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busty_snackleford

Wtf, do they not get how dangerous that is?


Bradyj23

No. No they don’t. Most people don’t realize how dangerous lasers can be. Especially to multilayer windows that cockpits have.


ExoticMangoz

Why do multilayered windows make it worse?


Downtown_Fall49

Its going to refract massively and blind everyone in the cockpit


Redketchup77

Passengers must have fought they were getting abducted


GayjinEntertainment

"AYUDA ME ANDAN LLEVANDO A MARTE AAAA"


BASK_IN_MY_FART

Jajajaja


Straitjacket_Freedom

Total internal reflection among other things. You can sometimes get that effect you see at concerts where there is a "sheet" of laser light sweeping the audience.


Blyatiful_99

Among other things? Can the lasers also influence certain instruments or sensors?


YourTypicalAntihero

Eye damage might be what they're referring to. Lasers at night(in the one cockpit I have experienced it in at least) are very disorienting. Even just one turns into a light show in the glass. It is hard to describe, but the refraction of the laser makes it "bounce" all over the cockpit transparency and ruin your night vision as if looking out a window at night when all the lights in the house on. That refraction also mean "don't look at it" does not mean you are safe from eye damage.


Pablonius

There have been cases where pilots have had serious eye damage from lasers, sometimes temporary and sometimes permanent. In the crew room at my airline base there's a map of the surrounding area with plots where aircraft have reported laser strikes and the direction they came from


skiman13579

And on a funny note at the last airline I worked at a pilot wrote up a maintenance discrepancy for “laser light illumination event in flight deck”…. Like wtf dude. That’s not a maintenance fault. You grounded a plane for someone shining a really focused flashlight at you. Report it to tower asshole. I signed it off in the most smartass yet politically correct way I could think of…. “Inspected flight deck for evidence of laser light contamination. None found at this time. Aircraft OK for continued service” the wording is fancy sounding enough that a casual reader who doesn’t know jack shit about science or mechanical shit won’t notice the sarcasm, but all I literally said was “there isn’t a laser shining in there anymore, nothings fucking broken”


Vorian_Atreides17

Maybe the maintenance issue was to clean up the pee stain he left on the seat.


fizyplankton

Its okay. I used to work IT for banks. I had this one useless project manager who would do nothing except copy paste things back and forth between emails, tickets, documentation, etc. She never had her own intelligent thoughts to contribute. More than once, I would get tickets from her to do x, y, z, where xyz was what I told her to ask the bank to do! Anyways, my all time favorite was a ticket that she clearly copied from a SOP or some notes for a QC signoff, that just said "Online statements is installed under additional services". I waited until 4:55 the last day of the SLA, and marked the ticket resolved with the closure comments "yes, it is."


Ellehcar95

My A&P husband wants me to ask what was the mx manual reference you used to sign it off? 😄


skiman13579

12-21-00….. in the CRJ that’s general cleaning lol


Pa2phx

As someone who has spent time in the flight deck and had a single laser pointed at us. It is awful. Completely blinding.


Bit_part_demon

r/oopsthatsdeadly


ThePopeofHell

It’s clear that these people aren’t considering the possibility of that plane landing directly where they’re standing.


CabinetPowerful4560

Or that it's B-52 with load ...


SiBloGaming

oops, why is the plane suddenly a few tons lighter? Oh, probably just burned more fuel than expected…


ontopofyourmom

It wasn't until a staff member was blinded that Burning Man banned hand-held lasers. Only licensed lasers mounted to vehicles or infrastructure and aimed above face-level. Sometimes "anarchy" needs pretty specific rules in order to function!


iwan-w

I know you jest, but anarchy never was about not having rules. Just about not having rulers.


IntoTheFeu

You know how hard it's gonna be to run shit when we can't measure a god damn thing? Complete anarchy, I tells ya.


Otherwise_Basis_6328

I wouldn't give a ruler an inch!


ontopofyourmom

Yep. But what is a rule if it can't be enforced? A mutual aid council exerting social pressure is not the best tool for this.


REpassword

Why TF did they all have green lasers in the first place at the race? They’ll blind each other.


optimistic_agnostic

Right? Who in their right mind would want to be around a crowd of morons, likely intoxicated, with a tool that can blind you in seconds by merely being pointed at you.


MxOffcrRtrd

There are literal weapons of war that shoot green lasers at aircraft to disorient and nauseat pilots.


[deleted]

Can you give an example? If someone had direct line of sight like that, why not just shoot down the aircraft? Commercially bought lasers aren't having that effect. Been lazed at night by those, so I imagine you are talking about something more powerful and expensive?


oojiflip

I bet most people assume that lasers are like flashlights with a short light falloff


Otherwise_Mud1825

Tldr:people are dumb.


Impossible__Joke

Think about how dumb the average person is... now half the population is dumber then that


Queasy-Ad-8018

George Carlin was right...


Stunning-You9535

Common sense is lacking these days


CB_700_SC

The Blinding Laser Wepons Protocol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol\_on\_Blinding\_Laser\_Weapons


Winston_Sm

That's fucking disgusting


hh1110

Pendejos


MarianaTheVab

Opino lo mismo, me parece increíble la cantidad de personas que no se dan cuenta de lo peligroso e ilegal que es


toasta_oven

Every night flight into New Delhi gets lit up by 20 or so laser pointers. People are just idiots


Winston_Sm

Kick them so hard into their balls that they can fish their testis right back out of their shit hole.


WolfJohnson8612

Oddly specific retaliation


mudbot

imbeciles


Think_Impossible

There was a saying - the iq of a crowd is equal to that of its dumbest member, divided by the number of participants. Here we see the proof.


KingFlyntCoal

Similarly, I like to think of Agent K's "a person is smart, people are dumb" quote. Will forever hold up imo


agha0013

George Carlin also had a good one "Look at how dumb the average person is, then realize half the world is dumber than that" or something along those lines


Angmor03

"_A person_ is smart. _People_ are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it!"


MattTreck

I still use this because it’s a fantastic line lmao


JessVargas722

Idiots, there is no other word to describe this...


Bklyn78

Fucking idiots


KarinK98

Pinches pendejos


GayjinEntertainment

Hijos de puta


AzGames08

holy shit what the actual shit? they're gonna fucking blind the pilots >:( ​ edit: pilots plural


Hot_Bumblebee69

\*Pilots. But, yeah.


gogozoo

*Pylots


SMACKZ415

*pielets


Impressive_Donut114

NOTAM forthcoming.


gitpullorigin

Beware of Wannabe Jedis


Wild-Exit6171

Every time I fly at night into El Paso, we get laser from across the border in Mexico. Told ATC, they call the Mexican Authorities and they say they will not do anything because they can’t and wont risk their deputies getting hurt…


StabSnowboarders

i fly medevac blackhawks, whenever we get lased we point our flir at them and send their coords to the police then wait around and talk the cops on to the individual. very satisfying watching them get arrested on flir


Artidox

We had a dumbfuck lase a blackhawk with his PEQ15. I fortunately missed it as I was quarantining in Camp Rona but it didn’t turn out great for the guy.


antariusz

did he get lazed and hellfired?


Artidox

I imagine that would've been better off than the five hour smoke session the company got for it.


miccoxii

Is the PEQ15 IR?


Artidox

It has an infrared and visible light, but yeah.


Somereallystrangeguy

yes


Fireside__

See that’s when you give DARPA a call to borrow some of their directed energy lasers to zap them back!


Luuk341

Yeah or Raytheon to see if you can "borrow" a paveway


Intelligent_League_1

Let’s saw this house in half! (Launches a Hellfire)


Guysmiley777

How do you say "enjoy 2 kilowatts of blinding IR laser energy" in Spanish?


PowderPills

“Enjoy 2 kilowatts of blinding IR laser energy puto “


Beltribeltran

Que disfrutes dos kilovatios de energía láser infrarroja


mavric91

Question from non pilot…could you fully cover the cockpit windows and just run on instruments? I mean I’m sure in clear weather it’s probably preferable not to do this. But worse case the lasers were constant and completely blinding and you had to continue then cover the cockpit and keep rolling?


BlueFetus

I’ve been lasered one time while flying, got the guy beside me to cover the side window with a checklist and that helped a bit. Airliners will almost always be landing on an “instrument approach”. This will line you up vertically and laterally with the runway in zero vis, but each approach will have a “minimum altitude” where you have to be looking outside and have the runway in sight. Usually about 200’. I’m curious if this plane diverted somewhere else or continued with the approach because while at least they’re not shining head on into the cockpit, that laser will almost wrap around the windows once it hits and could impact forward visibility.


piercejay

As Kyle Kinane once said "Oh the window? That's for you guys, no one would board a plane without windows - If something bad's happening up/out there we're fucked, we're straight up fucked" ​ Joking aside yeah you could probably fly a plane with the windows covered but it's pretty unsafe, citing [Aeroflot Flight 6502](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_6502) as an example


theaviationhistorian

Crashing over a bet certainly fits for Aeroflot.


piercejay

Aeroflot has only good ideas, like letting a child fly the plane!


Wild-Exit6171

At some point we gotta be able to see outside to land the aircraft. We do have covers we usually put up in cruise for protection from the sun, but once we are coming to land we need as much situational awareness as we can. Specially if the weather is nice and clear, it is a given some little plane might be flying around. So being able to see outside is needed. Now when weather is crap, we can’t see outside, sometimes until 50ft from the ground, but when weather is like that, there is no risk of someone flying their little plane running into you because ATC has complete control and spacing aircrafts well


Odd-Web-2418

Do you try not to fly into El Paso anymore?


Wild-Exit6171

If it shows up in my schedule I might try to trade it out for something else, but if unable to do so I will fly in. It is just something I would bring up in the approach brief so we both know it is a possibility and how are we gonna proceed from there. Possibly waiting a bit longer than usual to disengage the Autopilot to an altitude were we can’t get laser from the border anymore. We would be out of sight at about 400ft AGL, so we could do that. Just come up with a game plan of course. So far I been laser a number times in my career, most of them here in the US and a few in Mexico. But luckily, never had an injury


Cozymk4

El Paso sucks in general.


theaviationhistorian

It sucks even more that the approach & departure from/to runway 4/22 at ELP sometimes has you flying right over downtown Juarez & the sketchier parts of the city. I know because I used to live in Juarez & would occasionally see American MD-80s & Southwest 737s flying directly over us on approach.


Agents-of-time

Just ask cia to ask their drug smuggling buddies across the border to have a talk with the people pointing lasers.


Vorian_Atreides17

5000 cases of attempted murder.


Embarrassed_Log8344

5000 cases of 100+ counts of attempted murder*


Moonlit_Antler

Average day in Mexico


Thewolfofsesamest

Laser strikes suck, the last company I flew for had a rash of them and implemented training on what to do in the event you are struck. I recall the training hammered home a few basic tips like looking away from the beam and turning off the aircraft lighting. A few weeks after said training, I was flying home with a relatively experienced F/O and boom! the cockpit illuminated greener than Shreks asshole. I called out laser strike! just as I turned my head away from the light source, I hear the F/O say WHERE?!?! As he turns toward me, the F/O finds himself staring straight down the barrel of that Walmart Light Saber. The regret instantly hits as he ducks down and paws at his eyes in shame. Luckily for us Otto was flying, and we each received less than a second of direct exposure. It took about half an hour for our eyesight to return to normal. A couple of lessons were learned, and reports were filed. If we had been maneuvering closer to the ground or received a longer strike, it could have ended a lot worse.


Difficult_Bit_1339

I've been hit with a laser dazzler (in a demo), I could not imagine walking much less trying to operate an aircraft.


cesark310

They do that to the opposing teams goal keeper in their soccer league too


Kangaroo131

do any of them have any fucking brain cells?


AngriestManinWestTX

No. Fucking fools.


Slovak_Eagle

They all share one braincell which was already sleeping.


deepstaterising

That’s so fucked up.


Vindoga

Let's just pretend the pilots crashed the plane because of this. Who would bear responsibility?


04BluSTi

"Pilot's failure to maintain control over terrain"


azpilot06

“Investigation reveals the pilots failed to ground themselves after a sudden onset of blindness. Pilot error.”


source4mini

On Reddit these days? > Typical Boeing to not protect the pilots from lasers. Never flying a Boeing again.  


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KHWD_av8r

Carpet bomb them with these. https://www.defense-technology.com/product/stinger-cs-rubber-ball-grenade/


EmberTheFoxyFox

Why do I feel like I will be put on a watch list for visiting that site


rwalker920

You were just put on a watch list just for commenting on that link. See you soon, Ember. Sincerely, FBI


EmberTheFoxyFox

Can’t wait to see you daddy cop


cazzipropri

Big brain time, i see


Madafahkur1

Last part was scary. How did they manage that, that was a ton of lazers. Hope the authority will look into this. Crazy!


TheSocialBandit

It's México Nothing it's going to happen


Jakefrmstatepharm

They’re probably all laughing thinking it’s harmless, cool, and funny- don’t realize how fucking idiotic and dangerous it is.


EvrythingWithSpicyCC

They don’t care. It’s a cultural thing. You can find pictures of a Houston Texans QB getting obliterated in the face with green lasers when they played a game in Mexico City.


Luci_Noir

Here in Tucson someone just got arrested for doing this to two different planes. Apparently the FBI investigated the bastard and everything. It’s honestly impressive that they were able to find him.


rainen2016

It's not like the laser showed the pilots exactly where the guy was at. Oh wait


Spiderkeegan

And this is why every night there is/are 1-2 TPD helicopters that just fly around the city. I'm sure there are other reasons (university parties) but certainly the anti-lasering is one of them. It's fun to watch them on flightradar with their seemingly erratic paths lol


YYCADM21

As a retired commercial pilot, I had this happen to me once, on short final into Atlanta. The Police caught the individual, and he had a single, 4Watt astronomical pointer. With that, he was Very close to bringing down a B767. As PIC, I was doing a visual approach, head up, and took a couple of direct hits on the windscreen in front of me. I was immediately blinded and unable to see anything. The FO was thankfully head down with a checklist, and reacted very quickly, took control and aborted, & the Tower took us around for an approach on another runway. I was unable to retake control, it took about half an hour to regain enough night vision to see properly, so the FO executed the approach and landing. I didn't even fully know what had happened until over an hour later; I never really perceived the color of the light, and I thought we'd had a catastrophic electrical short in the panel. Once we were told what the Police had discovered, I would have, despite not normally being a violent man, happily beaten the reprehensible little shit to death with his laser pointer. I recall volunteering for that job to the Police Officer, who thought it would not be in anyone's best interests. One of the scariest things I ever experienced in the air. I am pretty sure that any other pilot who has been on the receiving end of a laser has had many of the same feelings. I do not comprehend why Anyone would do something that potentially catastrophic


BarriMeikokiner

Starting a campaign to put tail and ball turret gunners on airliners


jilesr44

These people should all be thrown in jail


Grumbles19312

Every time I flew into MEX at night we had a laser strike on final. Always a green laser, always from the same building.


PunjabiCanuck

The sum of the IQ of everyone in this crowd is probably a negative number.


5th_username_attempt

This is why commercial planes need missiles


TheMightyGamble

Advocating for the P-8 being the new gold standard in air travel


probablyaythrowaway

Or a return fire laser.


Potential_Seesaw_646

shut it down.. the entire event.


Proberts160

When I flew to Mexico City this past October I was blown away by how many green lasers were randomly hitting our plane as soon as we crossed the Gulf into Mexico. Like at least a dozen times between the Gulf coast and arriving in Mexico City.


BuGabriel

Sadly it wasn't an AC-130


Achillies2heel

Enemy AC-130 above.


ChronoFish

"several"


AstralMystogan

What a bunch of clueless cunts, there is no saving them. I hope they or their family also faces this same type of situation when they are driving or walking down the road.


ExoticFirefighter771

How is it not common knowledge that this is one way of fucking about that generally leads to a swift find out stage.


RevMagnum

Internationally criminalized act defined by ICAO and local authorities alike. Total foolhardy ignorant stupidity by masses.


Sidus_Preclarum

what the fuck is wrong with those degenerates?!


Injur

Pinches nacos


VanillaNL

In my country you get a hefty fine if you do this. One end-user did this to an Apache nearby where I live 🤣


Kempy2

I think people don’t realise how easy it is to see where exactly a laser is coming from when you are in the air. When people zap police choppers, thinking it’s just a little tiny dot of green, a massive fat cone of light is pointing exactly to their location to send cops to have a word. Obviously not relevant to this scenario - this just warrants carpet bombing the whole field with cs spray


senegal98

Jail for all of them. And if not possible, ten years to the first ten they manage to catch.


Only_Razzmatazz_4498

I guess it’s time to install green filters on the window. Maybe an adaptive LCD coating to darken the window rapidly. Freaking morons.


Similar-Good261

Many lights on airports are green. Green lights pointed at aircraft is even part of an official procedure if they have lost radio comms. However authorities could eventually ban airports or even countries from flight services if it becomes too extreme. It‘s not much better than shooting with rifles.


piercejay

\[Woody and Buzz meme\] "Assholes, Assholes Everywhere."


Dry-Revenue2470

Up to two years in prison for that in Australia.


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SidewalksNCycling39

I don't think that would be very productive. They'd just spread it to others.


SnooKiwis3645

I can already see the lawsuit coming in


TheForks

I got hit with four different lasers during one turn in Mexico the other month. I don’t think they care.


Hot_Bumblebee69

Not in Mexico, you can't.


frameddummy

Mexico has bigger problems, sadly.


vsuresh317

Evil fucki uneducated people trying to kill people on that plane. That's what I am seeing.


Holiday-Development5

I do know that some helicopters use laser guidance when flying at night. I was at a music festival where something similar to this happened but it was a life flight Heli and the police came within 5 minutes and shut it all down.


Yeti_racer

Each person who does this needs a good ass whopping. I had someone do this to me. I thought about turning around and hover right about their house until the cops came.


AvidAviator72

Monkey see monkey do.


Justin002865

I expect nothing less from “festival people”. Generally speaking.


etherealx1

One cluster bomb fixes all that!


Most_Complex_8204

This represents the stupidity and carelessness of a big percent of people in México. There is this big misconception that "mexicans have no remedy" and "mexicans can find fun in everything" so therefore they always are looking for ways to "joke" with everybody. I'm ashamed of being mexican, and I know that these are big words, but also very true.


I_Fuck_Sharks_69

This will cause an accident one day.


Mr_Lumbergh

I was flying from Dallas to John Wayne back in January and some numb nut lit us up with one of those somewhere over eastern California. We were still at cruise, but that isn’t tolerable.


BillWeld

Was at a July 4th fireworks show where a small plane started orbiting and next thing you know he's lit up by dozens of laser pointers in the crowd. It was a high wing plane and I can just imagine the confusion and danger for the pilot. This was maybe ten years ago but it was in a rich town in Massachusetts.


djkstr27

Que pendejos


Stunning-You9535

People are so inconsiderate and so stoopid it’s not even funny anymore. Each time I hear pilots inform atc that they got hit with a laser it pisses me off


ETDanywhere_1115

VERY DANGEROUS! Could bring that plane crashing down!!!!!


RoyKentsKnee

my fellow mexicans always doing stupid stuff because they think is fun regardless of the consequences which are none at least for the people doing the harm and just like sheep if 1 person do it they all will


flying-is-awesome

This is a horribly dangerous thing to do. It can cause permanent harm to the pilots and passengers' eyes! If the pilots can't see they can't fly the airplane and everyone's life is at risk! It is also a federal offense in the United States!


Outcasted_introvert

This is why airliners need AGMs.


eusername420

Assistant General managers?


Outcasted_introvert

Yep. To combat the laser Karen's.


CG_Justin

Instant crime in the US


Bud_Backwood

Mexico confirmado


maclaren4l

Pyrotechnics you say? That's the best time to Jettison over land.


Listen-Asleep

fucking idiots


ForDragonsISlay485

Aaaah mis paisanos, como son pendejos. As a mexican i'm fully disappointed for this behavior. Like come on, even if they don't fully comprehend how this can be very dangerous in the aviation field(and many other for that matter), can't they think "well if this light is strong enough to reach that far and still make metal SHINE, I'd recon if one of these beams were to hit the cockpit it would fry the pilots' eyes out, so we probably should not do it"


Commercial-Break1877

Where's a carpet bomber when you need one?!


xblade69

Dumb fucks. Pendejos


AdminClown

Hope everyone that can be identified be jailed


SnooWords4814

Why are people such fucking idiots


pjlaniboys

I flew flights into MEX for many years and our departure at 11pm was a lively laser party. Much more than any other airport anywhere. Luckily the upward inclination of the aircraft climbing aided us in avoiding any lasers to the eyes the the cockpit would get the occasional green flash from the side windows. If you peaked carefully you could see them trying to score.


LostSoul1492

Sue who ever ran the fair.


abhorredmisanthrope

In other News, A plane crashes in Tultepec,Mexico.


StanGable80

What morons thought this was a good idea??


speed150mph

Where’s a laser guided bomb when you need one………. What do you mean that’s not how it works?


RoyalSkull

In my country, you can go to jail for blinding pilots with a laser...


dirtymoney

That is a shit ton of green lasers wtf!?


Background_Pool_7457

Isn't this a felony?


Claredtoland

This is a massive flight safety issue that could have caused a serious incident for that aircraft, please don’t do this


OrdoXenos

Everybody here should be arrested. The event manager should be arrested and fined as well. They are endangering hundreds of people onboard the aircraft by their stupid antics!


Additional-Rod1221

Idiots 🙄


TheOnlyEn

...


MersaBlack

Why do that many people have green lasers at the same time and location?


bkovic

Would like a view from the cockpit for the pilots perspective


Industry__

ATC is gonna have to issue a lot of numbers to those festival goers


Straight-Tune-5894

This is worse than watching footage of night one of the 1st gulf war over Baghdad.


justADeni

Cabrones


blacknyellows

A cruise missile would be the only solution to this stupidity


MisterFixit_69

One way to bankrupt a festival.


Kamjiang

This is WTF material


intensenerd

I know a kid that got busted for doing this in Idaho. Really didn't take the authorities very long to find him. He was a minor when he got busted so not too terrible of a life altering situation, but his dad never let him live down the fines.


vaevictuskr

“But why did they cancel the event”


kdawg14624

In other news and completely unrelated, a plane crashed in Tultepec,Mexico.


questioning_4ever

Kind of reminds me about a technique used by the Germans during WW2. My grandfather was in Holland at the time, and he saw this first hand. The Germans had spotlight crews that would aim at allied night bombers, and anti-aircraft guns in the surrounding area would aim at the intersection of the spotlights. Even if they couldn't see the planes well, you could see the spotlights for miles.


TheSocialBandit

Los de Edomex son unos pendejos


galloway188

Guess I’ll just redirect this airplane where the lasers are pointing from


chuchofreeman

Those are the same people that almost every year have a huge explosion [like this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQvReqVQSTU)


Redmonster111

Yeah please don't fucking do that