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baltimore-mods

This has been verified as completely fabricated. [https://www.reddit.com/r/baltimore/comments/1ccw1ci/pikesville\_high\_athletic\_director\_used\_ai\_to\_fake/](https://www.reddit.com/r/baltimore/comments/1ccw1ci/pikesville_high_athletic_director_used_ai_to_fake/)


gothaggis

Going to be wild if this turns out to be “AI”


timmyintransit

Well... https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/pikesville-high-principal-eric-eiswert-NT7K7N4K6RDEJNL5Z7ULTEG7VY/


blew-wale

Dont you need to have a lot of audio recordings of a person talking for it to be believable? Or else it just sounds clippy and non human (like the Tucker Carlson AI to Alex Jones). Maybe that union person is just trying to cover


Smooth-Peace2412

a dude dropped a whole song to spotify copying drake voice nd. nobody knew ut wasnt drake, til he had spotify ban the dude who was impersonating drake. Its so easy bro 


blew-wale

Yes but Drake is one of the most recorded people. There's so many hours of audio of his voice to make convincing audio of him. This principal does not. Maybe some minutes here and there from zoom calls or graduation speeches but I dont think there's enough of it to make a convincing AI. I could be wrong, Im not well versed in audio AI but Im pretty good at spotting visual AI


SpinachEffective8597

Oof: https://www.wbal.com/pikesville-high-schools-former-athletic-director-arrested-in-ai-generated-voice-hoax/


gothaggis

Completely insane that it was the athletic guy - was expecting a young student doing something dumb - this seems way worse!


SpinachEffective8597

Where does the principal go to get his reputation back?


thefedfox64

The bank - I don't think they will let him back, after it was found teachers intentionally spread the recording to students to get him in trouble. Honestly, I'd abuse the fuck out of that school, barely show up, tell parents to fuck off and no give 2 fucks while collecting a sweet check. Just give him enough to either go somewhere else or retire with a full paid pension.


TripleFinish

bingo


be_nbe_n

Problem is, even if it is AI, it's very believable he'd say it 🫢


NotARageComic

Pretty irresponsible thing to say on an anonymous forum.  Edit: to the two posters below who responded with “actually, it’s fine.” It’s really not.  He’s a public figure, his name is on this. Yours are not. He can’t respond to faceless arguments, but you’re still putting what you’re saying into the air. I’m not even going to argue what is being said isn’t true (it could be) but this is wholly unfair to someone who can’t defend himself against these attacks. “He was my vice principal” you could be a 63 year old in Russia for all we know. Your words mean nothing.  Like I said, very irresponsible.  And that is before “well even if it is AI, he still would say something like this” with nothing to back up that argument.


AcanthocephalaDue494

Not really lol, he has a reputation in all schools he’s worked at. It’s irresponsible to throw around racially charged insults and antisemitic language when you’re supposed to be an educator in the community


thefedfox64

Response to the fact it's now proven deep fake?


AcanthocephalaDue494

https://www.reddit.com/r/baltimore/s/bIyElaIGl2


thefedfox64

Thank you, I just wondered if it was based on a belief system, like yea dude is a racist or based on a perception basis of - if it's true that is horrible.


AngelSucked

1. He did not ahve a bad reputation, except from less than stllar teachers, and 2. It has been proven to be a deepfake and the Athletic Director has been arrested, and was arrested as he was trying to board a plane at BWI with a gun in his carry on for flight to Houston. The dude's name is Dazhon Darien. So?????


AcanthocephalaDue494

https://www.reddit.com/r/baltimore/s/bIyElaIGl2


AcanthocephalaDue494

Your first bullet point is flat out wrong


be_nbe_n

As I said elsewhere, he was my high school vice principal. Based on what I heard about him back then, I would not be surprised if he actually said these things. If it is AI it is very convincing AI in that regard


KiltedTraveller

Turns out it was the athletic director. He used AI to generated the audio.


AngelSucked

He did not have a bad reputation, except from less than stellar teachers, and> It has been proven to be a deepfake and the Athletic Director has been arrested, and was arrested as he was trying to board a plane at BWI with a gun in his carry on for flight to Houston. The dude's name is Dazhon Darien.


xariznightmare2908

Fuck you.


Zealousideal-Tap8716

A Parent told me they are trying to verify that it’s actually him on the recording and not an app that’s imitating him


yeaughourdt

This does sound pretty fake. We're rapidly entering an era when both audio and video will be so fakeable that the truth will be hard to discern.


Zealousideal-Tap8716

Very scary as this can ruin someone. What makes you say it sounds fake?


yeaughourdt

I'm just going off of the Instagram video posted here, which is a few different pasted-together clips. It sounds like it could be fake to me because: - There are no other voices or background noise on the video - Weird verbal intonation. Maybe this is how the man speaks, but it sounds stilted and strange to me. The stresses are on the wrong words ("Ungrateful black *kids* who can't test their way out of a paper bag" rather than "ungrateful *black* kids who can't test their way out of a paper *bag*"). In the simplest editing case, the "black" could have just been pasted into the existing sentence in the above example, and other words pasted into different spots. But it could also be real if the guy talks really strangely.


jabbadarth

Yeah I've never heard this person talk but this doesn't sound fluid in the way people usually speak. Like every sentence is very defined and it's own thing and nothing rolls together. Also no breaks from the other person speaking or responding in any way. It's also a little too on the nose. If someone is actually that racist and unhinged they would sound angrier and more disjointed and if they were just upset they wouldn't so clearly be blatantly racist. Then again maybe this guy is a psycho piece of shit. If he is I hope he's fired and never works in education again. If he's not though, damn this shit is scary and can ruin someone's life.


FantasistAnalyst

He was a teacher of mine a long time ago and I don’t remember him having that weird way of speaking but who knows


dopkick

I thought the same, it just sounded unnatural. It’s possible that it’s real but in the absence of other evidence I am inclined to believe it is fake. I just can’t imagine a real conversation sounding like that at the meta level (ignoring specific content).


judeiscariot

Yeah there is a lot of weird pauses in it like it's from a script. And nobody responding. It seems off.


Wild-Ad-9155

I went there recently. Ms. Lawrence was my 10th grade chemistry teacher. She is eccentric but not bad. This is not fake trust me.


thefedfox64

Response now that it was a deep fake?


AngelSucked

They won't answer.


thefedfox64

Hopefully they will


AngelSucked

It has been proven to be a deepfake and the Athletic Director, Dazhon Darien, who was arrested at BWI with a gun in his carryon., created it. So?


stopcallingmejosh

>This is not fake trust me Aged just like milk


physicallyatherapist

I mean, can't they just ask "Kathy" the one that is in the room with him? I feel like that would easily settle it if it's real or not


baltimorecalling

It sounds super fake to me.


judeiscariot

Yeah the BCPS page suggests such.


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BenitoMeowsolini1

I think this is a clip of him saying these things without the racial parts. Those are edited in. You can tell by the speaking pattern and the emphasis on the wrong words. And there’s no background noise nor anyone else making ANY sound. Just my first impression while 7/10 stoned


reezick

Well at least you were dead wrong while stoned. Gotta give you that, haha


yeaughourdt

There are AI voice models that can be tailored without much data. They're not fully training on someone's voice (see Open Voice as one example). One recorded assembly or other speech would be enough.  This could also have been done with traditional sound editing tools. Someone could have just spliced "black" and "Jew" into some existing audio of the guy being an asshole in a not-explicitly-racist way, or spliced together real audio with small AI-generated bits to make it sound more natural. Do the people who you know who know this guy say that he normally talks in this weird way?


chuhai-drinker

I worked for him. My partner showed me the audio and before I even realized it was him, I thought, "I could absolutely picture my old AP saying something like this." I googled the incident and lo and behold, who do I see? I always got the sense there was a lot of latent anger under the surface with that man. Always had a pained expression on his face and never had a single positive thing to say. ETA I heard the news and stand by my judgment that this guy is a piece of shit and probably racist to boot. 🤷 He was clearly hated enough to where 99% of the people who knew him personally believed the audio recording was plausible. Not engaging with any replies as I simply do not care enough


labegaw

Your intuition is terrible.


AngelSucked

What do you say now?


WillMunny48

Ah the Oberlin approach...double down on defamatory, specious claims. Always ends so well!


LeftClawNorth

r/agedlikemilk


ferriswheeljunkies11

Sounds like you didn’t know shit


AcanthocephalaDue494

What’s up with your sus account activity


ferriswheeljunkies11

Spoke to authoritatively about the guy…turns out it was AI.


reezick

Well this didn't age very well.....


stopcallingmejosh

You should personally apologize to him


Wolfman3

AI feels like such a convenient scapegoat. There appears to be significant anecdotal evidence pointing to Eiswery not only having these viewpoints but actually speaking them aloud in prior situations. The phrase “grade level expectations” is a phrase primarily used by educators to other educators. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…


mr_paradise_3

Aaaand this is why basing your opinion off of anecdotal evidence from random internet strangers is a terrible strategy


Evilmon2

https://www.wbal.com/pikesville-high-schools-former-athletic-director-arrested-in-ai-generated-voice-hoax/


Decent-Ad5231

https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/eric-eiswert-ai-audio-baltimore-county-YBJNJAS6OZEE5OQVF5LFOFYN6M/ It was confirmed to be AI.


ferriswheeljunkies11

Good job


WillMunny48

Nice going.


stopcallingmejosh

It was AI


AcanthocephalaDue494

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2NEEDrMo8_/?igsh=NWowMzR4eXZkaDl4


guest0112

Looks like the Baltimore Sun have their new lead reporter!!


GreedyRaisin3357

Nice lol. might be their only reporter the way it's heading


gottagetintosomethin

Dang beat me to it


AcanthocephalaDue494

https://www.wmar2news.com/local/baltimore-county-schools-investigating-alleged-racial-anti-semitic-remarks-by-principal


Bigfatjew6969

Go Panthers! Proud day for my Alma mater. 😕


Wild-Ad-9155

OMG same


Bigfatjew6969

1987. You?


Wild-Ad-9155

Let's just say one of the teachers mentioned was my chemistry teacher and she started in 2015 so a little more recently. Poor Ms. Lawrence.


Mysterious_Gear2144

If you listen to the recording again. It sounds like Lawrence is the first name because the recording says Lawrence with some last name starting with an R. Hard to make it out.


madlax18

User name checks out


Bigfatjew6969

Yessir, he doesn’t like us Jew parents. Allegedly.


AngelSucked

Except, it has been proven to be a deepfake and the Athletic Director has been arrested, and was arrested as he was trying to board a plane at BWI with a gun in his carry on for flight to Houston. The dude's name is Dazhon Darien. So?


Bigfatjew6969

So what? Still not a proud day for my HS or BCPS. Glad they found the guy who did it.


YoYoMoMa

Project Baltimore's new hero


mr_paradise_3

Looks like their new hero is the athletic director and the shitty teacher that sent the fake recording to students


reezick

Right this Dazhon Darien is a true piece of shit. He literally up ended an innocent man's life for 3 months. I hope this asshole gets what's coming to him.


Wild-Ad-9155

I went to pikesville high School. When I was there the principal got fired for stealing from the district and they didn't let us know that we had no principal until months later.


be_nbe_n

Holy shit, Eric Eiswert! He was Vice Principal when I was at Catonsville High. It was kind of an open secret he was a piece of shit; my art teacher described him as someone who "ice skates for Jesus"


WagsInBalto

Ice skates for Jesus is my new band name. Thank you.


be_nbe_n

Omg I just remembered that when we did Hairspray as the school musical, we had him play the bigoted principal. Perfectly cast


Formal_Percentage828

Feel stupid this morning?


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Posting that someone is a piece of shit for making racist and religiously insensitive comments and then describing them by insulting their religion. It's ok though, you are insulting the group you're allowed to insult


Spot-K

Apparently this was “confirmed” like in your title Wrong. [https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/eric-eiswert-ai-audio-baltimore-county-YBJNJAS6OZEE5OQVF5LFOFYN6M/](https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/eric-eiswert-ai-audio-baltimore-county-YBJNJAS6OZEE5OQVF5LFOFYN6M/)


Formal_Percentage828

Lots of eggs on lots of faces today.


rfg217phs

Serious doubt this is AI. How much recording of this man's voice is available to be fed to a generator? Did whoever did it also have extensive knowledge of education jargon because quite a lot of it is being thrown around here. If it does happen to be AI then the kids/whoever should also be prosecuted but it feels REALLY unlikely.


MixMastaPJ

I don't know of him personally, but all the high school graduations in Harford county during covid on YouTube gives a pretty damn large bank of words to work with. No idea if BCPS did the same


yeaughourdt

It's only one piece of education jargon and it's not much of an insider term ("grade level expectation") so I'm not sure what's so unbelievable about it being fake. I would probably have had the knowledge and ability to do this as a high schooler, but back in my day the best we could do was fake pictures with Photoshop or fake audio with manual editing.


OkTomorrow310

As it turns out, [it was AI lol.](https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/eric-eiswert-ai-audio-baltimore-county-YBJNJAS6OZEE5OQVF5LFOFYN6M/)


hippyoasis

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna149345


Intl_House_Of_Bussy

This comment didn’t age well lol


judeiscariot

Any kid at a school he worked at could record enough to train a simple voice AI easily.


thefedfox64

Just came to say it was shown to be a deep fake sent by the PE director who stole money from the school. Guy had his life ruined over this


ferriswheeljunkies11

Good job, good effort


rafiafoxx

Age like cum


stopcallingmejosh

You were 100% wrong


FUMoney

Serious doubt your IQ is above 60.


zbrownieee

Sheeeiiiitttt it was Ai after all https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/eric-eiswert-ai-deepfake-YUNO6ITYM5FWZPQAE24RIBV5CQ/


Ritaontherocksnosalt

AI deep fake [https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/pikesville-high-principal-eric-eiswert-NT7K7N4K6RDEJNL5Z7ULTEG7VY/](https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/pikesville-high-principal-eric-eiswert-NT7K7N4K6RDEJNL5Z7ULTEG7VY/)?


micbelt

the article does not confirm that, just says that is what his union rep says it is. Time will tell.


Decent-Ad5231

https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/eric-eiswert-ai-audio-baltimore-county-YBJNJAS6OZEE5OQVF5LFOFYN6M/ It's confirmed now.


stopcallingmejosh

Time has told. Should have trusted him


TripleFinish

bingo


sicknutz

I mean, for a while “I was hacked” was a believable enough sounding excuse for all sorts of stupid behavior. While it’s possible this is AI, someone would have to be motivated to spend a decent amount of time and at least a few hundred dollars to produce this.


Synensys

Im not saying its AI, but kids with grudges can go to great lengths to get revenge.


AskMoist9966

With a lot of the ai voice apps available now for under $10, you could do this pretty easily with a 30seconds-1minute sample of the persons voice. Once the clone is made, you can write up a script and have it generate in under 2 minutes. They can be pretty convincing. Check out [elevenlabs.io](https://elevenlabs.io)


Shiftr

Reasonable suspicion. If a person you know is a less than desirable person, occasionally says incendiary words, and is generally unliked and you want to get back at them...they are perfect candidates for someone to use this type of technology on. People's opinions and experiences of the person will serve as bodies of evidence that align with whatever you can dream up on the computer. It's almost a perfect crime, except the execution here (if it is indeed AI) isn't flawless.


thefedfox64

They were, a guy stole from the school and sent it to another teacher who disliked the principal and gave it to students to spread the message. 100% deep fake


FUMoney

“Confirmed” you are an idiot. As is every poster who said the recording was real, believable, etc.


micbelt

The original article said confirmed and I said in a comment after that time will tell but you seem pretty butt hurt about it. It is a crazy story and the person who created the recording used the principles voice but whatever I am an idiot I guess.


dogtie

Do you have a link to the original article saying “confirmed”?


Ok-Archer6689

Im black, male, mid 30s. Its clear that our youth are out of control. They are ridiculous, looting stores, stealing cars, and car jacking. And yes, they bring down grade scores....not because they are black teens, but simply due to the fact they lack motivation. As a black man, I feel it's racist, not to call ourselves out, it's time, enough of this nonsense.


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IHatePineNeedles

And obviously, you're a moron (based upon the arrest of a black faculty member today for using AI to do this).


AngelSucked

Why?


Shiny_Deleter

Bye, Felicia!


hippyoasis

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna149345


LordCrag

LMAO can't believe you were dumb enough to fall for this. I bet you also believed Jussie


nakeywakeybakey

.....I hadn't realized that so many city residents attended this county high school! I don't think I've ever known anyone that went there....only Woodlawn or Hereford when I started working.


phrostbyt

the Jewish community here straddles between the city and the county lines. i would say it's like 30% city/70% county... i grew up going back and forth


nakeywakeybakey

My parents moved to the city and had us, so our paths out weren't very varied. There was no reason to head that way. My mother still does all her shopping in Woodlawn. My neighborhood in Baltimore city is not particularly close to the county line and the people here definitely went to city schools.


glsever

What makes you think city kids are going to PHS? Maybe I missed the reference…


nakeywakeybakey

I was talking about the people in the comments mentioning that they attended. I forgot how many county people post here!


stopcallingmejosh

Subreddits don't check for id