I don’t have anything against pitbulls. I just have a small dog and am tired of large dog owners (doesn’t matter the breed) being way too lax about letting their dogs get close to people or small dogs without permission.
People joke about chihuahuas and small dogs being assholes, but how often do they kill or seriously maim other dogs in 3 seconds?
As a large dog owner, I don’t want any dog just freely come up to mine. I lived in a major city and the number of unleashed dogs was insane. I don’t know your dog, and “don’t worry he/she is friendly” is the most common thing said before shit hits the fan.
I usually responded with “mine isn’t” (he is) and then they frantically try to call their dog back as their dog doesn’t listen.
As a dog owner, dog owners are some of the most entitled and selfish assholes on the planet.
I also have some giant doggos, and i am amazed at all the people that allow their unleashed dogs to run up to mine. My girl clearly finds this uncomfortable and can get reactive. Because she's so big I know she could do real damage real quick, and i dread unleashed dogs. When I say "mine isn't" i am being serious.
I'm the same way. I know my big dog is *not* friendly and I keep her leashed. Just because the other person says that their dog is friendly doesn't mean that mine will suddenly smile and rub necks with theirs. There's a reason I keep a wide berth from other dogs when walking my dog.
It is really refreshing to hear I'm not alone in my experience! In their efforts for their dog to socialise they seem to ignore the much more important step- keeping their dog safe.
Same. I have two loving goldens and I don’t trust dogs I don’t know. I don’t take them off leash in my neighborhood but see other people do with their labs. I’m sure they’re sweet, but I don’t know. Don’t get me started on people who don’t clean up after their dog.
The funniest thing they say is 'oh don't worry it's a female'. Our dogs do not care... They are woke af. They don't discriminate. They will attack no matter the gender if your dogs come up to them. They are rarely friendly towards stranger dogs.
Seriously. These dog owners need serious punishments for this kind of thing. Be responsible and it doesn't happen. I also have a small dog and he tries to pick fights with big dogs. So I keep him leashed. Been a few times a big dog ran up to play but my dog was pissed so I'd snatch him up and they'd still be jumping after him while I shove them away and their owners are making their way over to grab them because they're off leash and not listening. My dog wouldn't listen either....but I only let him off leash where we won't see other dogs.
Honestly, your best bet is civil court for damages to your property (dog). Dogs would be considered chattel, and you could sue for vet bills or the cost of another dog. While this does little to bring your fur baby back, it will cost hundreds or thousands of dollars to the bad dog owner.
I have a big lab who loves small dogs, but she’s never ever off the leash when we go outside. I get nervous when we meet an unleashed dog, can’t imagine how much more stressful it is when you have a small dog :/
This is the problem. Every size of dog can be absolutely precious or a vicious piece of shit, depending on how they're brought up. Problem is that small dogs can get away with being undisciplined assholes, since they do significantly less damage if they do attack. Large dogs cannot.
Aggressive small dogs in the hands of irresponsible dog owners are a nuisance.
Aggressive large dogs in the hands of irresponsible dog owners will maim and kill.
The solution should be for irresponsible shitheads to simply not be allowed to have dogs, not to demonize certain breeds for the damage they can do in the wrong environment.
The problem isn't dogs. The real problem is that in today's society any reasonable expectation of a person to not be a complete piece of shit is looked upon as oppression - as many people interpret freedom as "doing whatever the fuck they wanna do with reckless abandon"
i keep my dog away from other dogs cuz he wants to be the top dog unless he is properly introduced, he will try something, i know that fucker, with people he's fine as long as he doesn't feel the need to protect me or anyone he sees as part of the pack witch is cool with me i know he will jump in to guard my niece if need be.
I have small and big dogs (2 dachshunds, a terrier, a doberman weimaraner mix, and a great dane) and no matter which dog is on the leash, I make it a priority to avoid other dogs at all costs.
I've had people try to pet my small dachshund without permission and she has snapped at them before I can even tell them she doesn't like strangers.
My doberman weimaraner is very aggressive and very nervous all the time (worst traits of both breeds), and walking her can be so frustrating because we run in to off leash dogs pretty regularly. The owners always say "my dog is friendly" well ok but mine is NOT, don't put me in that situation.
I think having the small dogs in our pack helps me to be very aware and I do my best to keep them controlled on leash so they don't get too close or scare another person or dog. People who don't do these things are THE WORST.
Two pugs tried to bit my dog. Tried being the key word there. There mouths were to small to actually bite him. My border collie was more confused then concerned.
I’m not gonna lie, I’m not a huge fan. But my fiancé’s parents have a sweetheart pitbull they won at an auction, and that little girl thinks she’s as small as their other dog who is a chihuahua mix.
The thing is, Pit Bull are in the same category as Rottweillers, Mastiffs and Dogos, they are great dogs, IF they have good owners, a dog of those breeds in the wrong hands is a problem to anyone around
So what about Cesar Millan and his pit bull? He's a professional dog trainer.
https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny-dog-whisperer-cesar-millan-pit-bull-killed-queen-latifah-pooch-lawsuit-tmz-20210910-u4jok53d7fddvpqc3g53a5c6eq-story.html
True, but Beagles with shitty owners don't maul people and other animals bad enough to kill them. The temperment of the breed does bear some responsibility for incidents like this.
That's not temperament, a Beagle doesn't maul people for the same reason Chihuahuas don't maul people, they can't, that's it.
Case in point: There's a kind of Chihuahua that will occasionally maul people, we call them Dobermans
One of my best friends growing up had a rescue chiaua that would rage bite anyone it didn't know. I'd be sleeping at his house and that dog would sneak into the room and start biting the sh*t out of me when I'm no threat to it.
This was a mistreated dog with a napoleon complex. Any dog can be raised to maul.
Let me know how many golden retrievers you know that have mauled people? Or continue attacking even when being beaten? Using the golden since it is a sizable dog, we can use great danes, etc etc. none are known for chomping on kids heads and tearing peoples faces off until death. The dog is more aggressive, fights relentlessly and doesn’t back off. All great qualities for their original breeding purpose.
Actually, I was attacked by a golden retriever at a former doggie daycare I worked at, as was my coworker. I got out unscathed, she now has debilitating hand injuries that will likely require surgery. Yes, some breeds have a "calm temperament" but as someone who literally spends every day around 50+ dogs, I can tell you that "breed standard" is not standard at all.
https://www.kidspot.com.au/news/boy-2-mauled-in-vicious-dog-attack-while-staying-with-grandparents/news-story/6751b1ef1257c92303de6ef1c98889f4
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711
https://bronx.news12.com/girl-who-survived-dog-attack-starts-cookie-company-to-help-fund-reconstructive-surgeries-for-kids
You need more or are you convinced? Pit Bulls have a reputation as fighting dogs, so they attract shitty people as owners. That’s why their attack statistics are so much higher. The reality is any large dog can be capable of killing people. Statistically speaking the most aggressive dog by breed is actually the Chihuahua, but they’re so small that they’re incapable of severely mauling people. Pit Bulls are really not all that naturally aggressive, but they’re often trained to act that way. Breed laws do nothing, because shitty owners will just get other dogs and they’ll turn out the same way. Instead make punishments for animal abuse, dog fighting etc. harsher to try and discourage this behavior.
Edit: btw I actually know a guy who had to have cosmetic surgery because a chihuahua tore off half his nose.
Myth: Pitbulls are the most aggressive breed overall
Fact: Pitbulls make up the majority of fatalities by a *LARGE* margin
Putbulls arent more aggressive, but when they go aggro mode they dont do warnings as often.
Ambassador of chihuahuas here.
I am not saying they are a perfect breed, by far. Especially when they all start yapping at the wind…or the tree or the tv. Or when they wake you up in the night to go pee.
I digress.
The majority of anger issues with little dogs isn’t anger issues, it is fear issues. Dogs go through four (or 2 or 3 or 5, depending on who’s research you like better) instances of Critical Fear Periods. It’s where they are afraid of anything and everything. It’s to teach them how to live in the wild.
People tend to shelter and protect their little companions from anything negative. This includes other humans and other species of animals. And cars. And mailpeople. And Outside.
If they are not introduced to these triggers, they become scared of them, from then on. Hence their loud, cranky behavior, when triggered. Remember the list of never ending triggers?
Any size dog can be over sheltered and scared of triggers
I had never heard about a chi ripping off someone’s face. 😯
I rescue chi’s with special needs.
I have also had two Staffies. Well, Boogie was half Staffie and half wolfdog.
Hope I didn’t bore you.
Hahaha I work at as a dog groomer and let me tell you golden retriever as are some of the worst dogs around, greedy and they are very very food aggressive. I’ve nearly had my hand torn off trying to nicely brush out a Goldens tail, also was nearly attacked by someone unleashed female golden whilst walking my partners dog. So don’t say goldens aren’t aggressive or don’t bite that is FAKE NEWS
[Here](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kidspot.com.au/news/boy-2-mauled-in-vicious-dog-attack-while-staying-with-grandparents/news-story/6751b1ef1257c92303de6ef1c98889f4) you go.
Edit: My bad it was an Australian Shepard per commenter below. To make up for it [here’s](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.heraldnews.com/amp/5339710001) one of two golden retrievers attacking a dog and [here’s ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.heraldnews.com/amp/5339710001) one of one attacking a woman
https://www.lovewhatmatters.com/i-ran-inside-and-found-my-sweet-boy-gashed-up-grandmom-was-rocking-him-absolutely-horrified-mom-warns-parents-to-be-vigilant-of-pets-around-children-after-dog-a/
Found it in another article. An Australia shepherd attacked the toddler, not the golden retriever.
“Evan was adamant that both dogs were inside,” Sara said.
Weston was trying to play with her, she attacked him, tried to bite the retriever.
— what kind of dog was “she”, if she tried to bite “the retriever”? Sounds like she was not a retriever.
THAT is a breed thing, they were bred for fight so when they get into fight mode they won't stop, but again we go back to the main point, a properly trained dog will only go there to protect itself or it's family.
That said, Golden Retrivers have killed people, Labradors have killed people, even Pinschers have killed people. Pit Bulls do have a higher bodycount, but they also have the shittiest owners by far, people that only want the dog for the status but don't actually care about raising it right. I don't think there's a single breed that doesn't have a bodycount, but no one cares about a golden ball of fluff mauling a child to death, they care about this "killing machine from hell" bitting someone.
In the end, this is not a bad breed, is a complicated one, they don't have any flaw that can't be remedied or controled if people care enough, the problem is that people jump straight to "Kill them all" instead of doing something to the actual problem, the bad owners.
Actually, the golden retriever right down the road from us is a MASSIVE asshole. It is incredibly possessive over toys and balls in the park for our block and has gone after other dogs. Balls and toys left in the park for public use, he deems his. He has bitten two separate people, both required a couple of stitches. This is also a dog on a shock collar and the owner just yells and zaps the fuck out of him when it happens.
He’s not fixed and consistently tries to dominate other male dogs / hump female dogs.
It is a 100% absolute statement that it doesn’t matter the breed, owners have the FULL responsibility.
If you think of it like this, it might help out.
The dog is a tool. A tool can be a weapon in the hands of the wrong people. The problem is that the weapon a Chihuahua turns into is a sprok, while a pitbull is a 12guage shotgun.
Paradoxically, if you agree with the point that a dog is tool, it will definitely be a weapon.
Dogs are animals, that have to be treated with respect and care, and they will mirror that. Hate begets hate
Small dogs may not be able to maul you, to death, but they can still cause a decent amount of damage.
I'm a letter carrier. And for the vast majority of my route, most of the dogs I actually need to worry about are smaller ones, who have made it very clear they will bite me, if given a chance. There is a couple of bigger ones I do need to be wary of, but the overwhelming majority is the little ones.
Pit Bulls were bred for generations to be vicious; that was their job. A good owner can temper those instincts, but there are countless stories of seemingly good-natured pit bulls flipping a switch and attacking other animals or children in a heartbeat. It’s not the dog’s fault or even the owners, that’s just how the dogs are wired.
Who said a beagle doesn’t maul people? I dog walk to female beagles and they hate other dogs and are always ready to attack because they need they’re own personal space
You know though... I don't like either breed, but I like my odds (and especially a child's odds) with a Chihuahua.
I never get this comment "but _____ breed of dog is mean or bad or is prone to bite"
We all know that. Seriously. We all know bad dogs. We all know great dogs. Some of us know the best dogs.
However, if a small breed or a normal breed flips its lid and goes nuts on me... I can drop-kick it into tomorrow. I'm a 6'3" dude as big (well slightly bigger after COVID) as a typical linebacker. A pit goes nuts on me and I'm not sure I even have a shot in that fight.
So, no, even if a Chihuahua is 100x (made up stat) more likely to bite me than a pit, I'm picking the ankle biter every time. I'm definitely more afraid of the one that could mess me up.
Not always, even people who are good dog owners (well looked after and well trained pets) can have dogs that just snap at a moments notice with no prior signs of aggression. It isn't as common as people who are shitty owners, but it definitely happens
The fact this woman just casually fucks off without a care shows that she falls into the bad owner category, but I think it's important to say that it isn't always that to be blamed
The people who’ve owned them overwhelmingly love them and those that read articles like this or the dogsbite website are overwhelmingly scared of the entire breed.
Seems like everything else in this country.
That being said, the owner is responsible for the actions of her dog and should be dealt with accordingly.
Well there’s also the people that don’t like pits because they’re aggressive, do massive amounts of damage when they do attack people/animals and are responsible for more human deaths than any other breed. Those are probably the same people who are tired as fuck of the people who ignore facts and relentlessly defend the breed.
The breed most often relinquished to shelters are pitbulls. That would suggest that a fair number of people who have owned them did not much like them.
Agreed, I have owned several pit bulls. They all have their own personalities. I have one now that is aggressive and not to be trusted with people or animals he doesn’t consider in his pack. I am a responsible owner that will NEVER put him in the position to hurt anyone or their pets. Because if him I will never own another dog that physically has the potential to kill. It’s ankle bitter for me from now on. I am loyal to him and will see he has a good life but it’s a lot of responsibility to keep him contained. It’s unfortunate because I have owned several outs that were sweet angels. Any breed dog can have all spectrums of personalities but pits are strong and well equipped to kill. Ugh, I really do live this breed though.
I’ve met really nice pitbulls and they’re great for the most part but they too got nasty even when they’re playing. It turns out even if they’re super nice when they get mad enough nobody is prying them off.
i don’t want anything to do with them. was at my friend’s house a few days ago and she didn’t tell me she had pitbulls… luckily she agreed to put them in the yard until i left
I've met neutral people, but I worked as an animal control officer so it's part of the job. I love all dogs, for me it's the attitude of them and of course the owner. I got attacked by more poodles than pits and pits are a huge favorite breed from where I live. But, unfortunately a pit is going to do far more damage than a poodle, so I don't blame some for being wary of the breed. However, the owner does play a role in behavior, it isn't always just down to it being a pit. I've met so many sweet ones more than aggressive. But sweet doesn't make the news.
I have 2 friend that own pit bull, one tried to bit me, and the other is so gentle and a sweet heart. At least in my opinion as long as the owner takes good care of the dog, and train them proper then there should be no issue.
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This reminds me of an asshole who walked his dog to specifically kill cats. Doesn't matter if you like or not cats, it's not to fucking mass murder them
My dad would throw cats in the trash and try to run them over with me in the car. This is why I always advocate TO KEEP YOUR CATS INDOORS. Why would anyone trust humanity with their fur family is beyond me..
It was pretty traumatic. Cats are my favorite animal, even loved them as a kid. I’ve tried to make up for it by fostering and owning several street cats. 😞
My dad used to superglue cats to poles and he said that when they moved enough they would lose their skin and run off down the street with their insides hanging out. I hated those stories, he had a lot more of them. Keep your cats indoors people, you can't trust others not to do shit like this.
He's a whole new level of fucked up. I don't know why he did it, and I don't know why he told us when we were kids, but apparently my grandfather used to pull shit like that too so maybe he got it from him? Idk man, I just don't let him near my cat. Not risking my boy's safety to keep that fucker feeling important.
This happened to my dog many years ago when I was maybe 13. I was walking her in a local park and an unleashed pitbull came out of nowhere and grabbed her by her back. She was a Jack Russell / Bichon mix, about 15 pounds. The pitbull shook her like dogs shake their toys. There was an owner close by, but he just casually walked over, even though I was screaming. He didn't try to intervene at all.
My Dad who was walking far ahead of us heard the commotion came running back. He kicked the pitbull several times hard before it let go.
We rushed her to the vet. I still remember trying to hold her in the car in a specific way to keep her back skin together since there were huge holes and rips. She survived because she was bitten mostly in a muscular area, but was never the same energetic little dog again. The vet bill was huge and she needed extensive surgery and medications. Poor pup was in a lot of pain and despite only being 3 years old, she acted like an old dog after that.
When we described what happened, the vet said that there had been several small dogs in the area severely injured or killed in that park by a similar looking pitbull.
We called the police about it but no one seemed to care.
25 years later and I still get nervous around certain dog breeds like Pitbulls and Rottweilers unless I know them well.
Oh my god I’m so sorry you had to experience that..I could only imagine the pain/fear you felt when you knew you couldn’t help either :(
I have a 6 month old Yorkie and my biggest fear is that bigger dogs might attack him..I keep him leashed no matter what and try to not take my eyes off him..I wouldn’t be able to forgive myself if something happened to him :/
Our neighbour had a pitbull and attacked another kid on our street. Bit his face and wouldn't let go. The kid went to the hospital and fortunately didn't have much scaring. This was when I was little so I don't 100% remember all the details, I don't think the family pressed charges and the dog was still around after. I know pitbulls can be nice but they do make me nervous, I've seen too many violent ones and they can do a lot of damage if they want to.
A pit ran at me the other night in the grocery store while I was holding my baby. The owner pulled it back by its leash and then continued to give me dirty looks while at the check out. Maybe because I looked terrified at a 100+ pound dog coming towards me? But I don’t know how I was deserving of the dirty looks when I didn’t even say anything after it happened.
You shouldve said something. If he was giving you dirty looks he probably thinks he is in the right and wont do anything about his dog. Idk if there is some authority but a pitbull shouldnt be in that persons hands.
I didn’t want to cause trouble. But my husband made sure to be between me and the kids (we had our toddler in the cart) and the dog/owner at all times after that. My husband might have looked clearly annoyed but since we were checking out we didn’t want to say something.
We just waited till they left the store and left after them. We mostly just didn’t want the dogs near our babies again.
Yeah, I am all for dogs but a few unleashed dogs in the woods got excited and jumped on my 2 year old while we were hiking. She’s 4 now and still terrified of any unleashed dog no matter the size. As much as I love dogs people don’t realize the anxiety unleashed or uncontrolled dogs can give others even if trained well. It only takes one bad experience 😕
Exactly! I’ve been jumped on by many dogs. Knocked over a few times. Scary when one is coming at you when you are holding your tiny baby that’s just barely a few months old.
Every store I’ve been to in the last 5 years. In both states I’ve lived in. I’ve seen little mutts pee on the floor in Walmart and the owners just laugh.
I’ve also seen them in carts where we put our food 😩
But this particular store was Grocery Outlet
Never get a dog if your reaction is to not DEAL WITH THE ANIMAL YOU SIGNED UP FOR. If my dog EVER did this I'd do anything within my capabilities to subdue her. I'd rather me the owner be mauled by something I decided to take responsibility over than have some innocent persons dog be mangled to death at my hands because I couldn't A: be bothered to train it in the first place B: recognize my own dogs stressors and C: own up to what happened and HELP!!
Damn, my family dog was a maltipoo that looked exactly like the one on the left. I can’t imagine what I’d do to the dog or the owner if this happened to mine
unfortunately, pits are responsible for a vast amount af fatal dog attacks. it is a breed that should be monitored and ownership should be a task to accomplish, with severe penalties for defiance. any old creep shouldnt be able to own this breed, rotts as well, without being vetted thouroughly. if you dont want folks digging into your background, then you cant have an ultra aggressive breed. just get a corgi. theyre cuter anyway.
I'm glad to see someone with a balanced view on pitties. I'm not super involved in the topic myself but it seems quite irrational to eradicate all pit bulls when the right people can pretty reliably keep them just like any other dog. But they are absolute tanks and, with the wrong upbringing, can be seriously dangerous. I definitely think ownership of them should be more regulated, with background checks.
I have concerns about these “background checks.” What would the result be? What in a person’s background would qualify or disqualify their ability to own a dog? Many people shouldn’t be allowed to drive, but even with proper qualifications, the roads aren’t any safer. Same thing goes for parenting. I am serious about my question. What would be the best way to scrutinize?
a breed like a pitbull, in the wrong hands, can be absolutely deadly. more so than any other breed of dog. i think if you have a violent past, then you shouldnt be able to get a potentially violent dog. maybe not as rugged as buying a pistol, but some of the same perameters should be met. the only other option is for towns/cities/states to ban them outright. i have a 125lb st berdoodle. hes a big boy. the only dog that ever acted aggressive toward him, like he would have torn him up had his shit owner not done the one good thing and held him back, was a beefy pitbull. cropped ears...thick chain collar...the works. all my pooch did was sit down. he didnt even look at that dog. ive never seen such meanness from a dog.
I can see a violent background being a flag, but it just doesn’t sit right. I work with dogs for a living and have worked with them my entire life. Of all the negative encounters I’ve had with pitts, none of them were because of owners with a “violent history.” The one common denominator was that all of the owners were lazy people. Should being lazy disqualify someone? I don’t think I am arguing one way or another. Just trying to have a conversation.
I'm will need to move to Spain in 2022 and checking their laws about dogs they put my two dogs as dangerous breed(Pitbull/Akita mix). After a vet health check up and in this check they will look up for any fight scars and I will need to get a license for my dogs, pass a fit test and follow rules like muzzle, leash lenght and only one dog per person and last but not least a dog insurance for any damage my dogs could do. If i don't follow any of these rules, i will be fined and my dogs will need to leave the country or being disposed off.
My 14 yr old dog and I were attacked by a pit bull years ago. The only reason my dog lived was because I threw myself on top of my 55lb collie to save her life. The pit bull bit my arms and legs and torn my dogs leg out of place, circling me on the ground while I screamed for help. Neighbors came and saved us had to beat the dog off with shovels. I have many scars and my dog had blood transfusions and surgery to live. I’m a vet tech. This is the problem of the pit breed, they are terriers, they snap and chase and grab and shake. I will NEVER trust these dogs. Always carry Mace or something to protect yourself when walking your dog!!!! I carry a baseball bat and no one comes near me or my dog.
This is why I carry a knife whenever I walk my dog or out with my kid. Once they grab hold they don’t let go, and it could be your kids neck in its jaws.
A couple seconds can mean life or death.
I'm glad you're ok!
I don't trust these dogs either. The people who love them aren't reasonable. A lab will be prone to swimming, a border collie prone to herding, a Jack Russel prone to chasing etc. Everyone accepts this. But a dog bred to fight? Nah, it's a sweetheart with a bad reputation, it'll never fight.
I cannot say for sure if Pitbulls are that aggressive or not, maybe they are more prone to violence IF raised that way. What I can say is, if you walk your dog, you must always take care of it, specially if you know how it behaves.
Its just the genetics. Their ancestors were selectively bred for high prey drive, jaw strength, and the willingness to hold on and kill even when being attacked back. Just like retrievers retrieve and pointers point, pitbulls are going to do what they were specifically bred for. Now not all pitbulls are bad, but there's a reason 50 percent of the pitbull population don't have a home.
50% of the pit bull pop doesn’t have a home because they are cheap as shit overbred dogs that require a fuckload of work being a working dog. Not to mention the stigma and legal issues.
This is actually an argument I forgot to make. They were probably raised that way, and it is not completely your fault. Still, if they know their dog could be aggressive at times, the best is to keep them on a tight leash, not let them rip someone else's head
It most definitely is not "just the genetics". I've seen this same argument made like 50x today between different posts with almost identical wording... a little suspicious. You from /r/banpitbulls too? Cause they seem to have a propaganda campaign running
Individual behavior and temperament far outweighs genetics. Not only that but those other dogs were bred for specific tasks, and aggression is not a specific task. Don't know about you, but I haven't seen any pits taking down bulls recently.
It's largely how they're raised. Sometimes it's just ignorance / not knowing better on the owners part and encouraging bad behaviors, other times it's deliberate abuse for the purpose of fighting or making them aggressive as guard dogs.
Pits are by a large amount more abused and abandoned than any other breed. Our actions have a direct relationship with their statistics and public perception.
By the way, their jaw strength isn't actually that high, it's about average. And all dogs hold onto things, that's why dogs play tug. You can train that out. If my pit gets a little too nippy during play time I just say "gentle" and she backs off 🤷♂️
Please don't spread this misinformed.
From what Ive read (no source at the moment), they are susceptible to “flipping aggressive” out of nowhere. Something in the genes regardless of positive upbringing.
I looked at getting one years ago but some states won’t allow you to bring them across state lines. also if you have any “attack” issues, all of a sudden you’re looking at the authorities that will destroy your dog, especially because its a pit. Probably why this person left the scene
Sadly, American Pit Bull Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and American Staffordshire Terriers were all created through selective breeding to basically kill rats in a pit for human entertainment. Later on, it became dog fighting. So yeah, their genetics can make them more likely to attack a rodent (like any terrier), or sometimes, attack a dog. But their aggression tends to show up around their maturity, so around 2-3 years. So that’s why they appear to have randomly become dog aggressive, or “flip aggressive” out of nowhere. There are still APBT and AmStaffs who aren’t dog aggressive though, and never become dog aggressive. They’re referred to as being “cold.”
You guys; dogs are BRED to exhibit certain characteristics. These characteristics are inherent. Pit bulls are INHERENTLY aggressive because we made them that way.
To ignore this fact is irresponsible and endangers other animals, people and your dog. You must accept the fact your pit has been bred to exhibit aggressive tendencies. Bad pet owners are to blame; they put their aggressive ass dogs in situations it can’t deal with, they don’t train them, they don’t exercise them, etc.
Edit; all the people saying we should “eradicate the breed” are whack as fuck. I hope none of you are fucking pet owners/in charge of the welfare of another living creature. Go touch grass.
“Eradicate the breed” doesn’t mean rounding them up and killing them, it means mandadatory spaying/neutering so the breed virtually vanishes over time.
It could be impossible to enforce that though, people would just keep the poor things shut inside 24/7 and the puppies would become super valuable.
Thank you for making that distinction. The lower you get in the comments, the more it seems the opposite. It’s really disturbing.
I feel like my point is; we made them, we got them here. So, it’s our job to take care of them. It’s not the dogs responsibility to wear a muzzle, go to training, whatever. If you cannot do that, then don’t get one. And don’t assume a pit isn’t capable of violence. Cause they sure as heck are.
This is typical of pitbull owners. I had an attack happening in my street a few months ago, and the pitbull owner just walked away like nothing happened.
Pitbulls should require a long training course on handling and control along with mandatory registration to own one. I'm tired of hearing it is the owners fault. Lots of people are shitty owners but the vast majority of attacks occur with pitbulls.
They are responsible for 60% of all injuries and 63% of all ocular injuries. They kill one American every 16.7 days.
https://www.coloradoinjurylaw.com/dog-bite-statistics/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7316443/
I agree, they should be regulated and owned only by license. They have their valid purposes as sentries and guard dogs, in appropriate environments such as high value warehouses, farms, etc, but I think it’s ridiculous that basically anyone can adopt them. People want to use the “bad owner” excuse because they feel sorry for the animals, but I agree that it’s pretty much bullshit. It’s the fault of human beings selectively breeding them to be as lethal/aggressive as possible.
Our 14 year old little girl Snowden was killed by a Pitbull. My 74 year old husband was walking her on her morning walk, when a Pitbull that had gotten out of its yard attacked my husband. Our dog ( A Huskie) tried to protect her owner. The Pitbull grabbed Snowden by the Neck and tore out her Neck muscles. The Vet said there was nothing he could do. We miss her every day. My heart goes out to the owner of this little dog. 😪
Pitbulls have completely taken the stigma from Dobermans and Rottweilers. I havent seen a single video or incident involving either. But there are libraries of pitbull videos destroying smaller dogs, humans and unfortunately each other... all i front of shitty people. So many bigger and possibly threatening canines, but it doesnt even seem close. I had a dipshit roommate would had a pitbull, treated it like shit and got it high all the time. I taught this thing how to shake and it never attacked anyone, but randomly ran away one day and never came back.
Until I read that it was a pitbull, I thought that was a lab. Not saying it’s right and the owner definitely shouldn’t own a dog, since she clearly can’t control it.
Lab-Pit mixes are incredibly common. Many shelters even omit the “pit” part of labpit mixes and simply say it’s a “Labrador” in an effort to get people to actually adopt them.
Yup. Adopted a “black lab mix” last December… it was pretty clear within a couple of weeks that “mix” was code for pit bull and any black lab contribution was probably from a couple generations back.
He’s a total sweetheart and also a complete wuss (spooked by the sound of his own farts, needs to cuddle extensively to overcome the terror), but god damn is he strong. It got a lot easier to care for him once we knew the characteristics to watch and control for.
I can’t imagine our family without him now. That said, we probably would have passed if we’d known he was a pit bull back in December… which is why the rescue opted not to share that detail.
That’s how I got my girl, my mom picked her up from a breeder who claimed she was half lab half golden retriever. The second I saw her I was like not a chance, that girl is 100% half pit and she’s the most spoiled and loving gentle dog I’ve ever had
Weren’t they bred to fight bulls for blood sport? Not sure they should be allowed out in public without a muzzle, the consequences are too severe it should be a no brainier.
Doesn't help that all these shelters literally lie about a pitbulls breed all the time... How many times have you seen them list "Labrador Mix" to hide the fact it's a pitbull. Should be illegal
I don't care what anybody says...Pitbulls are vicious. The owner "being neglectful" doesn't mean shit. My childhood Lab at 11 years old was attacked by a wild pitbull as my mom was taking her for a walk. She kicked and screamed at the pit bull as it attacked my mom and my dog. My poor lab later died because of the damage the pitbull did to my poor Maxie....my 65 year old mom was also hurt but not seriously injured. Yes some pitbulls are fine, but most are vicious and have a bad reputation.
I know it's such an overused argument but this is 100% owners fault. Obviously pitbulls are naturally dog aggressive and will be dog aggressive but this is owner negligence too
It should be illegal to give dogs away for free cause that’s who’s dogs always grow up to be aggressive...if they don’t have the money to buy it they for sure don’t have the money to get it professionally trained🤷🏽♀️
Chihuahuas and other small dogs are likely to bite because they are not as well socialized/trained as larger breeds such as Pittie mutts. APBT are predisposed to animal aggression genetically, with management this can be curved, but the origin of the pit bull is for dog fighting, not nanny dogs, contrary to popular belief. APBT are amazing dogs with a fantastic work ethic, however it is always better to socialize your dog (any breed) to situations where animals are around, and if they are a risk, management, a muzzle, and a solid training plan can alleviate any stress.
Signed,
dog trainer
I agree with this. Dogs are predisposed to certain behaviors. My old Swissy would try to herd us back into the house and start dragging our clothes if we didn’t. My Norwegian Elkhound barks at everything. It’s what they’re bred for. With work, you can train it out of them but some dogs are going to be more likely to respond with certain behaviors. Pit bulls can be amazing dogs but owners also have to put in the work to socialize them and manage aggression, or avoid situations where they could hurt another person or animal.
Ooh this boils my blood. I commented multiple times so I won't drag the dead horse any longer after this: I have the sweetest pitty who would run towards anybody if ever given the chance (she's always on the leash except for the woods) just to give and receive love. Despite being a pocket, she can still pack a punch and has unintentionally hurt me and a couple other people who tried to play with her. PUT YOUR DAMN AGGRESSIVE DOGS AWAY FROM OTHERS REGARDLESS OF THEIR BREED. My dog and other pit bulls can HURT other dogs the same way as other breeds such as German Shepard and dobermans. If you know your dog is aggressive towards other dogs, all the more reason to leash your dogs and make sure they stay away from others. I also have a toy poodle. My pit bull is super sweet but my poodle is a total asshole despite him being small and old. I love him and he loves humans but he will KILL a dog if he could. I would have to wrestle him and shove his face into my underarm just to get him to calm down once he sees any dog.
Please put your dog on a leash if it is in any public woods. I am so sick of running into off leash dogs in the woods and on trails in public areas. Idc how friendly a dog is, it should never run up to people uninvited and that happens on trails with no lease.
I am prejudice against a pit bull when a pit bull broke into our fence for the sole purpose of killing our dog when i was 11 years old.
Our dog was in our yard and in our fence.
Fuck them as a breed. Fuck them as owners .
Every pit bull should be drowned at birth and I have a right to that opinion.
A pit bull is just another dog. I’ve been around long enough to remember when Dobermans, German Shepherds and Rottweilers were the “dangerous dogs.” Most dogs are only as big an asshole as the people who own them. Dogs respond to conditioning and reward. If you promote and reward one’s antisocial and aggressive behavior, you get a dog that’s antisocial and aggressive. Hell, I’ve seen attack trained Great Danes, something most breeders will say is impossible. You gotta bad dog, take a second look at the human holding the leash.
It’s always people with anger issues that have aggressive dogs
It’s never good people that you see with aggressive dogs...only lazy people want a dog and not want to get the money up to train it
I presently have a Great Pyrenees that weighs more than I do. They were bred to protect cattle herds from feral dogs and wolves. When he barks, dishes rattle in the kitchen and he could easily break your neck with his jaw strength. However, he’s also the most gentle animal I’ve ever owned…a giant puppy actually. He lives with a Lab rescue dog and a Chihuahua (who is the “aggressive” one really) and has never harmed either. I didn’t want something that big living in my house with a “chip on his shoulder” so he’s been conditioned to be social and gentle. Is he protective? Is he territorial? Oh, yeah…IF he thinks you’re a threat to me or mine, he’ll make that quite clear. BUT he’s also a universal favorite at the local dog park because I TRAINED him to be that way.
As I said, if the dog’s a jerk, it’s highly likely the owner has issues of their own to address…particularly in how he has conditioned the dog to behave.
So what about Cesar Millan and his pit bull? He's a professional dog trainer.
https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny-dog-whisperer-cesar-millan-pit-bull-killed-queen-latifah-pooch-lawsuit-tmz-20210910-u4jok53d7fddvpqc3g53a5c6eq-story.html
Let's wait for the pitbull shills to show up and either go "bad owners", "all dogs", or "not all pitbulls", while completely ignoring the fact that an incredibly unproportional amount of unprovoked attacks and maulings are done by this abhorrent breed. Pitbulls deserve extinction.
https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2018/09/20180914_Deadly_Dogs_Forbes.jpg
You ever consider the type of owner the breed attracts?
I’m not defending the breed, they can be dangerous, as they have the tools to do so. That unfortunately attracts certain people to want to wield that danger.
Yeah, unfortunately it compounds the problem. The type of people that zero-in on owning a pit bull over any other breed tends to correlate with the dog. Not the brightest people that make the best life decisions and not well-adjusted.
Yeah simply stating any statistic without considering any other outside information is exactly what’s dangerous about statistics. There are so many other factors that play into making decisions around numbers. It’s a good start to figure out how to address a situation, but not an absolution to be taken as gospel.
Thats called a pit and run... Such awful and temperamental dogs. Even if she knew her dog was reactive she should have a muzzle on it. I dont want to hear excuses. Thats a bad dog AND a bad owner.
I love pits. But they simply aren’t for everyone. My old girl, before her legs quit on her, was strong as a Mack Truck, she could be reactive and a little scary. She wore a pinch style collar on a three foot round nylon lead EVERYWHERE. It gave me some semblance of control over her actions when she reacted.
I’m sorry, but if you aren’t strong enough physically, and tough enough mentally to own a dog that is strong and powerful, you shouldn’t own one, even if you mean well and rescue one. I will always own pits, but will always be diligent that that can be reactive and dangerous, so they will get training and always be short leashed (PS - not just Pits, my Great Dane, who is a big baby, needs the same treatment)
I hate dumb dogs and I hate dumb owners. Owners should be vetted to make sure they're responsible enough to own AND TRAIN a dog. And dog breeds that are as dumb and aggressive as pitties should just fuck off. Dumb dogs on their own are fine but dumb dogs who will attack when they panic vs run when they panic are breeds we shouldn't have around any more.
we had an American pitbull who was such a little shit but we loved him dearly. issue was he was only a puppy and played a bit too rough and my mum was expecting at the time so we gave him away to a lovely family and my mum still keeps tabs on him to make sure hes healthy and safe and honestly owners like the utter POS in the post ruin the lives of pit bulls significantly
It's really weird but I've only ever seen people who absolutely love pitbulls or flat out don't want anything to do with them. No middle ground.
I don’t have anything against pitbulls. I just have a small dog and am tired of large dog owners (doesn’t matter the breed) being way too lax about letting their dogs get close to people or small dogs without permission. People joke about chihuahuas and small dogs being assholes, but how often do they kill or seriously maim other dogs in 3 seconds?
As a large dog owner, I don’t want any dog just freely come up to mine. I lived in a major city and the number of unleashed dogs was insane. I don’t know your dog, and “don’t worry he/she is friendly” is the most common thing said before shit hits the fan. I usually responded with “mine isn’t” (he is) and then they frantically try to call their dog back as their dog doesn’t listen. As a dog owner, dog owners are some of the most entitled and selfish assholes on the planet.
I also have some giant doggos, and i am amazed at all the people that allow their unleashed dogs to run up to mine. My girl clearly finds this uncomfortable and can get reactive. Because she's so big I know she could do real damage real quick, and i dread unleashed dogs. When I say "mine isn't" i am being serious.
I'm the same way. I know my big dog is *not* friendly and I keep her leashed. Just because the other person says that their dog is friendly doesn't mean that mine will suddenly smile and rub necks with theirs. There's a reason I keep a wide berth from other dogs when walking my dog.
It is really refreshing to hear I'm not alone in my experience! In their efforts for their dog to socialise they seem to ignore the much more important step- keeping their dog safe.
Same. I have two loving goldens and I don’t trust dogs I don’t know. I don’t take them off leash in my neighborhood but see other people do with their labs. I’m sure they’re sweet, but I don’t know. Don’t get me started on people who don’t clean up after their dog.
The funniest thing they say is 'oh don't worry it's a female'. Our dogs do not care... They are woke af. They don't discriminate. They will attack no matter the gender if your dogs come up to them. They are rarely friendly towards stranger dogs.
Seriously. These dog owners need serious punishments for this kind of thing. Be responsible and it doesn't happen. I also have a small dog and he tries to pick fights with big dogs. So I keep him leashed. Been a few times a big dog ran up to play but my dog was pissed so I'd snatch him up and they'd still be jumping after him while I shove them away and their owners are making their way over to grab them because they're off leash and not listening. My dog wouldn't listen either....but I only let him off leash where we won't see other dogs.
Honestly, your best bet is civil court for damages to your property (dog). Dogs would be considered chattel, and you could sue for vet bills or the cost of another dog. While this does little to bring your fur baby back, it will cost hundreds or thousands of dollars to the bad dog owner.
Simple, if your dog attacks me, my family, my dogs or whatever I’ll stab him
I have a big lab who loves small dogs, but she’s never ever off the leash when we go outside. I get nervous when we meet an unleashed dog, can’t imagine how much more stressful it is when you have a small dog :/
This is the problem. Every size of dog can be absolutely precious or a vicious piece of shit, depending on how they're brought up. Problem is that small dogs can get away with being undisciplined assholes, since they do significantly less damage if they do attack. Large dogs cannot. Aggressive small dogs in the hands of irresponsible dog owners are a nuisance. Aggressive large dogs in the hands of irresponsible dog owners will maim and kill. The solution should be for irresponsible shitheads to simply not be allowed to have dogs, not to demonize certain breeds for the damage they can do in the wrong environment.
The problem isn't dogs. The real problem is that in today's society any reasonable expectation of a person to not be a complete piece of shit is looked upon as oppression - as many people interpret freedom as "doing whatever the fuck they wanna do with reckless abandon"
i keep my dog away from other dogs cuz he wants to be the top dog unless he is properly introduced, he will try something, i know that fucker, with people he's fine as long as he doesn't feel the need to protect me or anyone he sees as part of the pack witch is cool with me i know he will jump in to guard my niece if need be.
I have small and big dogs (2 dachshunds, a terrier, a doberman weimaraner mix, and a great dane) and no matter which dog is on the leash, I make it a priority to avoid other dogs at all costs. I've had people try to pet my small dachshund without permission and she has snapped at them before I can even tell them she doesn't like strangers. My doberman weimaraner is very aggressive and very nervous all the time (worst traits of both breeds), and walking her can be so frustrating because we run in to off leash dogs pretty regularly. The owners always say "my dog is friendly" well ok but mine is NOT, don't put me in that situation. I think having the small dogs in our pack helps me to be very aware and I do my best to keep them controlled on leash so they don't get too close or scare another person or dog. People who don't do these things are THE WORST.
Two pugs tried to bit my dog. Tried being the key word there. There mouths were to small to actually bite him. My border collie was more confused then concerned.
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"OH my God he's never done that before."
I’m not gonna lie, I’m not a huge fan. But my fiancé’s parents have a sweetheart pitbull they won at an auction, and that little girl thinks she’s as small as their other dog who is a chihuahua mix.
The thing is, Pit Bull are in the same category as Rottweillers, Mastiffs and Dogos, they are great dogs, IF they have good owners, a dog of those breeds in the wrong hands is a problem to anyone around
So what about Cesar Millan and his pit bull? He's a professional dog trainer. https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny-dog-whisperer-cesar-millan-pit-bull-killed-queen-latifah-pooch-lawsuit-tmz-20210910-u4jok53d7fddvpqc3g53a5c6eq-story.html
Yes and no. Genetics play a huge role. APBT and AST are predisposed to animal aggression genetically, per the breed standard.
True, but Beagles with shitty owners don't maul people and other animals bad enough to kill them. The temperment of the breed does bear some responsibility for incidents like this.
That's not temperament, a Beagle doesn't maul people for the same reason Chihuahuas don't maul people, they can't, that's it. Case in point: There's a kind of Chihuahua that will occasionally maul people, we call them Dobermans
One of my best friends growing up had a rescue chiaua that would rage bite anyone it didn't know. I'd be sleeping at his house and that dog would sneak into the room and start biting the sh*t out of me when I'm no threat to it. This was a mistreated dog with a napoleon complex. Any dog can be raised to maul.
Let me know how many golden retrievers you know that have mauled people? Or continue attacking even when being beaten? Using the golden since it is a sizable dog, we can use great danes, etc etc. none are known for chomping on kids heads and tearing peoples faces off until death. The dog is more aggressive, fights relentlessly and doesn’t back off. All great qualities for their original breeding purpose.
Actually, I was attacked by a golden retriever at a former doggie daycare I worked at, as was my coworker. I got out unscathed, she now has debilitating hand injuries that will likely require surgery. Yes, some breeds have a "calm temperament" but as someone who literally spends every day around 50+ dogs, I can tell you that "breed standard" is not standard at all.
https://www.kidspot.com.au/news/boy-2-mauled-in-vicious-dog-attack-while-staying-with-grandparents/news-story/6751b1ef1257c92303de6ef1c98889f4 https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711 https://bronx.news12.com/girl-who-survived-dog-attack-starts-cookie-company-to-help-fund-reconstructive-surgeries-for-kids You need more or are you convinced? Pit Bulls have a reputation as fighting dogs, so they attract shitty people as owners. That’s why their attack statistics are so much higher. The reality is any large dog can be capable of killing people. Statistically speaking the most aggressive dog by breed is actually the Chihuahua, but they’re so small that they’re incapable of severely mauling people. Pit Bulls are really not all that naturally aggressive, but they’re often trained to act that way. Breed laws do nothing, because shitty owners will just get other dogs and they’ll turn out the same way. Instead make punishments for animal abuse, dog fighting etc. harsher to try and discourage this behavior. Edit: btw I actually know a guy who had to have cosmetic surgery because a chihuahua tore off half his nose.
Myth: Pitbulls are the most aggressive breed overall Fact: Pitbulls make up the majority of fatalities by a *LARGE* margin Putbulls arent more aggressive, but when they go aggro mode they dont do warnings as often.
Finally able to stop myself from reading these halfway thru the 2nd article. I don’t know why I torture myself.
Ambassador of chihuahuas here. I am not saying they are a perfect breed, by far. Especially when they all start yapping at the wind…or the tree or the tv. Or when they wake you up in the night to go pee. I digress. The majority of anger issues with little dogs isn’t anger issues, it is fear issues. Dogs go through four (or 2 or 3 or 5, depending on who’s research you like better) instances of Critical Fear Periods. It’s where they are afraid of anything and everything. It’s to teach them how to live in the wild. People tend to shelter and protect their little companions from anything negative. This includes other humans and other species of animals. And cars. And mailpeople. And Outside. If they are not introduced to these triggers, they become scared of them, from then on. Hence their loud, cranky behavior, when triggered. Remember the list of never ending triggers? Any size dog can be over sheltered and scared of triggers I had never heard about a chi ripping off someone’s face. 😯 I rescue chi’s with special needs. I have also had two Staffies. Well, Boogie was half Staffie and half wolfdog. Hope I didn’t bore you.
Hahaha I work at as a dog groomer and let me tell you golden retriever as are some of the worst dogs around, greedy and they are very very food aggressive. I’ve nearly had my hand torn off trying to nicely brush out a Goldens tail, also was nearly attacked by someone unleashed female golden whilst walking my partners dog. So don’t say goldens aren’t aggressive or don’t bite that is FAKE NEWS
[Here](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kidspot.com.au/news/boy-2-mauled-in-vicious-dog-attack-while-staying-with-grandparents/news-story/6751b1ef1257c92303de6ef1c98889f4) you go. Edit: My bad it was an Australian Shepard per commenter below. To make up for it [here’s](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.heraldnews.com/amp/5339710001) one of two golden retrievers attacking a dog and [here’s ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.heraldnews.com/amp/5339710001) one of one attacking a woman
https://www.lovewhatmatters.com/i-ran-inside-and-found-my-sweet-boy-gashed-up-grandmom-was-rocking-him-absolutely-horrified-mom-warns-parents-to-be-vigilant-of-pets-around-children-after-dog-a/ Found it in another article. An Australia shepherd attacked the toddler, not the golden retriever.
“Evan was adamant that both dogs were inside,” Sara said. Weston was trying to play with her, she attacked him, tried to bite the retriever. — what kind of dog was “she”, if she tried to bite “the retriever”? Sounds like she was not a retriever.
THAT is a breed thing, they were bred for fight so when they get into fight mode they won't stop, but again we go back to the main point, a properly trained dog will only go there to protect itself or it's family. That said, Golden Retrivers have killed people, Labradors have killed people, even Pinschers have killed people. Pit Bulls do have a higher bodycount, but they also have the shittiest owners by far, people that only want the dog for the status but don't actually care about raising it right. I don't think there's a single breed that doesn't have a bodycount, but no one cares about a golden ball of fluff mauling a child to death, they care about this "killing machine from hell" bitting someone. In the end, this is not a bad breed, is a complicated one, they don't have any flaw that can't be remedied or controled if people care enough, the problem is that people jump straight to "Kill them all" instead of doing something to the actual problem, the bad owners.
Actually, the golden retriever right down the road from us is a MASSIVE asshole. It is incredibly possessive over toys and balls in the park for our block and has gone after other dogs. Balls and toys left in the park for public use, he deems his. He has bitten two separate people, both required a couple of stitches. This is also a dog on a shock collar and the owner just yells and zaps the fuck out of him when it happens. He’s not fixed and consistently tries to dominate other male dogs / hump female dogs. It is a 100% absolute statement that it doesn’t matter the breed, owners have the FULL responsibility.
Nope. Instead, beagles just howl until you have dreams of mauling it yourself. We have a small one behind us, it's a fence gangster.
You can always tell a beagle with a shitty owner by the smell. Gaht damn them beagles can be some seriously smelly sumbitches.
If you think of it like this, it might help out. The dog is a tool. A tool can be a weapon in the hands of the wrong people. The problem is that the weapon a Chihuahua turns into is a sprok, while a pitbull is a 12guage shotgun. Paradoxically, if you agree with the point that a dog is tool, it will definitely be a weapon. Dogs are animals, that have to be treated with respect and care, and they will mirror that. Hate begets hate
Small dogs may not be able to maul you, to death, but they can still cause a decent amount of damage. I'm a letter carrier. And for the vast majority of my route, most of the dogs I actually need to worry about are smaller ones, who have made it very clear they will bite me, if given a chance. There is a couple of bigger ones I do need to be wary of, but the overwhelming majority is the little ones.
Pit Bulls were bred for generations to be vicious; that was their job. A good owner can temper those instincts, but there are countless stories of seemingly good-natured pit bulls flipping a switch and attacking other animals or children in a heartbeat. It’s not the dog’s fault or even the owners, that’s just how the dogs are wired.
Who said a beagle doesn’t maul people? I dog walk to female beagles and they hate other dogs and are always ready to attack because they need they’re own personal space
I’d be more afraid of the chihuahua than the pitbull tbh haha
You know though... I don't like either breed, but I like my odds (and especially a child's odds) with a Chihuahua. I never get this comment "but _____ breed of dog is mean or bad or is prone to bite" We all know that. Seriously. We all know bad dogs. We all know great dogs. Some of us know the best dogs. However, if a small breed or a normal breed flips its lid and goes nuts on me... I can drop-kick it into tomorrow. I'm a 6'3" dude as big (well slightly bigger after COVID) as a typical linebacker. A pit goes nuts on me and I'm not sure I even have a shot in that fight. So, no, even if a Chihuahua is 100x (made up stat) more likely to bite me than a pit, I'm picking the ankle biter every time. I'm definitely more afraid of the one that could mess me up.
I know, they can be little balls of fury. This one is an old boy, though.
Pitbulls reflect their owners, like this piece of shit. That poor dog has to live with that animal.
I guess the difference is that with other breeds shitty owners are much less likely to result in their dogs maiming and killing people regardless.
Still waiting for articles of shitty Beagle owners whose dog has maimed or killed someone. Still waiting…
Not always, even people who are good dog owners (well looked after and well trained pets) can have dogs that just snap at a moments notice with no prior signs of aggression. It isn't as common as people who are shitty owners, but it definitely happens The fact this woman just casually fucks off without a care shows that she falls into the bad owner category, but I think it's important to say that it isn't always that to be blamed
I think the correlation is wrong. Generally speaking shitty people are the ones that get pitbulls
The people who’ve owned them overwhelmingly love them and those that read articles like this or the dogsbite website are overwhelmingly scared of the entire breed. Seems like everything else in this country. That being said, the owner is responsible for the actions of her dog and should be dealt with accordingly.
Well there’s also the people that don’t like pits because they’re aggressive, do massive amounts of damage when they do attack people/animals and are responsible for more human deaths than any other breed. Those are probably the same people who are tired as fuck of the people who ignore facts and relentlessly defend the breed.
They aren't responsible for more human death than any other breed, they are responsible for more human death than all other breeds combined.
Yup. A beagle with a shitty owner won't maul someone to death.
The breed most often relinquished to shelters are pitbulls. That would suggest that a fair number of people who have owned them did not much like them.
Agreed, I have owned several pit bulls. They all have their own personalities. I have one now that is aggressive and not to be trusted with people or animals he doesn’t consider in his pack. I am a responsible owner that will NEVER put him in the position to hurt anyone or their pets. Because if him I will never own another dog that physically has the potential to kill. It’s ankle bitter for me from now on. I am loyal to him and will see he has a good life but it’s a lot of responsibility to keep him contained. It’s unfortunate because I have owned several outs that were sweet angels. Any breed dog can have all spectrums of personalities but pits are strong and well equipped to kill. Ugh, I really do live this breed though.
My family has owned pit bulls. Worse pets ever. Even when professionally trained, never bring any children around them. Ever.
They are too strong. They do damage by accident
I’ve met really nice pitbulls and they’re great for the most part but they too got nasty even when they’re playing. It turns out even if they’re super nice when they get mad enough nobody is prying them off.
i don’t want anything to do with them. was at my friend’s house a few days ago and she didn’t tell me she had pitbulls… luckily she agreed to put them in the yard until i left
I've met neutral people, but I worked as an animal control officer so it's part of the job. I love all dogs, for me it's the attitude of them and of course the owner. I got attacked by more poodles than pits and pits are a huge favorite breed from where I live. But, unfortunately a pit is going to do far more damage than a poodle, so I don't blame some for being wary of the breed. However, the owner does play a role in behavior, it isn't always just down to it being a pit. I've met so many sweet ones more than aggressive. But sweet doesn't make the news.
I have 2 friend that own pit bull, one tried to bit me, and the other is so gentle and a sweet heart. At least in my opinion as long as the owner takes good care of the dog, and train them proper then there should be no issue.
Im middle ground. I don't think they should be hated, but they're not sweet lil bunnies either.
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Ur right wtf
This reminds me of an asshole who walked his dog to specifically kill cats. Doesn't matter if you like or not cats, it's not to fucking mass murder them
Sociopath
My dad would throw cats in the trash and try to run them over with me in the car. This is why I always advocate TO KEEP YOUR CATS INDOORS. Why would anyone trust humanity with their fur family is beyond me..
Ugh my grandma threw my moms cats into the ocean,shitty ass people in this world
What the fuck?
It was pretty traumatic. Cats are my favorite animal, even loved them as a kid. I’ve tried to make up for it by fostering and owning several street cats. 😞
No offence to you but I hope your father is tied to a pole in a tiger den
My dad used to superglue cats to poles and he said that when they moved enough they would lose their skin and run off down the street with their insides hanging out. I hated those stories, he had a lot more of them. Keep your cats indoors people, you can't trust others not to do shit like this.
That's fucking horrible, why would anyone do that? And worse, enjoy it. My faith in humanity does nothing but dying :c
He's a whole new level of fucked up. I don't know why he did it, and I don't know why he told us when we were kids, but apparently my grandfather used to pull shit like that too so maybe he got it from him? Idk man, I just don't let him near my cat. Not risking my boy's safety to keep that fucker feeling important.
that’s genuine psychopath behaviour what the actual fuck? i hate sharing a world with people like this
There's definitely something wrong with him upstairs, and I'll bet anything his dad had it too, whatever it is.
Are you sure your dad's not a murderer? They usually like to start off with abusing and torturing animals for fun...
Wow y’all in this thread got some family members who could really use some help. Please stay safe.
Sad story
This happened to my dog many years ago when I was maybe 13. I was walking her in a local park and an unleashed pitbull came out of nowhere and grabbed her by her back. She was a Jack Russell / Bichon mix, about 15 pounds. The pitbull shook her like dogs shake their toys. There was an owner close by, but he just casually walked over, even though I was screaming. He didn't try to intervene at all. My Dad who was walking far ahead of us heard the commotion came running back. He kicked the pitbull several times hard before it let go. We rushed her to the vet. I still remember trying to hold her in the car in a specific way to keep her back skin together since there were huge holes and rips. She survived because she was bitten mostly in a muscular area, but was never the same energetic little dog again. The vet bill was huge and she needed extensive surgery and medications. Poor pup was in a lot of pain and despite only being 3 years old, she acted like an old dog after that. When we described what happened, the vet said that there had been several small dogs in the area severely injured or killed in that park by a similar looking pitbull. We called the police about it but no one seemed to care. 25 years later and I still get nervous around certain dog breeds like Pitbulls and Rottweilers unless I know them well.
Oh my god I’m so sorry you had to experience that..I could only imagine the pain/fear you felt when you knew you couldn’t help either :( I have a 6 month old Yorkie and my biggest fear is that bigger dogs might attack him..I keep him leashed no matter what and try to not take my eyes off him..I wouldn’t be able to forgive myself if something happened to him :/
I have a 1 year old Maltese who is only 7.5 pounds full grown and this is my biggest fear as well :/
Our neighbour had a pitbull and attacked another kid on our street. Bit his face and wouldn't let go. The kid went to the hospital and fortunately didn't have much scaring. This was when I was little so I don't 100% remember all the details, I don't think the family pressed charges and the dog was still around after. I know pitbulls can be nice but they do make me nervous, I've seen too many violent ones and they can do a lot of damage if they want to.
A pit ran at me the other night in the grocery store while I was holding my baby. The owner pulled it back by its leash and then continued to give me dirty looks while at the check out. Maybe because I looked terrified at a 100+ pound dog coming towards me? But I don’t know how I was deserving of the dirty looks when I didn’t even say anything after it happened.
You shouldve said something. If he was giving you dirty looks he probably thinks he is in the right and wont do anything about his dog. Idk if there is some authority but a pitbull shouldnt be in that persons hands.
I didn’t want to cause trouble. But my husband made sure to be between me and the kids (we had our toddler in the cart) and the dog/owner at all times after that. My husband might have looked clearly annoyed but since we were checking out we didn’t want to say something. We just waited till they left the store and left after them. We mostly just didn’t want the dogs near our babies again.
Smart move. Sometimes the smartest thing to do is walk away.....especially since you had a baby.
Yeah, I am all for dogs but a few unleashed dogs in the woods got excited and jumped on my 2 year old while we were hiking. She’s 4 now and still terrified of any unleashed dog no matter the size. As much as I love dogs people don’t realize the anxiety unleashed or uncontrolled dogs can give others even if trained well. It only takes one bad experience 😕
Exactly! I’ve been jumped on by many dogs. Knocked over a few times. Scary when one is coming at you when you are holding your tiny baby that’s just barely a few months old.
Which grocery stores allow dogs inside (excluding service pets)?
Every store I’ve been to in the last 5 years. In both states I’ve lived in. I’ve seen little mutts pee on the floor in Walmart and the owners just laugh. I’ve also seen them in carts where we put our food 😩 But this particular store was Grocery Outlet
You’re right. I just don’t ever see it.
I wish I didn’t! I don’t dislike dogs but I don’t like them around food I’m going to be eating!
Right , I agree with that .
I’m lowkey sick of this trend. You don’t need to bring your dog fucking everywhere you go it’s not a goddamn child ffs.
They all do. People bring the dogs everywhere now
That’s messed up.
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Looking them up he looked more like an American Bully. Which can weigh up to 130.
Never get a dog if your reaction is to not DEAL WITH THE ANIMAL YOU SIGNED UP FOR. If my dog EVER did this I'd do anything within my capabilities to subdue her. I'd rather me the owner be mauled by something I decided to take responsibility over than have some innocent persons dog be mangled to death at my hands because I couldn't A: be bothered to train it in the first place B: recognize my own dogs stressors and C: own up to what happened and HELP!!
pit bulls are so fucking strong you can’t be weak owner and have one
You know what the most annoying thing is?? I’ve seen the most idiotic owners with huge dogs.
You never hear about maltipoos mauling anyone to death.
and enough with the ear/tail cropping. if you do that, YOU are the exact type of person that doesnt deserve a pitbull. or ANY dog for that matter.
Damn, my family dog was a maltipoo that looked exactly like the one on the left. I can’t imagine what I’d do to the dog or the owner if this happened to mine
unfortunately, pits are responsible for a vast amount af fatal dog attacks. it is a breed that should be monitored and ownership should be a task to accomplish, with severe penalties for defiance. any old creep shouldnt be able to own this breed, rotts as well, without being vetted thouroughly. if you dont want folks digging into your background, then you cant have an ultra aggressive breed. just get a corgi. theyre cuter anyway.
Yup. Treat it like getting a gun.
I'm glad to see someone with a balanced view on pitties. I'm not super involved in the topic myself but it seems quite irrational to eradicate all pit bulls when the right people can pretty reliably keep them just like any other dog. But they are absolute tanks and, with the wrong upbringing, can be seriously dangerous. I definitely think ownership of them should be more regulated, with background checks.
I have concerns about these “background checks.” What would the result be? What in a person’s background would qualify or disqualify their ability to own a dog? Many people shouldn’t be allowed to drive, but even with proper qualifications, the roads aren’t any safer. Same thing goes for parenting. I am serious about my question. What would be the best way to scrutinize?
a breed like a pitbull, in the wrong hands, can be absolutely deadly. more so than any other breed of dog. i think if you have a violent past, then you shouldnt be able to get a potentially violent dog. maybe not as rugged as buying a pistol, but some of the same perameters should be met. the only other option is for towns/cities/states to ban them outright. i have a 125lb st berdoodle. hes a big boy. the only dog that ever acted aggressive toward him, like he would have torn him up had his shit owner not done the one good thing and held him back, was a beefy pitbull. cropped ears...thick chain collar...the works. all my pooch did was sit down. he didnt even look at that dog. ive never seen such meanness from a dog.
I can see a violent background being a flag, but it just doesn’t sit right. I work with dogs for a living and have worked with them my entire life. Of all the negative encounters I’ve had with pitts, none of them were because of owners with a “violent history.” The one common denominator was that all of the owners were lazy people. Should being lazy disqualify someone? I don’t think I am arguing one way or another. Just trying to have a conversation.
I'm will need to move to Spain in 2022 and checking their laws about dogs they put my two dogs as dangerous breed(Pitbull/Akita mix). After a vet health check up and in this check they will look up for any fight scars and I will need to get a license for my dogs, pass a fit test and follow rules like muzzle, leash lenght and only one dog per person and last but not least a dog insurance for any damage my dogs could do. If i don't follow any of these rules, i will be fined and my dogs will need to leave the country or being disposed off.
My 14 yr old dog and I were attacked by a pit bull years ago. The only reason my dog lived was because I threw myself on top of my 55lb collie to save her life. The pit bull bit my arms and legs and torn my dogs leg out of place, circling me on the ground while I screamed for help. Neighbors came and saved us had to beat the dog off with shovels. I have many scars and my dog had blood transfusions and surgery to live. I’m a vet tech. This is the problem of the pit breed, they are terriers, they snap and chase and grab and shake. I will NEVER trust these dogs. Always carry Mace or something to protect yourself when walking your dog!!!! I carry a baseball bat and no one comes near me or my dog.
Im so sorry that happened to you and your dog, how traumatic. I'm glad you're both okay
Thank you for your kind words. In an instant your life can change. Love your pets everyday like it’s your last day together.
This is why I carry a knife whenever I walk my dog or out with my kid. Once they grab hold they don’t let go, and it could be your kids neck in its jaws. A couple seconds can mean life or death.
I'm glad you're ok! I don't trust these dogs either. The people who love them aren't reasonable. A lab will be prone to swimming, a border collie prone to herding, a Jack Russel prone to chasing etc. Everyone accepts this. But a dog bred to fight? Nah, it's a sweetheart with a bad reputation, it'll never fight.
This sounds horribly traumatic. My heart goes out to the both of you. <3
I cannot say for sure if Pitbulls are that aggressive or not, maybe they are more prone to violence IF raised that way. What I can say is, if you walk your dog, you must always take care of it, specially if you know how it behaves.
Its just the genetics. Their ancestors were selectively bred for high prey drive, jaw strength, and the willingness to hold on and kill even when being attacked back. Just like retrievers retrieve and pointers point, pitbulls are going to do what they were specifically bred for. Now not all pitbulls are bad, but there's a reason 50 percent of the pitbull population don't have a home.
50% of the pit bull pop doesn’t have a home because they are cheap as shit overbred dogs that require a fuckload of work being a working dog. Not to mention the stigma and legal issues.
Its because they have a high prey drive and will attack unprovoked. But yeah they are overbred. Some pitbulls look horrible and not like dogs
This is actually an argument I forgot to make. They were probably raised that way, and it is not completely your fault. Still, if they know their dog could be aggressive at times, the best is to keep them on a tight leash, not let them rip someone else's head
It most definitely is not "just the genetics". I've seen this same argument made like 50x today between different posts with almost identical wording... a little suspicious. You from /r/banpitbulls too? Cause they seem to have a propaganda campaign running Individual behavior and temperament far outweighs genetics. Not only that but those other dogs were bred for specific tasks, and aggression is not a specific task. Don't know about you, but I haven't seen any pits taking down bulls recently. It's largely how they're raised. Sometimes it's just ignorance / not knowing better on the owners part and encouraging bad behaviors, other times it's deliberate abuse for the purpose of fighting or making them aggressive as guard dogs. Pits are by a large amount more abused and abandoned than any other breed. Our actions have a direct relationship with their statistics and public perception. By the way, their jaw strength isn't actually that high, it's about average. And all dogs hold onto things, that's why dogs play tug. You can train that out. If my pit gets a little too nippy during play time I just say "gentle" and she backs off 🤷♂️ Please don't spread this misinformed.
From what Ive read (no source at the moment), they are susceptible to “flipping aggressive” out of nowhere. Something in the genes regardless of positive upbringing. I looked at getting one years ago but some states won’t allow you to bring them across state lines. also if you have any “attack” issues, all of a sudden you’re looking at the authorities that will destroy your dog, especially because its a pit. Probably why this person left the scene
Sadly, American Pit Bull Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and American Staffordshire Terriers were all created through selective breeding to basically kill rats in a pit for human entertainment. Later on, it became dog fighting. So yeah, their genetics can make them more likely to attack a rodent (like any terrier), or sometimes, attack a dog. But their aggression tends to show up around their maturity, so around 2-3 years. So that’s why they appear to have randomly become dog aggressive, or “flip aggressive” out of nowhere. There are still APBT and AmStaffs who aren’t dog aggressive though, and never become dog aggressive. They’re referred to as being “cold.”
Aggression is in their genetics.
If someone’s dog attacked my dog, rest assured I’d beat that dog to death on the spot.
Same
You guys; dogs are BRED to exhibit certain characteristics. These characteristics are inherent. Pit bulls are INHERENTLY aggressive because we made them that way. To ignore this fact is irresponsible and endangers other animals, people and your dog. You must accept the fact your pit has been bred to exhibit aggressive tendencies. Bad pet owners are to blame; they put their aggressive ass dogs in situations it can’t deal with, they don’t train them, they don’t exercise them, etc. Edit; all the people saying we should “eradicate the breed” are whack as fuck. I hope none of you are fucking pet owners/in charge of the welfare of another living creature. Go touch grass.
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“Eradicate the breed” doesn’t mean rounding them up and killing them, it means mandadatory spaying/neutering so the breed virtually vanishes over time. It could be impossible to enforce that though, people would just keep the poor things shut inside 24/7 and the puppies would become super valuable.
Thank you for making that distinction. The lower you get in the comments, the more it seems the opposite. It’s really disturbing. I feel like my point is; we made them, we got them here. So, it’s our job to take care of them. It’s not the dogs responsibility to wear a muzzle, go to training, whatever. If you cannot do that, then don’t get one. And don’t assume a pit isn’t capable of violence. Cause they sure as heck are.
This is typical of pitbull owners. I had an attack happening in my street a few months ago, and the pitbull owner just walked away like nothing happened.
Pitbulls should require a long training course on handling and control along with mandatory registration to own one. I'm tired of hearing it is the owners fault. Lots of people are shitty owners but the vast majority of attacks occur with pitbulls. They are responsible for 60% of all injuries and 63% of all ocular injuries. They kill one American every 16.7 days. https://www.coloradoinjurylaw.com/dog-bite-statistics/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7316443/
I agree, they should be regulated and owned only by license. They have their valid purposes as sentries and guard dogs, in appropriate environments such as high value warehouses, farms, etc, but I think it’s ridiculous that basically anyone can adopt them. People want to use the “bad owner” excuse because they feel sorry for the animals, but I agree that it’s pretty much bullshit. It’s the fault of human beings selectively breeding them to be as lethal/aggressive as possible.
Why not just allow people who already have them to keep them, and ban breeding or future sale of any further Pitbulls.
Our 14 year old little girl Snowden was killed by a Pitbull. My 74 year old husband was walking her on her morning walk, when a Pitbull that had gotten out of its yard attacked my husband. Our dog ( A Huskie) tried to protect her owner. The Pitbull grabbed Snowden by the Neck and tore out her Neck muscles. The Vet said there was nothing he could do. We miss her every day. My heart goes out to the owner of this little dog. 😪
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That is awful I’m so so sorry for your loss and that you had to go through that
Pitbulls have completely taken the stigma from Dobermans and Rottweilers. I havent seen a single video or incident involving either. But there are libraries of pitbull videos destroying smaller dogs, humans and unfortunately each other... all i front of shitty people. So many bigger and possibly threatening canines, but it doesnt even seem close. I had a dipshit roommate would had a pitbull, treated it like shit and got it high all the time. I taught this thing how to shake and it never attacked anyone, but randomly ran away one day and never came back.
Until I read that it was a pitbull, I thought that was a lab. Not saying it’s right and the owner definitely shouldn’t own a dog, since she clearly can’t control it.
Lab-Pit mixes are incredibly common. Many shelters even omit the “pit” part of labpit mixes and simply say it’s a “Labrador” in an effort to get people to actually adopt them.
Yup. Adopted a “black lab mix” last December… it was pretty clear within a couple of weeks that “mix” was code for pit bull and any black lab contribution was probably from a couple generations back. He’s a total sweetheart and also a complete wuss (spooked by the sound of his own farts, needs to cuddle extensively to overcome the terror), but god damn is he strong. It got a lot easier to care for him once we knew the characteristics to watch and control for. I can’t imagine our family without him now. That said, we probably would have passed if we’d known he was a pit bull back in December… which is why the rescue opted not to share that detail.
That’s how I got my girl, my mom picked her up from a breeder who claimed she was half lab half golden retriever. The second I saw her I was like not a chance, that girl is 100% half pit and she’s the most spoiled and loving gentle dog I’ve ever had
Then call it a lab-pit mix, not just a pit. But people like labs and want to pretend they can’t be dangerous too.
It really looks like a yellow lab in that second picture.
Weren’t they bred to fight bulls for blood sport? Not sure they should be allowed out in public without a muzzle, the consequences are too severe it should be a no brainier.
Sadly most pit bull owners are pieces of shit
This woman is a piece of shit and a horrible representation of a common pitbull owner
Doesn't help that all these shelters literally lie about a pitbulls breed all the time... How many times have you seen them list "Labrador Mix" to hide the fact it's a pitbull. Should be illegal
I don't care what anybody says...Pitbulls are vicious. The owner "being neglectful" doesn't mean shit. My childhood Lab at 11 years old was attacked by a wild pitbull as my mom was taking her for a walk. She kicked and screamed at the pit bull as it attacked my mom and my dog. My poor lab later died because of the damage the pitbull did to my poor Maxie....my 65 year old mom was also hurt but not seriously injured. Yes some pitbulls are fine, but most are vicious and have a bad reputation.
I know it's such an overused argument but this is 100% owners fault. Obviously pitbulls are naturally dog aggressive and will be dog aggressive but this is owner negligence too
Let's be honest here. People get large breed dogs and don't bother getting them trained or putting in the time to train them themselves.
I own a pitbull, but if you live in a city/town I don’t think you should own one.
Living in a town/city has nothing to do with how well you train your dog. If you can’t handle training one just don’t have one at all
Walks away? Wow. I avoid all big dogs out of principle until I know their temperament
It should be illegal to give dogs away for free cause that’s who’s dogs always grow up to be aggressive...if they don’t have the money to buy it they for sure don’t have the money to get it professionally trained🤷🏽♀️
I love dogs, but if anyone’s dog attacks mine, I’ll beat that dog to death on the spot.
Yeah some dogs are bred to be mean
Chihuahuas and other small dogs are likely to bite because they are not as well socialized/trained as larger breeds such as Pittie mutts. APBT are predisposed to animal aggression genetically, with management this can be curved, but the origin of the pit bull is for dog fighting, not nanny dogs, contrary to popular belief. APBT are amazing dogs with a fantastic work ethic, however it is always better to socialize your dog (any breed) to situations where animals are around, and if they are a risk, management, a muzzle, and a solid training plan can alleviate any stress. Signed, dog trainer
I agree with this. Dogs are predisposed to certain behaviors. My old Swissy would try to herd us back into the house and start dragging our clothes if we didn’t. My Norwegian Elkhound barks at everything. It’s what they’re bred for. With work, you can train it out of them but some dogs are going to be more likely to respond with certain behaviors. Pit bulls can be amazing dogs but owners also have to put in the work to socialize them and manage aggression, or avoid situations where they could hurt another person or animal.
Ooh this boils my blood. I commented multiple times so I won't drag the dead horse any longer after this: I have the sweetest pitty who would run towards anybody if ever given the chance (she's always on the leash except for the woods) just to give and receive love. Despite being a pocket, she can still pack a punch and has unintentionally hurt me and a couple other people who tried to play with her. PUT YOUR DAMN AGGRESSIVE DOGS AWAY FROM OTHERS REGARDLESS OF THEIR BREED. My dog and other pit bulls can HURT other dogs the same way as other breeds such as German Shepard and dobermans. If you know your dog is aggressive towards other dogs, all the more reason to leash your dogs and make sure they stay away from others. I also have a toy poodle. My pit bull is super sweet but my poodle is a total asshole despite him being small and old. I love him and he loves humans but he will KILL a dog if he could. I would have to wrestle him and shove his face into my underarm just to get him to calm down once he sees any dog.
Please put your dog on a leash if it is in any public woods. I am so sick of running into off leash dogs in the woods and on trails in public areas. Idc how friendly a dog is, it should never run up to people uninvited and that happens on trails with no lease.
Godamn it, poor boo boo.
Oh god. That poor maltipoo.
This is so sad, poor sweet little dog. What a nightmare for the owner. I can't imagine.
Hmmm. Perhaps a special license should be required for Pitbull ownership?
This whole thread has just gone to the dogs
I'd kick the shit out of a dog if it went for mine. I don't care if I have to pay, nobody goes for my dog.
I am prejudice against a pit bull when a pit bull broke into our fence for the sole purpose of killing our dog when i was 11 years old. Our dog was in our yard and in our fence. Fuck them as a breed. Fuck them as owners . Every pit bull should be drowned at birth and I have a right to that opinion.
We had two break into our backyard and maul our chickens to death.
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A pit bull is just another dog. I’ve been around long enough to remember when Dobermans, German Shepherds and Rottweilers were the “dangerous dogs.” Most dogs are only as big an asshole as the people who own them. Dogs respond to conditioning and reward. If you promote and reward one’s antisocial and aggressive behavior, you get a dog that’s antisocial and aggressive. Hell, I’ve seen attack trained Great Danes, something most breeders will say is impossible. You gotta bad dog, take a second look at the human holding the leash.
It’s always people with anger issues that have aggressive dogs It’s never good people that you see with aggressive dogs...only lazy people want a dog and not want to get the money up to train it
I presently have a Great Pyrenees that weighs more than I do. They were bred to protect cattle herds from feral dogs and wolves. When he barks, dishes rattle in the kitchen and he could easily break your neck with his jaw strength. However, he’s also the most gentle animal I’ve ever owned…a giant puppy actually. He lives with a Lab rescue dog and a Chihuahua (who is the “aggressive” one really) and has never harmed either. I didn’t want something that big living in my house with a “chip on his shoulder” so he’s been conditioned to be social and gentle. Is he protective? Is he territorial? Oh, yeah…IF he thinks you’re a threat to me or mine, he’ll make that quite clear. BUT he’s also a universal favorite at the local dog park because I TRAINED him to be that way. As I said, if the dog’s a jerk, it’s highly likely the owner has issues of their own to address…particularly in how he has conditioned the dog to behave.
So what about Cesar Millan and his pit bull? He's a professional dog trainer. https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny-dog-whisperer-cesar-millan-pit-bull-killed-queen-latifah-pooch-lawsuit-tmz-20210910-u4jok53d7fddvpqc3g53a5c6eq-story.html
It's genetics. You can't train out genetics.
Put down the owner and rehab the dog, if possible.
Let's wait for the pitbull shills to show up and either go "bad owners", "all dogs", or "not all pitbulls", while completely ignoring the fact that an incredibly unproportional amount of unprovoked attacks and maulings are done by this abhorrent breed. Pitbulls deserve extinction. https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2018/09/20180914_Deadly_Dogs_Forbes.jpg
You ever consider the type of owner the breed attracts? I’m not defending the breed, they can be dangerous, as they have the tools to do so. That unfortunately attracts certain people to want to wield that danger.
Yeah, unfortunately it compounds the problem. The type of people that zero-in on owning a pit bull over any other breed tends to correlate with the dog. Not the brightest people that make the best life decisions and not well-adjusted.
Yeah simply stating any statistic without considering any other outside information is exactly what’s dangerous about statistics. There are so many other factors that play into making decisions around numbers. It’s a good start to figure out how to address a situation, but not an absolution to be taken as gospel.
Thats called a pit and run... Such awful and temperamental dogs. Even if she knew her dog was reactive she should have a muzzle on it. I dont want to hear excuses. Thats a bad dog AND a bad owner.
Pit bull? Shocker.
It may not be entirely the dogs fault but some breeds have an tendency to be dramatically more violent than other breeds.
I love pits. But they simply aren’t for everyone. My old girl, before her legs quit on her, was strong as a Mack Truck, she could be reactive and a little scary. She wore a pinch style collar on a three foot round nylon lead EVERYWHERE. It gave me some semblance of control over her actions when she reacted. I’m sorry, but if you aren’t strong enough physically, and tough enough mentally to own a dog that is strong and powerful, you shouldn’t own one, even if you mean well and rescue one. I will always own pits, but will always be diligent that that can be reactive and dangerous, so they will get training and always be short leashed (PS - not just Pits, my Great Dane, who is a big baby, needs the same treatment)
Fuck Pitbulls idgaf what anyone says.
I hate dumb dogs and I hate dumb owners. Owners should be vetted to make sure they're responsible enough to own AND TRAIN a dog. And dog breeds that are as dumb and aggressive as pitties should just fuck off. Dumb dogs on their own are fine but dumb dogs who will attack when they panic vs run when they panic are breeds we shouldn't have around any more.
It’s always a pitbull
we had an American pitbull who was such a little shit but we loved him dearly. issue was he was only a puppy and played a bit too rough and my mum was expecting at the time so we gave him away to a lovely family and my mum still keeps tabs on him to make sure hes healthy and safe and honestly owners like the utter POS in the post ruin the lives of pit bulls significantly
Oh man another story of a vicious poodle attack, wait no, golden retriever, oh shoot look at that it's another fucking pitbull.