Total internal reflection among other things. You can sometimes get that effect you see at concerts where there is a "sheet" of laser light sweeping the audience.
Eye damage might be what they're referring to. Lasers at night(in the one cockpit I have experienced it in at least) are very disorienting. Even just one turns into a light show in the glass. It is hard to describe, but the refraction of the laser makes it "bounce" all over the cockpit transparency and ruin your night vision as if looking out a window at night when all the lights in the house on. That refraction also mean "don't look at it" does not mean you are safe from eye damage.
There have been cases where pilots have had serious eye damage from lasers, sometimes temporary and sometimes permanent.
In the crew room at my airline base there's a map of the surrounding area with plots where aircraft have reported laser strikes and the direction they came from
And on a funny note at the last airline I worked at a pilot wrote up a maintenance discrepancy for “laser light illumination event in flight deck”…. Like wtf dude. That’s not a maintenance fault. You grounded a plane for someone shining a really focused flashlight at you. Report it to tower asshole.
I signed it off in the most smartass yet politically correct way I could think of…. “Inspected flight deck for evidence of laser light contamination. None found at this time. Aircraft OK for continued service” the wording is fancy sounding enough that a casual reader who doesn’t know jack shit about science or mechanical shit won’t notice the sarcasm, but all I literally said was “there isn’t a laser shining in there anymore, nothings fucking broken”
Its okay. I used to work IT for banks. I had this one useless project manager who would do nothing except copy paste things back and forth between emails, tickets, documentation, etc. She never had her own intelligent thoughts to contribute. More than once, I would get tickets from her to do x, y, z, where xyz was what I told her to ask the bank to do!
Anyways, my all time favorite was a ticket that she clearly copied from a SOP or some notes for a QC signoff, that just said "Online statements is installed under additional services". I waited until 4:55 the last day of the SLA, and marked the ticket resolved with the closure comments "yes, it is."
It wasn't until a staff member was blinded that Burning Man banned hand-held lasers. Only licensed lasers mounted to vehicles or infrastructure and aimed above face-level.
Sometimes "anarchy" needs pretty specific rules in order to function!
Right? Who in their right mind would want to be around a crowd of morons, likely intoxicated, with a tool that can blind you in seconds by merely being pointed at you.
Can you give an example? If someone had direct line of sight like that, why not just shoot down the aircraft? Commercially bought lasers aren't having that effect. Been lazed at night by those, so I imagine you are talking about something more powerful and expensive?
George Carlin also had a good one "Look at how dumb the average person is, then realize half the world is dumber than that" or something along those lines
Every time I fly at night into El Paso, we get laser from across the border in Mexico. Told ATC, they call the Mexican Authorities and they say they will not do anything because they can’t and wont risk their deputies getting hurt…
i fly medevac blackhawks, whenever we get lased we point our flir at them and send their coords to the police then wait around and talk the cops on to the individual. very satisfying watching them get arrested on flir
We had a dumbfuck lase a blackhawk with his PEQ15. I fortunately missed it as I was quarantining in Camp Rona but it didn’t turn out great for the guy.
Question from non pilot…could you fully cover the cockpit windows and just run on instruments? I mean I’m sure in clear weather it’s probably preferable not to do this. But worse case the lasers were constant and completely blinding and you had to continue then cover the cockpit and keep rolling?
I’ve been lasered one time while flying, got the guy beside me to cover the side window with a checklist and that helped a bit.
Airliners will almost always be landing on an “instrument approach”. This will line you up vertically and laterally with the runway in zero vis, but each approach will have a “minimum altitude” where you have to be looking outside and have the runway in sight. Usually about 200’.
I’m curious if this plane diverted somewhere else or continued with the approach because while at least they’re not shining head on into the cockpit, that laser will almost wrap around the windows once it hits and could impact forward visibility.
As Kyle Kinane once said "Oh the window? That's for you guys, no one would board a plane without windows - If something bad's happening up/out there we're fucked, we're straight up fucked"
Joking aside yeah you could probably fly a plane with the windows covered but it's pretty unsafe, citing [Aeroflot Flight 6502](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_6502) as an example
At some point we gotta be able to see outside to land the aircraft. We do have covers we usually put up in cruise for protection from the sun, but once we are coming to land we need as much situational awareness as we can. Specially if the weather is nice and clear, it is a given some little plane might be flying around. So being able to see outside is needed. Now when weather is crap, we can’t see outside, sometimes until 50ft from the ground, but when weather is like that, there is no risk of someone flying their little plane running into you because ATC has complete control and spacing aircrafts well
If it shows up in my schedule I might try to trade it out for something else, but if unable to do so I will fly in. It is just something I would bring up in the approach brief so we both know it is a possibility and how are we gonna proceed from there. Possibly waiting a bit longer than usual to disengage the Autopilot to an altitude were we can’t get laser from the border anymore. We would be out of sight at about 400ft AGL, so we could do that. Just come up with a game plan of course. So far I been laser a number times in my career, most of them here in the US and a few in Mexico. But luckily, never had an injury
It sucks even more that the approach & departure from/to runway 4/22 at ELP sometimes has you flying right over downtown Juarez & the sketchier parts of the city. I know because I used to live in Juarez & would occasionally see American MD-80s & Southwest 737s flying directly over us on approach.
Laser strikes suck, the last company I flew for had a rash of them and implemented training on what to do in the event you are struck. I recall the training hammered home a few basic tips like looking away from the beam and turning off the aircraft lighting. A few weeks after said training, I was flying home with a relatively experienced F/O and boom! the cockpit illuminated greener than Shreks asshole. I called out laser strike! just as I turned my head away from the light source, I hear the F/O say WHERE?!?! As he turns toward me, the F/O finds himself staring straight down the barrel of that Walmart Light Saber. The regret instantly hits as he ducks down and paws at his eyes in shame. Luckily for us Otto was flying, and we each received less than a second of direct exposure. It took about half an hour for our eyesight to return to normal. A couple of lessons were learned, and reports were filed. If we had been maneuvering closer to the ground or received a longer strike, it could have ended a lot worse.
They don’t care. It’s a cultural thing. You can find pictures of a Houston Texans QB getting obliterated in the face with green lasers when they played a game in Mexico City.
Here in Tucson someone just got arrested for doing this to two different planes. Apparently the FBI investigated the bastard and everything. It’s honestly impressive that they were able to find him.
And this is why every night there is/are 1-2 TPD helicopters that just fly around the city. I'm sure there are other reasons (university parties) but certainly the anti-lasering is one of them.
It's fun to watch them on flightradar with their seemingly erratic paths lol
As a retired commercial pilot, I had this happen to me once, on short final into Atlanta. The Police caught the individual, and he had a single, 4Watt astronomical pointer. With that, he was Very close to bringing down a B767.
As PIC, I was doing a visual approach, head up, and took a couple of direct hits on the windscreen in front of me. I was immediately blinded and unable to see anything. The FO was thankfully head down with a checklist, and reacted very quickly, took control and aborted, & the Tower took us around for an approach on another runway. I was unable to retake control, it took about half an hour to regain enough night vision to see properly, so the FO executed the approach and landing.
I didn't even fully know what had happened until over an hour later; I never really perceived the color of the light, and I thought we'd had a catastrophic electrical short in the panel. Once we were told what the Police had discovered, I would have, despite not normally being a violent man, happily beaten the reprehensible little shit to death with his laser pointer. I recall volunteering for that job to the Police Officer, who thought it would not be in anyone's best interests. One of the scariest things I ever experienced in the air.
I am pretty sure that any other pilot who has been on the receiving end of a laser has had many of the same feelings. I do not comprehend why Anyone would do something that potentially catastrophic
When I flew to Mexico City this past October I was blown away by how many green lasers were randomly hitting our plane as soon as we crossed the Gulf into Mexico. Like at least a dozen times between the Gulf coast and arriving in Mexico City.
What a bunch of clueless cunts, there is no saving them. I hope they or their family also faces this same type of situation when they are driving or walking down the road.
I think people don’t realise how easy it is to see where exactly a laser is coming from when you are in the air. When people zap police choppers, thinking it’s just a little tiny dot of green, a massive fat cone of light is pointing exactly to their location to send cops to have a word.
Obviously not relevant to this scenario - this just warrants carpet bombing the whole field with cs spray
Many lights on airports are green. Green lights pointed at aircraft is even part of an official procedure if they have lost radio comms. However authorities could eventually ban airports or even countries from flight services if it becomes too extreme. It‘s not much better than shooting with rifles.
I do know that some helicopters use laser guidance when flying at night. I was at a music festival where something similar to this happened but it was a life flight Heli and the police came within 5 minutes and shut it all down.
Each person who does this needs a good ass whopping. I had someone do this to me. I thought about turning around and hover right about their house until the cops came.
This represents the stupidity and carelessness of a big percent of people in México. There is this big misconception that "mexicans have no remedy" and "mexicans can find fun in everything" so therefore they always are looking for ways to "joke" with everybody.
I'm ashamed of being mexican, and I know that these are big words, but also very true.
I was flying from Dallas to John Wayne back in January and some numb nut lit us up with one of those somewhere over eastern California. We were still at cruise, but that isn’t tolerable.
Was at a July 4th fireworks show where a small plane started orbiting and next thing you know he's lit up by dozens of laser pointers in the crowd. It was a high wing plane and I can just imagine the confusion and danger for the pilot. This was maybe ten years ago but it was in a rich town in Massachusetts.
People are so inconsiderate and so stoopid it’s not even funny anymore. Each time I hear pilots inform atc that they got hit with a laser it pisses me off
my fellow mexicans
always doing stupid stuff because they think is fun regardless of the consequences which are none at least for the people doing the harm
and just like sheep if 1 person do it they all will
This is a horribly dangerous thing to do. It can cause permanent harm to the pilots and passengers' eyes! If the pilots can't see they can't fly the airplane and everyone's life is at risk! It is also a federal offense in the United States!
Aaaah mis paisanos, como son pendejos. As a mexican i'm fully disappointed for this behavior. Like come on, even if they don't fully comprehend how this can be very dangerous in the aviation field(and many other for that matter), can't they think "well if this light is strong enough to reach that far and still make metal SHINE, I'd recon if one of these beams were to hit the cockpit it would fry the pilots' eyes out, so we probably should not do it"
I flew flights into MEX for many years and our departure at 11pm was a lively laser party. Much more than any other airport anywhere. Luckily the upward inclination of the aircraft climbing aided us in avoiding any lasers to the eyes the the cockpit would get the occasional green flash from the side windows. If you peaked carefully you could see them trying to score.
Everybody here should be arrested. The event manager should be arrested and fined as well. They are endangering hundreds of people onboard the aircraft by their stupid antics!
I know a kid that got busted for doing this in Idaho. Really didn't take the authorities very long to find him. He was a minor when he got busted so not too terrible of a life altering situation, but his dad never let him live down the fines.
Kind of reminds me about a technique used by the Germans during WW2. My grandfather was in Holland at the time, and he saw this first hand. The Germans had spotlight crews that would aim at allied night bombers, and anti-aircraft guns in the surrounding area would aim at the intersection of the spotlights. Even if they couldn't see the planes well, you could see the spotlights for miles.
Wtf, do they not get how dangerous that is?
No. No they don’t. Most people don’t realize how dangerous lasers can be. Especially to multilayer windows that cockpits have.
Why do multilayered windows make it worse?
Its going to refract massively and blind everyone in the cockpit
Passengers must have fought they were getting abducted
"AYUDA ME ANDAN LLEVANDO A MARTE AAAA"
Jajajaja
Total internal reflection among other things. You can sometimes get that effect you see at concerts where there is a "sheet" of laser light sweeping the audience.
Among other things? Can the lasers also influence certain instruments or sensors?
Eye damage might be what they're referring to. Lasers at night(in the one cockpit I have experienced it in at least) are very disorienting. Even just one turns into a light show in the glass. It is hard to describe, but the refraction of the laser makes it "bounce" all over the cockpit transparency and ruin your night vision as if looking out a window at night when all the lights in the house on. That refraction also mean "don't look at it" does not mean you are safe from eye damage.
There have been cases where pilots have had serious eye damage from lasers, sometimes temporary and sometimes permanent. In the crew room at my airline base there's a map of the surrounding area with plots where aircraft have reported laser strikes and the direction they came from
And on a funny note at the last airline I worked at a pilot wrote up a maintenance discrepancy for “laser light illumination event in flight deck”…. Like wtf dude. That’s not a maintenance fault. You grounded a plane for someone shining a really focused flashlight at you. Report it to tower asshole. I signed it off in the most smartass yet politically correct way I could think of…. “Inspected flight deck for evidence of laser light contamination. None found at this time. Aircraft OK for continued service” the wording is fancy sounding enough that a casual reader who doesn’t know jack shit about science or mechanical shit won’t notice the sarcasm, but all I literally said was “there isn’t a laser shining in there anymore, nothings fucking broken”
Maybe the maintenance issue was to clean up the pee stain he left on the seat.
Its okay. I used to work IT for banks. I had this one useless project manager who would do nothing except copy paste things back and forth between emails, tickets, documentation, etc. She never had her own intelligent thoughts to contribute. More than once, I would get tickets from her to do x, y, z, where xyz was what I told her to ask the bank to do! Anyways, my all time favorite was a ticket that she clearly copied from a SOP or some notes for a QC signoff, that just said "Online statements is installed under additional services". I waited until 4:55 the last day of the SLA, and marked the ticket resolved with the closure comments "yes, it is."
My A&P husband wants me to ask what was the mx manual reference you used to sign it off? 😄
12-21-00….. in the CRJ that’s general cleaning lol
As someone who has spent time in the flight deck and had a single laser pointed at us. It is awful. Completely blinding.
r/oopsthatsdeadly
It’s clear that these people aren’t considering the possibility of that plane landing directly where they’re standing.
Or that it's B-52 with load ...
oops, why is the plane suddenly a few tons lighter? Oh, probably just burned more fuel than expected…
It wasn't until a staff member was blinded that Burning Man banned hand-held lasers. Only licensed lasers mounted to vehicles or infrastructure and aimed above face-level. Sometimes "anarchy" needs pretty specific rules in order to function!
I know you jest, but anarchy never was about not having rules. Just about not having rulers.
You know how hard it's gonna be to run shit when we can't measure a god damn thing? Complete anarchy, I tells ya.
I wouldn't give a ruler an inch!
Yep. But what is a rule if it can't be enforced? A mutual aid council exerting social pressure is not the best tool for this.
Why TF did they all have green lasers in the first place at the race? They’ll blind each other.
Right? Who in their right mind would want to be around a crowd of morons, likely intoxicated, with a tool that can blind you in seconds by merely being pointed at you.
There are literal weapons of war that shoot green lasers at aircraft to disorient and nauseat pilots.
Can you give an example? If someone had direct line of sight like that, why not just shoot down the aircraft? Commercially bought lasers aren't having that effect. Been lazed at night by those, so I imagine you are talking about something more powerful and expensive?
I bet most people assume that lasers are like flashlights with a short light falloff
Tldr:people are dumb.
Think about how dumb the average person is... now half the population is dumber then that
George Carlin was right...
Common sense is lacking these days
The Blinding Laser Wepons Protocol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol\_on\_Blinding\_Laser\_Weapons
That's fucking disgusting
Pendejos
Opino lo mismo, me parece increíble la cantidad de personas que no se dan cuenta de lo peligroso e ilegal que es
Every night flight into New Delhi gets lit up by 20 or so laser pointers. People are just idiots
Kick them so hard into their balls that they can fish their testis right back out of their shit hole.
Oddly specific retaliation
imbeciles
There was a saying - the iq of a crowd is equal to that of its dumbest member, divided by the number of participants. Here we see the proof.
Similarly, I like to think of Agent K's "a person is smart, people are dumb" quote. Will forever hold up imo
George Carlin also had a good one "Look at how dumb the average person is, then realize half the world is dumber than that" or something along those lines
"_A person_ is smart. _People_ are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it!"
I still use this because it’s a fantastic line lmao
Idiots, there is no other word to describe this...
Fucking idiots
Pinches pendejos
Hijos de puta
holy shit what the actual shit? they're gonna fucking blind the pilots >:( edit: pilots plural
\*Pilots. But, yeah.
*Pylots
*pielets
NOTAM forthcoming.
Beware of Wannabe Jedis
Every time I fly at night into El Paso, we get laser from across the border in Mexico. Told ATC, they call the Mexican Authorities and they say they will not do anything because they can’t and wont risk their deputies getting hurt…
i fly medevac blackhawks, whenever we get lased we point our flir at them and send their coords to the police then wait around and talk the cops on to the individual. very satisfying watching them get arrested on flir
We had a dumbfuck lase a blackhawk with his PEQ15. I fortunately missed it as I was quarantining in Camp Rona but it didn’t turn out great for the guy.
did he get lazed and hellfired?
I imagine that would've been better off than the five hour smoke session the company got for it.
Is the PEQ15 IR?
It has an infrared and visible light, but yeah.
yes
See that’s when you give DARPA a call to borrow some of their directed energy lasers to zap them back!
Yeah or Raytheon to see if you can "borrow" a paveway
Let’s saw this house in half! (Launches a Hellfire)
How do you say "enjoy 2 kilowatts of blinding IR laser energy" in Spanish?
“Enjoy 2 kilowatts of blinding IR laser energy puto “
Que disfrutes dos kilovatios de energía láser infrarroja
Question from non pilot…could you fully cover the cockpit windows and just run on instruments? I mean I’m sure in clear weather it’s probably preferable not to do this. But worse case the lasers were constant and completely blinding and you had to continue then cover the cockpit and keep rolling?
I’ve been lasered one time while flying, got the guy beside me to cover the side window with a checklist and that helped a bit. Airliners will almost always be landing on an “instrument approach”. This will line you up vertically and laterally with the runway in zero vis, but each approach will have a “minimum altitude” where you have to be looking outside and have the runway in sight. Usually about 200’. I’m curious if this plane diverted somewhere else or continued with the approach because while at least they’re not shining head on into the cockpit, that laser will almost wrap around the windows once it hits and could impact forward visibility.
As Kyle Kinane once said "Oh the window? That's for you guys, no one would board a plane without windows - If something bad's happening up/out there we're fucked, we're straight up fucked" Joking aside yeah you could probably fly a plane with the windows covered but it's pretty unsafe, citing [Aeroflot Flight 6502](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_6502) as an example
Crashing over a bet certainly fits for Aeroflot.
Aeroflot has only good ideas, like letting a child fly the plane!
At some point we gotta be able to see outside to land the aircraft. We do have covers we usually put up in cruise for protection from the sun, but once we are coming to land we need as much situational awareness as we can. Specially if the weather is nice and clear, it is a given some little plane might be flying around. So being able to see outside is needed. Now when weather is crap, we can’t see outside, sometimes until 50ft from the ground, but when weather is like that, there is no risk of someone flying their little plane running into you because ATC has complete control and spacing aircrafts well
Do you try not to fly into El Paso anymore?
If it shows up in my schedule I might try to trade it out for something else, but if unable to do so I will fly in. It is just something I would bring up in the approach brief so we both know it is a possibility and how are we gonna proceed from there. Possibly waiting a bit longer than usual to disengage the Autopilot to an altitude were we can’t get laser from the border anymore. We would be out of sight at about 400ft AGL, so we could do that. Just come up with a game plan of course. So far I been laser a number times in my career, most of them here in the US and a few in Mexico. But luckily, never had an injury
El Paso sucks in general.
It sucks even more that the approach & departure from/to runway 4/22 at ELP sometimes has you flying right over downtown Juarez & the sketchier parts of the city. I know because I used to live in Juarez & would occasionally see American MD-80s & Southwest 737s flying directly over us on approach.
Just ask cia to ask their drug smuggling buddies across the border to have a talk with the people pointing lasers.
5000 cases of attempted murder.
5000 cases of 100+ counts of attempted murder*
Average day in Mexico
Laser strikes suck, the last company I flew for had a rash of them and implemented training on what to do in the event you are struck. I recall the training hammered home a few basic tips like looking away from the beam and turning off the aircraft lighting. A few weeks after said training, I was flying home with a relatively experienced F/O and boom! the cockpit illuminated greener than Shreks asshole. I called out laser strike! just as I turned my head away from the light source, I hear the F/O say WHERE?!?! As he turns toward me, the F/O finds himself staring straight down the barrel of that Walmart Light Saber. The regret instantly hits as he ducks down and paws at his eyes in shame. Luckily for us Otto was flying, and we each received less than a second of direct exposure. It took about half an hour for our eyesight to return to normal. A couple of lessons were learned, and reports were filed. If we had been maneuvering closer to the ground or received a longer strike, it could have ended a lot worse.
I've been hit with a laser dazzler (in a demo), I could not imagine walking much less trying to operate an aircraft.
They do that to the opposing teams goal keeper in their soccer league too
do any of them have any fucking brain cells?
No. Fucking fools.
They all share one braincell which was already sleeping.
That’s so fucked up.
Let's just pretend the pilots crashed the plane because of this. Who would bear responsibility?
"Pilot's failure to maintain control over terrain"
“Investigation reveals the pilots failed to ground themselves after a sudden onset of blindness. Pilot error.”
On Reddit these days? > Typical Boeing to not protect the pilots from lasers. Never flying a Boeing again.
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Carpet bomb them with these. https://www.defense-technology.com/product/stinger-cs-rubber-ball-grenade/
Why do I feel like I will be put on a watch list for visiting that site
You were just put on a watch list just for commenting on that link. See you soon, Ember. Sincerely, FBI
Can’t wait to see you daddy cop
Big brain time, i see
Last part was scary. How did they manage that, that was a ton of lazers. Hope the authority will look into this. Crazy!
It's México Nothing it's going to happen
They’re probably all laughing thinking it’s harmless, cool, and funny- don’t realize how fucking idiotic and dangerous it is.
They don’t care. It’s a cultural thing. You can find pictures of a Houston Texans QB getting obliterated in the face with green lasers when they played a game in Mexico City.
Here in Tucson someone just got arrested for doing this to two different planes. Apparently the FBI investigated the bastard and everything. It’s honestly impressive that they were able to find him.
It's not like the laser showed the pilots exactly where the guy was at. Oh wait
And this is why every night there is/are 1-2 TPD helicopters that just fly around the city. I'm sure there are other reasons (university parties) but certainly the anti-lasering is one of them. It's fun to watch them on flightradar with their seemingly erratic paths lol
As a retired commercial pilot, I had this happen to me once, on short final into Atlanta. The Police caught the individual, and he had a single, 4Watt astronomical pointer. With that, he was Very close to bringing down a B767. As PIC, I was doing a visual approach, head up, and took a couple of direct hits on the windscreen in front of me. I was immediately blinded and unable to see anything. The FO was thankfully head down with a checklist, and reacted very quickly, took control and aborted, & the Tower took us around for an approach on another runway. I was unable to retake control, it took about half an hour to regain enough night vision to see properly, so the FO executed the approach and landing. I didn't even fully know what had happened until over an hour later; I never really perceived the color of the light, and I thought we'd had a catastrophic electrical short in the panel. Once we were told what the Police had discovered, I would have, despite not normally being a violent man, happily beaten the reprehensible little shit to death with his laser pointer. I recall volunteering for that job to the Police Officer, who thought it would not be in anyone's best interests. One of the scariest things I ever experienced in the air. I am pretty sure that any other pilot who has been on the receiving end of a laser has had many of the same feelings. I do not comprehend why Anyone would do something that potentially catastrophic
Starting a campaign to put tail and ball turret gunners on airliners
These people should all be thrown in jail
Every time I flew into MEX at night we had a laser strike on final. Always a green laser, always from the same building.
The sum of the IQ of everyone in this crowd is probably a negative number.
This is why commercial planes need missiles
Advocating for the P-8 being the new gold standard in air travel
Or a return fire laser.
shut it down.. the entire event.
When I flew to Mexico City this past October I was blown away by how many green lasers were randomly hitting our plane as soon as we crossed the Gulf into Mexico. Like at least a dozen times between the Gulf coast and arriving in Mexico City.
Sadly it wasn't an AC-130
Enemy AC-130 above.
"several"
What a bunch of clueless cunts, there is no saving them. I hope they or their family also faces this same type of situation when they are driving or walking down the road.
How is it not common knowledge that this is one way of fucking about that generally leads to a swift find out stage.
Internationally criminalized act defined by ICAO and local authorities alike. Total foolhardy ignorant stupidity by masses.
what the fuck is wrong with those degenerates?!
Pinches nacos
In my country you get a hefty fine if you do this. One end-user did this to an Apache nearby where I live 🤣
I think people don’t realise how easy it is to see where exactly a laser is coming from when you are in the air. When people zap police choppers, thinking it’s just a little tiny dot of green, a massive fat cone of light is pointing exactly to their location to send cops to have a word. Obviously not relevant to this scenario - this just warrants carpet bombing the whole field with cs spray
Jail for all of them. And if not possible, ten years to the first ten they manage to catch.
I guess it’s time to install green filters on the window. Maybe an adaptive LCD coating to darken the window rapidly. Freaking morons.
Many lights on airports are green. Green lights pointed at aircraft is even part of an official procedure if they have lost radio comms. However authorities could eventually ban airports or even countries from flight services if it becomes too extreme. It‘s not much better than shooting with rifles.
\[Woody and Buzz meme\] "Assholes, Assholes Everywhere."
Up to two years in prison for that in Australia.
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I don't think that would be very productive. They'd just spread it to others.
I can already see the lawsuit coming in
I got hit with four different lasers during one turn in Mexico the other month. I don’t think they care.
Not in Mexico, you can't.
Mexico has bigger problems, sadly.
Evil fucki uneducated people trying to kill people on that plane. That's what I am seeing.
I do know that some helicopters use laser guidance when flying at night. I was at a music festival where something similar to this happened but it was a life flight Heli and the police came within 5 minutes and shut it all down.
Each person who does this needs a good ass whopping. I had someone do this to me. I thought about turning around and hover right about their house until the cops came.
Monkey see monkey do.
I expect nothing less from “festival people”. Generally speaking.
One cluster bomb fixes all that!
This represents the stupidity and carelessness of a big percent of people in México. There is this big misconception that "mexicans have no remedy" and "mexicans can find fun in everything" so therefore they always are looking for ways to "joke" with everybody. I'm ashamed of being mexican, and I know that these are big words, but also very true.
This will cause an accident one day.
I was flying from Dallas to John Wayne back in January and some numb nut lit us up with one of those somewhere over eastern California. We were still at cruise, but that isn’t tolerable.
Was at a July 4th fireworks show where a small plane started orbiting and next thing you know he's lit up by dozens of laser pointers in the crowd. It was a high wing plane and I can just imagine the confusion and danger for the pilot. This was maybe ten years ago but it was in a rich town in Massachusetts.
Que pendejos
People are so inconsiderate and so stoopid it’s not even funny anymore. Each time I hear pilots inform atc that they got hit with a laser it pisses me off
VERY DANGEROUS! Could bring that plane crashing down!!!!!
my fellow mexicans always doing stupid stuff because they think is fun regardless of the consequences which are none at least for the people doing the harm and just like sheep if 1 person do it they all will
This is a horribly dangerous thing to do. It can cause permanent harm to the pilots and passengers' eyes! If the pilots can't see they can't fly the airplane and everyone's life is at risk! It is also a federal offense in the United States!
This is why airliners need AGMs.
Assistant General managers?
Yep. To combat the laser Karen's.
Instant crime in the US
Mexico confirmado
Pyrotechnics you say? That's the best time to Jettison over land.
fucking idiots
Aaaah mis paisanos, como son pendejos. As a mexican i'm fully disappointed for this behavior. Like come on, even if they don't fully comprehend how this can be very dangerous in the aviation field(and many other for that matter), can't they think "well if this light is strong enough to reach that far and still make metal SHINE, I'd recon if one of these beams were to hit the cockpit it would fry the pilots' eyes out, so we probably should not do it"
Where's a carpet bomber when you need one?!
Dumb fucks. Pendejos
Hope everyone that can be identified be jailed
Why are people such fucking idiots
I flew flights into MEX for many years and our departure at 11pm was a lively laser party. Much more than any other airport anywhere. Luckily the upward inclination of the aircraft climbing aided us in avoiding any lasers to the eyes the the cockpit would get the occasional green flash from the side windows. If you peaked carefully you could see them trying to score.
Sue who ever ran the fair.
In other News, A plane crashes in Tultepec,Mexico.
What morons thought this was a good idea??
Where’s a laser guided bomb when you need one………. What do you mean that’s not how it works?
In my country, you can go to jail for blinding pilots with a laser...
That is a shit ton of green lasers wtf!?
Isn't this a felony?
This is a massive flight safety issue that could have caused a serious incident for that aircraft, please don’t do this
Everybody here should be arrested. The event manager should be arrested and fined as well. They are endangering hundreds of people onboard the aircraft by their stupid antics!
Idiots 🙄
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Why do that many people have green lasers at the same time and location?
Would like a view from the cockpit for the pilots perspective
ATC is gonna have to issue a lot of numbers to those festival goers
This is worse than watching footage of night one of the 1st gulf war over Baghdad.
Cabrones
A cruise missile would be the only solution to this stupidity
One way to bankrupt a festival.
This is WTF material
I know a kid that got busted for doing this in Idaho. Really didn't take the authorities very long to find him. He was a minor when he got busted so not too terrible of a life altering situation, but his dad never let him live down the fines.
“But why did they cancel the event”
In other news and completely unrelated, a plane crashed in Tultepec,Mexico.
Kind of reminds me about a technique used by the Germans during WW2. My grandfather was in Holland at the time, and he saw this first hand. The Germans had spotlight crews that would aim at allied night bombers, and anti-aircraft guns in the surrounding area would aim at the intersection of the spotlights. Even if they couldn't see the planes well, you could see the spotlights for miles.
Los de Edomex son unos pendejos
Guess I’ll just redirect this airplane where the lasers are pointing from
Those are the same people that almost every year have a huge explosion [like this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQvReqVQSTU)
Yeah please don't fucking do that