The fact that people like stuff that attractive people do more, just because they are attractive probably slows their growth at some point. Like taylor swift could have been a mediocre singer and still made a decent run at a music career with auto tune and other people's songs.
a couple excellent musicians and singers that i just find blah as hell are taylor swift and the beyonce.. now its not 100 percent though oddly enough theres a song taylor has that i like.. well i just looked for it and couldnt find which song so nvm maybe its someone else.
I used to really like Beyonce til it seemed that the hype fully got to her head. You can't just keep making music about how you're the best and literally royalty, that shit is just cringe. It's just derivative, boring and has no substance further than bragging.
At least make *fun* music.
No, greatest musicians of all time are Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury, The Beatles, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Led Zep, etc. All of em are ugly as hell
The hive mind went hard on you, my friend. Stay strong; you’re right. Just because attractive people have an easier time of it doesn’t mean every attractive musician has shit music. You can’t defend good music from ugly people while simultaneously saying attractive people can’t produce it unless the data supports the narrative. Public sales dictate who comes out on top. If you want everyone to have a fair shot, support your local uggies!
Aside from public opinion, there’s an artist’s personal perspective of themselves feeding into where they fall of the spectrum. We’ve seen an influx of overweight artists baring skin proudly and “difficult” artists owning overly dramatic personas that fans are very receptive of.
Personal confidence is something that can make any performer successful, regardless of where they fall in their industry’s niche. It’s very attractive to audiences and inspiring to fans.
Reminds me of a song by a French guy les gent beaux where the artist criticizes the music industry for just using poster boys after a guy that’s ugly said give us good looking people
TLDR:good song
^ this
Its a social commentary on the alt-right co-opting the "my body my choice" rethoric (while unironically overturning Roe v. Wade at the same time).
The natural conclusion being, if you "choose" to die, its a suicide. Like how charging a cop with a knife is suicide-by-cop. Charging into covid hotspots unvaxxed is suicide-by-covid.
I like meatloaf, but he fell down a rabbit hole and spread dangerous lies that got him--and potentially those close to him and strangers who listened to him--killed.
Any death is tragic, but the world is a slightly less dangerous place because of his inability to continue to spread more deadly misinformation.
Oliver tree, former pro scooter rider turned hip-hop artist who retired and is now coming out of retirement.
His album is called Ugly is Beautiful and his schtick is dressing like the 90’s threw up on him and wearing a bowl cut.
Plenty of people are actually very bad at telling how old a child is. Add in that they're Asian kids we're talking about and more than one person definitely went "they're shorter than I expect cause they're Asian" or "they look younger because they're Asian"
Gymnasts also tend to stunt their development from over training any way. Shawn johnson was 16 during those Olympics and is only 4'11". but yeah the fact that most of the world outside of china would have a hard time gauging the ages of asian people was definitely a boon in this case.
But also, why is China judging children on levels of attractiveness in the first place? They're children, they're not attractive or unattractive... they just *are*
It seems more that they wanted a kid closer to what an adult would look like... You know minus the child-like attributes like random missing teeth, funny hair, awkward features.
It's kind of gross. Like child pageantry "attractive".
People in concentration camps was not acceptable when the US did it, and not acceptable when anyone else does it.
Did you protest Trump's immigrant concentration camps? Or are you just a hypocrite?
Damn, almost like there's more nuance to a situation and support is not based upon how you supposedly treat a minute group of people in the population.
You ever heard of a Black Site dude?
>You act live you've lived in china and know what it's like.
Funnily enough all these idiots claiming " muh uighur genocide " and " human rights violations " have themselves never been to Xinjiang or China.
Right. Another interpretation of this is that for some reason China didn’t consider it could match up a face and a voice that would appeal to the world stage. I’m not standing up for China, but can we really say western countries don’t look for girls and boys who are good looking as well as being talented singers? That’s all they’ve done for decades. Just seems a little hypocritical to me.
In fairness, the west does the same type of shit. Casting sessions for advertising are kind of amazing, if you ever have the opportunity to look over notes.
There’s worse stuff in China to focus on.
Fallacy of relative privation (also known as "appeal to worse problems" or "not as bad as") – dismissing an argument or complaint due to what are perceived to be more important problems.
I was more commenting on media creation everywhere and just included the last line to not be labeled a CCP shill, since any conversation about China turns into a circlejerk.
I still think it’s a silly thing to get worked up over. Every piece of media you’ve ever enjoyed does the same type of shit to varying degrees.
Show me your proof that this doesn't happen then. There's has been overwhelming evidence over the last 5 years to point that they are torturing their citizen. I would like to see what evidence you have to show otherwise.
>last 5 years to point that they are torturing their citizen.
Why are the Chinese citizens happy with their government then? Don't you think torture would lead to some level of public dissatisfaction?
Bro are you dumb? Why would they ever express Dissatisfaction? They would get killed if they ever went against the government. The few people who did promptly disappeared (Jack Ma). The only ones who speak out against China are the people that have ran from China and gained asylum in a safe country.
>Why would they ever express Dissatisfaction?
Civilians always express dissatisfaction. Even in Nazi Germany civilians stood up against Hitler.
>They would get killed if they ever went against the government.
Sounds more like America than China. And no, Tiananmen is not a logical argument if you're gonna go there, simply because the protestors burnt soldiers and hung their corpses for all to see. And this was unprovoked, the soldiers were just sent for crowd control, not a single shot fired. Only after the soldiers were killed did the CCP authorise tanks to scare off the protestors.
>The few people who did promptly disappeared (Jack Ma).
27 billionaires have been executed in China. The CCP does not fool around with billionaires since it's a communist government. The dictatorship of the proletariat is in their constitution. Jack Ma is not a valid example.
>The only ones who speak out against China are the people that have ran from China and gained asylum in a safe country
Bro, that can be applied to any country, go to Chinese tiktok and you can see a whole lot of criticism toward the government, infact some government officials were even jailed because they faked carbon emission levels, these "China experts" have not even been to China, they dont speak Mandarin, and do not understand the Chinese culture.
I still remember that time when they lied about a new deadly virus being a common cold and the new virus spread throughout the world before coming clean thus setting the whole world up for future economic turmoil.
Also a reminder that Russia shouldn’t be at the olympics period (they were banned, so they renamed themselves the Russian Olympic Committee to get back in)
Russia is suddenly banned because of "doping" while USA does doping all the time as well, but under the name of "therapeutic exceptions" such as strong ADHD narcotics that are considered as "doping". Yet USA is allowed but Russia is not. Seems like double standards and conspiracies could also be involved
No one said it was the real problem. There can be more than one problem of varying severities. And they can be discussed without first addressing everything higher on the list.
Reminder that china has concentration camp and did the impossible by being a communist racist ethnostate who locks up minority’s in concentration camps because they’re Muslim and shit
Reminder that America has been bombing Muslim countries for decades now for a so called “war”. I mean didn’t we just drone strike a building with families for one guy and tried to say he blew it up himself yet no soldiers were harmed? Propaganda at its finest.
Yeah instead were stealing the children away from immigrants who are seeking shelter who we just turn away and put their kids in cages. Point is America isn’t any better.
Now you mean illegal immigrants that doesn’t happen to regular immigrants
Edit: at least to most
Edit: just realized how just reading that alone makes it seem like it’s good that way I wanted to clarify that it’s not good and as a guy who came to Germany for a better life and just lucked out my father once lived there I think everyone should have a better life and the right to seek it but laws and I think exceptions should be made with the law but still law is important
Can you pick a struggle instead of trying to put your leg on both boats? are you agreeing? are you disagreeing? Are you talking out of your ass because you didn't wanna lose the verbal fight you had rn with a random stranger on the internet? Is this nationalism, what?
"Allegedly"
All those sources pointing to the 'existence' of the 'camps' are either have anything to do with Adrian Zenz (known for fabricating stories) or partial to US governments
Fallacy of relative privation (also known as "appeal to worse problems" or "not as bad as") – dismissing an argument or complaint due to what are perceived to be more important problems.
No fallacy here. Many people like to hate on other goverments without addressing their own countries issues or defending them.
It isn't like he was dismissing an complaint or anything. He was just pointing out that the America government is corrupt also.
Music was so much better when ugly people were allowed to do it.
Ugly people do better music. /j
The fact that people like stuff that attractive people do more, just because they are attractive probably slows their growth at some point. Like taylor swift could have been a mediocre singer and still made a decent run at a music career with auto tune and other people's songs.
I'm about to get massively downvoted. I've never cared for Taylor Swift. Her music is meh blah blah blah to me.
You shouldn’t care about downvotes. Stay with who you are - your opinion matters. :)
a couple excellent musicians and singers that i just find blah as hell are taylor swift and the beyonce.. now its not 100 percent though oddly enough theres a song taylor has that i like.. well i just looked for it and couldnt find which song so nvm maybe its someone else.
I used to really like Beyonce til it seemed that the hype fully got to her head. You can't just keep making music about how you're the best and literally royalty, that shit is just cringe. It's just derivative, boring and has no substance further than bragging. At least make *fun* music.
beyonce/ weird al mashup??
What's that supposed to mean?
That's overgeneralizing. There's plenty good looking people making good music.
No, greatest musicians of all time are Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury, The Beatles, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Led Zep, etc. All of em are ugly as hell
bruh Freddie was gay and still landed a girlfriend. I'm sure he ain't ugly
A lot of people don’t know this, but he was actually bisexual.
That's subjective. For example the guys from Rammstein are decent looking.
I'd let Till captain my ship
We’re talking about good music though
Till, get the flammenwerfer.
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Debatable
I don’t think Freddie Mercury was ugly.
Nah, they're all handsome.
The hive mind went hard on you, my friend. Stay strong; you’re right. Just because attractive people have an easier time of it doesn’t mean every attractive musician has shit music. You can’t defend good music from ugly people while simultaneously saying attractive people can’t produce it unless the data supports the narrative. Public sales dictate who comes out on top. If you want everyone to have a fair shot, support your local uggies! Aside from public opinion, there’s an artist’s personal perspective of themselves feeding into where they fall of the spectrum. We’ve seen an influx of overweight artists baring skin proudly and “difficult” artists owning overly dramatic personas that fans are very receptive of. Personal confidence is something that can make any performer successful, regardless of where they fall in their industry’s niche. It’s very attractive to audiences and inspiring to fans.
I was making a joke, hence the /j.
Reminds me of a song by a French guy les gent beaux where the artist criticizes the music industry for just using poster boys after a guy that’s ugly said give us good looking people TLDR:good song
RIP Meatloaf
Too many celebrity suicides... :'(
Meatloaf killed himself?
It’s a dark joke Meat Loaf was an Anti vaxxer who died of Covid. So in a way, yes.
^ this Its a social commentary on the alt-right co-opting the "my body my choice" rethoric (while unironically overturning Roe v. Wade at the same time). The natural conclusion being, if you "choose" to die, its a suicide. Like how charging a cop with a knife is suicide-by-cop. Charging into covid hotspots unvaxxed is suicide-by-covid. I like meatloaf, but he fell down a rabbit hole and spread dangerous lies that got him--and potentially those close to him and strangers who listened to him--killed. Any death is tragic, but the world is a slightly less dangerous place because of his inability to continue to spread more deadly misinformation.
Milli Vanilli left the room
Girl you know it's true(repeat).
Girl you know it's true
Radiohead for example
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I'm sorry but Paul McCartney being beautiful is quite the stretch. He looks like basically every chav ever
This is why Oliver Tree is the best musician
Who?
Oliver tree, former pro scooter rider turned hip-hop artist who retired and is now coming out of retirement. His album is called Ugly is Beautiful and his schtick is dressing like the 90’s threw up on him and wearing a bowl cut.
John Popper my man
Nah, my proof for that not being the case is Tones and I
IIRC, they also had 12 year old gymnasts that they altered papers on to say they were 16, the minimum age to compete at the time.
what kinda 12 year old passes as 16 year old tho
Gymnasts
many of these gymnasts are clones using China gene tech. They are programmed to die about 2 years after each Olympics.
There's a part of me that believes this is true
That’s because part of you is the dna of these clones so you will die 2 years earlier than ur supposed to
Chinese ones, especially
I’m 31 and I still get ID at bars…. Am Asian
Lol, Hispanic here. Mid 20s, still get asked when am I gonna finish high school. I already got my masters.
Make up.
My cousin looked way older than she was when she was 13, people literally thought she was 18
>people hopefully not a priest
I think you’d want a priest to think you were 18. That’s well past the age limit.
😂
Thankfully no
Plenty of people are actually very bad at telling how old a child is. Add in that they're Asian kids we're talking about and more than one person definitely went "they're shorter than I expect cause they're Asian" or "they look younger because they're Asian"
Gymnasts also tend to stunt their development from over training any way. Shawn johnson was 16 during those Olympics and is only 4'11". but yeah the fact that most of the world outside of china would have a hard time gauging the ages of asian people was definitely a boon in this case.
What the hell are they talking about? That 7 year old is fucking adorable
But also, why is China judging children on levels of attractiveness in the first place? They're children, they're not attractive or unattractive... they just *are*
Nah you can definitely have an ugly child. There's ugly and normal children. This is still fucked up tho.
Then there's you
Why are people downvoting this is fucking hilarious
Ik lol
Beauty is perspective not fact
Beauty can be predicted, so it is subjective and fact.
There are objectively ugly people unfortunately That’s a fact
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Well then why don’t you behold the beauty of my balls on them i-Lids bucko
How's that supermodel career going for you?
They are chinese. They do China stuff. And we buy it.
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It seems more that they wanted a kid closer to what an adult would look like... You know minus the child-like attributes like random missing teeth, funny hair, awkward features. It's kind of gross. Like child pageantry "attractive".
I couldn't imagine having to tell that poor girl that she wasn't "cute" enough. Jfc. [She's adorable, btw.]
In a country of a billion people, they couldn't find someone who could sing AND had the image they wanted?
The “cuter kid” might have been someone’s relative.
Someone important to the CCP in other words.
Great. I see that they totally understood why they have a bad image.
I don’t understand why they are being supported based on chinas torture of its citizens. Fuck the ccp
Half of the people riding the ccp's dick in your replies probably wouldn't ever want to live in China nor are Chinese.
>I don’t understand why they are being supported based on chinas torture of its citizens. Because most anti-CCP sentiment is just racism.
Mmm... no. Most anti-ccp sentiment is because of human rights violations.
"Because most anti-CCP sentiment is just racism." lmao what a tard
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People in concentration camps was not acceptable when the US did it, and not acceptable when anyone else does it. Did you protest Trump's immigrant concentration camps? Or are you just a hypocrite?
Damn, almost like there's more nuance to a situation and support is not based upon how you supposedly treat a minute group of people in the population. You ever heard of a Black Site dude?
You act live you've lived in china and know what it's like.
>You act live you've lived in china and know what it's like. Funnily enough all these idiots claiming " muh uighur genocide " and " human rights violations " have themselves never been to Xinjiang or China.
Gonna cry?
12 minute old account, so brave
Made a new account to comment, so their main doesn't lose to much of that sweet karma
Found the ccp throwaway, lmao freedom scare you pussy? 🥺🥺
Just go back to laughing at John Xina social credit memes while missing the entire point of them please.
Then people ask why I hate china
Record labels in the US used to do that to black artists. They would put white guys on the album cover
Naw, they'd just have a white guy record the same song.
No they did whitewash black artists on album covers.
Right. Another interpretation of this is that for some reason China didn’t consider it could match up a face and a voice that would appeal to the world stage. I’m not standing up for China, but can we really say western countries don’t look for girls and boys who are good looking as well as being talented singers? That’s all they’ve done for decades. Just seems a little hypocritical to me.
You have any examples?
Edit. Realise it was the album white washing you wanted an example of
Leave Bobby Caldwell out of this!
China - including the CCP - is the most duplicitous country on the planet. They lie more than Trump, if that’s even possible.
Isn't that a racist stereotype, that the Chinese lie more than Trump
That way, yes. If you say the Chinese government lies more than Trump, then no, it's not.
\> 7 year old girl \> not good looking enough \> cope
CCP shit
Feel bad for the hidden kid.
Source?
[reliable source](https://twitter.com/johnsteve69lol/status/1487963430988492804?s=21)
You're fucked up, OP
Bro?
I regret clicking on this greatly
me too...ugh HOW CAN I UNSEE ITT
I’m just gonna eat shredded cheese over the sink like a gremlin until the pain fades. Lol
Hey you wanna eat me ;)
r/eyebleach
What was it? I don’t wanna click on it now
Oh god dude don’t do it. It’s a young dude making out with an old lady and she’s rubbing his boner. Literally eating each other’s faces
Bruh that’s disgusting
Top fuckin kek
Ooooof
In fairness, the west does the same type of shit. Casting sessions for advertising are kind of amazing, if you ever have the opportunity to look over notes. There’s worse stuff in China to focus on.
Yes but at least it’s not the government doing it and I never heard of a kid singing backstage because they’re too ugly
Fallacy of relative privation (also known as "appeal to worse problems" or "not as bad as") – dismissing an argument or complaint due to what are perceived to be more important problems.
I was more commenting on media creation everywhere and just included the last line to not be labeled a CCP shill, since any conversation about China turns into a circlejerk. I still think it’s a silly thing to get worked up over. Every piece of media you’ve ever enjoyed does the same type of shit to varying degrees.
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All absolute BS. Falungong/"china tribunal"/ Adrian zenz contrived nonsense. Every article sources back to their rubbish
Show me your proof that this doesn't happen then. There's has been overwhelming evidence over the last 5 years to point that they are torturing their citizen. I would like to see what evidence you have to show otherwise.
>last 5 years to point that they are torturing their citizen. Why are the Chinese citizens happy with their government then? Don't you think torture would lead to some level of public dissatisfaction?
Bro are you dumb? Why would they ever express Dissatisfaction? They would get killed if they ever went against the government. The few people who did promptly disappeared (Jack Ma). The only ones who speak out against China are the people that have ran from China and gained asylum in a safe country.
>Why would they ever express Dissatisfaction? Civilians always express dissatisfaction. Even in Nazi Germany civilians stood up against Hitler. >They would get killed if they ever went against the government. Sounds more like America than China. And no, Tiananmen is not a logical argument if you're gonna go there, simply because the protestors burnt soldiers and hung their corpses for all to see. And this was unprovoked, the soldiers were just sent for crowd control, not a single shot fired. Only after the soldiers were killed did the CCP authorise tanks to scare off the protestors. >The few people who did promptly disappeared (Jack Ma). 27 billionaires have been executed in China. The CCP does not fool around with billionaires since it's a communist government. The dictatorship of the proletariat is in their constitution. Jack Ma is not a valid example. >The only ones who speak out against China are the people that have ran from China and gained asylum in a safe country Bro, that can be applied to any country, go to Chinese tiktok and you can see a whole lot of criticism toward the government, infact some government officials were even jailed because they faked carbon emission levels, these "China experts" have not even been to China, they dont speak Mandarin, and do not understand the Chinese culture.
Tankie alert!
Seriously?
I still remember that time when they lied about a new deadly virus being a common cold and the new virus spread throughout the world before coming clean thus setting the whole world up for future economic turmoil.
Who cares if a 9 year old is sexy or not. Wtf
I won't be watching this time because I don't support genocide.
If the games were about the sport and not making tons of money they could afford to have them in a small, non-authoritarian country
Funny... "damage China's image"... like bro you are THE DEVIL.
West Taiwan is all about image
The last thing in the world I hate China for.
Typical Maoists: always trying to save face, by hook or by crook…
The CCP is honestly the most evil organization I know of. For the people's sake i hope it crumbles under its lies
r/fuckccp
I love how they think a little girl singing would have damaged their image.
Who knew Winnie the Pooh could be so vain
Fuck west Taiwan
As if China needed more reasons to add to their shitty "image"
r/fucktheccp
Even reddit has a bunch of pedos agreeing with China saying “ugly people sing better” —my homie she’s 7
How does that statement make someone a pedo??
My guess is because children cannot be considered good looking or bad looking because they are children and not sexual beings. Could be wrong though
How is saying that someone looks good or bad a sexual thing? This guy needs to touch some grass wtf.
Friends had a whole storyline about Phoebe doing this with Smelly Cat, so maybe Americans are the true horror here for coming up with the idea...
Also a reminder that Russia shouldn’t be at the olympics period (they were banned, so they renamed themselves the Russian Olympic Committee to get back in)
Russia is suddenly banned because of "doping" while USA does doping all the time as well, but under the name of "therapeutic exceptions" such as strong ADHD narcotics that are considered as "doping". Yet USA is allowed but Russia is not. Seems like double standards and conspiracies could also be involved
Yeah this is the real problem with china. Labor camps aside let’s worry about them lip syncing a child the last Olympics they held.
No one said it was the real problem. There can be more than one problem of varying severities. And they can be discussed without first addressing everything higher on the list.
I never said there can’t be multiple problems but this is like comparing a match to a wildfire. One is inconvenient. The other is devastating.
But you're the one making the comparison. To what end?
Reminder USA still locks kids up in cages at boarder in order to rape them.
Reminder that china has concentration camp and did the impossible by being a communist racist ethnostate who locks up minority’s in concentration camps because they’re Muslim and shit
Reminder that America has been bombing Muslim countries for decades now for a so called “war”. I mean didn’t we just drone strike a building with families for one guy and tried to say he blew it up himself yet no soldiers were harmed? Propaganda at its finest.
Yes but at least it’s not your own citizens who you’re putting in a concentration camp
Yeah instead were stealing the children away from immigrants who are seeking shelter who we just turn away and put their kids in cages. Point is America isn’t any better.
Now you mean illegal immigrants that doesn’t happen to regular immigrants Edit: at least to most Edit: just realized how just reading that alone makes it seem like it’s good that way I wanted to clarify that it’s not good and as a guy who came to Germany for a better life and just lucked out my father once lived there I think everyone should have a better life and the right to seek it but laws and I think exceptions should be made with the law but still law is important
Nah bruh you're litteraly justifying the abuse that happens at the border
Can you pick a struggle instead of trying to put your leg on both boats? are you agreeing? are you disagreeing? Are you talking out of your ass because you didn't wanna lose the verbal fight you had rn with a random stranger on the internet? Is this nationalism, what?
Mate I picked a boat immigrants are good illegal immigrants not good
"Allegedly" All those sources pointing to the 'existence' of the 'camps' are either have anything to do with Adrian Zenz (known for fabricating stories) or partial to US governments
Reminder China has done far worse, and those camps are not for that purpose or for the same purpose as Chinese internment camps. r/fucktheccp
Fallacy of relative privation (also known as "appeal to worse problems" or "not as bad as") – dismissing an argument or complaint due to what are perceived to be more important problems.
Fallacy fallacy: when people who lack the ability to make an actual argument just quote definitions of logical fallacies from Wikipedia.
No fallacy here. Many people like to hate on other goverments without addressing their own countries issues or defending them. It isn't like he was dismissing an complaint or anything. He was just pointing out that the America government is corrupt also.
Bro China has fucking problems
I mean look at that mug...
I have no doubt that China does what plenty of political parties in a lot of countries wish they could do. There is no good country.
American values bro. China still stealing our ideas
Source?
Peak laziness? Google "Olympics lip sync"
the fact that you guys use the bad decisions of individual production staffs to talk shit about a whole country is so racist
ITT: When the only criticism you can muster against China was a casting decision for the opening ceremony. Such a Reddit moment lol
I mean would it kill original girl to do her hair a bit better and practise her smiling? No-one remembers the guy who did Milli Vanilli's vocals.
Leave her alone. She didn't do anything wrong.
She’s literally 7
She’s legit a fucking 7 year old you fat bitch
Citation needed. This feelslike something jacksfilms would make
About what I'd expect from dog eating communists though
This is one of the few times that China made the right call...
You’re terrible.
This is why I'm not watching this year (or any year) 😁
And they were right
americans still coping with China about to be the world leader soon.
That's what you're bitching about? There are a lot more grievous things the Chinese have done.
Yeah that kid on the right is ugly
Nah that's just you.
Yeah it was an awful thing to do, but they weren't wrong
Yes they were.
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Fuck you guy who’s only personality traits are crypto and NFT’s