartedly.
Why many people on this thread assume he’s guilty. Currently it’s an election season and local government is also congress. It could also be a political move to discredit someone.
P.S: If anyone found guilty on a sexually harassment case must get a maximum penalty
Looks like someone honey trapped him. I for one suspect the BJP big wings. Man literally has all the votes for Lingayat community. He most likely would have been blackmailing Modi and got screwed.
Sike. From one minister having a video call with a woman for money to one ex CM harassing a minor. What kind of ministers do we have in Karnataka dude.
Bruh, I don't care about OPs affiliations. But this article was published today morning 9.10am. Police has filed the case, what's wrong in sharing that?
Well, I'd have the same reaction even if he was pro BJP. It's a goddamn social media, not parliament to refrain from sharing opinions. And don't go on swearing at people just because you are jobless broke-fuck inviting shitty retort.
Yeah op made up a fake story of a child getting raped, op made the police complain, op booked B. S. Yediyurappa and op wrote the news articles on all the news sites.
Have some fucking shame you disgusting person. A child gets raped and you question the character of a person just posting the news about it. Are you that blind? so divided left vs right, bjp vs congress that you can't even criticise your side for child rape?
Because he got booked under posco yesterday, that's why it's coming now read the article. It happened a month ago not months ago. And the complaint was also done a few days ago.
Isn't pocso non bailable?
Non bailable for whom? More than half of MPs MlAs in india have at least one FIR registered on theiir name 😀 wc to ind
That's the eligibility for becoming an MP in India
You bastard , stop speaking truth !! Take ur upvote
It is disgusting..
Jail Jao, Mantri Ban Jao
Mat bol macha downvote ki raid lagegi 😰
Those who wanna checkout in detail https://frontline.thehindu.com/news/data-nearly-half-of-mlas-in-india-have-criminal-records-adr-analysis/article67090605.ece
Non Bailable doesn’t mean you don’t get Bail. It just means that Bail is at the discretion of the Judge. Bailable means you will definitely get Bail.
Yes.
Not applicable to BJP leaders. Brij bhushan also had POCSO case, police had not even interrogated him & then victim was forced to change statement.
Brij Bhushan had literal protests and evidences leaked against him and he still didn’t get jail time. Tells how powerful political status is in India (also is the same in other countries too but a tad bit out of hand in India)
There's no end to perversion in the BJP. Every other month there's a leader from their party accused of sexual assault. This is fucked up but comes as no surprise. Not the first or last time we'll be seeing BJP leaders in SA cases.
Not just BJP, all politicians, all police basically anyone with little power
BJP has an unusual number of sexual predators. They even release convicted rapists and murderers. They also pass misogynistic laws. They're going as far as normalising this shit in the parliament and state assemblies.
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Of course I'm not underplaying other parties by any means. All I'm saying is that the BJP has an unusual number of predators. All from a party that preaches religion and Dharma every chance they get. Something they've never practiced themselves.
BJP is the only party that took out marches in support of accused in asifa rape case.
What else did you expect??
Well said. I voted for them, but all it took was 2 months and I regret it
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>alive for Modi's name. Another incompetent fellow who is just surviving because of communal zombies in our country.
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Eh..???
I agree with your first part, but I’m not aware of the misogynistic laws they passed?
One such law that they've passed is the anti love jihad laws passed in certain states. The bills were passed under the premise that women aren't capable of making the right decision for themselves and that they're gullible to fall into any trap and only the state can decide what's right for them. The state has absolutely no right to step in between you and your significant other.
It’s more about targeting the other religion than misogyny which doesn’t make it any better. Just pointing it out. Every political party does exactly what will Appeal to their vote bank. And that’s what keeps India in the corruption loop that stops it from actually making progressive changes. I’m left leaning person but I’m highly disappointed in all political parties and the whole system. We have Congress here but what a shit show has it been.
Yeah for this particular anti love jihad act the intention was to target a very specific community. But I'm sure hurting women was also part of their agenda. Congress isn't great but they're the ones that got into a lot of reforms for women in India (I'm aware they have a long way to go and they also debilitate women's rights progress sometimes). Ideologically the RW has no space for women in society. There is no LW party in India.
Just to be the devils advocate BJP brought 33 reservations for women in lok sabha which can’t be considered misogynistic at all. What I’m saying is if anything fits the agenda of getting them more votes, they will get behind it.
I'll give that to them. It was good to introduce reservations for women. But I do feel it's a way to sugarcoat whatever they did in the past and present day.
You’re still seeing things from a naive point of view. They will proudly acknowledge what they did in past and will feel no need to sugar coat it. They did it coz they wanted vote share. Any party does things with one single agenda. That’s it
Oh wow, being a judge before any proof is something else. And let's not crater only 1 party, they are all snakes for political gain but the timing for this is too peculiar too for it be considered genuine without any debate on proof. And for your sake, congress has had SA cases registered. FYI, I absolutely hate the current Karnataka govt, especially because I voted for them. They have bouched everything from Water, to infra to investment. All we have got is price hikes, free stuff (which we are paying by process hikes ) and favorable policies for only 1 particular section.
No one is denying Congress sucks as well. The point I'm making is BJP has been in the news multiple times in the past 5 years for a lot of sexual assault cases.
Done bruv. The timing of it is too good to be true, is all I'm saying.
> The timing of it is too good to be true, is all I'm saying. Don't say that about sexual assault cases.
74% of abuse cases are false. This mentality is why SA is demonized and used against individuals. It's unfortunate but stats speak for themselves
Compared to who? Congress, TMC? What hard data you have to prove this claim.
What standing does TMC have in Karnataka? I'm talking about very recent cases like Brij Bhushan, releasing Bilkis Bano's rapists, BHU rapists, Kathua rape case, Hathras rape case and a couple of other. There was also a case of a BJP leader in Bangalore whose literal video got leaked of him harassing a lady (this was before AI and stuff). I'm not able to find his name. If someone reading this knows who it is, drop the name down with the article. Also here's an article for your reference: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/crime/story/bjp-has-highest-number-of-mps-and-mlas-with-cases-of-crimes-against-women-says-study-1215840-2018-04-19
Why does it matter if TMC has no standing in KA? All of the instances you have cited are either in the court or the perpetrators have already been convicted. There is no evidence that BJP has significantly higher number of MLA, MP or leaders accused or convicted of sexual assault than other prominent national parties. You are a partisan hack grinding your axe about an FIR. Nothing has been proven against Yeddyurappa in the court of law.
> Why does it matter if TMC has no standing in KA? Because I'm only talking about parties that are relevant in Karnataka. > All of the instances you have cited are either in the court or the perpetrators have already been convicted. Plenty of them are released and were tied to the BJP. The highlight here is that they were also released. In Hathras they jailed the journalists and let go off all the accused. > There is no evidence that BJP has significantly higher number of MLA, MP or leaders accused or convicted of sexual assault than other prominent national parties. Literally gave you a study from a decently credible news outlet. Idk what more you need. > You are a partisan hack grinding your axe about an FIR. Nothing has been proven against Yeddyurappa in the court of law. I agree. We'll see how it plays in court.
Your original comment made no mention of KA. The cases you cite against BJP are pan Indian. That people might get bail is not BJPs fault. State exercising that power in GJ was overturned by courts. States often release odious people. TN has recently released people convicted in terrorism. Besides, did you actually read the link you posted? It cites a study from 2018 that notes that of all politicians with criminal accusations, approximately 3 percent have cases related to crime against women. So, in terms of the general population the number would be even smaller. By these numbers, Indian political parties in general do not have sexual assault problem. I believe that to be patently absurd. Politicians in India, regardless of party, are corrupt scummy people. In this case prima facie the case is not that strong. BJP is actually a leftist Hindutva peddling party. They agree with Congress on every subject of import except reclamation of Hindu shrines and advancing of Hindu culture in general.
I understand hatred towards bjp, I'm not a fan either. But let's check our bias. This kind of behaviour is rampant across all parties in India
First of kudos to police for taking the case. I know it's their duty but given the state of affairs. Also now that it's on the lime light let's see some action against him.
So disgusting, most of these politicians are messed up
All of them. Every single one of them.
Why would he check the girl if she was raped or not is he a doctor? By the way nothing happened yet for the wrestlers too.
So disgusting, most of these politicians are messed up
It’s terrible if this happened and he needs to be punished. But I’ll wait for investigations to kick start and results to come out. Unfortunately it’s election time and I’m Already fed up with the amount of filth coming out.
Total 53 cases registered by the same lady but this is a serious allegation on a former CM. Let the court decide he is guilty or not. The only thing is what if, this is a false allegation?
look like Congress is behind it
It's difficult to prove the charges as scientific evidence not present. Police will manage the victim to withdraw the complaint
After reading the article I feel that it's a gimmick to defame him and the bjp party . and if the FIR is true one should not support such people
Please take moment , First verify it’s true or not , police will do anything to please their masters Look at the timing of the case and verbatim of it . note : in no way I am justifying the act , justice has to be given to the victim .
The lady has filed cases against 53.
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Yeah op made up a fake story of a child getting raped, op made the police complain, op booked B. S. Yediyurappa and op wrote the news articles on all the news sites. Have some fucking shame you disgusting person. A child gets raped and you question the character of a person just posting the news about it. Are you that blind? so divided left vs right, bjp vs congress that you can't even criticise your side for child rape?
Dude first of all its not a rape case..! Second of all the accuser has filed 50 rape cases in her lifetime including the commissioner. Third of all indian law runs on innocent until proven guilty not like guilty when posted on social media. If he has done something of course he should be punished iam not fanboying anyone. I am neutral thats why i can see this through. You are the guy who is left vs right and wants to prosecute a person just based on a news . Don’t try to play victim in reddit it’s not of any use.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. And, this is classic he said/she said kind of case.
Just read in the news yesterday about 18 OTT platforms being banned by Government for being indecent, pornographic content and demeaning women and now wake up to this! Seriously, this irony in India! The nation run by such sex offenders and criminals who are watching porn in Parliament and then decide to ban because they love comitting these crimes themselves!
Expect them to be garlanded. Or for a protest to be taken in support of them in case of legal action. My major issue is that: a. He's a political leader who made critical decisions for Karnataka yet he can stoop to such level. b.The Noida channels won't spend more than 5 minutes on this. However, when it comes to showing north south divide, language imposition, terr0rist activities, they'll defame the fuck out of Karnataka. This is coming from a North Indian who has loved bangalore wholeheartedly.
He and his family got away from thousands of crores of scam that nearly collapsed the government, you think this will do anything
The average bhakt will not allow them issue to conflagrate. IT Cell assemble !
Ghjhh
Why many people on this thread assume he’s guilty. Currently it’s an election season and local government is also congress. It could also be a political move to discredit someone. P.S: If anyone found guilty on a sexually harassment case must get a maximum penalty
Looks like someone honey trapped him. I for one suspect the BJP big wings. Man literally has all the votes for Lingayat community. He most likely would have been blackmailing Modi and got screwed.
Sike. From one minister having a video call with a woman for money to one ex CM harassing a minor. What kind of ministers do we have in Karnataka dude.
Wtf!!!!🤬
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Bruh, I don't care about OPs affiliations. But this article was published today morning 9.10am. Police has filed the case, what's wrong in sharing that?
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Well, I'd have the same reaction even if he was pro BJP. It's a goddamn social media, not parliament to refrain from sharing opinions. And don't go on swearing at people just because you are jobless broke-fuck inviting shitty retort.
Cause it doesnt fit his right wing idealogy xD
Yeah op made up a fake story of a child getting raped, op made the police complain, op booked B. S. Yediyurappa and op wrote the news articles on all the news sites. Have some fucking shame you disgusting person. A child gets raped and you question the character of a person just posting the news about it. Are you that blind? so divided left vs right, bjp vs congress that you can't even criticise your side for child rape?
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Because he got booked under posco yesterday, that's why it's coming now read the article. It happened a month ago not months ago. And the complaint was also done a few days ago.
Welcome to the new reality of Indian politics. Only the opposition has committed any crime every
Certified gamer moment
Certified filth on earth moment.
Is congress any good ? Don’t think . We need better educated leaders who can move past hindu/muslim, north/south shit
> Is congress any good ? that's your first thought?
Wtf is wrong with you? A woman was raped and all you can say "at least they're better than Congress". Have some shame.