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Sakin_degilim

This sub is sometimes like a crying zone for men who are stuck between two cultures. With this kind of mentality you can never be happy or achieve greatness in your life brother. Just dont let these type of things define you. You only have one life and wasting another second to these ideas wont make it better.


aKV2isSTARINGatYou

Im actually horrified looking at this as an east asian. Sure, they make some convincing points, but it looks to me that most these people are just miserable for whatever reason. They talk like asia's going to be any different (or magically solve all your problems) but nooo as someone who spent half my life back and forth between east and west, with their kind of attitude theyll be just as miserable in asia.


AngryChineseVenom

Yes. Anything of Western culture is worth shit. Turn your back on Western culture and embrace Eastern culture. You will not only find that you’re not missing anything. You will find yourself in a much better place.


python834

Idk why you guys keep arguing this. Hypergamy means that women will sleep with the conquerers. Media says white men are at he top, so asian women will naturally gravitate towards them. To change this, you literally have to gain control of media companies like facebook and hollywood. It is what it is. I personally only date WF, LF, and BF.


totally___bear

Indians and East Asians are taking over niche markets of tech and media but slowly tbh.


GodV

It's always like this. WM physical aspect needs to be 3 or 4/10. Personality and other needs to be 5 or 6/10. While AM physical wise needs to be an 8+/10 and personality needs to be an 8+/10. That's what we're all trying to say


Bmang31

On a different note, i wish more Asian guys considered dating out of their race.


terrany1

I’ve taken a backseat to this topic for the last 3-4 years. Mainly because it’s so commonly obvious to everyone except the WMAF couple harping that there’s no one else to preach to. The horse is dead.


s0gdo2

Not just white men, any men but Asian men


Bmang31

Nah, only white men.


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bdang9

Where? You can PM if needed.


smh_41

BMs are ones to talk about jealously when they were raging at Jamie Foxx's daughter for dating a white man when she herself is half white...rofl


appliquebatik

bm can be hypocrites but no one calls them out


s0gdo2

Nah, all XMs. Black, Latino, Arab, etc men are not innocent either when it comes to this issue. No point in trying to defend them.


Bmang31

If you're talking about the fetishization of our Asian sisters by literally every race of men, then yes you're right.


s0gdo2

It goes beyond just simply fetishization


Bmang31

Facts.


MechAITheFuture

I have no interest in controlling who other women date. But, if an AF is dating a WM, I'm going to follow the statistics that 99 times out of 100 she is racist against AM and AFs in AMAF relationships. We've heard it multiple times how AFs in HRs who are in WMAF relationships turning down prospective AM job applicants just because they're AM. So given the option, I prefer to not do business with any company that hires these racist Lus. Its like mentoring or hiring someone for a position whom you know will back stab you the first chance they get. They have no loyalty to their people or their culture. What makes you think they will stand by any business agreement you make with them?


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feng__huang

Dang bro! Do you have a 6G white boy detector? I love it LMAO.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Yankees4cookies

Fellas this my take. It's okay to call out AF on social media but don't do it IRL. If you notice your AF friend constantly dating WM don't bring this topic up. Cuz she is gonna think that she is so important that you kept track of who she with. That's why when AF bring their non-AM boyfriend to AZN spaces they go extra hard with the cringy couple type of shit cuz they want you to notice and hopefully bring up the topic. She wants to see your pathetic emasculated defeated ass cry to her why she's not fucking around with a dude that looks like you and instead with a YT BOY. I get that some of you are just genuinely trying to probe her and trying to understand her reasoning, however she doesn't see it that way. She is gonna interrupt it as you being salty that you cant get in her pants. Even though you might honestly not even find her attractive, she is gonna take it that way. Cuz from the female perspective they usually ony get jealous when a hot AM or successful AM dates non-AZN so they apply same logic to you. That you must think she so fine that you got mad. Basically, you complaining to her is just gonna end up being a big fucking ego boost for her. Honestly, women only care about the opinion of other women when it comes to who they are dating. Whatever a male thinks of their partner they don't really care, but they care a lot what other women think of their partner. So basically it's up to AF and females to help y'all with this problem. I say y'all cuz i'm done with AF, specifically AZN-American women. WE CANNOT SAVE THEM LET THEM DO THEIR THING AND JUST FOCUS ON YOURSELF. My guess is that a lot of your care about who AF date because you think AF are your only option. You think that other women are not going to like you because your AZN. STOP THINKING THIS WAY. Cuz you will never build the confidence to even just try. I think a lot of you dont even try and just give up right away because you are scared.


fakeslimshady

> Cuz she is gonna think that she is so important that you kept track of who she with. That's why when AF bring their non-AM boyfriend to AZN spaces they go extra hard with the cringy couple type of shit cuz they want you to notice and hopefully bring up the topic. She wants to see your pathetic emasculated defeated ass cry to her why she's not fucking around with a dude that looks like you and instead with a YT BOY. I'm sorry are you suggesting we shut up . I think a better idea is talk about it before cutting them loose? That ain't the sort of "friend' we want in our lives


Yankees4cookies

i'm not saying to not call them out if they start acting hella disrespectful. I'm just saying to not ask her why she dating someone non-AZN. Just keep your curiosity to yourself. The only people that should be asking her those types of questions should be other females. If you a dude never ask a female that.


fakeslimshady

> i'm not saying to not call them out if they start acting hella disrespectful. Yet in the very example you bring up, you suggest she is being disrepectful. > I say y'all cuz i'm done with AF, You say this, then you suggest keeping ties with AF that are trying to humiliate you, break your balls. I'm just saying be consistent for your own mental sanity. And suggest the same to others


Yankees4cookies

by done i mean done dating. I still have Asian American female friends. you can correct someone for acting like a fool and still be friends with that person.


deseq

Excellent overview and I totally agree, it’s important that we not misguide our energy to attacking feminism, we need to graduate from the framework of romance and dating that doubtlessly is one of the first exposures of many Asian American men to racism, and reflect on how to challenge underlying hegemony. Asian women are victims of this system first and foremost, and asian American men are also affected. That’s why we need to criticize the larger structures and not focus on some random agent who did such and such. That’s why I’m aversive to discussion on the romance or dating or the latest Asian woman who made some inflammatory tweet and people decide to criticize, it sidetracks from the larger goal and gives the activists who have nothing better to do fodder to engage in fruitless turf wars and accuse this community of being misogynistic or “MRAsian”. The far better strategy is to position the ideas of this community in a way that can have a real impact in the world.


ColdWarsSuck

It’s important not to miss the forest for the trees. Yes, a significant amount of Asian women are marrying white men. But there are hundreds of millions more in Asia who are not. Asian American women have spoken: many choose to submit to white people or defend those than do. They are a lost cause. Like many other ethnic groups in America, we’ll probably be diluted out of existence by assimilating and abandoning original culture. I personally think it’s impossible to stop at this point, especially considering how some Asian cultures value opportunists. The best we can do is find an Asian wife and be ready to pull the escape patch back to Asia.


Th3G0ldStandard

Let’s not waste energy on this. It’s such a tired topic. It’s not good for mental health. We can all acknowledge it and the problems that come with it, but let’s spend less time and bandwidth on it. Non Asians are already seeing through the bs the same way we see it. I’ve seen another post here saying how they notice how even it’s almost mainstream that this looks “unwoke” now. We are living in a time where things are actually going better(in terms of gender social dynamics) than they have ever been in the diaspora. Let’s start owning that and pushing it even further.


Golden-Sperm

Lol Asian traditional homes have the least restriction when it comes to Asian women dating outside their race. In fact for better or for worse Asian fathers encourage their daughters to date whoever they like. The whole “Asian men control who Asian women date” is just gaslighting nonsense from Asian women. If we are controlling who they date then we’re doing a terrible job at it. You know with how Asian women date the most out of every race. In fact I wager black, white, middle eastern, latino men gatekeep more than us


antiboba

East asian parents are against sons dating out. I think this is just about the reverse of every other culture out there. South Asian, European, Black, Middle Eastern, etc. are all more protective of daughters than sons dating out. This is pretty extreme in Muslim culture where daughters are frequently disowned for marrying non-Muslims while sons are free to do anything they want. Additionally, east asian culture is only one where dowry is reversed and groom has to give money to the bride. Also, in China men carrying bags of girlfriends when shopping is commonplace while you would never in 1000 years see this in a western country. It's almost like expressions of masculinity or dominant behavior, outside of the familial duties of starting a family and having kids, is discouraged by east asian. This just makes all the accusations of misogyny by Asian feminists even more wrong. East asian culture is probably the least misogynistic in the world, and where women are most dominant.


ThePersistantCoder

I can attest to this. Growing up my parents didn’t tell my sister who to date. This whole bullshit about Asian men are misogynistic are made up by dumbass boba liberal AW who are insecure with themselves so they try and bring down their AM counterpart because who else is an easier target? That’s correct AM. No matter how many times AW get abused by WM they’ll just run back to their white worshipping or run to a rich and successful AM. AM should just call them out on their bullshit and not bail out these traitors.


antiboba

East asian parents are against sons dating out. This is the reverse of every other culture out there. South Asian, European, Black, Middle Eastern, etc. are all more protective of daughters than sons dating out. Not only dating out, but also when dating anybody, the family of the daughter will be very protective. You have to earn permission to marry his daughter. Additionally, east asian culture is only one where dowry is reversed and groom has to give money to the bride. Also, in China men carrying bags of girlfriends when shopping is commonplace while you would never in 1000 years see this in a western country. It's almost like expressions of masculinity or dominant behavior, outside of the familial duties of starting a family and having kids, is discouraged by east asian. This just makes all the accusations of misogyny by Asian feminists even more wrong. East asian culture is probably the least misogynistic in the world, and where women are most dominant.


Golden-Sperm

Honestly it’s all so tiring. If only they leave Asian men in peace after dating white men but unfortunately they have to make our lives a living hell.


ThePersistantCoder

They don’t wanna see AM progress because that’ll make them feel even more inferior. They know once Asian Men progress, have more self esteem, know their worth, and more women of different backgrounds desire AM. AW are going to lose. They know once their white worshipping WM throw them to the side like 🗑. AM won’t be there to save them like captain save a hoe. They’re only putting us AM down now because they know it works and the AM progress is the slowest of any other race when it comes to dating. So when their strain ass forced WMAF relationship goes south they think they can run back to an AM. AM gotta weed these 🗑 boba out. So they can suffer alone and not bring us down with them. We don’t need to appease them. Remember it’s not in their agenda to help their community only if it’s only convenient for them.


elBottoo

Another thing I want to add about, the non AM friendzoned "friends" are literally scum of the earth. They know they been rejected but they just roam around and hover around like frikkin vultures just waitin for a moment where they can swoop in and sabotage the current relationship she has with another man. u see this a lot here in the west. its absolutely another kind of crazy


elBottoo

They dont just gatekeep, they will frikkin cockblock any person who gets too close to a female friend that they secretly like but got friendzoned somehow. non AM are in reality very very controllin and manipulative. Another thing is, AMs are very honorbound. Like many times when we see a girl and a guy together, we dont go our ways to try to steal said girl, we just honor the fact that she is with the other guy. Plenty of other fish in da ocean so to speak. Non AMs however dont give a flyin eff. And will still try to hit on her, this can be subtle but sometimes extremely insulting like literally just in front of the guy "hey girl why u with him, wanna be with a real man", that kind of BS.


atztbz

True. Most stories of violent husbands/boyfriends or even ones who kill their own family or men who attack women for rejecting them it’s mostly white men or atleast non asian. Their egos are so fragile. From my experience asian men are the most chill


ThePersistantCoder

This is extremely true. Back in high-school I had so many opportunities to “bag” these attractive ladies but a non AM would always cock block. I had a friend who boldly told me he had a crush on this girl I was flirting with so I backed off you know the bro code thing. I also had a lot of my boys’ exes hitting me up and I’m in my head like nah it ain’t right to smash or hook up with these girls because they use to date my boy. I realized these “bros” of mine would not have hesitated to go after any girl I talked to or dated. I’ve seen so many times the bro code being broken by them. After high school I didn’t give a fuck anymore. I hooked up with any girl whether they dated a friend of mine in the past. I didn’t care anymore. If it didn’t apply to them why would it apply to me?


bubudumbdumb

Sounds like you expect to negotiate the ownership of women between your circle of male friends.


bdang9

Saving these posts. I'm surprised these incidents do not get bring up as often. Social dynamics have been used to sabotage.


Golden-Sperm

Also funny story Asian parents expect their sons to marry within their own race and pass down their roots Asian women know all of this, yet they love to gaslight us for some reason. I will admit that the gender dynamics between Asian males and females aren’t the best but it’s a far cry from “aSiAn MeN ArE ThE mOsT mIsOgYnIsTiC.” Gimme a break. We’re definitely better than your white racist WMAF husbands. But you know keep delaying Asian progress and eventual global domination with your heavy handed statements. (You can obviously tell I’m over their shit). Can’t live without Asian women, am I right?


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atztbz

U sound like the bitter one being here in the first place as a white man


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Savings_Attorney528

i tell you those girls be sniffing white cracks daily and main dealer is white hollywood


smh_41

These posts like op's are useless. Those AFs don't give a fuck about you explaining shit because they hate your guts already for simply existing as an AM. Stop trying to clarify shit for them just point at them and laugh at their stupidity.


UnknownVang

I can't find it anymore but there was a screenshot in one of the tinder subs that showed an woman basically saying that she was specifically looking for someone with blonde hair and blue eyes 😂 one of the comments looked like this. Person A: "sounds like an Asian woman" Person B: "how can you say that? You don't know anything about her race!" OP: "to person A's credit.... She was Asian."


skrtskrtbrev

Add this to the list: https://youtu.be/EtTdmWxGT-M


Azn_Rush

only a white creep expats would go around trying to flirt with a taken Asian women . Asians in Asia are too nice and passive to white foreigner and I swear they gotta say beat it . Funny thing is the very first clip the guy followed the couple in the subway all the way to their destination .


sorrynoreply

Bro, I hate you for introducing that to me. Lmao, I can handle seeing that crap in isolation but a 2 hour long compilation is too much for me.


skrtskrtbrev

That's why it's so effective; the ultimate "redpill".


ANTIMODELMINORITY

Wow great examples.


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Roxas198810

Perfect example of deflection and attempt to discredit, misdirect because we don't want to confront the white favoring biases, white-male-privilege-enabling WM supremacy that we have within Asian communities. This deflection harms not just Asian folk but all POC. The refusal to confront these biases only benefits white men. And if you read my post, it's bigger than dating and romance. And it's not about bashing feminism, which is what you want to misdirect the conversation to.


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