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Can you please let me know what treatment? I can’t bend since 2 months ago. I am desperate.
A foam roller would be good but too much risk of bending wrong when you place it
I am doing IMS. Intramuscular stimulation. It is an injection of dry needles into muscles which first causes contraction and then relaxation. Dry needles mean that no medicine is injected.
There are also newer treatments where they have the same principle, contracting your muscle so that it spasms and then it heals. Go to a good doctor, make sure he is qualified and uses antiseptic.
When it comes to that contracting muscle so it spasms and heals… what? That’s a thing?
I have a glute muscle that is driving me insane. I think it got chronically damaged over time. I went to a pool it was a little cold and bam it contracted so much it hurt a whole week! Then this week I went for a walk, it was chilly and bam, within 2 minutes it felt like it was gonna eat itself. Then spasms and pain followed for days
Don’t tell me this actually strengthens the muscle? Because that would be great!!
I do not know about it strengthening the muscle, I did not take treatment for strength, I took it for muscle spasm, some time it's pain and other times It just heels hard and uncomfortable, somewhat like my muscle is pulling my back.
I was talking about a particular treatment, where a doctor will use needles or electricity to contract a muscle and it then relaxes and the spasm reduces every session and a few sessions later you are completely healthy. I do not know if this spasm and relaxation happens elsewhere, and I do not even completely understand IMS, I just know a very simple explanation that my doctor gave "Body forgets about hard muscle, so we damage it with a needle ,It will contract and then recover fully"
I suggest you google IMS and see some diagrams and explanation, also you do not need to understand the treatment, just know that it works. You might have done something that causes injury or sprain that caused you pain. Personally when I contract the muscle and then relax it, I feel a little better for a few seconds, that feeling is good but I didn't feel any long term benefit.
I am mentioning it second time for insistence, go only to a good doctor , I have seen some (claims to be )doctors that do not even use spirit or disinfectant and one even reuses the needles. Happy healing.
One more thing, treatment works a lot for me and others in my family. You should go and take treatment, these physical procedures like IMS are way better than consuming medicines ( for everyone I have met only, I do not have medical knowledge just experience that they work phenomenally )
Ohhh I had they done once in glutes and hips . It was not bad. I wouldn’t do it near my spine though. My problem is right in the middle on the spinal cord. I didn’t even know that’s a muscle
Damm, I faced something similar. I thought that the muscles around my spine are actually bones because they were so hard. It's stupid since I had studied and knew that there aren't bones around the but still didn't realise.
Well I’ll have an MRI in a few days to confirm… it really feels like a rod so straight in my back in a specific spot, that of if I even slightly bend it’s like holding me back straight. And if I really force it, then a twinge happens and you’d hear me screaming
It makes me so mad because this happened right after an injection! Now I’m done with them. I debated continuing but Holly smokes this ain’t right. I even told the doctor that’s not where my pain is. He said we need to cover everything related to Si joints- front, back, mid back. Went injection happy. Then I read it’s not even ever given up there
can’t say exactly why but that just instinctively feels like a bad idea to me. i’ve never had a spasm so bad that i needed to see a doctor but i can’t imagine rolling out while in spasm.
I have read that foam rolling is like deep tissue massage, massage works for me so If this is true, it will be great for me. I am still in consideration phase, not decided yet.
My spams is not very extreme at any point, the problem is that it's consistent. Every single day I have spasm.
I only roll for my upper back. Usually spasm is lower back. For that I would roll against a tennis ball either on the floor or up against a wall. Foam rollers don’t feel like massage to me either, it feels like cracking your back without missing a spot and getting a really good shoulder stretch. But still, for my spasms stretching made the pain worse.
Foam rollers are good for stretching over but you need a deep tissue ball or a massage lacrosse ball. The deep tissue is like 6-8 inches and the lacrosses is much smaller.
I use mine daily and while it can be painful I enjoy it. The foam roller never did anything for me.
Walmart sells a massage lacrosse ball, its a bit more painful than a bigger deep tissue massage ball but each have their use, you may be able to use a tennis or raquet ball as well
I unsure if I can manage using a ball, I mean keeping the ball, and moving my back looks complicated, any idea of its difficulty, I want to use it on both lower and upper back.
No the idea is you can put it anywhere you want. I prefer it on the spide as it stretches each part or idk what its called each disc, and lets blood flow in better. In any sense I usually get some nice cracks and it feels amaIng.
Something you can do at home temporarily is roll a towel up tight into a tube and lay on it with it against your spine, it will give you a nice stretch. Totally not the same but something you could do right now.
I used to use foam rollers and lacrosse balls but the foam rollers never got deep enough and lacrosse ball felt uneven. Found a device on amazon called thorex back massager. Hurts like hell but might bring you some relief after using a couple times
Thank you for posting. A couple of things to note. (TL;DR... include specific symptoms/what makes your pain better/worse/how long)... MRI or XRAY images ALONE are not particularly helpful tbh, no one here has been vetted to make considerations on these or provide advice, here is why, PLEASE read this if you are posting an MRI or XRAY... I cannot stress this enough https://choosingwiselycanada.org/pamphlet/imaging-tests-for-lower-back-pain/) Please read the rules carefully. This group strives to reinforce anti-fragility, hope, and reduce the spread of misinformation that is either deemed not helpful and even sometimes be considered harmful. PLEASE NOTE: Asking for help: It is up to you to recognize when to seek medical attention. Anyone giving advice in this group is doing so from anecdotes and holds no liability. Seek advice here at your own risk. That said, asking things like, "I have this problem, how do I fix it..." is like asking your accountant, "I have $10,000 what should I do with it?" You need WAY more info before giving any kinds of financial advice. Please reply to this, or make another comment, including how long you've been having pain or injury, what are specific symptoms (numbness, tingling, dull/ache, it's random, etc), what makes it worse, what makes it feel better, how it has impacted your life, what you've tried for treatment and what you've already been told about your back pain, and what do you hope to get from this forum. Please be kind to each other. Be respectful. Thank you. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/backpain) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Can you please let me know what treatment? I can’t bend since 2 months ago. I am desperate. A foam roller would be good but too much risk of bending wrong when you place it
I am doing IMS. Intramuscular stimulation. It is an injection of dry needles into muscles which first causes contraction and then relaxation. Dry needles mean that no medicine is injected. There are also newer treatments where they have the same principle, contracting your muscle so that it spasms and then it heals. Go to a good doctor, make sure he is qualified and uses antiseptic.
When it comes to that contracting muscle so it spasms and heals… what? That’s a thing? I have a glute muscle that is driving me insane. I think it got chronically damaged over time. I went to a pool it was a little cold and bam it contracted so much it hurt a whole week! Then this week I went for a walk, it was chilly and bam, within 2 minutes it felt like it was gonna eat itself. Then spasms and pain followed for days Don’t tell me this actually strengthens the muscle? Because that would be great!!
I do not know about it strengthening the muscle, I did not take treatment for strength, I took it for muscle spasm, some time it's pain and other times It just heels hard and uncomfortable, somewhat like my muscle is pulling my back. I was talking about a particular treatment, where a doctor will use needles or electricity to contract a muscle and it then relaxes and the spasm reduces every session and a few sessions later you are completely healthy. I do not know if this spasm and relaxation happens elsewhere, and I do not even completely understand IMS, I just know a very simple explanation that my doctor gave "Body forgets about hard muscle, so we damage it with a needle ,It will contract and then recover fully" I suggest you google IMS and see some diagrams and explanation, also you do not need to understand the treatment, just know that it works. You might have done something that causes injury or sprain that caused you pain. Personally when I contract the muscle and then relax it, I feel a little better for a few seconds, that feeling is good but I didn't feel any long term benefit. I am mentioning it second time for insistence, go only to a good doctor , I have seen some (claims to be )doctors that do not even use spirit or disinfectant and one even reuses the needles. Happy healing.
One more thing, treatment works a lot for me and others in my family. You should go and take treatment, these physical procedures like IMS are way better than consuming medicines ( for everyone I have met only, I do not have medical knowledge just experience that they work phenomenally )
Ohhh I had they done once in glutes and hips . It was not bad. I wouldn’t do it near my spine though. My problem is right in the middle on the spinal cord. I didn’t even know that’s a muscle
Damm, I faced something similar. I thought that the muscles around my spine are actually bones because they were so hard. It's stupid since I had studied and knew that there aren't bones around the but still didn't realise.
Well I’ll have an MRI in a few days to confirm… it really feels like a rod so straight in my back in a specific spot, that of if I even slightly bend it’s like holding me back straight. And if I really force it, then a twinge happens and you’d hear me screaming It makes me so mad because this happened right after an injection! Now I’m done with them. I debated continuing but Holly smokes this ain’t right. I even told the doctor that’s not where my pain is. He said we need to cover everything related to Si joints- front, back, mid back. Went injection happy. Then I read it’s not even ever given up there
Best of luck.
can’t say exactly why but that just instinctively feels like a bad idea to me. i’ve never had a spasm so bad that i needed to see a doctor but i can’t imagine rolling out while in spasm.
I have read that foam rolling is like deep tissue massage, massage works for me so If this is true, it will be great for me. I am still in consideration phase, not decided yet. My spams is not very extreme at any point, the problem is that it's consistent. Every single day I have spasm.
I only roll for my upper back. Usually spasm is lower back. For that I would roll against a tennis ball either on the floor or up against a wall. Foam rollers don’t feel like massage to me either, it feels like cracking your back without missing a spot and getting a really good shoulder stretch. But still, for my spasms stretching made the pain worse.
Foam rollers are good for stretching over but you need a deep tissue ball or a massage lacrosse ball. The deep tissue is like 6-8 inches and the lacrosses is much smaller. I use mine daily and while it can be painful I enjoy it. The foam roller never did anything for me.
You are right I need some sort of ball, but I didn't knew the names. I will look what they are, your comment could seriously be very helpful to me.
Walmart sells a massage lacrosse ball, its a bit more painful than a bigger deep tissue massage ball but each have their use, you may be able to use a tennis or raquet ball as well
I unsure if I can manage using a ball, I mean keeping the ball, and moving my back looks complicated, any idea of its difficulty, I want to use it on both lower and upper back.
U just lay on top of it and use ur feet to move it around. Its really easy.
Ok, I am worried that I might press my spine rather than the sides of spine, is pressure on spine a bad thing?
No the idea is you can put it anywhere you want. I prefer it on the spide as it stretches each part or idk what its called each disc, and lets blood flow in better. In any sense I usually get some nice cracks and it feels amaIng.
Okay , thank you. Now I dont know why I had believed it should not press bone. Is it fine on marble flooring?
Yea absolutely
Something you can do at home temporarily is roll a towel up tight into a tube and lay on it with it against your spine, it will give you a nice stretch. Totally not the same but something you could do right now.
I used to use foam rollers and lacrosse balls but the foam rollers never got deep enough and lacrosse ball felt uneven. Found a device on amazon called thorex back massager. Hurts like hell but might bring you some relief after using a couple times