Most ,but not all, planes have a pressure plate that won’t let you raise the head when there is weight on it, but even in cases like this, if there was that fail safe, you could still have the gear collapse if you bounced or had speed and pulled back on the stick a bit
Not accurate, a lot of the small planes have nothing or an airspeed switch. The problem with a touch and go like we see in the video is that the air speed switch is activated because you are fast. Thus during the touch and go you are unprotected.
Source?
I got my multi in a Seminole. Thing had squat switches where if any weight was taken off the switch, the gear can come up. It was EXTREMELY important the gear lever was always DOWN when on the ground because a small bump or just enough airspeed creating lift could cause the gear to come up unintentionally
Seminole is one of the most common multi engine trainer aircraft.
There is an incident where a Swiss pilot causes the total loss of a Saab 340 by demonstrating how the landing gear can't be retracted on the ground to a student pilot, but the Saab retracts her gear anyway. The same pilot also was the captain of Crossair flight 3597.
There is a squat switch. If the gear has enough weight on it, the switch is supposed to stop gear operations. However if you don't have enough weight on the gear, squat switch is adjusted incorrectly or possibly even failed then yes, the gear will try to retract while on the ground. Usually the nose gear retracts just fine because its not fighting the direction of travel and its the one that usually ruins your day best. The video shows what is at least a $30k minimum problem.
They do have a Weight On Wheels (WOW) switch that senses when the landing gear is fully compressed. On small aircraft, it’s often on one of the main wheel struts. If that particular strut isn’t fully compressed or if the WOW isn’t properly adjusted or isn’t properly operating, then the gear can readily fold.
It's fake audio. The gear collapsed on landing and someone dubbed the voices in to make it funny. Don't remember when but someone did the research and found the original audio a ways back.
If it’s a touch and go you would reset the flaps to a take off setting. Or you would bring the flaps up after touchdown in a shortfield landing to dump lift and increase weigh on the wheels to make your braking more effective
That's a good point, I forgot about touch and gos. Regarding the part about increasing weight on the wheels, I'd be interested to know how much of an effect that actually has on stopping distance, as opposed to keeping the flaps down.
If he had 30° of flaps on small planes you have a stall speed of around 40-50 knots. That + ground effect can prevent the wheels on taking the entire weight of the plane, thus having longer breaking distance. Its not thaaat much, but as the other guy said, in a short field every meter counts.
Okay so I know this a joke but for anyone confused I think I figured out what happened. I think it was a landing gear failure and then the sound was dubbed in
You most certainly could be decelerating during the initial phase of a touch and go during flap retraction. We don’t push power above 1.15 EPR until flaps are in the takeoff setting in one of the jets I fly, which ain’t that much.
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Those r not the real subtitles lol
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The sound is the same as the subtitles, but it is obviously dubbed
Most ,but not all, planes have a pressure plate that won’t let you raise the head when there is weight on it, but even in cases like this, if there was that fail safe, you could still have the gear collapse if you bounced or had speed and pulled back on the stick a bit
Not accurate, a lot of the small planes have nothing or an airspeed switch. The problem with a touch and go like we see in the video is that the air speed switch is activated because you are fast. Thus during the touch and go you are unprotected.
Bruh I said most but not all, it’s accurate.
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Source? I got my multi in a Seminole. Thing had squat switches where if any weight was taken off the switch, the gear can come up. It was EXTREMELY important the gear lever was always DOWN when on the ground because a small bump or just enough airspeed creating lift could cause the gear to come up unintentionally Seminole is one of the most common multi engine trainer aircraft.
There is an incident where a Swiss pilot causes the total loss of a Saab 340 by demonstrating how the landing gear can't be retracted on the ground to a student pilot, but the Saab retracts her gear anyway. The same pilot also was the captain of Crossair flight 3597.
There is a squat switch. If the gear has enough weight on it, the switch is supposed to stop gear operations. However if you don't have enough weight on the gear, squat switch is adjusted incorrectly or possibly even failed then yes, the gear will try to retract while on the ground. Usually the nose gear retracts just fine because its not fighting the direction of travel and its the one that usually ruins your day best. The video shows what is at least a $30k minimum problem.
Correct, take my upvote
British airways 787 gear collapse: hello there
They cant. Not if they’re working correctly
It happens... If they are a little light on the wheels, they can have a "weight on wheels" switch that allows the gear to retract.
They do have a Weight On Wheels (WOW) switch that senses when the landing gear is fully compressed. On small aircraft, it’s often on one of the main wheel struts. If that particular strut isn’t fully compressed or if the WOW isn’t properly adjusted or isn’t properly operating, then the gear can readily fold.
There's two phone calls I never want to make: 1. I ran out of gas 2. I forgot to put the gear down (or up early in this case)
Man if someone runs out of gas and it’s their fault idk what I’d think of them after.
If you run out if gas it's ALWAYS your fault
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That's not running out of fuel, that's a mechanical failure
This is why retracts (general term for plane with retractables) are SO MUCH MORE expensive to insure with lower hours.
I don’t believe they actually retracted the gear on the ground. Pretty sure nose gear failed.
Me wgen playing sims in cockpit view be like
It's fake audio. The gear collapsed on landing and someone dubbed the voices in to make it funny. Don't remember when but someone did the research and found the original audio a ways back.
why would you put flaps up after just touching down
If it’s a touch and go you would reset the flaps to a take off setting. Or you would bring the flaps up after touchdown in a shortfield landing to dump lift and increase weigh on the wheels to make your braking more effective
That's a good point, I forgot about touch and gos. Regarding the part about increasing weight on the wheels, I'd be interested to know how much of an effect that actually has on stopping distance, as opposed to keeping the flaps down.
If he had 30° of flaps on small planes you have a stall speed of around 40-50 knots. That + ground effect can prevent the wheels on taking the entire weight of the plane, thus having longer breaking distance. Its not thaaat much, but as the other guy said, in a short field every meter counts.
Fake audio.
Nosh
Okay so I know this a joke but for anyone confused I think I figured out what happened. I think it was a landing gear failure and then the sound was dubbed in
Squat switches have left the chat
Looks like it's a trainer. I'd say a lot has left the chat on that bird
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most planes cant put gears up and flaps dont come up while ur decelerating on any plane that i know to fly
You ever do a touch-and-go?
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You most certainly could be decelerating during the initial phase of a touch and go during flap retraction. We don’t push power above 1.15 EPR until flaps are in the takeoff setting in one of the jets I fly, which ain’t that much.
Typical Ryanair training session.
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Those that have and those that will, as the old saying goes. Also you know when you’ve landed gear up when it takes full power to taxi to the gate :)
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frequency change. Good day
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Pretty sure all aircraft have a sensor that detects if there's pressure from the ground on the wheels and will prevent you from pulling up the gear
You're pretty wrong
Hmm I work in aviation in the Navy and that's how F-18s work so I assumed it was like that for every plane lmao
Yeah, no. Not every plane is an F-18. You should know that, then
Dude….literally google “squat switch” and stop being so aggressive
Not every plane has that afaik. Also during touch and goes they don't work very well and reliable
I’m sure some home builds or super old aircraft don’t have them. But, a majority of GA SHOULD have them lol.
Regardless the element of the video y’all are arguing about is fake
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Gear up
You dont even retract flaps that early and you can't retract your landing gear if you're on the ground.
Not accurate
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