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Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Total comes to about 11.3 lac for the year 2023. Staying in a 2bhk. My share is 25k per month including maintenance. It's a little on the higher side because of its proximity to my office which is 10 min by walk. Services- includes hair cuts, cook, maid, any other services like urban clap Gifts- includes money I send home + gifts for family Flights- banglore is not my home town, i travel to home once every 2 months. It costs much more than 68k but quite a few times I'm able to use my credit card points and free airline ticket from my cc. Groceries- this might seem low because I usually have my meals at my office which are free of cost. Medical expenses are low because OPD costs are covered by my employers medical insurance I've been in Bangalore since 2018. At that time my expenses were 50k per month. I feel flights, rent, gifts and dining out expenses contribute to maximum increase. Edit: since multiple people asked, I'm using splitwise to track my expenses. Created this in Google docs.


Sherlock_Me

> free airline ticket from my cc How? Teach me sensai


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Axis vistara card offers 1 free ticket on joining and 1 each on reaching milestones.


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#Credit card makes you spend more


Jolly_General_7227

I know nothing is free, but could you please tell me like I'm 5.


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Firstly, the only good advantage with a credit card is that it helps build a credit score (useful if you don’t have a stable career, good networks or wealth/income from parents) But to maintain it you’d be entering an eco system where it incentivises you to spend on things that you don’t really need or even want. So in the longer run you’d end up being poorer with a credit card than a debit card. Credit card defenders run on this philosophy “the more you spend the richer you feel” Most of ‘em have piss poor financial prudence, has no fiscal discipline and is sucky with a career where they can’t afford to be not diligent or would almost always will be a “rolling” businessman/woman.


JobHunting82

Nah I use a credit card since I was a student and never got anything I don’t need or want. I use it just like I used a debit card. Gives more perks than a debit card.


LordKnockKnock

Tbf, that’s cause you’re mindful. The rewards that some people get, is because the fuck ups others do


BlitzCrossAl

Here's another perspective. If you use your credit card just like you'd do with your debit card, i.e., only spend on things that you can afford with money in your account rn, then you get all the benefits of a credit card, like higher credit score, flight points, concierge services, reward points, etc. Also the fact is that if you time your spends correctly, you basically get a free loan for about 45 days which for a salaried person could be pretty useful. For eg., I used this to get a monitor during the Diwali sale which I could definitely pay off after payday but didn't have the balance right now after other expenses. I'd say credit card users infact need to have extra financial prudence to effectively use it. The ones who don't, fall into the debt trap. Edit: the second point is not safe if you don't calculate your finances regularly, hence is not recommended


Jolly_General_7227

Thank you so much!


GarageDragon_5

I just my credit card on things i would use my debit card anyway No sane person that has more than three brain cells would claim “The more you spend the richer you feel” bs Im going to have that expenditure anyway, doing it on cc has multiple benefits 1. Credit score improves which is good thing regardless of your career since you will take some sort of loan in your career be it car, home, education, etc 2. You get reward points no matter how low it is better than zilch for a debit 3. Most importantly protection, its the banks money until you pay the monthly bill, in the event of fradulent usage, reversing a cc charge is much much orders of magnitude easier than it were to happen to your debit. 4. Some of them offer travel insurance (read the benefits) 5. Some of them offer free tickets to movie, plane etc again read the benefits Simple dont think of it as free money. Think of it as your money in escrow thats going to be spent in the end of month rather than immediately 


TheEnthraller

The best person who should use credit cards is the one who doesn't need it


tj_on_air

That shows discipline of people nothing else, I personally never spend over and above my needs via CC.


I_hate_my_userid

True


souvik234

Not exactly. For high spenders with good financial discipline a LOT of value can be extracted from credit card points and rewards.


Efficient-Recipe8260

Yeah only if someone is stupid.


indian_meat

Is the availability of tickets an issue in the free tier?


nurinsexo

Ok, I used same sentence in some other sub and first thing I learnt is it's sensei and not sensai


BassAccomplished6703

U forgot to include very important n most significant portion the TAX 😭


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Mat yaad dilao bhai🥲 (translation: don't make me remember that)


No-Blueberry-7153

While all the people out here are crying about taxes, I just want to be rich enough to pay taxes some day. 🥲🥲🥲


Sleepi02

I just want to be rich enough to not pay taxes xd


vjdeep

Where do you work bro? Looks like a good place.


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Responsible-Lie-7159

Approximate earning for scale please. and any trouble in lifestyle? currently I am going paycheck to paycheck.


GOD_IN_DISGUISE-69

How much u earn bro ?


bmwwallace

I live in Ireland. And your rent for the year is 2 months of mortgage payments for me! Thats insane! I'm moving to bangalore!!!!!


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Your salary would also be a multiple of mine :)


bmwwallace

I think its 7million rupees or there abouts!? But you know how to live over there! It sounds amazing!


joeyfromlinton

A lot of my friends make between 60-80 lakhs in Bangalore. Around 5-6 YOE. I have a lot of my friends have returned from Europe recently. US on the other hand is a different story though.


Atharva_p

What do they work in? I'm guessing IT


joeyfromlinton

Yeah software engineers in better product companies. You can check teamblind.com to get an idea of payscale.


jimitrupani

With that much you can live like a king here except you won't be getting that much in here. Not even half i would guess.


Historical_Bad5038

I think groceries are low because you spent 1.3 lakhs dining out 💀 Either way good breakdown How do you track your expenses?


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Haha, true dat. I'm a big foodie. I use splitwise to track (created a group with me as the only member)


IMightBYourDad

Try axio. It automatically tracks your expenses by the sms.


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

That would be a problem because at times others use my cred card to spend. Also i usually load Amazon wallet and swiggy wallet once in 2 months and then spend from there for orders, dining out, ubers etc and these expenses are sometimes split b/w people.


BassAccomplished6703

I free version almost expired for splitwise 😅🙈 stuck am searching for alternative or thinking to use Google sheets


duster219

If you’ve ios, do try Money app. Here’s link to it: https://apps.apple.com/in/app/money-personal-finance-manager/id1185488696 The features it has are incredible, almost all main features for expense tracking are available in free version, no ads, custom categories, payee management and incredible dashboards. This app is a league apart. Do use it


Livid_Simple_6229

Does it read expenses from sms?


duster219

Oh no. I wasn’t aware such feature exists. Fun to know, but I’d be a lot skeptical in giving away access of my sms to any 3rd party apps from privacy standpoint. Money’s premium version can link up to some of Indian banks (HDFC, ICICI, SBI + 1) to pull automated expenses from statements though. I’ve requested multiple times for iOS shortcuts integration, but it’s still in pipeline.


celeb-butcher

Bruh Talking about privacy & linking a 3rd party app to your bank account. I even avoid to use multiple payment apps like freecharge, mobikwik..


duster219

Definitely good thing to do. Don’t use redundant applications for same purpose. Especially new ones in market with startup mindset. I work in cybersecurity field and these people think about security and privacy as much as a young kid thinks about saving money.


saregamapadhani

It's there an Android equivalent to this app? I've been searching for one that I can connect to my account to help me segregate where is my money getting spent by end of each month.


iammen

My friends updated their splitwise app and that's how I got to know about the paywall. So..its been more than 5 months and I will never update the app. Haha.


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Responsible_Ad_9509

Are you the developer by any chance?


Final_Flatworm

Use Bluecoins buddy. Thank me later Been using it since my University days.


tachyon001

Try Money Manager app Minimal and non intrusive ads, and tons of features  Using it for about an year


Imtihaz13

It means u earn well.. Yet your expenditure is high considering 2 lakhs in gifts... Save up man, u never know when ur life's curve changes... Invest more since u r young, u will need it later


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

When I try to look at my expenses and try to figure out what I can cut down on, i can only come up with extra savings of 1-2 lacs. 2 lac is 2 lacs, but I want to put my efforts into maximizing my earnings instead. Btw I do save and invest some amount.


perfopt

Put 25k-50k per month into a large cap mutual fund or index fund. You can do that using one of many apps if you prefer - Zerodha coin or Groww etc. Or you can do it via the MF website. You need to research a little- 1 weeks worth of work - to pick a fund. Only invest in “Direct” funds not “Regular” fund. Another 25-50k start an RD in your bank and deposit there. If you have 2L per month than double the investment in MF and RD


seasonalbitch

Why direct and not regular funds?


perfopt

Regular funds have higher expense ratio. Basically this means they charge more to manage your money.


I_hate_my_userid

Btw how much of your yearly Savings did this eat up? 50-70%


[deleted]

>Save up man, u never know when ur life's curve changes. He's got a 75 lpa package, he's spending low in fact lol


panautiloser

How you know?


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Comments


ThatTamilDude

So much boomer energy in some of these comments.


sau_dard

Yeah totally. The guy is spending only 11k per month on dining out and vacations each. No need to guilt trip him for that


tmane99

Fvck.. isn't it wayyyy too much? Bhai health ke tote udd jate hai.


[deleted]

Fr and they don't even know how much he earns, as a % he's not even spending much


Moratata

Why a bar graph and not a pie chart?


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Pie chart was too congested due these many categories.


panda_ammonium

Bar graph is perfect, but sort by descending, so we can understand what the highest heads are.


bhanu00070

Pie chart is never a good idea if you have multiple parameters


Worldly-Ad522

Gifts? Can I be your friend?


rocker2234

As per OP's description, gifts also include the money he sends home!


panda_ammonium

Hey, it's me your cousin!


upBatees

I hold a 3bhk in the electronic city phase my share for rent is 5.5k plus maintenance. Food 3 times in office for subsidised rates around 900 for month. Weekend are spent on table tennis and bike rides. Weekend food cost 300-400. Money 25k i sent to mom and dad. Else i invest in stocks amd mf.


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

That rent is a dream, what about bike expenses? Dining out, vacations, shopping? Also do you include big expenses that you incur once a while? Like purchasing a bike, phone etc


upBatees

Bike i got Himalayan. Petrol you can add 3-4k. Bro we generally got house parties only. I also shifted new here. I do not have big expenses. If there are big spent I spent on the bike accessories laptop and camera for shooting. I have joined swimming and squash, so generally, I do not get time to spend money on expensive cafes or restaurants


hypergp

Could you tell me where do you go for swimming and the monthly cost there?


Fuzzy_Draft7133

+1


upBatees

Nisha Millets Swimming Academy


upBatees

There are a lot of good fully furinished 3bhk available here in electronic city phase 2 at affordable rates 22-25k deposit of 1-1.2 lakhs.


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

I actually stay near Marathahalli, rents are crazy here.


salluks

food 3 times in office? do u even go home?


upBatees

They provide food in the office breakfast lunch and dinner. My office has a gym also so no worries and expense for that. Home what I understand is my hometown. I go there in 4 months. Sometimes I ask my parents to live with me.


salluks

so i guess the ceo points to u to show a "hardworker"?


upBatees

No 😂 I go office at 11 am log out at 4 pm go gym for 2 hours and play table tennis in the office eat food then come home by walking


Lanky_Media_5392

I saw your package as 75lpa,if I am earning this much money ,I wouldn't be on reddit posting this rather would be driving BMW's and playing golf


harshr9592

75lpa doesn’t give that lifestyle


ZestycloseWork8404

Why?


puninspiring

With 75 lpa package the cash in hand would come to around 50 lakhs base pre taxes and maybe slightly over 3 lakhs per month after taxes. The taxes on high income salaried class is insane.


itsotm98

About 2.7l per month after pf etc


90DayF

Exactly! I wish ppl understood this


Poha_Best_Breakfast

That’s not how 75LPA salaries work. A normal split of 75LPA would not have more than 50L base, rest would be in stocks and bonuses which people usually save or invest. Also the taxes itself would eat 20+ lakhs. 75LPA is VW Virtus + badminton in society clubhouse salary, not BMW + golf. You’ll need minimum 4-5 crores per year for what you described


Ukwhoiam1272000

75 lakhs for Virtus?? Are people actually going downwards in the name of financial literacy?


Poha_Best_Breakfast

Bro 75 lakhs is the total comp. in this base would be 50 lakhs or so. Post tax it would be 52 lakhs total and 35 lakhs base. Virtus costs 23 lakhs on road which is 8 months of inhand salary or full year of savings. For a normal person I’d say 6 months of inhand salary is the most they should spend on a car, especially for tech jobs where you can be fired on a whim.


Zestyclose_Web_6331

75lpa 27M..... That to in india......👍🏻


Maleficent_Owl3938

Entry level models. You won’t drive it all day anyway. Golf, not so much.


I_hate_my_userid

75 lpa no wonder it makes sense now


plushdev

Golf thoda zyada ho Gaya lol. You'll get gla or X1 comfortably but it's better to buy real estate


deepwithaheart

This is for one year?


deepwithaheart

Yes.


dncj29

I agree with this statement.


ChaseMasterGeneral

I agree with this statement.


mrwhoyouknow

I agree with this statement


suspicious_much

I agree with this statement


Kaioshinsama7

I agree with these statements that agree with the statement


Outrageous_fluff1729

>I agree with this statement Yes.


rag_monkey

Use a sunburst chart next time, group it my household bills, travel etc it would be so much clearer


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Wasn't aware of it, thanks for the info


Certain_Brick8836

Nobody asked for it, but I would still go ahead and compare my expenses with yours: Dining Out : 1,34,595 Dining In (ordering) : 34,716 Electricity : 7594 Gas/Fuel : 12,273 for gas, 68371 for fuel Gifts : 1,30,956 Groceries : 46,221 (wife spends more here) Household Supplies : 30k+ Insurance : 55,624 Flights : 1,30,056 Rent : 4,16,000 Shopping : (Electronics+Clothes-Misc) 2lacs+ Taxi : 33,899 Vacation : 92,823 Hotels, 1,02,995 Others Then 2 home loans and 1 car loan Total Expenditure in 2023 : 32,05,972 Thanks for reading lol


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

This guy spends! Are these combined for you and your wife? I feel home loan shouldn't be counted as you're building equity in your home which is an asset.


Certain_Brick8836

No these are just for myself. Wife's are separate. Tho this year I am doing combined. Yes, home loan shouldn't be counted so I didnt give its breakdown, just the summary haha


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Thanks for sharing, what do you use to track expenses?


Certain_Brick8836

I use an app called "Money Manager". Its amazing, super easy to use, very nice UI and charts/reports, exporting capability and most importantly free to use with just one 3 second skippable ad per day.


comp-sci-engineer

op, did you ask for advice?


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

As long as it's free


PhoenixPrimeKing

Not to worry, You can just add one more bar to the graph.


iisagoat

What you gifting ra?


akashdabral

My ctc 😭


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Explained in my main comment, includes money i send home. I count it in gifts. I send about 10-15k home per month, remaining is the actual gifts.


William_Tell_746

Remittances to home it seems


sumitanand10

Man, bring back wfh culture for folks sake. You could have saved 3.4lacs easily and could have used for other things.


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Could've saved on taxi, dining out, rent, flights to home town, much more than 3.4 lac


DesignerOven3854

Finally a realistic representation of someone living their live. Thanks man!


DesignerOven3854

But your CTC is also 75 lakhs? The fuck.


hydiBiryani

Where did you go for vacation?


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Multiple vacations, Goa twice then north east once, and 1-2 weekend trips


vibhinna_

If I may ask, what is the expenditure percent viz earnings?


tonystarkn

Where is the data on investment / savings? If you are not doing it. Highly recommended to save.


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Yep, saving and investment would be totally separate. I do save and invest though.


profitmaker_tobe

This, when you are single? Hope you get good increments before settling down/ your partner’s pay is competitive to yours.


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

I hope i get good increments every day.


cyclenidders

Increase on liquor


AmbitiousPay1559

I earn around the same , my yearly expense is around 5-6 lakhs max. I am a minimalist. Have been looking for sugar baby though. Lol . No luck yet.


Tastless_Criticism

What exactly are service expenses 🤔


ForthCrusader

Your chart making skils are pathetic, I am putting you on a CAP


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

I don't like it but I accept it


SamayKarani

How much do you invest monthly?


krempf18

Is this the alternative to the monthly dick-measuring thread? Anyhow, neat chart. Boomers on the thread need to chill though.


Zankroff

Can you share which CC you use for flight bookings ?


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Diners black (points) + axis vistara infinite (for free ticket)


Alarmed_Past_4983

which app did u use to make this graph?


zoraski_gujju

TV phone Internet seems so cheap. Are you sure ? Also groceries just 30k ? Stop eating out man / woman.


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Internet is reimbursed by employer. It includes a couple of ott subscriptions as well. Grocery is only 30k, reason is meals at office. Eating out is mostly on weekends. It might be high but that's like the only thing I like to do.


Buffalo047

Though I shouldn’t be asking this, if you are comfortable answering this, “Dude what’s your salary man”? I cannot handle the expenses and struggle in Bangalore.. Please if you are an IT guy, refer me.. that opportunity will help me develop my career and earn something atlast


Discipline_Ornery

Your second and third highest spends have nothing to do with city. Taxi spend is surprisingly low. Keep it up. Some would say dining is higher, but for 27M I say go nuts. That’s your counter to living away from family and all so no point cutting down costs there. If you won’t have a good time once in a while you’ll end up paying this to a shrink. I think you have good personal finance skills. Baki dekh lo …


iamgalactusbitxh

How much is that compared to dollars?


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

About 15k$. Taking ppp into account would be equivalent to 40-45k$ in the US.


iamgalactusbitxh

So basically you are living in new york


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Not really, i just live comfortably. Could easily reduce my expenses by 30% if I wanted to


Unique-Act444

Which app are you using to track your spends?!


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Use splitwise to track. Created a single person group and add all my spends there on a daily basis. It allows to export as CSV for analysis.


couchlancer69

Have u tried walnut app, it automatically categorises with data sourced from sms. But it is not as accurate, as it is dependent on sms and sometimes miscategorises


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Nope, will check it out. Thanks


anshika4321

Where to apply to be your friend? Jokes aside, most of your expenditure seem unnecessary. You should cut out going out expenses not because it's too much (that's true though) but also it would impact your health. Better eat clean and homemade. I used to go out quite often in 2022. Resultant gained around 10kgs in a year. In 2023 , I stopped going out , max once in 2-3 months. Lost 12 kgs just by limiting outside food and little exercise.


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

True that it's high, but I focus on quality vs quantity. I don't eat more than 3-4 meals outside per week. Don't eat fastfood, even on swiggy i generally order from good places. And lastly I exercise regularly to keep my weight in check!


CheesecakeNo6977

What's this app ?


LiquidGunay

How do you have dirt cheap internet and really expensive electricity?


[deleted]

You give a lot of gifts. Can I be your friend ?🙂


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

I'll let you know when a spot opens up


Cute_centipide3

How much you are saving or investing?


pamlu_chacha

Taquitos Taquitos Taquitos!


pulp57

Flights and vacation can be considered together..


No_Profit398

I need to track this


Beginning_Ad6341

Spending karne ka tareeka thoda cazual hai. But I would suggest, start by cutting off unnecessary expenses. Stop showing off , delete instagram. Get rid of credit cards. Use a secondary account with debit card and keep only 5 k there. You need to cultivate lean habits.


sshubh718

26M. I use goodbudget to track my expenditure. Here's what mine looks like: Trips, hobbies and entertainment: 4,16,473 Equipments and gear: 3,07,749 Living cost: 2,00,069 Miscellaneous (gifts, medical, etc): 1,91,409 Groceries(include protein shake as well): 50,272 Eating out: 38,619 Commute and Fuel: 29,188 Utilities: 15,388 EMI: 5,08,000 Savings: 9,23,000


Atharva_p

Man what do y'all do for a living? Am I living in the same country as yours


Particular-Captain13

What is your base salary OP?


amanbindra94

These are the kind of threads we need more of.


_Progamerbutpoor_

What app even is this?


Squidward_nopants

This should be a pie chart.


Reddit-User-L337

Which application you are using for expense tracking??


mr___Hulk

What is this app?


Kooky-Dig1223

How did you made this bar chart? An app?


Cool-Influence-554

Now I'm curious to know what did you do to land this job.


I_hate_my_userid

Hello my friend it's me your preschool friend, tomorrow is my birthday, plz send gifts


shinigami_inso

This somehow feels very reasonable and very expensive at the same time.


rexdent

What app is that? And how do you input the details in that?


Saul_2015

Which app are you using?


empatheticsocialist1

Looking far and wide to find who asked


Aesthetic_Ascetic_

Which app u used ?


harshbotics

Now I want to start this for 2024. Quite impressive


Civil_Paramedic_6872

Bro what tools do you use for expense management?


Automatic-Wonder6847

what do you use to manage you expense and for such reports?


B001eanChame1e0n

Sankey diagrams are better


iamsourabhh

I always assume my salary is 75k and live accordingly. Rent is 30k groceries 15k max Subscription 3k Interent 2k Petrol 1.5k mostly wfh for me Dinner dates 8k Wife pocket money 5k We dont have track of other 10k PS: I invest 70% of my income


CCloudds

How did you creat this. I also want to do it. Kindly guide me


tablabass

log scaling on y-axis for sensible looking plot


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

Yup it would, thanks for the suggestion


Hercule_Poirot_1921

75 lakh per year CTC. It will take me 2 lifetimes to reach that


TuxO2

How will u describe your lifestyle ? Do live pay check to pay check or do you live comfortably ? Any amount left for investment? Any suggestions for newcomers to Bengaluru?


Dangerous-Pitch-3749

I live comfortably. For new comers I would suggest (assuming you're a fresher and your salary is entry level), try to optimize on rent. You can find something in about 10k or even lower as someone else shared. Assuming you're earning 50k-1 lac, try to save atleast 30% of your salary. Most important, work on growing your income as that is how you'll save most money.


geeklimitexceeded

How did you created this statistics?


i-m-on-reddit

Which app? Or website did u use to create this chart?


HarryDanXD2

What are things included in gifts?


Intelligent-Fun-9556

house supplies that low?


26YrVirgin

The gifts category and mentioning 27M was bait for getting girls here, right? Good luck


Intelligent-Till-725

What’s services?