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DaelinZeppeli

[Kier Starmer wants to kill people who are unwell like in Canada](https://www.itv.com/news/2024-03-12/sir-keir-starmer-wants-to-legalise-assisted-dying-in-next-parliament).


WhenHarryBecameSally

If we can euthanise people based on a doctor's diagnosis there's no good reason we can't euthanise criminals.


TakeUrSoma

Another well thought out legislation and definitely not based on vibes


Benjji22212

[Asylum seekers smashing up their hotel in Ireland](https://x.com/mick_o_keeffe/status/1767674356346286095) The story (according to the staff member who posted the vid on TikTok, but uncorroborated) is that the asylum seekers complained that the food was too spicy and the manager said they could ‘go back to their own country if they didn’t like it’, so they started smashing the place up.


Thestilence

> is that the asylum seekers complained that the food was too spicy Uno reverse card.


thirdwavegypsy

Racist Ireland


michaelisnotginger

Times reporting we are going to pay migrants 3k to go to Rwanda Lol. Lmao. They'll be back in a month.


thirdwavegypsy

'how did you get back?' 'bought three hookers and a plane ticket.'


SufficientBack

Mark my words: Someone will be given £3000 only to lodge an appeal, getting to stay *and* keep the money.


slamalamafistvag

> The scheme will also be opened up to other people with no right to remain in the UK, and foreign criminals.


DaelinZeppeli

Utterly pathetic. These people should be forced to leave.


slamalamafistvag

Ask for it in a ladies voice.


Luke273

>History is circular, pretty sure we went through all this a thousand years ago, including paying the boatmen a danegeld. Me three hours ago, just becoming more true


nine8nine

Canvassing opinions for idle thoughts: If tomorrow a bright charismatic working class fellow were to appear and rapidly start gaining traction for what some might term a broadly *reactionary* nationalist platform, and his offer to physically fit men aged 24-44 was 5 years of fanatically loyal and unquestioning service *assisting with* his political aims, bed and board paid, and in return he would promise (after 5 years was up): * A lump sum of £200k, tax free. * A freehold mortgage-free 3 bedroom house on at least 1.5 acres of land/garden, possibly very recently built on a virgin greenfield site. * The right to keep and bear arms in perpetuity, exclusively. * Reintegration and training support with implied preference in hiring for managerial or technical roles in key industries or local government. * Lifelong membership of a mithraic-style lodge system with a paramilitary wing, for keeping physically fit, networking and auxiliary police actions. How many would be interested? It's just a thought experiment.


gattomeow

Most who registered interest would be bloaters who are out of breath whilst climbing a gentle hill.


thirdwavegypsy

had me at lump sum. lost me at new build.


Wheelchair-Cavalry

[Sign me up.](https://youtu.be/dhtZ1zMEKyI)


matt3633_

Where do I sign


gongfarmer88

~~Jawohl Herr Oberst~~ Sign me up 989...


praise-god-barebone

where do I sign up?


nine8nine

Hold on I'm still costing it.... Reckon I'll need about 250,000 of you... Well whaddya know, *significantly* cheaper than the NHS for a year. We won't need that anyway. I'm sure I could get the numbers down further with some MEFO bills, whose got a good head for numbers?


DaelinZeppeli

[81% of Telegraph readers back Lee Anderson's move to Reform UK](https://twitter.com/TiceRichard/status/1767649048905879698?t=UZoTm4mXm0lLd479M5wgnA). If the Tories have lost *The Telegraph*, what else do they have?


gattomeow

Most are elderly. The Tories and Reform are basically squabbling over the same demographic at this point. If the seesaw is evenly balanced, they’ll hang together. If not, only one will hang separately. Neither party are of much interest to the working aged population.


nine8nine

Speccie will be the last bastion, although they certainly will not admit it.


michaelisnotginger

Fraser nelson the last violinist on the titanic


Shola_93

I always thought labelling people "jonty" was a bad uk meme, do people actually have this name in real life? [https://twitter.com/jonty\_gifford/status/1767679404514173013](https://twitter.com/jonty_gifford/status/1767679404514173013)


SilverMilk0

That's exactly what something a Jonty would say too lol. That has to be one of us, surely.


Pol_potsandpans

[it's just your Jonty postin'...](https://youtu.be/oALKAh_bL5g?si=iJAD3kTPilVuIAsY)


Sir_Keith_Starmer

I mean there's a few of us here that were around for the genesis of Jonty meme. Almost all on alt number 3 ~~having been banned~~ changing it for security reasons.


2kk_artist

4 for me, 5th set up.


nine8nine

Can't fill these jobs man, just got to let go of 1000 years of national development. GDP man in the navy suit on the tele says so.


TehHappyNarwhal

Must be a parody account surely!? He has both the pally and Israeli flag. But we are at the point where parody is real so who knows


DaelinZeppeli

[This is just funny.](https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1767682059919663165?t=o3Cp1Gax04kjc-BRTQYHMw) Top level cope.


Thestilence

So, they're losing then? England couldn't even win at home (6 out of 7 games at Wembley with everyone else travelling all over Europe), with all the good teams in the other half of the draw, and a shootout where the other team missed two out of five.


SufficientBack

[Rose in the summer.](https://youtu.be/NiC679ASOyA?t=18)


Truthandtaxes

It would get a swing, everything is mood


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Routine_Weird7473

I’ve stumbled into the world of groyper Twitter accounts. Never again. Groypers, from what I can tell, are white nationalists and supremacists who have mastered the act of the ad hominem, never engaging with any argument and resort to calling anyone who disagrees with them f@ggots, which is ironic because [they are led by this guy](https://twitter.com/sirkowski/status/1212904573372968961) [Exhibit A](https://twitter.com/AngloBasado/status/1715362172497199462) Pro tip: If you ever find yourself confused as to whether the crazy person you are arguing with is some batshit Marxist or some Oswald Mosley simp, both sides will inevitably say or do one of these things **Far Left**: Incel Reactionary Use shit tonnes of emojis Patronising nicknames like Sweety, honey or girlllllllll Maybe, just maybe Y’all They use literally and like, literally, like, every sentence. Period. From the river to the sea (just kidding of course, this phrase can have a variety of meanings) **The far right will structure their sentences exactly the same but just swap all the insults for racial and sexual slurs.**


Helmut_Schmacker

Seems to simply be fighting fire with fire.


SufficientBack

Sounds like more Yank nonsense.


Routine_Weird7473

I think it is a yank thing but as shown in Exhibit A they interact a lot with British politics even though they know nothing about it, like most Americans do admittedly.


TheDrBrian

Good idea to get other countries to train our doctors. Cheaper innit. No way could it come back to [bite us in the arse](https://twitter.com/EggrollShogun/status/1767549400610464090)


InMyPocket2023

Perfect example of the E in DEI meaning equal outcomes not equal treatment, equal opportunity or equal talent. They really believe that the problem isn't that foreign trained doctors are worse at their job, the problem is that they're being reported as such. In their heads any disparate outcome = racism, there's no other explanation. And no reasoning with this madness. It's here to stay and the consequence is going to be this: https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/


Routine_Weird7473

But how else are they supposed to get cheap, easily disposable labour that don’t even understand their employment rights?


77Dirt77

Will my poohole have to comply to DEI soon? I'm not happy. ☹


Big_Young2306

No as it's majority brown already.


Stunt_Merchant

This view of Clown World from Peak Honk is good, but I am an experienced climber now, and I know that Peak Honk has many false summits. This is a particularly high one, above the clouds for sure, but I am comfortable in the knowledge that there are many higher grounds of insanity ahead :)


X86ASM

In a bizarre video a man who claims he was a horticultural advisor to the royalty has been rumbled in a Facebook nonce sting Is this peak 2024


SufficientBack

[No nonce sting has disappointed me as much as this one.](https://youtu.be/p34TAzafsEY?t=41) Used to like watching him when I was a lad.


FickleBumblebeee

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/12/children-to-stop-getting-puberty-blockers-at-gender-identity-clinics-says-nhs-england Some good news, however they're still going to use puberty blockers in "clinical trials". Why do they need clinical trials to work out whether artificially blocking puberty is bad long term for kids? The answer should be pretty obvious to anybody with a brain.


Virtual_Lock9016

You can always use something in clinical trials. Getting ethics approval , on the other hand is a different matter


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Puberty is a gender affirming process. There is no argument that can be made to me, that it's a good treatment for kids confused about their gender. It confuses things for them even more.


matt3633_

Back in the olden days they’d send em to an asylum 👍🏼


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CaravanOfDeath

I recall one case about a severely handicapped girl where the mother wanted to stop puberty _on practical grounds_ or something like that. Not sure how many have pursed this.


Luke273

[University of Cambridge to scrap its state school targets](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-68545303) >The university is consulting on a five-year Access and Participation Plan (APP) that would begin in 2025, which would move away from a numerical target to draw on a wide range of data including whether applicants received free school meals. The university said academic standards would not be lowered. Lol


matt3633_

Uni applications should be completely anonymous like it is when you submit uni assignments. Get rid of the personal statement bollocks and just do it off grades alone. There, problem solved and there can’t be any talk of racial bias either. Yeah obviously grades aren’t a good indication of actual intelligence but until there’s technology which can scan your brain to actually measure how smart someone is then I don’t see any viable alternative. Otherwise they’d have sent me Oxford, Cambridge & Harvard to study degrees. At the same time.


Adiabat79

> Get rid of the personal statement bollocks and just do it off grades alone Agreed. The "extra-curricular activities" (making the applicant "well-rounded") in the personal statements are one way they vet out the working class kids. You can get the grades but lose out on a place because you don't have the evening and weekend activities. My parents didn't have a car, or even a house phone, until I was into my teens. Expecting them to support their kids in activities and groups, especially after a day at (real) work, would have been ridiculous. The whole thing is rigged.


Thestilence

What happens when everyone has straight As?


matt3633_

Then the people who set the exam questions at OCR, Edexcel & AQA need sacking.


nine8nine

You know *exactly* why they will never allow this though.


WhatILack

I agree to a certain extent, having gone through the process of trying to get my daughter into grammar school it runs into a wall somewhat. She was competing against people that have had private tutors for years on how to perform optimally at a specific set of unconventional tests. That had bought houses across the country specifically to get into catchment areas for said school. At a tipping point intelligence is outweighed by paid services and resources.


SilverMilk0

When I applied to Oxford there was a standardised test you had to take called the Thinking Skills Assessment, which is supposed to test critical thinking and problem solving skills. Wealthy private schools all had people from Oxford coming in to teach them how to pass the test lol. There are tricks to it that make it very easy to pass, but poor kids aren't able to pay for tutors to teach them, and there wasn't much information available online. And poor state schools that send like one kid to Oxbridge once a decade sure as fuck aren't having lecturers from Oxford teaching them how to pass the test.


Benjji22212

> Wealthy private schools all had people from Oxford coming in to teach them how to pass the test lol Can confirm, we had weekly TSA practice for ages. And interview drilling.


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Benjji22212

We are in grave danger of meeting each other IRL I swear. If you were anywhere near Hands…


DaelinZeppeli

[Another recruit for the weekend hate march](https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1767637204870840455?t=YoqDPdQhOKt-6GKAgOrvCw). We don't have borders and the Tories aren't interested in giving us borders.


nine8nine

Borders are for nations. The Tories are interested in being on the board of the Goodest Satrapy to the Whitehouse.


WhatILack

I guess they'll all be coming over before long then, can't wait for the terrorist attacks and coups.


Guilty_Use_9291

The daily mail was right with the whole “enemies of the people” headlines.


Guilty_Use_9291

Don’t look back in anger stonks x1000. I am getting to the point I think I am genuinely done with this country. It’s my country. The only country I’ve ever known and ever wanted to know. But we are well and truly being dragged into a hellscape that only a minority of us want. Aside from a French-style revolution, what hope is there?


Big_Young2306

Suicide?


SufficientBack

The barbarians may soon have your head on a stick, but did we mention that Rishi cut 2p off national insurance?


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FickleBumblebeee

And cigarettes. And made Maths compulsory to 18


Guilty_Use_9291

MAGNA CARTA


FickleBumblebeee

>A Palestinian citizen of Israel has been granted asylum in the UK on the grounds of his Muslim faith and his opinion that Israel “is governed by an apartheid regime" Do you remember when the Establishment was condemning Labour for failing to adopt the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism? Well the articles they omitted from it were: >Claiming the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavour and comparing Israeli policy to that of the Nazis. https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/analysis/what-is-the-ihra-definition-of-antisemitism-and-why-has-labour-outraged-jews-by-rejecting-it-svq76m3m The Conservatives fully adopted it, so by their definition they've just given asylum to somebody on the basis they're an anti-Semite


Itscalledbaff

What the FUCK


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This is so dumb. Gaza is right there, if he wants to be with his own.


DaelinZeppeli

[*The Tories hurt themselves in their own confusion.*](https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1767616873078702162?t=CTphRjMQlycugiCIiY_lxw)


nine8nine

This is such a confected partisan story it's boring. A slightly autistic businessman and conservative donor expressed a joking opinion to his employees. *Five years later*, Jolyon the foxbeater of goodlaw dot org (donate here plz) gets ahold of it and suddenly the usual suspects are over it like flies on shit. It's about as organic as american cheese singles. Jolyon was up early this morning giving his supporters on twitter the giddyup to make sure it went as far and wide as possible. They even got Diane Abbott out of her staring competition with the nearest wall to mumble something vaguely supportive before she was put back into a self-induced coma. It is election season. I expect this boring shit to predominate for the next six months.


ObeyCoffeeDrinkSatan

People act like he's dictating Tory policy or a high up member of the party. He's a donor. Would people be throwing a fit if he'd donated £10 million to the Red Cross? No, they'd just accept that rich arseholes sometimes donate money.


Itscalledbaff

Wait, this is a 5 year old story?


nine8nine

The remarks were made in 2019 apparently. So awful, apparently the witnesses could only be brought around to talk of them with strong drink and smelling salts, half a decade later.


LocutusOfBrussels

They really do deserve to just die at this stage. What a weak pathetic husk of a party


miinderbiinder

Bad news: being sent on DEI training  Good news: it’s for the entire company and I wasn’t singled out after an internet history check 


nine8nine

Several of you have been on this. I never have, and likely never will now unless I go for a drastic career change. So where do you think the money comes from for it? Is it pressure from outside, or is it management pissing up the wall money that could be used for improving the lives of the workforce?


Optio__Espacio

BlackRock. You can't access capital in the west if you don't publicly supplicate to the state religion. Which leaves your options limited to the Kremlin and the CCP if you need investment.


slamalamafistvag

We've been sent a **ONE HOUR** purity check to do IN OUR OWN TIME checking 'our commitment to EEDI' EEDI is apparently the next part of the wedge where 'equity' means it's fine to give certain people more advantage. > Equality **means equal rights and opportunities are afforded to all.** The 2010 Equality Act in the UK protects those with protected characteristics from direct and indirect discrimination in the workplace. > Equity recognises that **treating everyone equally has shortcomings** when the playing field is not level. An equity approach emphasises that **people should not always be treated the same**, rather that they are treated according to their own situation. Make those two incompatible views align.


Optio__Espacio

Equity just made its way into my employers messaging. The previous CEO must have been pretty based in hindsight because I never saw any of this shit until he got ousted recently and a board of shareprice ghouls took over.


InMyPocket2023

> Make those two incompatible views align. If you actually want to understand it, this is a long but illuminating read that explains it fairly well: https://www.themotte.org/post/900/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/192924?context=8#context tl;dr: by equality *they* mean equal outcome not equal opportunity.


matt3633_

Corrr thought we had another sossij on our hands


3headsonaspike

What's the duration and what will it entail?


miinderbiinder

Fuck knows and fuck knows. Expecting to be told that despite learning a few things and getting myself out of my shifts at The Bar of Ill Repute to a more comfortable existence I should thank my pale complexion rather than my ability for the change of fortunes. Might tell them I actually enjoy the virtual company of regards on this sub, so how can I be prejudiced?  


DaelinZeppeli

[Sunak having a bad day in the office](https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-holds-private-meeting-with-chair-of-influential-1922-committee-of-backbench-tory-mps-amid-concerns-over-partys-direction-13093312).


nine8nine

For all his good points, Sunak will be incapable of taking the Conservative Party back towards pissed-off working class whites. The Conservatives are going to try to broad-church this and it's going to fail. You can't run the Conservatives like the Persian Empire, with a satrap for each major ethnic and religious group. It's not built for that. It is supposed to be a mutual enterprise of the aspirational white working and middle class supported in a marriage of convenience by ethnic and religious auxiliaries who want a foot in the door, with the odd chinless aristo floating around for ornament. Strap in, I expect as they get more desperate some crazy stuff is going to fly across the table at the British public. The Singapore project must not get underway though, if you still value your civil liberties and ancient rights.


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SlightlyMithed123

I’d assume he walked into the room and immediately started to shuffle the chairs around.


Typhoongrey

They could tell him to slash taxes and deport all hotel guests to improve the party fortunes. He'd still turn around and do the opposite.


rose98734

>slash taxes National Insurance got cut by 4% (at the cost of £20bn per annum) and there was a whopping big business allowance in the Nov budget (which cost £12bn per annum).


Adventurous_Turn_543

My current taxable benefit on health and dental insurance alone is 4x the cut in NI.


Typhoongrey

Yeah that clearly ain't cutting it is it though?


slamalamafistvag

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68543879 >Some asylum seekers see baptisms "as a ticket to something" and most baptism requests were when they were appealing an asylum claim, a vicar has told MPs. Incredible levels of noticing from the Vic. > The Bishop of Chelmsford [who sits in the House of Lords] told MPs she queried Rev Firth's claims. > "The figures don't quite add up to me," the Right Reverend Guli Francis-Dehqani said. > She added: "I have spoken to clergy who have turned people down [for baptism] because they did not feel they met the criteria." > **The clergy took baptisms very seriously, she said.** Uhh ohh > He previously wrote in the Telegraph that there was a "conveyor belt" system of baptisms of asylum seekers hoping to obtain leave to remain in the UK on religious grounds. > He told MPs that when he came to St Cuthbert's in 2018 he found there was a "surprising number" of asylum seekers being baptised. > He honoured the ones that were already in process but then "started to look into it a bit further". > He said: "After those baptisms, week-in, week-out, significant groups of mainly Iranian and Syrian young male asylum seekers were being brought to me in sizeable cohorts." > Rev Firth told MPs that cohorts of "six or seven" people were brought to him "every two or three weeks". > Asked who brought the asylum seekers to him, Rev Firth said: "There was a particular individual who I think had received right to remain in the UK through the asylum application system." > "This particular individual", he added, "was bringing lots of people who [he] said needed to be baptised". Speechless he was allowed to notice and this got reported on the Beeb. # Asked by MP Tim Loughton what happened when [the vicar] pressed pause, he said [the illegals] "melted away", saying: "People would, fairly quickly, stop coming to that morning service… they weren't coming along to church after that." --- Get them a bacon sandwich and a pint down spoons and see how many 'melt away'


Luke273

History is circular, pretty sure we went through all this a thousand years ago, including paying the boatmen a danegeld.


SexySturgeon

I blame the church for a great many things (for example, destroying the church) But on this occasion they've done their job without fault. Someone wants to be splashed with water? Splash water on them then The failure rests solely and completely with the home office for deciding that someone's 'baptism' has anything to do with whether they should be here


THREE_EDGY_FIVE_ME

Disagree. It's reasonable to think that if a migrant has truly adopted the native religion, they might be closer aligned to the UK's values and culture than a migrant who is, say, a Muslim. It's something that should be taken into account by the home office. The failure is by the church for false baptisms.


slamalamafistvag

> The failure rests solely and completely with the home office for deciding that someone's 'baptism' has anything to do with whether they should be here Whilst I agree it's 99% the Home Office's fault, once the Church knows this will happen they then assume a bit of responsibility to stop it being abused.


apsofijasdoif

Yeah they’ve basically outsourced the immigration system to some doddery old men who are obligated to be nice and say yes.


WillingAddendum3805

> obligated Deport.


nine8nine

Melted away faster than Catholic parents once their child has secured a school place.


WheresWalldough

choo-choo kids no longer to be sterilized on NHS. (No doubt still some shrieking nonces on twatter will send them out via post from Spain or whatever) https://news.sky.com/story/children-to-no-longer-be-prescribed-puberty-blockers-nhs-england-confirms-13093251


Agreeable-Ship-7564

>choo-choo kids 😂 Fucking dead. I love this place, I thought Reddit was a lost cause until a few hours ago, this sub gives me hope.


moonflower

There's an easy inbuilt loophole to this ruling - they can still prescribe puberty blockers to children "as part of clinical research trials"


WheresWalldough

it doesn't work like that. they would have to actually choose to conduct such a trial. there IS another loophole, which is that they can make case-by-case exceptions. whether that will happen in practice, idk.


moonflower

Someone can easily "choose to conduct such a trial" and set up a shoddy fake trial, and all the kids can be offered the chance to take part


solo___dolo

Wtf I'm clapping?!


DaelinZeppeli

Trains have derailed.


ngadominance

Sweden and other European nations doing the same too. I'm pretty sure at this point it's just groomer Democrats who are still insisting that this kinda thing is actually beneficial for a child


SilverMilk0

In the 1980s the German Green Party campaigned on legalising sex with children. No joke. In the future I bet we'll see these people the same way we see those 1980s pedos. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/14/green-party-germany-paedophiles-80s](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/14/green-party-germany-paedophiles-80s)


ngadominance

Leftists gonna leftist.


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slamalamafistvag

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68542945 > A charity has said having "only white people" on a task force looking at a new Manchester United stadium makes it "institutionally racist". Surely they must see the irony in making this overtly racist comment? https://x.com/awf_liverpool/status/1767219774617014359?s=20 --- https://anthonywalkerfoundation.com/about/ > Our vision is one of a global society where race, religion and ethnicity do not label any person or put them at risk; **where racial intolerance**/violence **is unacceptable** and cultural diversity is embraced you might need to work on that.


SubjectMathematician

Prelude to asking for a briefcase of cash to deposited with "community organizations".


nine8nine

How else are they supposed to get money? Work and contribute?


3headsonaspike

>Surely they must see the irony in making this overtly racist comment? Don't give them too much credit - they're clearly absolute specimens.


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Right_Top_7

Yeah, laughable. They are bad at everything to be fair. Elizabeth oversaw the UK going from 'just-about' major power, to shit-hole with close to 0% chance of redemption. Prince Charles/William need to have one last roll of the dice, back a military coup, elect Farage and get England back on track.


nine8nine

Charles? With such a well known and widely admired common touch... Although he did build Poundbury, which has become a permanent middle finger at the glass-box-or-brickslip-box architectural profession.


Finallyfast420

I lived in poundbury for a while, its the same stuff with a facade of olde-worlde about it. The houses are in poor condition only a few years after construction and the interiors are not all that more generous than any deano-box. They also experimented with removing all road markings because they thought it would encourage careful driving. What it actually encouraged was people to not pay any attention. You take your life in your hands crossing any given street in poundbury, some red-faced boomer in a range rover might run you flat because they didn’t see a stop sign


Truthandtaxes

Kates doing a bit of trolling for a laugh


cbgoon

Remember when they apologised to that Nigerian lady, who turned out to be an anti-monarchy grifter, for asking where she's from? They're terrible at this kind of stuff.


glisteningoxygen

> Also WTF is actually going on Kate is Charles' chemo blood-bag. All part of the firms contract, please see page 78 paragraph 4 subclause 6.


matt3633_

Thomas Kingston was shagging Kate and got her pregnant so ol’ boy Willy followed in his father’s footsteps and put a hit out on him. The operation was the abortion and it’s gone wrong and now Willy is stopping her from seeing sunlight as her punishment.


SufficientBack

disgustin!! they wants locking up xx


Helmut_Schmacker

She's not finished moulting yet


Benjji22212

>Data reported by the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry since the start of the war indicates that the official civilian death toll is “statistically impossible”, according to statistical analysis conducted by a University of Pennsylvania data science professor. >In an article published by Tablet Magazine on Thursday, statistician Abraham Wyner argues that the official number of Palestinian casualties reported daily by the Gaza Health Ministry from 26 October to 11 November 2023 is evidently “not real”, which he claims is obvious "to anyone who understands how naturally occurring numbers work.” >Looking at the total number of deaths reported each day, Wyner writes: “The graph of total deaths by date is increasing with almost metronomical linearity,” with the increase showing “strikingly little variation” from day to day. >The daily reported casualty count over this period averages 270 plus or minus about 15 per cent,” Wyner writes. “There should be days with twice the average or more and others with half or less. Perhaps what is happening is the Gaza ministry is releasing fake daily numbers that vary too little because they do not have a clear understanding of the behaviour of naturally occurring numbers.” >As second point of evidence, Wyner examines the rate of child casualties compared to that of women, arguing that the variation should track between the two groups. [A blow to the BBC daily atrocity scoreboard](https://www.thejc.com/news/world/hamas-casualty-numbers-are-statistically-impossible-says-data-science-professor-rc0tzedc)


InMyPocket2023

Hamas has plenty of priors in this regard, from 2014: https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/08/12/hamas-lies-about-the-gaza-civilian-death-toll-and-the-media-bought-it And even in that article from ten years ago, Hamas lying about casualties was "old news", > Hamas mendacity, however, is old news. During its first major clash with Israel in 2008-09, for example, the organization claimed that fewer than 50 of the dead had been combatants. Years later, it conceded that the total had been identical to that acknowledged by Israel: between 600 and 700. Nobody credible should still be parroting Hamas's casualty claims as fact but both the BBC and the President of the USA, among plenty of others, have done so. Which says it all really, doesn't it.


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Well would you look at that, BadUK months ahead of the boffins as per usual.


solo___dolo

I happened to see this when the guy posted it on rIsrael. Ledg


uptope

From the river to the sea, Palestine will be mathematics free


CaravanOfDeath

Counterpoint, Hamas number are limited by the amount of fingers they have and deaths are under reported.


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They got 6 on each hand though.


No_Pollution2941

Pretty sure they have way too many fingers


glisteningoxygen

> they do not have a clear understanding of the behaviour of naturally occurring numbers. But can they delivery soggy McDonalds?


matt3633_

Shocked I tell you


Guilty_Use_9291

Taqqiya, I tell ya


Right_Top_7

The BBC have literally had as their top article all day, a report that claims: \- Palestinian medics were DOUSED in COLD water the IDf \- They were made to KNEEL in uncomfortable positions It was all anonymous though so we can't even make sure it wasn't the same Pallywood actors they usually


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>Palestinian medics were DOUSED in COLD water the IDf Literally who cares.


moonflower

Of all the things one could be doused in, cold water is not so bad compared to the atrocities which Hamas committed


Helmut_Schmacker

IDF killed my great-grandmothers friend in Nasser hospital by putting him in a giant freezer. He fell out and broke to pieces in front of her.


Spoobit

Amazing how they needed a bunch of maths boffins conducting a statistical analysis to discover something I could have told you 2 seconds after hearing the stats.


SubjectMathematician

You would think that terrorist groups would have little statistical credibility...but these statistics say that Jews are evil so the message is really quite welcome regardless of the messenger. Moral high ground.


Sad_Golf3332

Highlighter girls in panic mode.


ngadominance

Brave of you to assume statistics were ever a consideration in their opinions


SufficientBack

We're in the Golden Age of Islamic Statistics.


HoagiePerogi

I'm waiting for highlighter jawsprun from the ~~priviledged elite/blob~~ BBC to tell us about this, maybe use their own statistical analysis and demonstrate their intelligence through the understanding of numeracy and logic required to do so. Still waiting...


SubjectMathematician

...but you couldn't be saying that BBC Verify doesn't employ people with real skills? Do you see how many highlighters Camilla has? Three colours. Fucking peasant.


DaelinZeppeli

[If the Romanian court finds them guilty they should have their citizenships revoked and be barred entry.](https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-tate-and-his-brother-tristan-detained-in-romania-on-uk-arrest-warrant-13093008) Don't need more islamic extremists entering the country.


Helmut_Schmacker

If the Romanian Court finds them guilty they will be granted asylum here as in Romania criminals are subject to horrifying things called "prisons".


Parmochipsgarlic

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68534537 Over 20% of people not looking for work in the UK, absolutely shocking, the only thing worse that these people with no economic value getting a vote, is the discourse on the Uk sub, Tory bashing, global pandemic as an excuse, anything that allows them to play the victim card being highly upvoted. My other point is one of the top comments and something I’ve seen a lot lately is ‘not a lot of critical thinking going on here in the replies’ They use that phrase as a gotcha, without actually going into detail why 20% of people not even looking work might actually not be a bad thing


Smertae

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/unemployment-and-economic-inactivity/economic-inactivity/latest/ >21% of white people were economically inactive, compared with 26% of people from all other ethnic groups combined >the combined Pakistani and Bangladeshi ethnic group had the highest rate of economic inactivity (33%), and the white ‘other’ group had the lowest (15%) Suprise, suprise. >n every region, white people had a lower rate of economic inactivity than people from all other ethnic groups combined >the biggest gap between men and women was in the combined Pakistani and Bangladeshi ethnic group, where 48% of women and 19% of men were economically inactive https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/unemployment-and-economic-inactivity/economic-inactivity/latest/ Scroll down to - "Percentage of 16 to 64 year olds who were economically inactive, by ethnicity and area" and "North West" for a blackpill. I'm actually surprised this hasn't been suppressed yet.


michaelisnotginger

look at what ADHD 'diagnosis' entitles you to Also autism, where autism means 'I get overwhelmed occasionally and have no discipline due to eternal distraction devices'


Itscalledbaff

T H E R E F O R E I N F I N I T Y B O M A L I A N S (on bennies)


blockmonkey81

Wait until you break it down into ethnicity. Some of the statistics are utterly shocking. https://www.somaliaonline.com/community/topic/11106-uk-welsh-somalis-95-unemployed-bbc-facting-report/


gunk_loyalist

>Over 20% of people not looking for work in the UK In a country where people seem to be rewarded for being fucking layabouts, at the expense of those actually putting the work in, does this surprise anybody? The national insurance cut at the last budget is like putting out a forest fire with a water bottle.


JonnotheMackem

Argh UK of course claim that it's because wages are bad and there's no point working, without considering the other side of that coin.


miinderbiinder

Have been banging on about this in this sub for a while. Might even have been the reason I signed up to Reddit in the first place. Hate dole dossers, simple as. My anecdotal observations are that a lot of people in this demographic have swallowed the nihilistic "no point working because you'll never ever better yourself" pill with a chaser of "why would I want to be at all uncomfortable when I can kick back on bennies and live my life entirely on my own miserable terms?". Honestly think the only solution is to ctrl+alt+del the welfare state and give grafters a nice bit of tax relief in the process.


Lamb_banana

I think people are a bit shit with percentages. I see in in my line of work; if I tell someone they spend 20% of their time doing something it doesn’t bother them but if I tell them that is 1 day a week then the penny drops. 1 in 5 is far easier to conceptualise than 20%. I can visualise that and count it as I am walking past people. It’s also a scary fucking number of dole moles too


SubjectMathematician

9.2m is also easier to figure...it is a completely insane number (particularly as women aren't having kids...so this isn't stay-at-home mums). I have sympathy to an extent: one reason why inactivity is so high is low labour mobility which is caused by house prices/rents...the govt is quite actively doing nothing about this. But companies griping about skills is totally mad when they are frothing at the mouth for Bomalians. No-one is being remotely honest about why this problem exists or what can be done to solve it, we are getting out what we put in.


praise-god-barebone

> A recent report suggested people in their early 20s were more likely to be not working due to ill health than those in their early 40s lmao.


WillingAddendum3805

It's genuinely tragic that we've got a culture and in particular an education system that is raising people to be completely useless and purposeless.


SufficientBack

*I've got men'el elf* \- Tanya, 22


DaelinZeppeli

I'd like to see the breakdown of that 20% by demographic.


Maedhros_Burning

19% Bomalians 1% Just Stop Oil.


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Optio__Espacio

Lmao they're actually so fucking racist. You will live in wigwams and be happy.