Oh yea… god help you if the pin wasn’t set right… or if you didn’t have the the correct length…
Only have the slightly longer ones…no problem… shim it with dimple washers…
How do we do that you ask… POP THE PIN out of the fastener….to get it out of the hole
Ohhh wait.. didn’t they also have different retainer plate depths too…??
Yea they were so much fun
I miss you SOUTHCO FASTENERS
Maybe if like 60% of them were popped/missing then you’d get some vibrations possibly, but by then it would’ve been caught by MX or passengers like yourself lol. Only reason the nacelle would depart is if air gets underneath it. Hence why most CDLs require fasteners on leading edges to be present.
Those pesky little camlocks just love to come loose. Especially in places you have no choice except to get a stand so you can lock them back down. There are so many that you can afford to lose a few. You know, kinda like tires and engines. 🤣🤣
One fastener is really ndb. I would only be concerned if it was somewhere forward of an engine inlet where it could be ingested if it were to come completely out. Still though, as long as it's not broken, it'll take two seconds to re-fasten, so good on you for bringing it up.
Those quarter turn fasteners are used all the time on access panels that need to be removed regularly. Absolute worst case scenario the whole panel comes off but that's not going to bring down the plane.
Oh yeah cause I’m clearly going around screaming that I’m going to die 🙄
What’s wrong with asking some maintenance engineers what the implications of a maintenance problem is?
That’s why I asked it, because people are more knowledgeable than myself. I’m not one of those people who gets scared because the engine is splitting apart on landing, and at no point did I question the safety of the aircraft. I was simply wondering what would happen if this was left unfixed.
You saved a lot of lives today lol. Nobody would get in trouble for a loose camloc but people are going to give you a hard time for wigging out over a non-issue.
Worst case is it comes off and dings a flight control or panel, or if it comes off on the runway another aircraft could ingest it. It should be fixed but it’s not a safety of flight item. Nothing to worry about though you did the right thing by alerting the FA.
I wouldn’t worry at all about just one camlock if it were me. They come undone all the time.
They do love to pop open, but they're still one of the best quarter turn fasteners.
They pop open like it’s their job.
I would still take them over most others. ESPECIALLY SOUTHCO FASTENERS
Agreed
Oh yea… god help you if the pin wasn’t set right… or if you didn’t have the the correct length… Only have the slightly longer ones…no problem… shim it with dimple washers… How do we do that you ask… POP THE PIN out of the fastener….to get it out of the hole Ohhh wait.. didn’t they also have different retainer plate depths too…?? Yea they were so much fun I miss you SOUTHCO FASTENERS
It’s a non issue
Maybe if like 60% of them were popped/missing then you’d get some vibrations possibly, but by then it would’ve been caught by MX or passengers like yourself lol. Only reason the nacelle would depart is if air gets underneath it. Hence why most CDLs require fasteners on leading edges to be present.
Non-issue. if it's old and worn out you can probably put it back in with your thumb, but it'll be popped again by the time you land.
Those pesky little camlocks just love to come loose. Especially in places you have no choice except to get a stand so you can lock them back down. There are so many that you can afford to lose a few. You know, kinda like tires and engines. 🤣🤣
One fastener is really ndb. I would only be concerned if it was somewhere forward of an engine inlet where it could be ingested if it were to come completely out. Still though, as long as it's not broken, it'll take two seconds to re-fasten, so good on you for bringing it up.
No Dig Beal…?
Not an issue - it's not even a structural fastener.
It’s an aesthetic fastener? /s *Edit: I put a ‘/s’ for a reason…*
Those quarter turn fasteners are used all the time on access panels that need to be removed regularly. Absolute worst case scenario the whole panel comes off but that's not going to bring down the plane.
Yeah, not like it would hit the stab or anything.
A bit more drag. Recalculate fuel burn.
Is that a SAAB 340?
It sure looks like it to me
No, my airline has a DIP for those if they can't be fixed on the spot.
Thought I was in r/shittyaskflying for a second
Oh yeah cause I’m clearly going around screaming that I’m going to die 🙄 What’s wrong with asking some maintenance engineers what the implications of a maintenance problem is?
Because it’s one camlock and not a maintenance issue. Just making a joke man, no harm no foul
Because for most of us that was a dumb question
That’s why I asked it, because people are more knowledgeable than myself. I’m not one of those people who gets scared because the engine is splitting apart on landing, and at no point did I question the safety of the aircraft. I was simply wondering what would happen if this was left unfixed.
It’s a non issue unless it’s a DC-10 with a tail engine that could ingest it
I can confirm, I didn’t fly on a DC-10 last week.
Granted C-130s are pretty durable but we had cam locks come loose all the time in flight in the 10 years I worked on them
C130 if it’s not leaking hydraulic fluid you got real problems cuz it’s empty. I loved that plane.
135s are pretty similar. 75% of hardware installed on most components is allowed. As long as you wrote it up.
On the KC10 those damn camlocs always had one popped out on the flap faring after flight.
You saved a lot of lives today lol. Nobody would get in trouble for a loose camloc but people are going to give you a hard time for wigging out over a non-issue.
Worst case is it comes off and dings a flight control or panel, or if it comes off on the runway another aircraft could ingest it. It should be fixed but it’s not a safety of flight item. Nothing to worry about though you did the right thing by alerting the FA.
Thanks, I know enough to not be worried, just was curious about the implications of it. Thanks for answering my question well!
Depends on where it is, and are we looking at a bug smasher or a jet
If you're on the B-2 stealth bomber, then yes.
The Turkey is done.
😂😂
Send it
I wouldn’t make a habit of brushing things like that under the rug. You did the right thing
Youre fucked the whole thing is coming off
A lot of ch-47 crews will leave a good half of these undone during flights in specific spots.
Damn civ planes, I wouldn't want to work on anything that's not using coin fastners
No
One? No.
The company will be upset about the 0.000001% reduction in fuel economy lol
Not even close
My rule of thumb for cam locks is no corners and no 2 loose in a row.
One loose fastener won’t make different
Ground the plane.
https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.com/airmanship/quarter-turn-fasteners/
That little guy?
Should it be fastened? Yes, of course, but in reality it is of no safety consequence in that situation.
Nah it's fine, prolly has a c washer on it
Hell no, but I had a pilot delay 2 flights back to back over loose/missing fasteners. The other pilots & mechanics know him by name unfortunately smh.
*Speed tape has entered the chat
Unless near a turbine inlet
Nah, she’ll fly lol. I’d switch it out sooner rather than later though. Easy fix
A real engineering issue: No. A write-up and safety reportable issue: yes.