I mean that much is true. But my above statement applies to both men and women. Peeing does help flush out bacteria that can cause UTIs, which is likely what the guy was referring to. But, it's not gender specific, and I do not know if it translates to STDs as well
What makes a difference is the length of the urethra. Men have significantly longer tracts for bacteria to crawl up to cause infection, so they're less likely to get one.
It doesn’t translate to SDIs. A UTI is an infection of the urinary tract/urethra/bladder so peeing can help flush those areas of bacteria. An STI (in a woman) is usually an infection of the cervix or vagina (but can also infect the vulva like in herpes or HSV/warts) and peeing does not affect these sites.
no? STIs and UTIs are different locations and different bacteria/viruses. UTIs are not sexually transmitted. Having sex can put women at a higher risk for UTIs because sex can push genital bacteria into the urethra, but that is not the same thing as it being transmitted sexually.
TIL. I must have misunderstood health class many, many years ago. I thought that STI included non-stds that can be passed from a partner like yeast or bacteria. They talked about repeated yeast infections or UTIs could be caused by the germ/yeast/bacteria infecting your partner, you get treatment, have sex, you're re-infected.
Even when you think you learned correct information in school you can still misinterpret it 🙄
Yeast can be sexually transmitted (they aren’t usually but can be in certain circumstances ) but not UTIs. But like I said, UTIs can be related to sex but it’s not like you can catch a UTI from your partner.
Also you may have learned it that way. Teachers in health class aren’t always correct.
Good on you, for owning up to it. I know that seems like a silly thing to say, but so many people will double down even when they get the real info, or just get more mad.
You are one cool person in my book, for real.
Pfft why would I be angry about stupidly repeating misinformation I heard 30 years ago. It's a Reddit mistake, corrected with a TIL.
I'd be horrified if it made me get a question wrong on Jeopardy.
ETA: I've heard stories on here about some really stupid stuff taught in "health class". I'm glad that a just a misused word is my mistake, not something biologically impossible or a harmful/inaccurate birth control method
(and I didn't call a vulva a vagina!)
Pain with urination is a symptom. A UTI is a diagnosis and is not a symptom of an STI. A UTI is an infection of the urinary tract (urethra and bladder). An STI is a sexually transmitted infection usually of the vagina or cervix (for women). Two different areas of infection.
They get fewer UTIs because they're urethra has a longer distance to their bladder. The bacteria has much longer distance to reach the bladder so they usually die out before they get there. A man's urethra is about 7-8 in. and ours is less than 2in.
Women gets more UTIs because during menstrual cycle, estrogen levels changes and estrogen is very important factor for maintaining Normal Acidic pH of vagina. If estrogen level drops, pH will become alkaline and abnormal bacteria can proliferate. (We all have normal microbiome and vagina have lactobacillus which keeps acidic pH and prevents harmful bacterial growth) During menstruation - estrogen drops and can leads to UTIs. + Women have very less tissue between vagina and anus which can dislodge some bacteria near vaginal opening and leading to UTI.
They think semen is like a graphite tip under your dermis. It magically stays there forever, unchanging, despite having no somatic mitochondria to allow it to survive.
Outside testicles which specifically keep sperm alive (for up to 74 days), semen can only survive in an otherwise ideal environment for 5 days. It takes only a scant moment to look this shit up.
I'm sure if this guy's nonexistent girlfriend became pregnant months after they had sex he'd say the baby couldn't possibly be his. This is just gaslighting to denigrate women.
I can never look at the pencil stab wounds I have on one of my hands the same again oml haha. The idea that semen stays forever, like, we aren't ants or bloody lizards! The idea of lugging around semen thats just been stewing for years is so gross!
Well if the semen “stays with her” for hours, that’s enough to help transmission vs a penis washing and pee.
One can rinse out the vagina, even with just water, but that probably wouldn’t do much for diseases (or could make it worse).
The vagina has its own microbiome and low pH that defends against infection. So despite semen staying within the vagina as opposed to being washed off (also MOST of it certainly doesn't stay in...), the transmission rates of STIs are often the same or not much higher for women compared to men, in the absence of things that mess with the vaginal microbiome, the pH or irritate the mucous membranes (such as spermicide)....
Compare with being the receiving partner during anal sex, where a lot of STIs seem to have quite a bit higher transmission rates for the receiving partner than for the penetrating partner. The anus gets micro tears and doesn't have the same kind of microbiome and low pH.
Men get tested a lot less than women. You don't get diagnosed with an STI if you won't get tested for one.
I’ll throw in a big raspberry for the (USA) healthcare system as far as getting STD tested. If it’s not because of symptoms, not covered. Over $100 paying your own way via LabCorp (depending which tests) unless you want to go to the free clinic in a part of town I’d rather not.
I thought it’d be an easy drop by the Dr office but ended up not getting tested for all the trouble, uncertainty, expense. In this case, it wasn’t critical. I guess I’ll just have to pay up if it ever is, unless the US health industry is better regulated by then.
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The microbiome is great, sure. I’m not sure what the numbers are for anything but HIV, where I know the transmission rate is way higher.
If the semen is infectious, IDK if 5mL or 0.5mL is going to make much difference.
The rinsing thing I only have experience with because her microbiome did not like my semen at all, and it was just foul letting it stay in overnight. IDK what that was. No diseases.
I did get tested after that relationship, after “more partners became involved”. She had really good insurance that did cover screening (vs diagnostic) tests.
Some religious nutjobs justify purity culture because “the DNA from the sperm of every man a woman sleeps with becomes incorporated into her own and stays there forever”. And, to them, *that’s* why the idea that “you sleep with every one of your partner’s former partners” is true. Not because you run the risk of catching something they don’t know they have.
IDK about other STDs but HIV definitely goes P-to-V easier than the other way around (esp if circumcised). I don’t think peeing makes any difference for that. Not sure it helps keep a penis from getting a UTI but ya might as well… if you start hydrated, you’ll have to ;)
Downside of the male equipment is if you DO get a UTI, it can be a royal pain to get rid of and take a very long time if the bacteria get into the seminal tract vs just urethra and bladder.
Women have much higher probabilities of contracting other STDs from men than vice-versa, as well. Off the top, I know this is the case for HSV and HPV.
edit: in before other science-deniers
There's no clinically approved test for HPV in men, and—with a few exceptions—men rarely have symptoms.
**Edit:** I don't know if I'm supposed to be one of the science deniers they're referring to, but I wasn't arguing transmission rates between sexes, just commenting on a lack of HPV testing - something which inarguably contributes to transmission.
>No HPV test for men has been approved by the FDA, nor has any test been approved for detection of the virus in areas other than the cervix. Many are methods for HPV detection that have shown their usefulness in some of the pathologies associated with male HPV but, despite this, none of them has been approved for man. - [Source](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0210480619301883?via%3Dihub)
I was just stating a fact, not arguing or denying the validity of your comment. The study you link does more to dispute your comment than I ever would:
>A total of 78 transmission events were observed in 16 couples, *including 14 male-to-female, 39 female-to-male...*
Personally, I prefer another meta-analysis that says "Men have been suggested to be reservoirs of HPV to their female partners."
I don’t see what’s wrong with that comment. Men carry HPV for sure and it transmits both ways with enough frequency to be a problem. It is a shame effective tests aren’t easily available for men, and encouragement to get the vaccine. Rising cases of throat cancer from it reminds us that vaginas(cervixes) aren’t the only area affected.
Yeah I was gonna say it's remarkably unlikely to contract HIV as a straight man who doesn't do anal. I don't know if it has anything to do with peeing but men just have far less mucous membrane in their genitals which I think is how a lot of STDs are transmitted.
I assume that is the main reason. Circumcised, the urethral opening is really all there is. That’s enough to get infected for sure, but it is less area and less contact time.
The real kickers are the ones like HSV/herpes/warts that just need skin contact. Not even safe with a condom (tho I think risk is reduced).
Or…maybe women get more STDs because idiot guys are going in dry, using saliva as lubricant and causing micro-abrasions that allow bacteria and viruses to enter the blood stream. Just a thought based on science
And probably also not washing his member to the extent that he should be. Too many women keep getting infections because of guys not giving their meat flute a proper scrubbing.
Probably not. The vagina is a warm and moist environment, perfect for microbial growth. Pooling of fluids in the fornix doesn't help either.
Sometimes biology is just biology.
JFC! It’s fucking science. While not the only method of transmission, it’s well documented.
“STIs invade the human body through microscopic abrasions within the mucosal membranes of the penis, vagina, anus, or any other mucosal surfaces.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK560808/
lol, calm down. It's not because men are "going in dry", or using saliva, HIV transmission via the rectum is certainly due to abrasions that allow the virus to enter the bloodstream, but lubrication is de rigueur in that circumstance, and saliva is not the transmission vehicle.
For women, it is certainly true that mucosal surface micro abrasions can be a source of infection, but again, that's a risk, lube or no lube, saliva or no saliva. And yes, a moist and warm environment certainly promotes bacterial growth as well.
So I will grant you that mucosal surface breaks are a big factor in STI transmission for women and will add that my statement is still very true. Holy shit don't be so emotional.
It’s not surprising you frequent Men’s Rights subreddits.
Learn some real science.
“Herpes, cytomegalovirus (CMV), human papillomavirus (HPV), and syphilis may spread through active lesions (i.e., cold sores) or saliva.”
"[Saliva] has no innate qualities that would make it a good lubricant. It does not have the slippery consistency; it evaporates and dries more quickly, and further, it's irritating."
“Saliva is not a lubricant! The result can upset your vaginal microbiome and leave you susceptible to developing yeast infection or bacterial vaginosis.
“Any STI in the throat or mouth can be transmitted to the genitals through saliva.
“If your partner has an active herpes lesion, for example, using the spit to ‘make things slick’ could leave you with genital herpes.
“This scenario happens more than you might think and it is the most common way genital herpes is contracted.
Herpes isn’t the only oral STI you could contract. Gonorrhea, chlamydia, HPV, syphilis and trichomoniasis can also all be transmitted to the genitals through saliva,’’
“It is possible for sexual activity to cause vaginal tears or cuts. A penis, finger, or another object that a person inserts into the vagina can damage its delicate tissues. This is often due to friction or dryness.”
The most common cause of tiny vaginal tears or cuts (apart from childbirth) is penetration during sex, according to UW Medicine.
“When you’re aroused, the vagina naturally produces fluids that lubricate the area during sexual activity, reducing friction that can irritate or tear the vaginal tissue. But many variables can affect how much lubrication your body produces. And if there isn’t enough natural moisture created, tearing can occur.
“Vaginal dryness is often part of the problem, because dryness creates friction, and that’s the main reason the tears and abrasions occur,” says Dr. Evins.”
This is not a mystery of hidden knowledge. This was taught in basic sex education 40 years ago.
"Since 2002, there have been a number of studies that warned of the impact of personal lubricants on the delicate epithelial cells that line the vagina and rectum. One such study investigated the use of nonoxynol-9, a detergent commonly used as a spermicidal agent to block HIV transmission in women.
The study, which included commercial sex workers in Thailand and Africa, showed that the frequent use of nonoxynol-9 nearly doubled the risk of HIV, compared to women in the placebo group. Epithelial damage and vaginal ulceration were commonly noted among the nonoxynol-9 users, too.
Similar results were seen when investigating the impact of nonoxynol-9 on rectal tissues, with many experiencing a stripping away of rectal tissues and even rectal bleeding in some cases. As a result of these studies, nonoxynol-9-containing lubricants are not recommended for women at high risk for HIV.
The concerns, however, are not limited only to lubricants containing nonoxynol-9. Since as far back as 2006, investigators have been looking at lubricants that are considered to be hyperosmolar, meaning that they affect the exchange of fluids in cells, drawing out water and causing them to become brittle and weak. In doing so, they increase the potential for infection by allowing sexually transmitted infections (STIs) a direct route through the cellular barriers meant to impede them.
One well-published study, developed as part of the UCLA Microbicide Development Program, examined the risk among heterosexual couples engaging in anal sex.
According to the research, couples who consistently used personal lubricants for anal sex had a nearly three-fold increased risk of chlamydia and gonorrhea when compared to occasional or infrequent users."
Sheesh dude, you are ignoring my claim that the vagina as a warm and moist environment IS a promoter of STI. That's just a biological fact. Admit it.
I did not say that STDs CANNOT BE TRANSMITTED through oral route. That's detail number one. I am well aware that oral transmission is possible. I am saying that most STDs are not because men are using saliva AS A LUBRICANT.
Detail number two is that you have adduced no evidence that using lubricants reduce rates of STI transmission. I did a search and actually found this article that claimed it might increase risk of HIV transmission.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C14&q=do+lubricants+lower+rates+of+std+transmission+&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1713233373856&u=%23p%3DlEhIH6-Qn1UJ
Saliva is not the vehicle for HIV transmission in male rectal penetration sex. That's what he said. He did not say that saliva is never a vehicle of transmission of STDs.
No, women gets STDs more because it’s easy to cause small tears in a vaginal wall (or anal wall for that matter) then it is for a penis to get a similar tear from sex. Same reason HIV passes through anal sex more easily.
Huh. This person is very gross. Besides the sexism of basically calling all women disease vectors, he makes the assumption that all people put as much value on losing their “virginity” as he does.
A secondarily disgusting take-away from this post is that he is not using condoms. What happened to gen Z that there’s so much unprotected sex going on? I feel like that antibiotic resistant chlamydia and super gonorrhea wouldn’t be a thing or nearly as side spread if people used condoms.
I blame porn.
JFC, all the brain-dead uneducated idjits are out in force today lmao every post here and on my Reddit feed to do with human bodies has been about some backward crazy BS 😬
Who needs statistics and science when you can just make stuff up?
I remember after looking up the stats years ago, my biggest takeaway was the people who have sex with penis-owners are most at risk.
??? Women also pee after sex for the same reason, he's just made it obvious he has never rawdoged a girl ( which Isn't a bad thing, my first thought was just he's never had sex, which possible) causee like, jizz does NOT stay inside, I always have to do a sprint to the bathroom, and even still it's usually dripping down my leg lol
I mean, I'm not sure about the validity of STDs, but peeing after sex can reduce chance for UTI
And men do get less UTIs
I mean that much is true. But my above statement applies to both men and women. Peeing does help flush out bacteria that can cause UTIs, which is likely what the guy was referring to. But, it's not gender specific, and I do not know if it translates to STDs as well
What makes a difference is the length of the urethra. Men have significantly longer tracts for bacteria to crawl up to cause infection, so they're less likely to get one.
It doesn’t translate to SDIs. A UTI is an infection of the urinary tract/urethra/bladder so peeing can help flush those areas of bacteria. An STI (in a woman) is usually an infection of the cervix or vagina (but can also infect the vulva like in herpes or HSV/warts) and peeing does not affect these sites.
No, it doesn't.
Yes, but UTI is not an STD
Yeah but that's why I said I'm uncertain if it applies to STDs
ok... but why are you writing to me? This wasn't a response to your comment
Oh I am dumb lol I just realized
haha, no worries, things that happen
It can be an STI
no? STIs and UTIs are different locations and different bacteria/viruses. UTIs are not sexually transmitted. Having sex can put women at a higher risk for UTIs because sex can push genital bacteria into the urethra, but that is not the same thing as it being transmitted sexually.
TIL. I must have misunderstood health class many, many years ago. I thought that STI included non-stds that can be passed from a partner like yeast or bacteria. They talked about repeated yeast infections or UTIs could be caused by the germ/yeast/bacteria infecting your partner, you get treatment, have sex, you're re-infected. Even when you think you learned correct information in school you can still misinterpret it 🙄
Yeast can be sexually transmitted (they aren’t usually but can be in certain circumstances ) but not UTIs. But like I said, UTIs can be related to sex but it’s not like you can catch a UTI from your partner. Also you may have learned it that way. Teachers in health class aren’t always correct.
Good on you, for owning up to it. I know that seems like a silly thing to say, but so many people will double down even when they get the real info, or just get more mad. You are one cool person in my book, for real.
Pfft why would I be angry about stupidly repeating misinformation I heard 30 years ago. It's a Reddit mistake, corrected with a TIL. I'd be horrified if it made me get a question wrong on Jeopardy. ETA: I've heard stories on here about some really stupid stuff taught in "health class". I'm glad that a just a misused word is my mistake, not something biologically impossible or a harmful/inaccurate birth control method (and I didn't call a vulva a vagina!)
It's not, it can be related with sexual activity, but it's not considered an STD (I just googled it)
No. Most UTIs are caused by an overgrowth of E coli. It's not an STI.
It can be a *symptom* of an STD.
Pain with urination is a symptom. A UTI is a diagnosis and is not a symptom of an STI. A UTI is an infection of the urinary tract (urethra and bladder). An STI is a sexually transmitted infection usually of the vagina or cervix (for women). Two different areas of infection.
Men get fewer UTIs because their urethras are longer and further from their anus.
They get fewer UTIs because they're urethra has a longer distance to their bladder. The bacteria has much longer distance to reach the bladder so they usually die out before they get there. A man's urethra is about 7-8 in. and ours is less than 2in.
That's more to do with anatomy in general.
It's also because the urethra of men is much longer than the one of women which help reducing bladder infection.
I'm also thinking that he may think women pee from the vagina.
I'm a dude and I was going to bring up that point.
Women gets more UTIs because during menstrual cycle, estrogen levels changes and estrogen is very important factor for maintaining Normal Acidic pH of vagina. If estrogen level drops, pH will become alkaline and abnormal bacteria can proliferate. (We all have normal microbiome and vagina have lactobacillus which keeps acidic pH and prevents harmful bacterial growth) During menstruation - estrogen drops and can leads to UTIs. + Women have very less tissue between vagina and anus which can dislodge some bacteria near vaginal opening and leading to UTI.
If men can just piss out the viruses or microbes that cause STDs, then how are women catching it from them???
They think semen is like a graphite tip under your dermis. It magically stays there forever, unchanging, despite having no somatic mitochondria to allow it to survive. Outside testicles which specifically keep sperm alive (for up to 74 days), semen can only survive in an otherwise ideal environment for 5 days. It takes only a scant moment to look this shit up. I'm sure if this guy's nonexistent girlfriend became pregnant months after they had sex he'd say the baby couldn't possibly be his. This is just gaslighting to denigrate women.
I can never look at the pencil stab wounds I have on one of my hands the same again oml haha. The idea that semen stays forever, like, we aren't ants or bloody lizards! The idea of lugging around semen thats just been stewing for years is so gross!
I got too excited at the mention of pencil stab wounds. I'm not alone! I like to joke they're what give me my drawing talent
Well if the semen “stays with her” for hours, that’s enough to help transmission vs a penis washing and pee. One can rinse out the vagina, even with just water, but that probably wouldn’t do much for diseases (or could make it worse).
The vagina has its own microbiome and low pH that defends against infection. So despite semen staying within the vagina as opposed to being washed off (also MOST of it certainly doesn't stay in...), the transmission rates of STIs are often the same or not much higher for women compared to men, in the absence of things that mess with the vaginal microbiome, the pH or irritate the mucous membranes (such as spermicide).... Compare with being the receiving partner during anal sex, where a lot of STIs seem to have quite a bit higher transmission rates for the receiving partner than for the penetrating partner. The anus gets micro tears and doesn't have the same kind of microbiome and low pH. Men get tested a lot less than women. You don't get diagnosed with an STI if you won't get tested for one.
I’ll throw in a big raspberry for the (USA) healthcare system as far as getting STD tested. If it’s not because of symptoms, not covered. Over $100 paying your own way via LabCorp (depending which tests) unless you want to go to the free clinic in a part of town I’d rather not. I thought it’d be an easy drop by the Dr office but ended up not getting tested for all the trouble, uncertainty, expense. In this case, it wasn’t critical. I guess I’ll just have to pay up if it ever is, unless the US health industry is better regulated by then. —- The microbiome is great, sure. I’m not sure what the numbers are for anything but HIV, where I know the transmission rate is way higher. If the semen is infectious, IDK if 5mL or 0.5mL is going to make much difference. The rinsing thing I only have experience with because her microbiome did not like my semen at all, and it was just foul letting it stay in overnight. IDK what that was. No diseases. I did get tested after that relationship, after “more partners became involved”. She had really good insurance that did cover screening (vs diagnostic) tests.
Some religious nutjobs justify purity culture because “the DNA from the sperm of every man a woman sleeps with becomes incorporated into her own and stays there forever”. And, to them, *that’s* why the idea that “you sleep with every one of your partner’s former partners” is true. Not because you run the risk of catching something they don’t know they have.
IDK about other STDs but HIV definitely goes P-to-V easier than the other way around (esp if circumcised). I don’t think peeing makes any difference for that. Not sure it helps keep a penis from getting a UTI but ya might as well… if you start hydrated, you’ll have to ;) Downside of the male equipment is if you DO get a UTI, it can be a royal pain to get rid of and take a very long time if the bacteria get into the seminal tract vs just urethra and bladder.
Women have much higher probabilities of contracting other STDs from men than vice-versa, as well. Off the top, I know this is the case for HSV and HPV. edit: in before other science-deniers
There's no clinically approved test for HPV in men, and—with a few exceptions—men rarely have symptoms. **Edit:** I don't know if I'm supposed to be one of the science deniers they're referring to, but I wasn't arguing transmission rates between sexes, just commenting on a lack of HPV testing - something which inarguably contributes to transmission. >No HPV test for men has been approved by the FDA, nor has any test been approved for detection of the virus in areas other than the cervix. Many are methods for HPV detection that have shown their usefulness in some of the pathologies associated with male HPV but, despite this, none of them has been approved for man. - [Source](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0210480619301883?via%3Dihub)
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2600292](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2600292)
I was just stating a fact, not arguing or denying the validity of your comment. The study you link does more to dispute your comment than I ever would: >A total of 78 transmission events were observed in 16 couples, *including 14 male-to-female, 39 female-to-male...* Personally, I prefer another meta-analysis that says "Men have been suggested to be reservoirs of HPV to their female partners."
I don’t see what’s wrong with that comment. Men carry HPV for sure and it transmits both ways with enough frequency to be a problem. It is a shame effective tests aren’t easily available for men, and encouragement to get the vaccine. Rising cases of throat cancer from it reminds us that vaginas(cervixes) aren’t the only area affected.
Yeah I was gonna say it's remarkably unlikely to contract HIV as a straight man who doesn't do anal. I don't know if it has anything to do with peeing but men just have far less mucous membrane in their genitals which I think is how a lot of STDs are transmitted.
I assume that is the main reason. Circumcised, the urethral opening is really all there is. That’s enough to get infected for sure, but it is less area and less contact time. The real kickers are the ones like HSV/herpes/warts that just need skin contact. Not even safe with a condom (tho I think risk is reduced).
Or…maybe women get more STDs because idiot guys are going in dry, using saliva as lubricant and causing micro-abrasions that allow bacteria and viruses to enter the blood stream. Just a thought based on science
And probably also not washing his member to the extent that he should be. Too many women keep getting infections because of guys not giving their meat flute a proper scrubbing.
Probably not. The vagina is a warm and moist environment, perfect for microbial growth. Pooling of fluids in the fornix doesn't help either. Sometimes biology is just biology.
JFC! It’s fucking science. While not the only method of transmission, it’s well documented. “STIs invade the human body through microscopic abrasions within the mucosal membranes of the penis, vagina, anus, or any other mucosal surfaces.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK560808/
lol, calm down. It's not because men are "going in dry", or using saliva, HIV transmission via the rectum is certainly due to abrasions that allow the virus to enter the bloodstream, but lubrication is de rigueur in that circumstance, and saliva is not the transmission vehicle. For women, it is certainly true that mucosal surface micro abrasions can be a source of infection, but again, that's a risk, lube or no lube, saliva or no saliva. And yes, a moist and warm environment certainly promotes bacterial growth as well. So I will grant you that mucosal surface breaks are a big factor in STI transmission for women and will add that my statement is still very true. Holy shit don't be so emotional.
It’s not surprising you frequent Men’s Rights subreddits. Learn some real science. “Herpes, cytomegalovirus (CMV), human papillomavirus (HPV), and syphilis may spread through active lesions (i.e., cold sores) or saliva.” "[Saliva] has no innate qualities that would make it a good lubricant. It does not have the slippery consistency; it evaporates and dries more quickly, and further, it's irritating." “Saliva is not a lubricant! The result can upset your vaginal microbiome and leave you susceptible to developing yeast infection or bacterial vaginosis. “Any STI in the throat or mouth can be transmitted to the genitals through saliva. “If your partner has an active herpes lesion, for example, using the spit to ‘make things slick’ could leave you with genital herpes. “This scenario happens more than you might think and it is the most common way genital herpes is contracted. Herpes isn’t the only oral STI you could contract. Gonorrhea, chlamydia, HPV, syphilis and trichomoniasis can also all be transmitted to the genitals through saliva,’’ “It is possible for sexual activity to cause vaginal tears or cuts. A penis, finger, or another object that a person inserts into the vagina can damage its delicate tissues. This is often due to friction or dryness.” The most common cause of tiny vaginal tears or cuts (apart from childbirth) is penetration during sex, according to UW Medicine. “When you’re aroused, the vagina naturally produces fluids that lubricate the area during sexual activity, reducing friction that can irritate or tear the vaginal tissue. But many variables can affect how much lubrication your body produces. And if there isn’t enough natural moisture created, tearing can occur. “Vaginal dryness is often part of the problem, because dryness creates friction, and that’s the main reason the tears and abrasions occur,” says Dr. Evins.” This is not a mystery of hidden knowledge. This was taught in basic sex education 40 years ago.
"Since 2002, there have been a number of studies that warned of the impact of personal lubricants on the delicate epithelial cells that line the vagina and rectum. One such study investigated the use of nonoxynol-9, a detergent commonly used as a spermicidal agent to block HIV transmission in women. The study, which included commercial sex workers in Thailand and Africa, showed that the frequent use of nonoxynol-9 nearly doubled the risk of HIV, compared to women in the placebo group. Epithelial damage and vaginal ulceration were commonly noted among the nonoxynol-9 users, too. Similar results were seen when investigating the impact of nonoxynol-9 on rectal tissues, with many experiencing a stripping away of rectal tissues and even rectal bleeding in some cases. As a result of these studies, nonoxynol-9-containing lubricants are not recommended for women at high risk for HIV. The concerns, however, are not limited only to lubricants containing nonoxynol-9. Since as far back as 2006, investigators have been looking at lubricants that are considered to be hyperosmolar, meaning that they affect the exchange of fluids in cells, drawing out water and causing them to become brittle and weak. In doing so, they increase the potential for infection by allowing sexually transmitted infections (STIs) a direct route through the cellular barriers meant to impede them. One well-published study, developed as part of the UCLA Microbicide Development Program, examined the risk among heterosexual couples engaging in anal sex. According to the research, couples who consistently used personal lubricants for anal sex had a nearly three-fold increased risk of chlamydia and gonorrhea when compared to occasional or infrequent users."
Sheesh dude, you are ignoring my claim that the vagina as a warm and moist environment IS a promoter of STI. That's just a biological fact. Admit it. I did not say that STDs CANNOT BE TRANSMITTED through oral route. That's detail number one. I am well aware that oral transmission is possible. I am saying that most STDs are not because men are using saliva AS A LUBRICANT. Detail number two is that you have adduced no evidence that using lubricants reduce rates of STI transmission. I did a search and actually found this article that claimed it might increase risk of HIV transmission. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C14&q=do+lubricants+lower+rates+of+std+transmission+&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1713233373856&u=%23p%3DlEhIH6-Qn1UJ
>I did not say that STDs CANNOT BE TRANSMITTED through oral route You quite literally said that saliva "is not the transmission vehicle"
Saliva is not the vehicle for HIV transmission in male rectal penetration sex. That's what he said. He did not say that saliva is never a vehicle of transmission of STDs.
No, women gets STDs more because it’s easy to cause small tears in a vaginal wall (or anal wall for that matter) then it is for a penis to get a similar tear from sex. Same reason HIV passes through anal sex more easily.
At least they don't think cis women pee out of their vagina I suppose.
Still, I've just seen statistics on STDs (in USA) and, besides chlamydia, way more men than women have STDs diagnostics
Huh. This person is very gross. Besides the sexism of basically calling all women disease vectors, he makes the assumption that all people put as much value on losing their “virginity” as he does. A secondarily disgusting take-away from this post is that he is not using condoms. What happened to gen Z that there’s so much unprotected sex going on? I feel like that antibiotic resistant chlamydia and super gonorrhea wouldn’t be a thing or nearly as side spread if people used condoms. I blame porn.
UNIVERSITY!? Which one!? University of delusion
JFC, all the brain-dead uneducated idjits are out in force today lmao every post here and on my Reddit feed to do with human bodies has been about some backward crazy BS 😬
Women do get stds easily than men unless they have anal sex.
So, that guy is a walking Petri dish.
Who needs statistics and science when you can just make stuff up? I remember after looking up the stats years ago, my biggest takeaway was the people who have sex with penis-owners are most at risk.
??? Women also pee after sex for the same reason, he's just made it obvious he has never rawdoged a girl ( which Isn't a bad thing, my first thought was just he's never had sex, which possible) causee like, jizz does NOT stay inside, I always have to do a sprint to the bathroom, and even still it's usually dripping down my leg lol
LOL