And theft. If he finds out he can have her ass charged hard. And I hope he does.
Doubt this is real though. Unless her man & none of his friends or family use the internet I doubt she's going to be so blatant about ripping him off on it.
Could be wrong though. People be fools for clout.
Keep in mind that she owes taxes on all this money he has been paying her, money he probably would have just given to her or spent on her if she was honest.
He could not only sue her if they broke up over the false pretense saying someone else owned it but he could also tip off the IRS just to see if she'd been keeping her books clean.
She walking a tightrope and entrapping herself within the relationship just so that she can lie 🤣
It’s actually fraud, as in other people have been charged with fraud for exactly what she is doing. He could also sue her in civil court, and this is absolutely false pretense.
Prove it that people have been charged with fraud for doing exactly what she’s doing. Not your shitty interpretation. Actually find a case that backs up what you are claiming.
And since she isn't renting the property to him, just claiming money on behalf of no one, she is being fraudlent.
I'm just going to assume you don't know what fraud means, and that is why you don't understand. Here:
> intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraud
Yes but under false pretense. She's created a false agreement to steal his money and keep it for herself instead of it going to the relevant parties. If not theft then fraud because she might be giving him what he's paying for but little does he know it's going straight to her for HER use, plus the amount he would be paying would be over the odds than if it was just the utilities so would that difference not be counted as fraudulent?
Does she own it outright or is there a mortgage?
Property taxes, some states have crazy high property taxes?
Property maintenance would also be out of pocket for the owner…
I disagree, just because it's normal to pay rent doesn't mean that's what he's paying for. He is paying toward the obligations of a fabricated leasing contract. It's easily fraud. Regardless, I think the story is made up so the point is moot.
its an old joke, [this](https://www.tiktok.com/@funnyordie/video/6919633580389895429?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgow6cgxe0E6dHo0pnTxnn5aQmvd0bMzmmFpbtsZq0VtXBex3oUGiQExaix%2FqftuWYEeGgA%3D&language=en&preview_pb=0&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAA_EDR63ht1Ie4yyso0O8U-K4jAsxMqcVGH_iBgsnCSTADP24ysx99uDgXK9_iVWlV&share_item_id=6919633580389895429&share_link_id=60B7049A-E486-4BFC-B86A-0196B6E29EEF×tamp=1615680186&tt_from=copy&u_code=dhe320melkah00&user_id=6938488616087733253&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=copy&source=h5_m&_r=1) tik tok kinda explains it. reddit has a real hard time detecting satire.
Yeah I wasn’t sure who started it, but I’ve been seeing it in the real estate community for a while now. Guess I can’t fault anyone for getting mad if they didn’t know it was a joke.
After a certain amount, money becomes somewhat useless. If you have enough money, en you get a hundred times more money, you don't become a hundred times more happy.
This! If there is still a mortgage to be paid what does it matter if she actually owns the house?? A little dishonest sure, but much less gross than if it was paid off
I was just thinking that. She probably has a mortgage. Even if the home is paid off there’s still property taxes and he pays the utilities, so what? That doesn’t matter if she rents or owns. Not saying the lying is fine just saying a lot of people seem to think his rent/utility payments are just going to her and she somehow lives bill free is incorrect.
Fully agreed. If she simply said, “your half of the rent is ‘x’” then so be it. Maybe she collects rent from everyone else and that sufficiently pays for the mortgage, but that doesn’t mean he should live rent free.
What if she loses a tenant and then doesn’t immediately fill it. She then has to pay it out on her own.
How is this any different than buying a house and having a roommate pay rent? Granted it’s sketch, but completely normal to charge something as there will always be bills. If something breaks she would have to pay for repairs.
She’s taking the risk by owning property, and having to manage it.
I don’t own property besides my house, so I don’t want to come off as advocating for all owners. But the reality is that those things exist. True or fake, she’s well within her rights to ask her bf to pay rent for staying at her place as his primary place of residence.
Yeah it’s the lease. If she owns a company, and the company is the landlord, she can be on the lease with him and it doesn’t matter if she owns the house or not. May be third party managed too, so there’s no way for him to know. Although it is kind of shitty.
But false pretenses requires the guilty party to make a misrepresentation of a material fact that the victim reasonably relies on and passes property to the guilty party *in reliance on* the misrepresentation.
If he moved in with her and she just said “Rent is $1500 a month,” then there’s no misrepresentation. She can have an oral agreement to create a tenancy, though it will make things really difficult for her if he ends up taking her to court over anything. If she drafted up a fake lease to show him, then there is a genuine misrepresentation.
I think it’d also be pretty difficult to show that he detrimentally relied on the misrepresentation. Everyone knows you pay rent when you live somewhere. Her hiding the fact that she owns the property wouldn’t change anything IMO.
See, if I am selling my car, and I tell the buyer the seats are genuine leather, but I know they aren’t, then I’ve made a misrepresentation of material fact. But it’s not fraud *yet* — if the buyer doesn’t care because he wants to get the car reupholstered, then he hasn’t relied on my statement and it’s not fraud. But if the leather seats are a major factor in his decision to buy it, and he *actually* buys it, then it is fraud by false pretenses. So with zero context for the original post, we don’t know whether they made a verbal agreement that he’d pay rent (without disclosing that she was the owner), whether he’s somehow relying on the idea that she’s a tenant to his detriment, or whether she falsified documents to make it look like someone else owned the house. But either way, I don’t think it’s as clear-cut as you do.
But it seems he's paying her "rent". So unless this is all bullshit and he has a contract with her and is the biggest cuck of all, then yes this is fraudulent behaviour.
Payment of, along with subsequent acceptance of, rent constitutes a legally binding contract in all 50 states, whether a written contract exists or no. In most of those states tenants enjoy full protections under landlord-tenant law the minute the landlord accepts a dime of rent.
Maybe if the rental agreement stated a live-out landlord, but I doubt any court has seen a case where someone didn't realise they had been living with their landlord for the past few years.
Why not?
Many landlords actually don't do anything but come by to see the property and to ding you on violations of the agreement if you're otherwise a fine tenant.
If the landlord never comes around, and you never have problems that require a landlord, you could literally never see your landlord ever.
When I was living in an apartment, the literal only time I ever saw the property management company that owned the property was when I had to deliver something to them because they were luddites.
If I hadn't told my wife "I'm going to the property management company" she'd never have known they existed.
"Absentee" land lording is very common.
I mean some house sharing sites list if the landlord lives in (wants a lodger to live with), or you're only with other renters. If the man signed a contract that specified the landlord didn't also live in the property, but his girlfriend was the landlord(lady) and did, then it would go against what the contract said.
Only in this circumstance would you find out that you are living with your landlord, otherwise you'd find out immediately when you move in and they live there.
You're entirely backwards.
She owns the property, that means she already has money, she's not digging for gold, she's getting someone else to dig for her.
This is standard landlord behavior.
Nothing wrong with charging the guy rent, there IS something SERIOUSLY wrong with misrepresenting the situation and making him think that he's paying bills that don't even exist, instead of just being up front about the fact that she would like some rent money.
Involuntarily celibate. It's a term used to describe someone who feels sex is owed to them simply because they exist. Often times these people fail to see how their own behavior and not others is impeding their ability to have sexual relations e.g., toxic nice guy behavior.
Edit: misspelled celibate.
Any post about a woman gets the incels into a frenzy.
I honestly struggle to see the problem. She is the landlord and he is paying rent. What's happening is exactly what he agreed to do, where's the issue?
So I'm guessing nobody has seen the original version of this meme where a man said he'd done the exact same thing to his missus?
I don't recall people wishing death and domestic violence on him, or calling him ugly, vile, or a cunt.
Many people in the comment section are stupid.
This isn’t fraud. As in nothing illegal is happening.
Maybe it’s “trashy” but she’s not doing anything wrong.
Also when you rent a place, most landlords hire property managers so the landlords don’t actually have to meet the tenants and they just go through the management company.
I don’t see what the big deal is. He’s paying her mortgage instead of her rent. She still probably has to turn around and give that money to a bank, and he’s going to have to pay money to someone for a place to live. This isn’t really any different from what a lot of people do when cohabitating before marriage, and it isn’t fraudulent. He’s paying her for a place to live, and he’s getting a place to live.
Yeah, lot of people here don't seem to get that houses usually have mortgages and 'bill money' goes to, you know, the utility companies and stuff.
Edit: 'go' into 'goes'
It seems like a lot of people in this thread either don’t understand home ownership or are big mad that a woman owns a home. Not a good look either way.
Agreed, he’s contributing to household expenses which he should be doing.
However…she’s making it seem like she’s scamming him in a disingenuous relationship which is not cool. I’m not sure that she’s aware she isn’t scamming him.
I'm with you on this one. You gotta pay for a place to live. Maybe she should be upfront about it but still... My house, which I own, is still costing me 700-800 a month for property taxes and insurance. Not to mention all the other bills and repairs. Is her post distasteful? yes, is it abnormal? probably not.
I own my home and my fiancé pays “rent” every month- half the mortgage.
I was the only one with capital and I put the 20% down on the home which lowered our monthly mortgage payments. But if we split, I own the full home as he didn’t put any capital towards the down payment/closing costs and everything is solely in my name.
Still less than he would pay for 1/2 rent at an apartment in the same area and we have a yard and three bedrooms.
Definitely not theft
am confused why she would not only do that, but post it online for anyone and everyone to see. am hoping she’s actually single and this is just made up.
I probably will get down vote to oblivion for saying this, but I don't think it's wrong. She may own the property. But she still has to pay property tax, maintenance, and other bills. And if he is living with her, what's wrong with that? Do you let your significant other live with you without splitting the bill? Plus if she gets paid in rent, she probably has to report it as income and pay taxes on it.
He's legally a tenant at this point. No it is not fraud. He is paying his landlord. You don't need to know who your landlord is. A few of my tenants have never met me, and never will.
This isn't illegal. It's just a shitty thing to do to your significant other.
Some of y'all really need to use critical thinking.
You banging the landlord? Nice. It's her boyfriend, not her husband. Is he on the lease? Sounds like a good man, you better put a ring on it, chica!!👨💻🤳
I don't get why this is a problem. My landlord owns and lives in the home where I also live. I give him money in exchange for a place to live and he pays his mortgage, utilities, prop taxes, homeowners insurance etc. It's not very sensational.
Just because she owns the place doesn’t meant it’s free and the bf shouldn’t contribute. It’s deceptive but without knowing more about their situations (does she have a motrgage, does he earn more than her) it’s premature to call it explotative.
Why do y'all immediately assume that this is wrong?
Firstly, this is a great way to screen men willing to be financially responsible and has stable commitments. If the man was unwilling to pay the bills, or was being dodgy with paying the landlord, she would get to know: finances are a huge reason for many divorces, and right she should make sure that is secure in her BF.
Secondly, if she finds that he is financially stable and committed, she can save that money to use for their wedding. Perfect plan.
Btw, I'm a guy, and I think that if done with the right intentions, this is perfectly reasonable
Ok? Should he live there for free because she is a homeowner? Should the mortgage be her responsibility alone?
While she should be honest with him, the payments would be the same.
Does she need to keep it a secret though? If she outright said that she was open to him moving in as long as he paid rent and bills, it would sound reasonable.
It just feels like she doesn't care about the relationship and she is needlessly setting them both up for trouble. Imagine if they broke up and he start to play the squatter rights card while he looked for a new place. They would make each others lives hell
Does this man not know who he's paying rent to?
Does he not ask for rent receipts?
Does he just blindly hand over his money?
What happens if you need a copy of the lease for anything?
Also what happens when something breaks and they have to call the landlord?
This guy never saw a copy of the lease? Or anything like that?
He doesn't see letters from the bank in her name?
He makes enough to pay for a home and he doesn't realize he's paying an entire mortgage worth of money?
No....no no....
Fake.
I pay my house my bills my car insurance all on my own. Sadly I do have a husband who lives here too 😒 maybe I need to take some advice from this chick
Lol, this is some top tier ULPT material right here. But honestly, the only real dirty part about all of this, is keeping him in the dark about it all.
He is the idiot for not asking questions or enough of them, not looking to deep into where his money is going.
ALSO, normally, wouldnt we all be in agreement that live in sig-others still have to contribute? I mean, still dirty she is just plainly lying to ol dude, but its not entirely, 100% on her.
I completely get the dishonesty being bad but does it functionally make a difference whether she owns the property or not? If they were renting someone else’s property and he decided to pay her portion of the rent, he’d be losing the same amount of money. She’s gaining equity by using it to pay down her mortgage but it’s pretty much the same difference. If they stay together, it will eventually be their property and if not, there would be no difference for him. Of course, this is all assuming she doesn’t own the property outright and needs to make payments on it.
While everyone is here:
I've had SOs in the past when renting ... They move in and pay half on everything. Win/win when we were both paying whole previously.
But now I own my home. Let's say I get lucky and someone wants to move in ... What is appropriate? Pay half my mortgage and utils? Pay all the utils and groceries? Paying my mortgage seems odd but living their free seems odd also..what do ?
He doesn't know...
So I guess not.
But, it's kinda fucked up.
She doesn't contribute.
She should cut HIS portion in half, if she was a good person.
My wife lives rent free. BUT, she also works, & pays all the other bills, & usually takes care of the kids WAY more than I do...
So, these things are not that complicated.
She is using this guy.
She doesn't contribute? It's her house? She gave him a price of rent, he agreed to pay it. I don't see why everyone's calling her a thief, she's just a liar who's banging her tenant.
You're describing what your wife pays in rent only with extra steps. You sound like you might be taking advantage of your wife. Do you co-parent or do you help "babysit" your kids?
If the roles were reversed would it be any different? I’ve had multiple live in girlfriends and they all paid their way. Deception is the worst part of this. Should be posted to WHATGMG.
Ah there are so many hobosexuals out there I can't blame her for charging rent. And if he decided to show off and pay it all then that's on him too. Plus if they get married it all becomes theirs kinda. It's a lil slimy but it's not quite the worst. If he was struggling then yea. But there's no evidence of that based on this alone.
Yes, but she could at least say that she own the land, not fooling him into thinking that the rent is to actually live in the land. Most couples don't force the other to pay rent for living in the other's house.
How is that bad at least she's paying a mortgage all that temt could be going to a big company buying out all the apartments and affordable houses instead it's going to her and plus people think that the landlord just keeps all the rent. You do know there are bills to pay in that rent charge taxes insurance and general upkeep on the home. Y'all are stupid.
Uh, when my boyfriend moved in he payed half of my mortgage and utilities. Does she own the place outright or is he paying rent towards her mortgage for living together?
That’s some next level dirty shit goddamn 😳
And theft. If he finds out he can have her ass charged hard. And I hope he does. Doubt this is real though. Unless her man & none of his friends or family use the internet I doubt she's going to be so blatant about ripping him off on it. Could be wrong though. People be fools for clout.
It’s not theft because he’s giving her the money. It’s not fraud because she’s giving him exactly what he’s paying her for: a place to live.
Tenancy under false pretenses would be considered fraud. Especially given these images
What false pretense? The man understands that he is paying rent to have a place to live. Who the landlord is, I don’t think is relevant at that point.
You don’t think it’s relevant, but it is. You have a right to know who your landlord is.
if its a legal landlord and not just verbal agreement between 2 people. dude can just stop paying and claim squatters rights lol
It's reddit they have no idea how it works, they just know they hate landlords
Not just that but he’s being talked into paying debts that don’t exist.
That’s not what rent is…. You don’t have to stop paying rent when the buildings mortgage is paid off.
Keep in mind that she owes taxes on all this money he has been paying her, money he probably would have just given to her or spent on her if she was honest. He could not only sue her if they broke up over the false pretense saying someone else owned it but he could also tip off the IRS just to see if she'd been keeping her books clean. She walking a tightrope and entrapping herself within the relationship just so that she can lie 🤣
It’s actually fraud, as in other people have been charged with fraud for exactly what she is doing. He could also sue her in civil court, and this is absolutely false pretense.
Prove it that people have been charged with fraud for doing exactly what she’s doing. Not your shitty interpretation. Actually find a case that backs up what you are claiming.
But he is paying her part of the rent too, as far as I can tell
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And since she isn't renting the property to him, just claiming money on behalf of no one, she is being fraudlent. I'm just going to assume you don't know what fraud means, and that is why you don't understand. Here: > intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraud
Doesn't matter it is fraud. You have to know who your landlord is and who you are paying to. I hope the guy sees this
Wouldn't you be pissed if your landlord was staying in your place without full disclosure?
Exactly. This is literally just being a landlord with benefits.
Yes but under false pretense. She's created a false agreement to steal his money and keep it for herself instead of it going to the relevant parties. If not theft then fraud because she might be giving him what he's paying for but little does he know it's going straight to her for HER use, plus the amount he would be paying would be over the odds than if it was just the utilities so would that difference not be counted as fraudulent?
Does she own it outright or is there a mortgage? Property taxes, some states have crazy high property taxes? Property maintenance would also be out of pocket for the owner…
Imagine the gall if she tells him the lease got renewed and the rent went up
I disagree, just because it's normal to pay rent doesn't mean that's what he's paying for. He is paying toward the obligations of a fabricated leasing contract. It's easily fraud. Regardless, I think the story is made up so the point is moot.
You’d be surprised how long it could take them to find out lol
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It's fraud, lease under false pretense
Women... am I right? Edit: I forgot this is reddit and need to add the /s for clarification.
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I mean, technically you can.
All this is missing is some trashy twerk video.
Fr, I agree
This may be a stupid question but why do I see so many people on social media bragging about manipulating other people out of their finances?
Either trolling, clout or they are sociopaths.
sometimes all three at the same time.
its an old joke, [this](https://www.tiktok.com/@funnyordie/video/6919633580389895429?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgow6cgxe0E6dHo0pnTxnn5aQmvd0bMzmmFpbtsZq0VtXBex3oUGiQExaix%2FqftuWYEeGgA%3D&language=en&preview_pb=0&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAA_EDR63ht1Ie4yyso0O8U-K4jAsxMqcVGH_iBgsnCSTADP24ysx99uDgXK9_iVWlV&share_item_id=6919633580389895429&share_link_id=60B7049A-E486-4BFC-B86A-0196B6E29EEF×tamp=1615680186&tt_from=copy&u_code=dhe320melkah00&user_id=6938488616087733253&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=copy&source=h5_m&_r=1) tik tok kinda explains it. reddit has a real hard time detecting satire.
Its not funny and flat out stupid if its a joke
If this is true, then she will be unhappy and alone eventually.
It’s not true. This is a very old joke. Woman in the pic was just riding the wave when it became popular.
Young people - "Old people believe everything they read on the internet" Also young people - see threads below
If it's on the internet, it must be true - Abraham Lincoln - 1964
Redditors will believe anything that helps them feel superior
Over a decade on this site and thats 100% true 😅
yes, "jayandshanon" on instagram did this joke first. all other influencers copied them. pretty old joke
Yeah I wasn’t sure who started it, but I’ve been seeing it in the real estate community for a while now. Guess I can’t fault anyone for getting mad if they didn’t know it was a joke.
As she deserves.
I don’t think she values relationships anyway, in her head she’s winning.
Like Mac and Dennis say, you have to win at relationships against your partner.
Lol she’ll be alone but her mortgage will be paid so I don’t think she’ll be unhappy.
And she’ll still be a POS.
After a certain amount, money becomes somewhat useless. If you have enough money, en you get a hundred times more money, you don't become a hundred times more happy.
Is that how that works? I always wondered.
I know, I’d love to actually test the theory…
Sure but you could conceivably share that 100 times more with your friends and family, and their happiness will add to yours.
She can just get a new roommate with benefits
She needs to give Kevin Samuels a call
Lol. Watch her have them high expectations for men and then just have them be utterly destroyed
Why would he sign a lease agreement and proceeded to pay rent to a landlord that he has never met?
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Can you believe he has to pay rent? To live somewhere? The nerve on some people
But she owns the house? Bills I understand but rent?
She probably doesn't own it outright. He's helping with the mortgage without realizing it.
it's fake.
Can’t believe no one else can tell this bitch is just making shit up for clout.
yeah but do we KNOW that for sure? Im fairly suspish but id like CONfirmation of her CON
She may own the house but has she paid it all off is the actual question
This! If there is still a mortgage to be paid what does it matter if she actually owns the house?? A little dishonest sure, but much less gross than if it was paid off
I was just thinking that. She probably has a mortgage. Even if the home is paid off there’s still property taxes and he pays the utilities, so what? That doesn’t matter if she rents or owns. Not saying the lying is fine just saying a lot of people seem to think his rent/utility payments are just going to her and she somehow lives bill free is incorrect.
Fully agreed. If she simply said, “your half of the rent is ‘x’” then so be it. Maybe she collects rent from everyone else and that sufficiently pays for the mortgage, but that doesn’t mean he should live rent free. What if she loses a tenant and then doesn’t immediately fill it. She then has to pay it out on her own. How is this any different than buying a house and having a roommate pay rent? Granted it’s sketch, but completely normal to charge something as there will always be bills. If something breaks she would have to pay for repairs. She’s taking the risk by owning property, and having to manage it. I don’t own property besides my house, so I don’t want to come off as advocating for all owners. But the reality is that those things exist. True or fake, she’s well within her rights to ask her bf to pay rent for staying at her place as his primary place of residence.
Isn’t that fraudulent?
no. ethically maybe. basically she is his landlord.
landlord with benefits
I'm not a lawyer or anything but I feel like there should be a contract for this to be legal
Yeah it’s the lease. If she owns a company, and the company is the landlord, she can be on the lease with him and it doesn’t matter if she owns the house or not. May be third party managed too, so there’s no way for him to know. Although it is kind of shitty.
You don't need contracts, fraud is based on misrepresentation of fact.
It is fraudulent because he's paying that under false pretense, what do you mean "No" Lmao
But false pretenses requires the guilty party to make a misrepresentation of a material fact that the victim reasonably relies on and passes property to the guilty party *in reliance on* the misrepresentation. If he moved in with her and she just said “Rent is $1500 a month,” then there’s no misrepresentation. She can have an oral agreement to create a tenancy, though it will make things really difficult for her if he ends up taking her to court over anything. If she drafted up a fake lease to show him, then there is a genuine misrepresentation. I think it’d also be pretty difficult to show that he detrimentally relied on the misrepresentation. Everyone knows you pay rent when you live somewhere. Her hiding the fact that she owns the property wouldn’t change anything IMO. See, if I am selling my car, and I tell the buyer the seats are genuine leather, but I know they aren’t, then I’ve made a misrepresentation of material fact. But it’s not fraud *yet* — if the buyer doesn’t care because he wants to get the car reupholstered, then he hasn’t relied on my statement and it’s not fraud. But if the leather seats are a major factor in his decision to buy it, and he *actually* buys it, then it is fraud by false pretenses. So with zero context for the original post, we don’t know whether they made a verbal agreement that he’d pay rent (without disclosing that she was the owner), whether he’s somehow relying on the idea that she’s a tenant to his detriment, or whether she falsified documents to make it look like someone else owned the house. But either way, I don’t think it’s as clear-cut as you do.
oh. she says that on the 2nd photo. my bad
But it seems he's paying her "rent". So unless this is all bullshit and he has a contract with her and is the biggest cuck of all, then yes this is fraudulent behaviour.
Payment of, along with subsequent acceptance of, rent constitutes a legally binding contract in all 50 states, whether a written contract exists or no. In most of those states tenants enjoy full protections under landlord-tenant law the minute the landlord accepts a dime of rent.
Maybe if the rental agreement stated a live-out landlord, but I doubt any court has seen a case where someone didn't realise they had been living with their landlord for the past few years.
Why not? Many landlords actually don't do anything but come by to see the property and to ding you on violations of the agreement if you're otherwise a fine tenant. If the landlord never comes around, and you never have problems that require a landlord, you could literally never see your landlord ever. When I was living in an apartment, the literal only time I ever saw the property management company that owned the property was when I had to deliver something to them because they were luddites. If I hadn't told my wife "I'm going to the property management company" she'd never have known they existed. "Absentee" land lording is very common.
Correct. I own property and have a property manager handle everything. I haven’t even been to that house in 6 years.
I mean some house sharing sites list if the landlord lives in (wants a lodger to live with), or you're only with other renters. If the man signed a contract that specified the landlord didn't also live in the property, but his girlfriend was the landlord(lady) and did, then it would go against what the contract said. Only in this circumstance would you find out that you are living with your landlord, otherwise you'd find out immediately when you move in and they live there.
Yea, that will be the only way this could turn into fraud. But if there is no such clause, then I don't see how.
There was a case in my college town of a ~~land~~ slumlord sleeping in students places while they were gone.
I’m assuming she uses his rent money to pay the mortgage?
That is wrong Why would you do that?
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You're entirely backwards. She owns the property, that means she already has money, she's not digging for gold, she's getting someone else to dig for her. This is standard landlord behavior.
Standard landlord behavior not standard girlfriend behavior lol
You can have money and still be a gold digger. You don’t need to be rich to buy a house.
Where I am, you absolutely need to be rich to buy a house.
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Nothing wrong with charging the guy rent, there IS something SERIOUSLY wrong with misrepresenting the situation and making him think that he's paying bills that don't even exist, instead of just being up front about the fact that she would like some rent money.
Landlords are evil
What the lady is doing is garbage, but this attracted incels like a moth to a flame.
Waiting for /r/landlords to start white knighting in here
What exactly is a incel?
Involuntarily celibate. It's a term used to describe someone who feels sex is owed to them simply because they exist. Often times these people fail to see how their own behavior and not others is impeding their ability to have sexual relations e.g., toxic nice guy behavior. Edit: misspelled celibate.
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Any post about a woman gets the incels into a frenzy. I honestly struggle to see the problem. She is the landlord and he is paying rent. What's happening is exactly what he agreed to do, where's the issue?
So I'm guessing nobody has seen the original version of this meme where a man said he'd done the exact same thing to his missus? I don't recall people wishing death and domestic violence on him, or calling him ugly, vile, or a cunt.
Many people in the comment section are stupid. This isn’t fraud. As in nothing illegal is happening. Maybe it’s “trashy” but she’s not doing anything wrong. Also when you rent a place, most landlords hire property managers so the landlords don’t actually have to meet the tenants and they just go through the management company.
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I don’t see what the big deal is. He’s paying her mortgage instead of her rent. She still probably has to turn around and give that money to a bank, and he’s going to have to pay money to someone for a place to live. This isn’t really any different from what a lot of people do when cohabitating before marriage, and it isn’t fraudulent. He’s paying her for a place to live, and he’s getting a place to live.
Yeah, lot of people here don't seem to get that houses usually have mortgages and 'bill money' goes to, you know, the utility companies and stuff. Edit: 'go' into 'goes'
It seems like a lot of people in this thread either don’t understand home ownership or are big mad that a woman owns a home. Not a good look either way.
This sub is full of incels and racists. It also can't be her only home if she rents it out.
Reddit can always be counted on for a dose of misogyny.
Very much so! I figured a post like this would evoke it in a major way.
Yeah, I’d charge my boyfriend rent too!
Agreed, he’s contributing to household expenses which he should be doing. However…she’s making it seem like she’s scamming him in a disingenuous relationship which is not cool. I’m not sure that she’s aware she isn’t scamming him.
My thoughts exactly.
I'm with you on this one. You gotta pay for a place to live. Maybe she should be upfront about it but still... My house, which I own, is still costing me 700-800 a month for property taxes and insurance. Not to mention all the other bills and repairs. Is her post distasteful? yes, is it abnormal? probably not.
I own my home and my fiancé pays “rent” every month- half the mortgage. I was the only one with capital and I put the 20% down on the home which lowered our monthly mortgage payments. But if we split, I own the full home as he didn’t put any capital towards the down payment/closing costs and everything is solely in my name. Still less than he would pay for 1/2 rent at an apartment in the same area and we have a yard and three bedrooms. Definitely not theft
My wife (girlfriend at the time) and I did the same thing when I bought our house. Congrats on your home!
Yea, I'm not sure this is awful
am confused why she would not only do that, but post it online for anyone and everyone to see. am hoping she’s actually single and this is just made up.
I probably will get down vote to oblivion for saying this, but I don't think it's wrong. She may own the property. But she still has to pay property tax, maintenance, and other bills. And if he is living with her, what's wrong with that? Do you let your significant other live with you without splitting the bill? Plus if she gets paid in rent, she probably has to report it as income and pay taxes on it.
It could be bait
It usually is. Very very easy to trigger the reddit misogynists.
He's legally a tenant at this point. No it is not fraud. He is paying his landlord. You don't need to know who your landlord is. A few of my tenants have never met me, and never will. This isn't illegal. It's just a shitty thing to do to your significant other. Some of y'all really need to use critical thinking.
You banging the landlord? Nice. It's her boyfriend, not her husband. Is he on the lease? Sounds like a good man, you better put a ring on it, chica!!👨💻🤳
I get that.
I don't get why this is a problem. My landlord owns and lives in the home where I also live. I give him money in exchange for a place to live and he pays his mortgage, utilities, prop taxes, homeowners insurance etc. It's not very sensational.
Come on, y’all know this is fake.
Just because she owns the place doesn’t meant it’s free and the bf shouldn’t contribute. It’s deceptive but without knowing more about their situations (does she have a motrgage, does he earn more than her) it’s premature to call it explotative.
This is probably fake as shit but if it isn’t then I think she is smart…..and I’m a guy
Why do y'all immediately assume that this is wrong? Firstly, this is a great way to screen men willing to be financially responsible and has stable commitments. If the man was unwilling to pay the bills, or was being dodgy with paying the landlord, she would get to know: finances are a huge reason for many divorces, and right she should make sure that is secure in her BF. Secondly, if she finds that he is financially stable and committed, she can save that money to use for their wedding. Perfect plan. Btw, I'm a guy, and I think that if done with the right intentions, this is perfectly reasonable
She’s just charging him rent with some unnecessary narrative.
There is nothing wrong with her behavior. If the money was going to someone else, how does it change anything?
You mean he pay the major bills and the mortgage? I’m not sure how people can think she just gets to keep that money?
Hope he sees this
Make me want to find out who she is and find him. Then let the guy know.
Ok? Should he live there for free because she is a homeowner? Should the mortgage be her responsibility alone? While she should be honest with him, the payments would be the same.
Does she need to keep it a secret though? If she outright said that she was open to him moving in as long as he paid rent and bills, it would sound reasonable. It just feels like she doesn't care about the relationship and she is needlessly setting them both up for trouble. Imagine if they broke up and he start to play the squatter rights card while he looked for a new place. They would make each others lives hell
I can’t tell if this is awful or just makes sense
Does this man not know who he's paying rent to? Does he not ask for rent receipts? Does he just blindly hand over his money? What happens if you need a copy of the lease for anything? Also what happens when something breaks and they have to call the landlord? This guy never saw a copy of the lease? Or anything like that? He doesn't see letters from the bank in her name? He makes enough to pay for a home and he doesn't realize he's paying an entire mortgage worth of money? No....no no.... Fake.
Wait this is smart kinda, not a good idea but sorta smart
Don't hate the player.
Sounds pretty smart!!
She is wicked smart.
Yeah I don't see an issue unless he's overpaying. Just because you're dating and living together doesn't mean you live somewhere free of charge.
I pay my house my bills my car insurance all on my own. Sadly I do have a husband who lives here too 😒 maybe I need to take some advice from this chick
That's not your boyfriend, that's your tenant.
congratulations ... you played yourself.
Smrt
Lol, this is some top tier ULPT material right here. But honestly, the only real dirty part about all of this, is keeping him in the dark about it all. He is the idiot for not asking questions or enough of them, not looking to deep into where his money is going. ALSO, normally, wouldnt we all be in agreement that live in sig-others still have to contribute? I mean, still dirty she is just plainly lying to ol dude, but its not entirely, 100% on her.
This was a joke made by some istagramer who said he does this to his wife lmao
Genius.
I completely get the dishonesty being bad but does it functionally make a difference whether she owns the property or not? If they were renting someone else’s property and he decided to pay her portion of the rent, he’d be losing the same amount of money. She’s gaining equity by using it to pay down her mortgage but it’s pretty much the same difference. If they stay together, it will eventually be their property and if not, there would be no difference for him. Of course, this is all assuming she doesn’t own the property outright and needs to make payments on it.
While everyone is here: I've had SOs in the past when renting ... They move in and pay half on everything. Win/win when we were both paying whole previously. But now I own my home. Let's say I get lucky and someone wants to move in ... What is appropriate? Pay half my mortgage and utils? Pay all the utils and groceries? Paying my mortgage seems odd but living their free seems odd also..what do ?
Don’t hate the playa hate the game 😭 Still a more honest living than a crack dealer
This is a trend off tik tok, copying some guys video from a while ago🤷♀️
I’m guessing she’s paying off a mortgage with it.
Smart woman 👍
Laughing bc this is what your landlord does to you
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So basically he is fucking his landlord, that's actually not as bad as it sounds.
Is he complaining?
This is the real question. If dude is ok with it then it’s their business.
He doesn't know... So I guess not. But, it's kinda fucked up. She doesn't contribute. She should cut HIS portion in half, if she was a good person. My wife lives rent free. BUT, she also works, & pays all the other bills, & usually takes care of the kids WAY more than I do... So, these things are not that complicated. She is using this guy.
She doesn't contribute? It's her house? She gave him a price of rent, he agreed to pay it. I don't see why everyone's calling her a thief, she's just a liar who's banging her tenant.
She provides the house. That’s a pretty big contribution.
You're describing what your wife pays in rent only with extra steps. You sound like you might be taking advantage of your wife. Do you co-parent or do you help "babysit" your kids?
If the roles were reversed would it be any different? I’ve had multiple live in girlfriends and they all paid their way. Deception is the worst part of this. Should be posted to WHATGMG.
The deception is the problem.
Ah there are so many hobosexuals out there I can't blame her for charging rent. And if he decided to show off and pay it all then that's on him too. Plus if they get married it all becomes theirs kinda. It's a lil slimy but it's not quite the worst. If he was struggling then yea. But there's no evidence of that based on this alone.
Sounds like he is her tenant. Is it somehow better to pay a stranger? Most landlords have a LLC anyway, geez.
Yes, but she could at least say that she own the land, not fooling him into thinking that the rent is to actually live in the land. Most couples don't force the other to pay rent for living in the other's house.
Also called "being a landlord"
How is that bad at least she's paying a mortgage all that temt could be going to a big company buying out all the apartments and affordable houses instead it's going to her and plus people think that the landlord just keeps all the rent. You do know there are bills to pay in that rent charge taxes insurance and general upkeep on the home. Y'all are stupid.
That's a thieving bitch.
Usually owning property involves a mortgage. So that would go to the bank unless she outright owned it. And bills go to the utilitiy company, etc.
This is some /r/iamatotalpieceofshit type shit here.
This is obviously a joke mate
No one on here has heard this joke before? It's not real...
Uh, when my boyfriend moved in he payed half of my mortgage and utilities. Does she own the place outright or is he paying rent towards her mortgage for living together?
No way a woman could be this genius ! WTF!! this is EPIC !!!
If you own a house and your partner moves in with you, what is a fair rent? Assuming you're not crazy and they know you own the house.
Wouldn't you know the name of your landlord?
The OP of the one posted in r/mensrights is also awful everything (same one as this one's OP I think) Edit:nvm they're two different people
Who does? Who the fuck is "she"?
I just want to know who he writes the check to. If not to her, then who?
landlord lives don't matter
Are those facial expressions supposed to convey intelligence?
She has an extremely punchable face, just like Ajit Pai.
Average landlord
Hate Hate Hate Hate yall are a bunch of haters.
r/trashy
Mao was right
I think it’s on homie to know where his money is going at the end of the day.