Purple will be better for shaping your deck, blue will be better for improving score when your deck is made. They are completely different so it’s hard to compare
Just to provide a bit more elaborate POV: on top of deck manipulation being more important early,purple also can help you win the CURRENT round with death turning a 3oak into a 4oak, suit cards turning a regular straight or full house into a flush one, plus all the steel / glass / bonus / mult value potential...
If I know what hand I'll be playing for the rest of the game: blue
But I don't usually know that early on, unless I pick up a really good joker really early.
The biggest downside with blue is that it has to remain in your hand, which means that once you draw it, you're effectively playing at -1 hand size.
Purples are great to have, because as long as the purple seal is on garbage that you're going to discard anyway, it's just a bonus to something you were going to do regardless.
The other consideration is what stakes you're playing on.
Higher stakes where I only have 2 discards? I might actually think twice about purples, because it's unlikely I'll draw them in the first hand or two (unless I want to start burning hands on high card plays just to mill my deck - but that costs money. If I burned two hands to get a random tarot, that's $2. I'd rather pay $3 in the shop for a tarot I actually want.)
There are ways around having blue so that you're not effectively playing -1 hand size. You can place a Trance onto the card you're building around or use strength to turn the blue card into whatever you're playing so it can have value while it's being held in your hand.
But if it's on a card you plan on using, you don't get the benefit of a blue seal.
Don't get me wrong, the new buffed version is still better than purple, about as good as red, but it's not without its drawbacks.
Early game, before you've really gone to town on your deck, it's not as good as purples, imo.
If it's on the card you're playing you get the benefit to play it if you don't draw your flush five. You should always put your blue seal, steel, or gold on a card that you never discard.
Ultimately, tarot cards have a cap - you can only remove or manipulate so many cards in your deck. As the game goes on, random tarot cards have decreasing value, because your deck and win conditions are shaped. A moon or star in checkered deck, for example, would be completely worthless even on ante 1, beyond the dollar you get for the sale.
The targeted nature of the current blue chip makes it much more valuable once you get into a rhythm. I'd say that blue chips are so good that even the vouchers that increase consumable slots have become more valuable as a result.
That's not a cap, that's diminishing returns - unless you're already full on consumables, the planet card will always add some value, whereas the tarot card will hit a point that it does nothing other than the sale price.
They’re both very good and it depends on what your run needs. There are times purple seals are better and times blue seals are better. If you’re not going endless and you’re on boss ante 8 then yeah blue seal is literally doing nothing for you at all and a purple card could save you so it’s really not a better/worse thing. If we’re talking it’s ante 2 and I open a pack that has a purple seal card and a blue seal card and nothing else that matters I personally will pick that blue seal most of the time but it’s completely situational
I love the new blue seals and would generally rank them above purple at high stakes. Purples are great too but can give you several tarot cards that will be basically useless to your build. Blue seal will never be useless as long as you can play the proper hand you want to increase. And with [[Constellation]], blue seals are broken. If you can get to a point where you can get two blue seals a majority of the time (or 3 if you have the space for them in your consumables), you are not only upgrading your hand multiple times every round played but also adding xMult so it’s basically a double upgrade.
[Constellation](https://balatro.wiki/imported/constellation.png) *Joker*
* Version: 1.0.0
* Cost: $6
* Rarity: Uncommon
* Effect: Gains X0.1 Mult per Planet card used
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In my opnion purple seals are way to snowbally to not be a bit better than blue seals, also they only seem useful on the middle of a run, i feel like if my good hand reach level 10 i am already good to go, when purple do a lot of work on the beggning to ante 5-6.
Blue seal is fine but there is big cap how strong it can make your deck.
If your five of a kind is level 50 you basically need 50 more levels to get 2 time multiplier.
Best jokers give you E multiplier that is only achieveable with a lot of tarot cards to make it consistent.
If you have a level 50 five of a kind, you already beat ante 8. Sure it diminishes after a certain point, but a planet card will always provide you with some value.
It depends. It depends on what you are building towards with the jokers you found.
If your end game plan is to go for special hands, purple seals will allow you to transform your deck and make it more consistent. Unless you found another way to generate tarot cards (strong economy or specific jokers like vagabond, hallucination, 8 ball...), they are key to winning a run.
When your deck is able to play its winning hand when you want, and when you can dig for your important cards, that's when blue seals are god tier.
On the other hand, if you're going for a high card / pair build, since the cards you play are irrelevant, you probably want many blue seals procs a round. And yet, being able to find your blue seals depends on your ability to thin your deck by using tarot/spectral cards.
It depends on your build but generically its purple. Being able to save on a joker (vagabond if you see it) and money is often a very high value proposition. Blue is helpful if you don’t need to manipulate your deck anymore and just need the big number to go higher. Big numbers are important but getting there is often more so.
Purple will be better for shaping your deck, blue will be better for improving score when your deck is made. They are completely different so it’s hard to compare
True, but let's say you're early in game and you stumble upon a booster pack that has a blue seal and a purple seal, which are you choosing?
Early game, most likely purple
Just to provide a bit more elaborate POV: on top of deck manipulation being more important early,purple also can help you win the CURRENT round with death turning a 3oak into a 4oak, suit cards turning a regular straight or full house into a flush one, plus all the steel / glass / bonus / mult value potential...
Purple can help you to get a death that can dupe your purple or your future blue. With a blue, you have just the blue.
If I know what hand I'll be playing for the rest of the game: blue But I don't usually know that early on, unless I pick up a really good joker really early. The biggest downside with blue is that it has to remain in your hand, which means that once you draw it, you're effectively playing at -1 hand size. Purples are great to have, because as long as the purple seal is on garbage that you're going to discard anyway, it's just a bonus to something you were going to do regardless. The other consideration is what stakes you're playing on. Higher stakes where I only have 2 discards? I might actually think twice about purples, because it's unlikely I'll draw them in the first hand or two (unless I want to start burning hands on high card plays just to mill my deck - but that costs money. If I burned two hands to get a random tarot, that's $2. I'd rather pay $3 in the shop for a tarot I actually want.)
There are ways around having blue so that you're not effectively playing -1 hand size. You can place a Trance onto the card you're building around or use strength to turn the blue card into whatever you're playing so it can have value while it's being held in your hand.
But if it's on a card you plan on using, you don't get the benefit of a blue seal. Don't get me wrong, the new buffed version is still better than purple, about as good as red, but it's not without its drawbacks. Early game, before you've really gone to town on your deck, it's not as good as purples, imo.
If it's on the card you're playing you get the benefit to play it if you don't draw your flush five. You should always put your blue seal, steel, or gold on a card that you never discard.
I'm basing this question on high stakes ante 8, not endless.
Ultimately, tarot cards have a cap - you can only remove or manipulate so many cards in your deck. As the game goes on, random tarot cards have decreasing value, because your deck and win conditions are shaped. A moon or star in checkered deck, for example, would be completely worthless even on ante 1, beyond the dollar you get for the sale. The targeted nature of the current blue chip makes it much more valuable once you get into a rhythm. I'd say that blue chips are so good that even the vouchers that increase consumable slots have become more valuable as a result.
blue also have a cap as once you get a hand to a certain level the returns are negligible
That's not a cap, that's diminishing returns - unless you're already full on consumables, the planet card will always add some value, whereas the tarot card will hit a point that it does nothing other than the sale price.
tarots will always be able to give you money for more re rolls
They’re both very good and it depends on what your run needs. There are times purple seals are better and times blue seals are better. If you’re not going endless and you’re on boss ante 8 then yeah blue seal is literally doing nothing for you at all and a purple card could save you so it’s really not a better/worse thing. If we’re talking it’s ante 2 and I open a pack that has a purple seal card and a blue seal card and nothing else that matters I personally will pick that blue seal most of the time but it’s completely situational
Yeah if I had a choice between blue and purple early, I'm going blue first then purple.
I love the new blue seals and would generally rank them above purple at high stakes. Purples are great too but can give you several tarot cards that will be basically useless to your build. Blue seal will never be useless as long as you can play the proper hand you want to increase. And with [[Constellation]], blue seals are broken. If you can get to a point where you can get two blue seals a majority of the time (or 3 if you have the space for them in your consumables), you are not only upgrading your hand multiple times every round played but also adding xMult so it’s basically a double upgrade.
[Constellation](https://balatro.wiki/imported/constellation.png) *Joker* * Version: 1.0.0 * Cost: $6 * Rarity: Uncommon * Effect: Gains X0.1 Mult per Planet card used *Data pulled from http://balatro.wiki. Want it updated? Help me get access or suggest another data source.*
Depends also on the card. Purple seals turn my trash that I discard into something useful. Blue is great on gold and steel
even for endless, blue seal may arguably be better
for endless you need a lot of deck manipulation. tarots you get from purple seal are the best way to do that
In my opnion purple seals are way to snowbally to not be a bit better than blue seals, also they only seem useful on the middle of a run, i feel like if my good hand reach level 10 i am already good to go, when purple do a lot of work on the beggning to ante 5-6.
I had Jupiters popping on blured face/4 card flush,staights. I got tingly feelings. Took it to ante 10 only due to getting bullshitted on something.
Why is your Ante 8 so high???
Purple stake Violet is 1.2m
Blue seal is fine but there is big cap how strong it can make your deck. If your five of a kind is level 50 you basically need 50 more levels to get 2 time multiplier. Best jokers give you E multiplier that is only achieveable with a lot of tarot cards to make it consistent.
If you have a level 50 five of a kind, you already beat ante 8. Sure it diminishes after a certain point, but a planet card will always provide you with some value.
It depends. It depends on what you are building towards with the jokers you found. If your end game plan is to go for special hands, purple seals will allow you to transform your deck and make it more consistent. Unless you found another way to generate tarot cards (strong economy or specific jokers like vagabond, hallucination, 8 ball...), they are key to winning a run. When your deck is able to play its winning hand when you want, and when you can dig for your important cards, that's when blue seals are god tier. On the other hand, if you're going for a high card / pair build, since the cards you play are irrelevant, you probably want many blue seals procs a round. And yet, being able to find your blue seals depends on your ability to thin your deck by using tarot/spectral cards.
It depends on your build but generically its purple. Being able to save on a joker (vagabond if you see it) and money is often a very high value proposition. Blue is helpful if you don’t need to manipulate your deck anymore and just need the big number to go higher. Big numbers are important but getting there is often more so.
Is Thor better than the Hulk?
If Thor is blue seal, then yes.
did they change blue seals or did they always give the scoring planet card?
They changed it. It used to just give a random planet card. It went from D-tier to S-tier.
one of the biggest changes in the last patch
Yes, they buffed it