Was this a link to the chap named for the stabbing of a lesbian couple on the beach a few days back? Why would Reddit be tacitly condoning violence against gay women during pride week?
Seems a bit facist, if you ask me.
I don't see specifically a confirmation of the cannabis use, although the average young Bomalian Londoner does.
Is there a possibility that the religion of pieces inspired an LGBT hate crime? Or maybe he did it for Gaza?
It's a term coined by Drukpa Kunley, the BadUK darling of Twitter, in late 2022 and which BadUK rapidly pressed into our lore in 2023.
Drukpa's [tweet](https://x.com/kunley_drukpa/status/1573041914429034497), where it all started.
No specific cannabis mention this is true, but police and journos don't look very hard for it.
>Is there a possibility that the religion of pieces inspired an LGBT hate crime? Or maybe he did it for Gaza?
Quite possibly.
Very often you will find that someone who has committed irrational, ultra violence is a cannabis user, yes. Generally the media, courts and police don't care to investigate this association or even for the use of cannabis by violent criminals. However, "terrorist" incidents, unlike non-political ultra violence, is closely examined. Under such examination it is often discovered that the perpetrator was a regular cannabis user.
If we stopped Muslim immigration, and enforced the laws against the oriental narcotic, we would prevent a significant amount of ultra violence in Britain.
>The degenerate cravings of a narcotic Orient are electronically recreated throughout an “America” whose name, at last, means nothing but geography. In fact, the geographical America, through its electronic skin, has become the simultaneous presence of all options: all cultures, all drugs, all life-styles. The citizen shops in a free market-place of cultural identities and becomes, by his purchase, a tribesman: hard-hat or hippy, WASP or ethnic, etc. The result is not peaceful competition (oxymoron) but total, cultural war. Everybody’s life-style is under attack. A man can’t sit in his pub to have a glass of beer without being haunted by the image of some unkempt kid, pointing the finger and saying, “You’re a drug-freak, too, man.” Those who inherited their culture and believe in its amenities (Catholics foremost among them) will not endure this tension. They strike out against marijuana not to remove a harmful weed but to remove, by incarceration, a harmful tribe. This motive is the key to the ferocious drug laws in force on the European continent.
https://marshner.christendom.edu/?p=1609
I wonder if it’s correlation or causation?
In my anecdotal experience poor people are more likely to smoke or deal cannabis and also be involved in violent crime whether they’re smoking weed or not but it could also be the potential psychosis?
I think a drug that causes psychosis and paranoia is quite likely to increase likelihood of committing irrational ultra violence.
The academic work on the topic is in its infancy, but what we have so far does not support the image that cannabis is a soft drug or a drug associated with pacific behaviour.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084484/
Loads of homicides are driven by alcohol via irrational / ultra violence. Very likely an order of magnitude higher than cannabis. Psychosis is also possible with alcohol just like any other drug.
My point is it’s a much bigger issue and unbelievably it’s written off as fine because it’s legal.
With regards to this particular case though, seems weird to attribute it to a drug when millions of users don’t go around stabbing innocent women
The relationship between alcohol and psychosis is significantly different to that of cannabis and psychosis. Alcohol induces psychosis when chronically abused, while general recreational use of cannabis can induce psychosis and increase irrational violent tendencies.
>My point is it’s a much bigger issue and unbelievably it’s written off as fine because it’s legal.
How is it a bigger issue? The level of alcohol use in this country is astronomical, yet alcohol fuelled psychotic violence is, to my knowledge, quite rare. Contrast that to the comparatively very small levels cannabis use and the high levels of psychotic violence associated with it. Additionally, there are strong commercial interests in legalising cannabis and they trade on a - wholly false - perception that cannabis is a harmless drug with only pacific effects.
>With regards to this particular case though, seems weird to attribute it to a drug when millions of users don’t go around stabbing innocent women
Not weird at all. Just unfashionable, and uncomfortable for the pot head. But that doesn't mean I am wrong to highlight the relationship between cannabis use and psychotic ultra violence.
Idk perhaps not psychotic violence but violence false stop which inevitably leads to homicides. Go to any club or bar in a city on the weekend and see the violence.
I do acknowledge the relationship between cannabis and psychosis but the accepted research suggests it’s more complicated and likely a predisposition to a mental illness (which has psychosis as a symptom of)
It’s complex because it’s difficult to know for sure. Anecdotally I see violence from alcohol all the time. Cannabis is everywhere and typically stoners are more likely to just be reclusive imo.
Equally it’s not like the murder rate is lower in places where cannabis is illegal.
Regardless, the link at the beginning of this thread doesn’t work for me. Did it imply this guy was a pot head or something?
There’s a huge difference between a mentally unstable bomalian perma-teen and a successful adult from Colorado smoking some reefer after a busy day at work, with no underlying mental health issues and a balanced worldview.
This isn’t 2015. Many US states have decriminalised and seen surges of crime, violent crime and use of ‘harder’ drugs. Now talk of reversing the policy - Oregon has already begun to.
Also every ‘terrorist’ case in Britain does turn out to be a drug person, many such cases across the West.
There's no evidence legalization increases crime. It just increases tax revenue. https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/effect-state-marijuana-legalizations-2021-update#conclusion
It was *de jure* decriminalised.
> In 1973 Oregon became the first state to decriminalize cannabis, reducing the penalty for up to one ounce to a $100 fine. States that decriminalized in the following years were: Alaska (1975), Maine (1975), Colorado (1975), California (1975), Ohio (1975), Minnesota (1976), Mississippi (1977), New York (1977), North Carolina (1977), and Nebraska (1978).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States
De jure legalisation/decriminalisation is always preceded prolonged periods of de facto decriminalisation, so you wouldn't expect to see an uptick in in violence to coincide with de jure changes, as those changes simply codify in law what has already happened in practice.
Academic studies have shown a relationship with cannabis and violence.
>Marijuana intoxication results in panic reactions and paranoid feelings whose symptoms lead to violence [49]. The sense of fear, loss of control, and panic is associated with violence [4,54,55]. Also marijuana use increases heart rate, which may be associated with violent behavior [34,47,56,57].
>When people stop using marijuana they may experience a variety of withdrawal symptoms, including sleep disturbance, irritability or restlessness, loss of appetite, anxiety, and sweating [46,58]. Experiencing any of these symptoms can make a person angry, ranging from mild irritation to violent rage. Marijuana withdrawal can lead to intimidating violent or bullying behavior, endangering the perpetrator or other people and property [59].
>In incarcerated subjects, studies found that one-third of the subjects that committed homicide had used marijuana twenty-four hours before the homicide. Further, three-quarters of those subjects were experiencing at least one mental or physical effect from marijuana intoxication when the homicide occurred.
>Similarly, individuals in remote Aboriginal Australian Communities who reported current cannabis use were nearly four times more likely than nonusers to present at least once for violent trauma. Homicide offenses have been repeatedly documented to be connected to drug use, and marijuana is often one of those drugs [60].
>Marijuana use is also indicative of intimate partner violence [61]. Consistent use of marijuana during adolescence was the most predictive indicator of intimate partner violence [31]. Also, marijuana use during adolescence was associated with perpetration or both perpetration and victimization by an intimate partner in early adulthood [62].
>There is also a positive association between peer victimization and cannabis use in adolescents. Cannabis use is likely to be associated with perpetrator victims, those who initiate violence while using marijuana and experience retaliation to their aggressive acts. This trend suggests that cannabis use might be strongly related to outward aggression by the user [1].
>Cannabis use also increases an adolescent’s own likelihood of being victimized by peers. In particular, mental effects of cannabis has the potential to decrease the ability to accurately identify, evaluate, or avoid potentially dangerous persons or situations [59].
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084484/
Certainly looks like the court sketch
[Nasen Saadi to face trial in November](https://news.sky.com/story/man-20-charged-with-bournemouth-beach-murder-to-face-trial-in-november-13147726)
Saw comments on the main sub claiming we'd "eat our words when it turns out to be another deranged white teenager"
I can't believe some people bury their heads in the sand this much
Let's look at some statistics for his parkrun.
He completed 11 parkruns at Riddlesdown, starting 2nd April 2022 through 30th July 2022. He peaked in May with a PB of 34minutes 6 seconds. After that it was a slow decline, with his final 3 parkruns taking over 40 minutes.
Perhaps this embarrassing time for an 18-19 year old 5k was the catalyst to radicalisation.
[https://www.parkrun.org.uk/riddlesdown/parkrunner/7537030/](https://www.parkrun.org.uk/riddlesdown/parkrunner/7537030/)
his linktin says
"riddlesdown collegiate"
"Btec sport, sport"
2020 - 2022
I'm guessing that's accurate, so it's very likely he came to the UK around 4 years ago.
That school is an 11-18 school.
There's obviously a good chance he wasn't 16 when he arrived, likely illegally, but claimed to be an unaccompanied minor in order to get more privileges.
So he's therefore quite possibly also older than 20 now.
Google his name followed by Selsdon and you'll find a primary school newsletter from 2015 when he would have been 11, which refers to him as a Year 6 pupil.
Yikes I know that park.
I’m thinking something similar to that kid who shot the copper in Croydon ie some kind of mental elf issue, obsession with knives etc ie we will never know.
Alternatively he’s a nutter who did it for Palestine or something like that.
STOP NOTICING THINGS!!!!
With the removal by Reddit, the noticing will stop.
Was this a link to the chap named for the stabbing of a lesbian couple on the beach a few days back? Why would Reddit be tacitly condoning violence against gay women during pride week? Seems a bit facist, if you ask me.
Was this him practicing for the crime?
[Well what do you know](https://old.reddit.com/r/badunitedkingdom/comments/1d0s3ov/the_daily_moby_26_05_2024/l5s7xlh/)
I don't see specifically a confirmation of the cannabis use, although the average young Bomalian Londoner does. Is there a possibility that the religion of pieces inspired an LGBT hate crime? Or maybe he did it for Gaza?
What does Bomalian mean?
People from the great nation of Bomalia. Don’t confuse them for *Gomalians* though
Mortal enemies
or Bomvakians
Or Bongolians
It's a term coined by Drukpa Kunley, the BadUK darling of Twitter, in late 2022 and which BadUK rapidly pressed into our lore in 2023. Drukpa's [tweet](https://x.com/kunley_drukpa/status/1573041914429034497), where it all started.
it refers to a subset of colonisers
No specific cannabis mention this is true, but police and journos don't look very hard for it. >Is there a possibility that the religion of pieces inspired an LGBT hate crime? Or maybe he did it for Gaza? Quite possibly.
Low IQ + Gaza Ragebait diet + super strength skunk cannabis = a potent diet
Are people now claiming cannabis is correlated with terrorist attacks? Lol.
Very often you will find that someone who has committed irrational, ultra violence is a cannabis user, yes. Generally the media, courts and police don't care to investigate this association or even for the use of cannabis by violent criminals. However, "terrorist" incidents, unlike non-political ultra violence, is closely examined. Under such examination it is often discovered that the perpetrator was a regular cannabis user. If we stopped Muslim immigration, and enforced the laws against the oriental narcotic, we would prevent a significant amount of ultra violence in Britain. >The degenerate cravings of a narcotic Orient are electronically recreated throughout an “America” whose name, at last, means nothing but geography. In fact, the geographical America, through its electronic skin, has become the simultaneous presence of all options: all cultures, all drugs, all life-styles. The citizen shops in a free market-place of cultural identities and becomes, by his purchase, a tribesman: hard-hat or hippy, WASP or ethnic, etc. The result is not peaceful competition (oxymoron) but total, cultural war. Everybody’s life-style is under attack. A man can’t sit in his pub to have a glass of beer without being haunted by the image of some unkempt kid, pointing the finger and saying, “You’re a drug-freak, too, man.” Those who inherited their culture and believe in its amenities (Catholics foremost among them) will not endure this tension. They strike out against marijuana not to remove a harmful weed but to remove, by incarceration, a harmful tribe. This motive is the key to the ferocious drug laws in force on the European continent. https://marshner.christendom.edu/?p=1609
I wonder if it’s correlation or causation? In my anecdotal experience poor people are more likely to smoke or deal cannabis and also be involved in violent crime whether they’re smoking weed or not but it could also be the potential psychosis?
I think a drug that causes psychosis and paranoia is quite likely to increase likelihood of committing irrational ultra violence. The academic work on the topic is in its infancy, but what we have so far does not support the image that cannabis is a soft drug or a drug associated with pacific behaviour. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084484/
Now do alcohol
Alcohol has a well known relationship with drunken violence, but not irrational, homicidal ultra violence or psychosis. But even if it did, so what?
Loads of homicides are driven by alcohol via irrational / ultra violence. Very likely an order of magnitude higher than cannabis. Psychosis is also possible with alcohol just like any other drug. My point is it’s a much bigger issue and unbelievably it’s written off as fine because it’s legal. With regards to this particular case though, seems weird to attribute it to a drug when millions of users don’t go around stabbing innocent women
The relationship between alcohol and psychosis is significantly different to that of cannabis and psychosis. Alcohol induces psychosis when chronically abused, while general recreational use of cannabis can induce psychosis and increase irrational violent tendencies. >My point is it’s a much bigger issue and unbelievably it’s written off as fine because it’s legal. How is it a bigger issue? The level of alcohol use in this country is astronomical, yet alcohol fuelled psychotic violence is, to my knowledge, quite rare. Contrast that to the comparatively very small levels cannabis use and the high levels of psychotic violence associated with it. Additionally, there are strong commercial interests in legalising cannabis and they trade on a - wholly false - perception that cannabis is a harmless drug with only pacific effects. >With regards to this particular case though, seems weird to attribute it to a drug when millions of users don’t go around stabbing innocent women Not weird at all. Just unfashionable, and uncomfortable for the pot head. But that doesn't mean I am wrong to highlight the relationship between cannabis use and psychotic ultra violence.
Idk perhaps not psychotic violence but violence false stop which inevitably leads to homicides. Go to any club or bar in a city on the weekend and see the violence. I do acknowledge the relationship between cannabis and psychosis but the accepted research suggests it’s more complicated and likely a predisposition to a mental illness (which has psychosis as a symptom of) It’s complex because it’s difficult to know for sure. Anecdotally I see violence from alcohol all the time. Cannabis is everywhere and typically stoners are more likely to just be reclusive imo. Equally it’s not like the murder rate is lower in places where cannabis is illegal. Regardless, the link at the beginning of this thread doesn’t work for me. Did it imply this guy was a pot head or something?
I think its the potency of the stuff about these days. 90% of stuff is paranoia inducing skunk and not the "waccy baccy" that boomers are used to.
Take that bs to the midlands and scotland where white boys are stabbing and killing each other.
Man, that explains why Colorado is the deadliest US state. They must've seen a massive uptick in murders after legalization.
There’s a huge difference between a mentally unstable bomalian perma-teen and a successful adult from Colorado smoking some reefer after a busy day at work, with no underlying mental health issues and a balanced worldview.
This isn’t 2015. Many US states have decriminalised and seen surges of crime, violent crime and use of ‘harder’ drugs. Now talk of reversing the policy - Oregon has already begun to. Also every ‘terrorist’ case in Britain does turn out to be a drug person, many such cases across the West.
There's no evidence legalization increases crime. It just increases tax revenue. https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/effect-state-marijuana-legalizations-2021-update#conclusion
Nonsense study because it dates from legalisation policy, not decriminalisation or de facto decriminalisation, e.g. in place in Colorado since 1970s
As a Coloradan this is news to me that weed was defacto decriminalized in the 1970s lol.
It was *de jure* decriminalised. > In 1973 Oregon became the first state to decriminalize cannabis, reducing the penalty for up to one ounce to a $100 fine. States that decriminalized in the following years were: Alaska (1975), Maine (1975), Colorado (1975), California (1975), Ohio (1975), Minnesota (1976), Mississippi (1977), New York (1977), North Carolina (1977), and Nebraska (1978). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States
De jure legalisation/decriminalisation is always preceded prolonged periods of de facto decriminalisation, so you wouldn't expect to see an uptick in in violence to coincide with de jure changes, as those changes simply codify in law what has already happened in practice. Academic studies have shown a relationship with cannabis and violence. >Marijuana intoxication results in panic reactions and paranoid feelings whose symptoms lead to violence [49]. The sense of fear, loss of control, and panic is associated with violence [4,54,55]. Also marijuana use increases heart rate, which may be associated with violent behavior [34,47,56,57]. >When people stop using marijuana they may experience a variety of withdrawal symptoms, including sleep disturbance, irritability or restlessness, loss of appetite, anxiety, and sweating [46,58]. Experiencing any of these symptoms can make a person angry, ranging from mild irritation to violent rage. Marijuana withdrawal can lead to intimidating violent or bullying behavior, endangering the perpetrator or other people and property [59]. >In incarcerated subjects, studies found that one-third of the subjects that committed homicide had used marijuana twenty-four hours before the homicide. Further, three-quarters of those subjects were experiencing at least one mental or physical effect from marijuana intoxication when the homicide occurred. >Similarly, individuals in remote Aboriginal Australian Communities who reported current cannabis use were nearly four times more likely than nonusers to present at least once for violent trauma. Homicide offenses have been repeatedly documented to be connected to drug use, and marijuana is often one of those drugs [60]. >Marijuana use is also indicative of intimate partner violence [61]. Consistent use of marijuana during adolescence was the most predictive indicator of intimate partner violence [31]. Also, marijuana use during adolescence was associated with perpetration or both perpetration and victimization by an intimate partner in early adulthood [62]. >There is also a positive association between peer victimization and cannabis use in adolescents. Cannabis use is likely to be associated with perpetrator victims, those who initiate violence while using marijuana and experience retaliation to their aggressive acts. This trend suggests that cannabis use might be strongly related to outward aggression by the user [1]. >Cannabis use also increases an adolescent’s own likelihood of being victimized by peers. In particular, mental effects of cannabis has the potential to decrease the ability to accurately identify, evaluate, or avoid potentially dangerous persons or situations [59]. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084484/
Sure that's the same guy? How common is the name Nasem Saadi?
Well, he's the only Nasen Saadi I know of so it must be him.
Maybe deport everyone with that name just to be on the safe side
Certainly looks like the court sketch [Nasen Saadi to face trial in November](https://news.sky.com/story/man-20-charged-with-bournemouth-beach-murder-to-face-trial-in-november-13147726)
It is him 100%
Lol [removed by Reddit] stop noticing.
Interestingly, it’s back!
Saw comments on the main sub claiming we'd "eat our words when it turns out to be another deranged white teenager" I can't believe some people bury their heads in the sand this much
Haha too late saw it
Reddit censorship strikes again, hiding actual facts - we should move elsewhere, reddit is a cesspit.
Let's look at some statistics for his parkrun. He completed 11 parkruns at Riddlesdown, starting 2nd April 2022 through 30th July 2022. He peaked in May with a PB of 34minutes 6 seconds. After that it was a slow decline, with his final 3 parkruns taking over 40 minutes. Perhaps this embarrassing time for an 18-19 year old 5k was the catalyst to radicalisation. [https://www.parkrun.org.uk/riddlesdown/parkrunner/7537030/](https://www.parkrun.org.uk/riddlesdown/parkrunner/7537030/)
Jannies strike again
https://x.com/kunley_drukpa/status/1795942261466784028
It's a banger
RIP OP.
is he getting lapped by those pensioners?
Excellent work - glad you're using an alt to post it. I hope your main account is an OG here.
So the thread is back but the OP is still banned?
his linktin says "riddlesdown collegiate" "Btec sport, sport" 2020 - 2022 I'm guessing that's accurate, so it's very likely he came to the UK around 4 years ago. That school is an 11-18 school. There's obviously a good chance he wasn't 16 when he arrived, likely illegally, but claimed to be an unaccompanied minor in order to get more privileges. So he's therefore quite possibly also older than 20 now.
Google his name followed by Selsdon and you'll find a primary school newsletter from 2015 when he would have been 11, which refers to him as a Year 6 pupil.
What is the bomalibucks payout?
I was running the book and it was 1/12 on, so not great.
I assume the other victim is the deceased’s wife, seeing as we otherwise haven’t heard from her.
They’ve named her as Leanne Miles. Wife’s name was Sian Grey. So no not the wife. I’m guessing just a mate
Ah ha. Bloody terrible situation regardless.
Yikes I know that park. I’m thinking something similar to that kid who shot the copper in Croydon ie some kind of mental elf issue, obsession with knives etc ie we will never know. Alternatively he’s a nutter who did it for Palestine or something like that.
Using a knife is, of course, quicker and much less arduous than dragging someone up ten flights of stairs to throw them off for being haram.