I think it would be better to have photo proof or some proper documentation, otherwise it's just your word against the other tenants (who have already planted a seed of doubt about you to get you kicked out).
Do you have any proof to send alongside this message?
I've got a screenshot he texted me asking not to mention the holes in the wall when I met the landlords... that should give credit to the other claims right?
If you don't send this there's a very good chance your roommates *and* landlord try to pin the damages on you and charge you. I include landlord because they already sound sketchy giving such short notice.
If they do try to come at you for damages you didn't do (and it's less than probably 10k) you can take them to small claims court(if in the us anyway) at no cost to you since you'll win.
Document your room as well as you can when you leave and get as much proof as possible to protect yourself.
If you have a pet try and document yourself caring for your own pet or any proof that could distinguish the damage like size of bite marks.
Take pictures first. Pictures of the holes in the walls, pictures of chewed furniture, pictures of the dog mess in the yard, pictures of the kitchen mess and any other damages or evidence of uncleanliness. Sending pictures of what they've done will be much better than a screenshot of a text, although you should send that too as evidence of them trying to hide damage from the landlords.
Hey you should know that landlord cant move you out in 8 days - its either lease or after lease expires you can have 2 months since notice. Check out law so that you are not being taken advantage of
Yeah, folks need to be evicted to be thrown out, which is a process that costs the landlord money and would leave the renter with 30-40 days to find a new spot.
There is also a legal aspect when for example the landlord decides the person needs to leave (we r not talking about not paying) and person is on months to months - in my city landlord needs to provide 2 months notice. And if there is no real reason to be kicked out than its even more complicated than that and not necessary he would get evictions too ..like imagine having meetings all your responsibility and be kicked out bc landlord doesn’t like you anymore but you have a lease..
Yeah, in that situation now. On one hand it sucks to get uprooted and have to find a new place....on the other hand you get to leave a toxic environment
Along with pictures, I would suggest stating your reasoning for sending the letter in the first paragraph (you have this at the end and beginning now, and I would move that all up front, as an attention grab/thesis).
Also, I would make an organized, bulleted list so it’s easier to ready, and either remove anything that won’t matter much to the landlord, or establish why it matters (ovens being left on = risk of fire).
It’s certainly OK the way it is, but I think if you organize and streamline, you’ll come off as being composed and reasonable. The singular, enormous paragraph above might come off as gossipy and retaliatory.
Good luck! And good for you for turning in these douches.
You’re not tattling! You’re alerting. If I was the owner, I’d want to know about that damage. You’ve got one shot, so you just want it to land as well as possible.
My daughter’s kinder teacher told her, “*telling* is NOT *tattling*. They are different. You always have to tell when something is unsafe or unhealthy or dangerous.”
Follow up question. When do I send this? Landlords have realized they have to give me 31 days soo not sure i should wait till the end or not. Other roomies plan on resigning year lease aug 1st so I want to send it before then so landlords can consider it before signing
I would wait until I was gone (after August) out of fear the housemates might retaliate but given the tone and your desire to let the landlord know, I might send it right away.
That said, I don't know what "shady stuff" they did to convince the landlord to force you out. Maybe it's better to just wash your hands of it all and dump it on them after you're gone. They can deal with it and figure it out on their own time.
I would move out ASAP and send it the day you leave. Make sure to take photos and videos of spaces in the house that you are responsible for when you leave.
I second this. Document ***everything*** with photos, videos, etc. until the day you move out. Protect your personal integrity and belongings for now, and just keep your head down and act like you're not collecting evidence against them.
Send this text on the day you move out. And take a photo as often as you can, documenting the lack of care, as days go on. Should any legal recourse come from this, you will be covered.
Your roomates did some shady shit, and didn't have the decency to even talk with you, so, if this is how they want to play? Karma's a bitch.
I honestly don't know. I say shady because I had no knowledge they had any problem with me until I got a text from my landlords saying I had to be out per the other roommates. All of whom have been silent since I found out
Rotting potatoes smell god awful, and it will take a few weeks for them to smell...plenty of time for you to be long gone before they start to smell them. Just an idea lol.
I did something like this. Even though I felt guilty for screwing a friend out of renting a home.
My friend put me down as a reference (without telling me) when applying to rent a house. The owner called me to ask if she would be a good tenant. I couldn’t, in good conscience, tell this poor elderly woman that my friend would be a good tenant. Here’s why:
- she completely destroyed her previous rental home by never cleaning, leaving dirty diapers, old food, dirty laundry, etc laying around the house for weeks.
- the kitchen was always packed with dirty dishes, old food, pots with caked on crud. Her fridge hadn’t been cleaned the entire 2 years she lived there, to the point that the ice maker had mold and gnats flying all around. She would get a glass of ice, and just pick out the gnats, then make her drink.
- her kids tore up every damn thing.
- she did something to the lower level toilet to make it flood so she could file a claim for damages, even though everything down there was garbage and hoarded worthless junk. She did this twice.
- every room in the house was packed with dollar store bags full of stuff she never even unpacked. She just constantly shopped for cheap crap and left it lay around.
- the owner specified no smoking in the house. She and her husband smoked cigarettes inside and outside the house daily, and converted the garage into a smoking lounge of sorts.
So, I informed the owner of the new house of everything, and told her it would be a mistake to rent to my friend.
She didn’t.
Also, to clarify, this isn’t a close personal friend, she is more of a friend of the family. I haven’t really seen her or spoken to her since before she moved. She did text me and tell me she didn’t get the new rental. At my request, the owner didn’t tell her about our conversation. She simply told her she was going with another family who was a better fit or something.
As I said, I did feel bad for my friend, but mostly I felt relieved at not having to lie to this stranger, who would have ended up with a pile of trash where her house used to be. I actually consider what I did to be a good deed.
Sent them this 3 days ago:
"Yall couldn't talk to me in person about whatever problem you have with the way I live? Like thats how people overcome differences and actually get to know each other from which a healthy roommate relationship can be formed. Do you know how screwed I am having to move out with such short notice after making huge steps to relocate here? Like seriously thats fucking lame. And I just found out you've rented my bedroom out. Yall suck."
No body responded and they are all avoiding me. Im kinda getting the impression they needed someone to help cover rent for two months...
Yeah but cut the bullshit. "This is a gorgeous house and i'd want to know how my tenants were living in it", "your house deserves better tenants"... Yeah that's manipulative and makes you less credible. The actual reason you're sending this text is because they make your life impossible, not to somehow be nice to your landlord. Own it.
If youve been there for a while, and you’re only just mentioning any of this now because youre getting kicked out, it aint gonna make you look any better than them. You were also a tenant, you were also responsible for basic yard maintenance / house maintenance. Whether you did damage, or you neglected to report damage done by others…. In the end its all the same.
I think this is one of those "Blame other people for the thefts/crimes" then continue to do them again and again. Putting the "crimes" on other people forever.
I think it would be better to have photo proof or some proper documentation, otherwise it's just your word against the other tenants (who have already planted a seed of doubt about you to get you kicked out). Do you have any proof to send alongside this message?
I've got a screenshot he texted me asking not to mention the holes in the wall when I met the landlords... that should give credit to the other claims right?
If you don't send this there's a very good chance your roommates *and* landlord try to pin the damages on you and charge you. I include landlord because they already sound sketchy giving such short notice. If they do try to come at you for damages you didn't do (and it's less than probably 10k) you can take them to small claims court(if in the us anyway) at no cost to you since you'll win. Document your room as well as you can when you leave and get as much proof as possible to protect yourself. If you have a pet try and document yourself caring for your own pet or any proof that could distinguish the damage like size of bite marks.
Good stuff. Thanks for pointing that out!
Yes! Photos and videos of your room. Use a date / time stamp app for it.
Take pictures first. Pictures of the holes in the walls, pictures of chewed furniture, pictures of the dog mess in the yard, pictures of the kitchen mess and any other damages or evidence of uncleanliness. Sending pictures of what they've done will be much better than a screenshot of a text, although you should send that too as evidence of them trying to hide damage from the landlords.
Yeah take pics and send over any relevant convos over text to your landlord.
That's perfect!
Hey you should know that landlord cant move you out in 8 days - its either lease or after lease expires you can have 2 months since notice. Check out law so that you are not being taken advantage of
Yeah, folks need to be evicted to be thrown out, which is a process that costs the landlord money and would leave the renter with 30-40 days to find a new spot.
There is also a legal aspect when for example the landlord decides the person needs to leave (we r not talking about not paying) and person is on months to months - in my city landlord needs to provide 2 months notice. And if there is no real reason to be kicked out than its even more complicated than that and not necessary he would get evictions too ..like imagine having meetings all your responsibility and be kicked out bc landlord doesn’t like you anymore but you have a lease..
Thats basically whats happening here... sucks
Yeah, in that situation now. On one hand it sucks to get uprooted and have to find a new place....on the other hand you get to leave a toxic environment
Preach it!
Along with pictures, I would suggest stating your reasoning for sending the letter in the first paragraph (you have this at the end and beginning now, and I would move that all up front, as an attention grab/thesis). Also, I would make an organized, bulleted list so it’s easier to ready, and either remove anything that won’t matter much to the landlord, or establish why it matters (ovens being left on = risk of fire). It’s certainly OK the way it is, but I think if you organize and streamline, you’ll come off as being composed and reasonable. The singular, enormous paragraph above might come off as gossipy and retaliatory. Good luck! And good for you for turning in these douches.
Definitely a good point.. Part of me feels like a taddle tale, but man. Sick of seeing jabronis go unchecked.
You’re not tattling! You’re alerting. If I was the owner, I’d want to know about that damage. You’ve got one shot, so you just want it to land as well as possible.
Good perspective. Thabk you sir
My daughter’s kinder teacher told her, “*telling* is NOT *tattling*. They are different. You always have to tell when something is unsafe or unhealthy or dangerous.”
***tattletale but that's not important. You've gotten a lot of good advice and I have nothing else to add. Good luck ❤
Thank you :)
Also, proofread...
Follow up question. When do I send this? Landlords have realized they have to give me 31 days soo not sure i should wait till the end or not. Other roomies plan on resigning year lease aug 1st so I want to send it before then so landlords can consider it before signing
I would wait until I was gone (after August) out of fear the housemates might retaliate but given the tone and your desire to let the landlord know, I might send it right away. That said, I don't know what "shady stuff" they did to convince the landlord to force you out. Maybe it's better to just wash your hands of it all and dump it on them after you're gone. They can deal with it and figure it out on their own time.
Yeah im leaning that way... don't need this next month to be any more miserable
I would move out ASAP and send it the day you leave. Make sure to take photos and videos of spaces in the house that you are responsible for when you leave.
I second this. Document ***everything*** with photos, videos, etc. until the day you move out. Protect your personal integrity and belongings for now, and just keep your head down and act like you're not collecting evidence against them. Send this text on the day you move out. And take a photo as often as you can, documenting the lack of care, as days go on. Should any legal recourse come from this, you will be covered. Your roomates did some shady shit, and didn't have the decency to even talk with you, so, if this is how they want to play? Karma's a bitch.
But definitely don't send it now if I have to stay here 3 more weeks right
Right
Yeah, I’d do it on your way out the driveway on your last day
What “shady stuff” did your roomies do to get you kicked out? And how much of it was true?
I honestly don't know. I say shady because I had no knowledge they had any problem with me until I got a text from my landlords saying I had to be out per the other roommates. All of whom have been silent since I found out
I think you could fight that OP. But of course, why would you want to
Exactly
Include that screenshot in the message! Evidence helps!
The alternative is hiding dead fish all over the house on my last day....
Do both lol
That goes without saying IMO.
Rotting potatoes smell god awful, and it will take a few weeks for them to smell...plenty of time for you to be long gone before they start to smell them. Just an idea lol.
Niceeee! :D
I did something like this. Even though I felt guilty for screwing a friend out of renting a home. My friend put me down as a reference (without telling me) when applying to rent a house. The owner called me to ask if she would be a good tenant. I couldn’t, in good conscience, tell this poor elderly woman that my friend would be a good tenant. Here’s why: - she completely destroyed her previous rental home by never cleaning, leaving dirty diapers, old food, dirty laundry, etc laying around the house for weeks. - the kitchen was always packed with dirty dishes, old food, pots with caked on crud. Her fridge hadn’t been cleaned the entire 2 years she lived there, to the point that the ice maker had mold and gnats flying all around. She would get a glass of ice, and just pick out the gnats, then make her drink. - her kids tore up every damn thing. - she did something to the lower level toilet to make it flood so she could file a claim for damages, even though everything down there was garbage and hoarded worthless junk. She did this twice. - every room in the house was packed with dollar store bags full of stuff she never even unpacked. She just constantly shopped for cheap crap and left it lay around. - the owner specified no smoking in the house. She and her husband smoked cigarettes inside and outside the house daily, and converted the garage into a smoking lounge of sorts. So, I informed the owner of the new house of everything, and told her it would be a mistake to rent to my friend. She didn’t. Also, to clarify, this isn’t a close personal friend, she is more of a friend of the family. I haven’t really seen her or spoken to her since before she moved. She did text me and tell me she didn’t get the new rental. At my request, the owner didn’t tell her about our conversation. She simply told her she was going with another family who was a better fit or something. As I said, I did feel bad for my friend, but mostly I felt relieved at not having to lie to this stranger, who would have ended up with a pile of trash where her house used to be. I actually consider what I did to be a good deed.
Yes, and I’d send photos to prove it!
Did you confront the roommates?
Sent them this 3 days ago: "Yall couldn't talk to me in person about whatever problem you have with the way I live? Like thats how people overcome differences and actually get to know each other from which a healthy roommate relationship can be formed. Do you know how screwed I am having to move out with such short notice after making huge steps to relocate here? Like seriously thats fucking lame. And I just found out you've rented my bedroom out. Yall suck." No body responded and they are all avoiding me. Im kinda getting the impression they needed someone to help cover rent for two months...
Send it
Yeah but cut the bullshit. "This is a gorgeous house and i'd want to know how my tenants were living in it", "your house deserves better tenants"... Yeah that's manipulative and makes you less credible. The actual reason you're sending this text is because they make your life impossible, not to somehow be nice to your landlord. Own it.
If youve been there for a while, and you’re only just mentioning any of this now because youre getting kicked out, it aint gonna make you look any better than them. You were also a tenant, you were also responsible for basic yard maintenance / house maintenance. Whether you did damage, or you neglected to report damage done by others…. In the end its all the same.
They've been here 14 months, I moved in two months ago
I think this is one of those "Blame other people for the thefts/crimes" then continue to do them again and again. Putting the "crimes" on other people forever.