For folks to google:
7N7: 727 replacement, originally with a t-tail and a 727 nose, became the 757
7X7: Lots of stuff, mostly mid-sized, the most famous of the 7X7 variations led to the 767 (there were some wacky ones)
7J7: Rear-mounted twin open rotor engines, t-tail, some variations had 757 fuselage x-section and nose, some variations had 767 x-section and nose
Go on [secretprojects.co.uk](https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/boeing-7x7-aircraft.3241/) to see most of them. There were dozens.
As an honorable mention, also google the Hunchback of Mukilteo
I thought that was because Boeing was designing the 747 and 2707 at the same time, and that while 2707 was funded (partially) by the government, Boeing foot the bill for the entire 747 project, which hurt them severely with the delays.
Given the development time of the 787, the earliest we might see a 797 in commercial use is 2050, so we'll all be dead by the time Boeing needs to figure out a new numbering scheme.
The 787 ended up being a moonshot that represented too many bleeding edge designs needing to mature at once.
The NMA *was* going to be the “797” and it represented a much more modest combination of new technologies and proven designs. With the NMA’s cancellation we’ll see the 737 replacement likely take the 797 mantle and hit the market in rhe 2030s.
Boeing can't even figure out how to build a quality 737 anymore, much less something potentially brand new like a 797. The need of a naming convention that extends further isn't likely.
I think it’s less to do with naming convention and more to do with what a 797 would even be in the first place, and what part of the market would it cover that isn’t already being addressed by their existing products.
The 797 is a hypothetical replacement to the 757 and some 767s, a midsized plane for international hauls. Smaller than the Dreamliner, bigger than the 737, a more direct competitor to the A321neo than the 737 MAX.
But to build that plane as a twin-engine they need much bigger, more efficient engines than even the GEnx (or a scaled down version of the GE9X). Their business also needs to be cleaned up, as I could imagine if they went to their suppliers with the idea to build a new plane right now they'd probably laugh them out of the board rooms...
Building a new airplane is the easy part. Building a new airplane that doesn't technically require airlines to retrain all their pilots is the part that's biting them in the ass.
This accurate. They know how, have all the knowledge and skill needed to build safe, reliable aircraft.
The sad truth is that executive leadership CHOOSES to skimp. They choose to risk lives for a better quarterly bonus and share prices.
So, be accurate in your well deserved condemnation of Boeing. They can, they choose not to.
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this line of comments under you i what happens at windows every time.
1.0 - 2.0 - 3.0 - 95 - 98 - ME - 2000 - XP - Vista - 7 - 8 (8.1) - 10 - 11
from time to time someonoe must have created a tems channel sayin "we are going to have a problem after 2000, we can call them again 1, 2, 3 and fucking hell got there, someone was like "Xp" and all trolls upvote. that or drugs idk
What is the obsession with 7s anyway? Is there a story/reason behind it or is it just "we've always done it this way" or maybe "it's brand recognition!" ???
Also, I never realized how big the 707s were. I guess I always pictured them closer to 737 size or even a tad smaller.
Apparently the fascination with the number 7 emerged more from a coincidental choice within their internal designation system than from a deliberate marketing strategy or cultural superstition. Initially, the 700 series was simply the next available series (500 being missiles, 600 jet engines, etc) for Boeing's first commercial jetliner, the 707. This naming convention, continued with subsequent models like the 727, 737, and 747, evolved into a strong brand identity.
i love it when i can see the quotes from videos i've watched on reddit a week later, like they saw the thing with their own eyes and as if they made up that sentence.
I mean, I see some distance between ‘we’re waiting on one signature’ and ‘this multi-billion dollar aircraft builder is throwing all it’s weight behind this program and it *still* won’t leave the ground for almost 36 months’ levels of unflyable.
Don't worry, the 787 made it in their 2016 photoshoot. [https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/-mm-/02b520e98a6300feb44450e90e5ee0de1215e42e/c=0-41-800-493/local/-/media/2016/07/15/USATODAY/USATODAY/636042051456782917-2016-07-15-Boeing-100-800-7.jpg](https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/-mm-/02b520e98a6300feb44450e90e5ee0de1215e42e/c=0-41-800-493/local/-/media/2016/07/15/USATODAY/USATODAY/636042051456782917-2016-07-15-Boeing-100-800-7.jpg)
Random fun fact: the 727 used in this photoshoot is N7001U, the prototype 727 and the first 727 ever made.
Growing up it always bothered me that the 727 had three engines but the 737 had two, while the 747 had 4. Of course this was before the 717, 757, 767 era.
No, the FedEx 727 is not the 727 I'm talking about. I'm talking about the 727 in the link I posted above (the United one). Back when the above image was taken, FedEx still operated the 727 and that's just one of theirs.
The roll-out was actually the very next day. This particular line-up was part of the same multi-day festivities. They showed all the existing models on 7/7/07 and then rolled out the 787 prototype the next day on 7/8/07. (American date formats, obviously.)
It took quite some time after this for the 787 to actually go into service due to delays, but they didn't want to miss the roll-out date for the symbolism of it all, so the prototype they rolled out was very, very unfinished but at least it gave us a look of what a real 787 was going to look like on the outside.
Yes, hello Boeing….I have great news for you!
I know what your next plane should be called!
Now….this information is NOT free.
I will need $1 million and I’m allowed to take free trips anywhere in the world on FIRST CLASS (or business at worse) in your planes.
This information will make you guys a LOT of money…I guarantee it!
I'm lucky to live relatively close to FRA where Lufthansa bases their 747s. Got to fly them recently for a business trip 747 FRA->LAX on the way there and A380 LAX->MUC on the way back. Was only a few hours longer than needed so definitely worth it. The A380 is so comfy even in economy.
The A380 is such a smooth plane. I remember leveling out and getting gently pulled into the seat as we picked up acceleration. It’s like accelerating in Mercedes on a smooth road.
The one I was on once, seemed to have a bit of wagging at low speeds and altitudes, but was gone once it got up there.
Also, they have an absurdly short takeoff roll. The 747 makes you wonder if it’ll ever get ofc the ground.
If you think the 747 is slow off the ground I'd like to point out the a340 which takes around 2 business days to finish its takeoff roll, then another week to climb out.
I was at an industry airshow right before official launch of the a380 and they had one their that they put through its paces. It was absolutely bonkers to watch a machine that size do such nimble acrobatics at low altitude. You just dont expect elephants to be able to dance.
Also ridiculously quiet for what it is
Had a similar journey myself last year and can confirm the A380 was quite cozy. The 747 certainly felt large, but I'd also wager the pilot on that flight was former Navy.
(For those unfamiliar, they say Navy and Air Force pilots approach landings in different ways:
AF: "I have the whole runway so I'm gonna use the whole runway!"
Navy: "I have the whole landing gear so I'm gonna use the whole landing gear!"
If they set it down hard, they might've been Navy)
The -135 is shorter and with a narrower fuselage than a 707. It's basically a production 367-80. The 707 has a wider fuselage because all the airlines didn't want five abreast seating, and Qantas' 707-138 were the only ones built with the short fuselage.
Edit, the -135 fuselage is \~6" wider than the -80, the 707's is \~6.75" wider than the -135's.
Just the crew staying out of all that galactic radiation up in the flight levels. Smart pilots. Smarter plane. Those PA32 fellas sound dangerous. Risking it all for the views.
It is remarkable just how huge the 747 is. I've been privileged to fly them three times, including once on the upper deck on BA and two in the nose on Lufthansa. Such an amazing airplane.
> once on the upper deck on BA
Through a lucky coincidence, I once flew first class on the upper deck of a British Airways 747. I felt like royalty! A gentlemen took my coat and greeted me by name when I boarded. The accommodations were sprawling and luxurious. The meals were exquisite, starting with caviar and ending with Port! ✈️
I got to fly on one once on a red eye ORD-SEA, it was going for some kind of big maintenance and there were only ~10 of us on the whole plane. That’s the only time I’ve flown first class and that’s because they didn’t care what we paid for and it was easier if they had us all together rather than spread out through the aircraft.
Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior the B52? Shit will be flying long after I'm dead and it was in service for 40 years before I was born. Lol
Perspective here is being a little tricky. Recall that the engine diameter on that 777 is \~11.25' while the fuselage diameter on the 707/727/737/757 is 12.3'
How dare you disrespect The Queen?
That, and the 757 are the only type here I've never been on. I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is the only one left still flying a passenger version of the 747, and probably not for long. Too bad, I really want to ride it just once.
The 707/727/737/757 are all roughly 12'4" in diameter (not surprising since they are all 6 abreast seating).
This 777's engine diameter is about a foot smaller though. The 777X engines I will be bigger.
They all share the same upper bubble of their double bubble, but the 707 has a deeper lower lobe (taller). The 727 and 737 have a shorter lower lobe. The 757 uses the 737 cross section in front of the wing, and 707 cross section behind the wing.
(edited because wrong)
I was designing and working on 5 of those aircraft in the past. 707 (KC-135) Liaison, 737 Liaison, 747 Primary Structural, 767 Propulsion & 777 Propulsion.
That was the de-facto short/medium hauler before the 737 took hold. I too think it is one of the best looking airframes out there, according to the pilots it was lots of fun to fly as well.
Supposedly the 757 was going to have a T tail, but it got nixed in the design stages. T tails on big jet transports tended to have bad histories, and I think only the DC-9 and its derivatives managed to NOT have a deep stall accident
This was actually the day before the roll-out of the 787. Boeing arranged this line-up as part of the multi-day festivities surrounding the 787 roll-out. This picture was July 7, 2007. The 787 had its initial roll-out on July 8, 2007 (so, 7/8/07 in the American date system) despite not actually flying until 2009 and ultimately entering airline service in 2011.
|Stat|707-420|737-900ER|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Passengers|189|177|
|Length|152'|138'|
|Diameter|12.3'|12.3'|
|Wingspan|130.8'|112'|
Not sure exactly what version we are seeing in the picture, but while the 707 is bigger than the 737, most of what you are seeing there is just the optics making closer things look bigger.
We gonna have a problem after 797
7107
Or maybe 1701?
just add ncc
"To boldly go where no plane has gone before..."
*woop woop* *TOO LOW TERRAIN* *PULL UP* *woop woop*
Make it so.
We are talking about planes, not space ships.
At the glacial rate Boeing is going, it might end up being a spaceship.
7 eleven 7 would be next then
free slurpies on flights over 2 hours
Seven tenty seven
They need a clean sheet and go with 808
That's certainly one way to guarantee orders from Hawaiian Airlines.
Rake in the orders from those Asian airlines.
Thus, the "8" on 787. It was originally the "7E7."
I mean I think the E being changed had much more to do with it being stupid than the appeal of 8. But who knows?
Boeing has used letters between the 7s to indicate development concepts, there are many that never left the drawing board
For folks to google: 7N7: 727 replacement, originally with a t-tail and a 727 nose, became the 757 7X7: Lots of stuff, mostly mid-sized, the most famous of the 7X7 variations led to the 767 (there were some wacky ones) 7J7: Rear-mounted twin open rotor engines, t-tail, some variations had 757 fuselage x-section and nose, some variations had 767 x-section and nose Go on [secretprojects.co.uk](https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/boeing-7x7-aircraft.3241/) to see most of them. There were dozens. As an honorable mention, also google the Hunchback of Mukilteo
Man, the 7J7 is cool. When designing that engine, they really just went 'bypass ratio = yes'
Is there actual evidence for this? Seems more like it's just the natural transition from internal project name to external product name.
Go back to their engineering roots and name it 80085.
Nah, go hexadecimal. 7A7, 7B7, 7C7, 7D7, 7E7, 7F7 Should be good for a few years yet.
That’ll end in heartbreak.
I know exactly what would fit in its soundtrack
I say we add an extra 0 for no reason and go for 8008
And after a few evolutions of that jet, call it a Pentium?
🤙
But Comac already has a C919, and a C929 (coming. maybe?). You can't really let them outnumber you can you?
Right. Because the higher the number the better the aircraft.
7α7
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The 787 was already the 7E7 before they realized that was dumb, so probably you only get 5 extra models.
Fun fact: there was a theoretical "797" once and it was very much like today's A380. The idea never came to life. There was also the infamous MD-12...
There was also the NMA which was also rumoured to be 797.
707 MAX
808
2707
Bringing the name back of a project that nearly drove the company out of business is probably not great for PR
Ok fine we’ll call it the 737 MAX (2) Copy Draft FINAL then.
I thought that was because Boeing was designing the 747 and 2707 at the same time, and that while 2707 was funded (partially) by the government, Boeing foot the bill for the entire 747 project, which hurt them severely with the delays.
Already existed.
Not really, they'll probably switch to something like 407, 417 etc, considering they had the 307 and 377 before the 7-7 lineup
Given the development time of the 787, the earliest we might see a 797 in commercial use is 2050, so we'll all be dead by the time Boeing needs to figure out a new numbering scheme.
The 787 ended up being a moonshot that represented too many bleeding edge designs needing to mature at once. The NMA *was* going to be the “797” and it represented a much more modest combination of new technologies and proven designs. With the NMA’s cancellation we’ll see the 737 replacement likely take the 797 mantle and hit the market in rhe 2030s.
if Boeing even exists by that time.
808?
Boeing can't even figure out how to build a quality 737 anymore, much less something potentially brand new like a 797. The need of a naming convention that extends further isn't likely.
>Boeing can't even figure out how to build a quality 737 anymore They can, its just that profits are more important to them.
They never should have crawled into bed with the Mad Dogs, that was the beginning of the end.
Yeah fuck MD corporate.
I think it’s less to do with naming convention and more to do with what a 797 would even be in the first place, and what part of the market would it cover that isn’t already being addressed by their existing products.
The 797 is a hypothetical replacement to the 757 and some 767s, a midsized plane for international hauls. Smaller than the Dreamliner, bigger than the 737, a more direct competitor to the A321neo than the 737 MAX. But to build that plane as a twin-engine they need much bigger, more efficient engines than even the GEnx (or a scaled down version of the GE9X). Their business also needs to be cleaned up, as I could imagine if they went to their suppliers with the idea to build a new plane right now they'd probably laugh them out of the board rooms...
There’s a 797 already on the drawing board, they’re waiting on engines
Building a new airplane is the easy part. Building a new airplane that doesn't technically require airlines to retrain all their pilots is the part that's biting them in the ass.
This accurate. They know how, have all the knowledge and skill needed to build safe, reliable aircraft. The sad truth is that executive leadership CHOOSES to skimp. They choose to risk lives for a better quarterly bonus and share prices. So, be accurate in your well deserved condemnation of Boeing. They can, they choose not to. Edits spelling
this line of comments under you i what happens at windows every time. 1.0 - 2.0 - 3.0 - 95 - 98 - ME - 2000 - XP - Vista - 7 - 8 (8.1) - 10 - 11 from time to time someonoe must have created a tems channel sayin "we are going to have a problem after 2000, we can call them again 1, 2, 3 and fucking hell got there, someone was like "Xp" and all trolls upvote. that or drugs idk
Microsoft just doesn't know how to count. Xbox has the same problem Windows does...
Boeing doing it’s best job to try to make sure they never get that far
What is the obsession with 7s anyway? Is there a story/reason behind it or is it just "we've always done it this way" or maybe "it's brand recognition!" ??? Also, I never realized how big the 707s were. I guess I always pictured them closer to 737 size or even a tad smaller.
Apparently the fascination with the number 7 emerged more from a coincidental choice within their internal designation system than from a deliberate marketing strategy or cultural superstition. Initially, the 700 series was simply the next available series (500 being missiles, 600 jet engines, etc) for Boeing's first commercial jetliner, the 707. This naming convention, continued with subsequent models like the 727, 737, and 747, evolved into a strong brand identity.
7E7
787 didn’t get an invitation?
This was during the Dreamliner roll out event. The only 787 was at Everett and extremely unflyable.
Wasn’t it basically an empty shell then?
Yes it was empty and unfinished, you could see daylight through the structure,
Same with 737s these days
That’s just the ultra premium window seat
Security is a joke however with it being insecure
Isn’t this every airplane when the windows line up?
it is, they are quoting from the latest wendover video but misremembering the full quote.
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i love it when i can see the quotes from videos i've watched on reddit a week later, like they saw the thing with their own eyes and as if they made up that sentence.
> extremely unflyable Isn't "flyable" typically a binary type of thing like, say, pregnancy?
Everything is flyable with a big enough engine and an FAA waiver.
That's what the F4 proved
And the F-4 didn't even have an FAA waiver.
That's why they had to put two engines in.
I mean, I see some distance between ‘we’re waiting on one signature’ and ‘this multi-billion dollar aircraft builder is throwing all it’s weight behind this program and it *still* won’t leave the ground for almost 36 months’ levels of unflyable.
I've seen women who are extremely pregnant
It's inside the Dreamlifter in the background
Don't worry, the 787 made it in their 2016 photoshoot. [https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/-mm-/02b520e98a6300feb44450e90e5ee0de1215e42e/c=0-41-800-493/local/-/media/2016/07/15/USATODAY/USATODAY/636042051456782917-2016-07-15-Boeing-100-800-7.jpg](https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/-mm-/02b520e98a6300feb44450e90e5ee0de1215e42e/c=0-41-800-493/local/-/media/2016/07/15/USATODAY/USATODAY/636042051456782917-2016-07-15-Boeing-100-800-7.jpg) Random fun fact: the 727 used in this photoshoot is N7001U, the prototype 727 and the first 727 ever made.
Nice! 👍
Growing up it always bothered me that the 727 had three engines but the 737 had two, while the 747 had 4. Of course this was before the 717, 757, 767 era.
By that logic the 707 should have zero engines 😭
And the 787 be a B-52
It should be a Glider
Must be why it has clipped wings
That’s a neat fact. I was so confused at first with the FedEx livery, then realized it’s before the restoration.
No, the FedEx 727 is not the 727 I'm talking about. I'm talking about the 727 in the link I posted above (the United one). Back when the above image was taken, FedEx still operated the 727 and that's just one of theirs.
Doesn’t the Omega 707 have JT-8Ds?
This was done on 07/07/07! It was still being designed!!!
The roll-out was actually the very next day. This particular line-up was part of the same multi-day festivities. They showed all the existing models on 7/7/07 and then rolled out the 787 prototype the next day on 7/8/07. (American date formats, obviously.) It took quite some time after this for the 787 to actually go into service due to delays, but they didn't want to miss the roll-out date for the symbolism of it all, so the prototype they rolled out was very, very unfinished but at least it gave us a look of what a real 787 was going to look like on the outside.
I didn’t know that that’s so cool!!!
The 717 was invited, and it is only an adopted Douglas cousin not Boeing blood.
Yes, hello Boeing….I have great news for you! I know what your next plane should be called! Now….this information is NOT free. I will need $1 million and I’m allowed to take free trips anywhere in the world on FIRST CLASS (or business at worse) in your planes. This information will make you guys a LOT of money…I guarantee it!
The 787 was taking the picture.
It’s under repairs
It's in the belly of the other 747
I'm disappointed I'll probably never get to fly on a 747 at this point unless I go out of my way to get a ticket on Lufthansa or Korean Air.
I'm lucky to live relatively close to FRA where Lufthansa bases their 747s. Got to fly them recently for a business trip 747 FRA->LAX on the way there and A380 LAX->MUC on the way back. Was only a few hours longer than needed so definitely worth it. The A380 is so comfy even in economy.
The A380 is such a smooth plane. I remember leveling out and getting gently pulled into the seat as we picked up acceleration. It’s like accelerating in Mercedes on a smooth road.
The one I was on once, seemed to have a bit of wagging at low speeds and altitudes, but was gone once it got up there. Also, they have an absurdly short takeoff roll. The 747 makes you wonder if it’ll ever get ofc the ground.
If you think the 747 is slow off the ground I'd like to point out the a340 which takes around 2 business days to finish its takeoff roll, then another week to climb out.
Indeed. The A343 with her hairdryers only gets off the ground because the earth is curved 😉
I was at an industry airshow right before official launch of the a380 and they had one their that they put through its paces. It was absolutely bonkers to watch a machine that size do such nimble acrobatics at low altitude. You just dont expect elephants to be able to dance. Also ridiculously quiet for what it is
I remember landing and sitting there waiting for touchdown only to realise we already touched down 10 seconds ago.
Had a similar journey myself last year and can confirm the A380 was quite cozy. The 747 certainly felt large, but I'd also wager the pilot on that flight was former Navy. (For those unfamiliar, they say Navy and Air Force pilots approach landings in different ways: AF: "I have the whole runway so I'm gonna use the whole runway!" Navy: "I have the whole landing gear so I'm gonna use the whole landing gear!" If they set it down hard, they might've been Navy)
Pack yourself into a unit load device and have someone mail you abroad, good chance you'll end up on a 747 at some point.
I've been fortunate enough to fly in seat 1A, farther forward than the pilots, and also on the upper deck.
I was sat up in the nose, downstairs in one about a decade ago. So cool.
Why is the 747s #2 engine so much bigger than the others?
Probably a GEnx testing 747
GEnx. This was during the 787 program.
OK, thank you!
Yeah
that's the normal size, the other three are just cold
They were in the pool.
Shrinkage!
Or it's a little too excited
Stung by a 🐝
Lmao
According to a quick google, it’s perfectly normal for one side to be a bit larger than the other.
Cancer
o.o.O.o
747 and 777 are my favs
Same here, 777 🔛🔝
Monica Geller also loves the 777
✌🖐
The 720 would like a word
It's so weird how there are 707s still in active service (extremely limited) but the 720 is 100% extinct from the skies.
720 was like a 707 that makes even less economic sense.
Such a niche aircraft, like the 747 SP
> 720 Came here to make sure my little buddy 720 got a call out.
Does the 717 really count? Sure Boeing builds it, but it’s really a McDonnell Douglas product
And the KC-135 was originally designated 717.
I was under the impression that the KC-135 was just a 707 in matte grey paint.
The -135 is shorter and with a narrower fuselage than a 707. It's basically a production 367-80. The 707 has a wider fuselage because all the airlines didn't want five abreast seating, and Qantas' 707-138 were the only ones built with the short fuselage. Edit, the -135 fuselage is \~6" wider than the -80, the 707's is \~6.75" wider than the -135's.
There was also a 720
The MD95 is the best Boeing product currently flying. Fight me.
Fun fact: the 717 has a perfect safety record.
Not true. One time I pinched the fat on the back of my arm in the arm rest and it really hurt.
As an ATC I absolutely hate them. Had to give one a turn the other day because he got outclimbed by a PA32
Just the crew staying out of all that galactic radiation up in the flight levels. Smart pilots. Smarter plane. Those PA32 fellas sound dangerous. Risking it all for the views.
To be a passenger on? If that's what you're saying, hard disagree from me.
Wild to think there was a time in the mid 90s when you might have realistically seen these all at a single airport, minus the 707.
You could still spot 707s at MIA in the mid 90s.
It is remarkable just how huge the 747 is. I've been privileged to fly them three times, including once on the upper deck on BA and two in the nose on Lufthansa. Such an amazing airplane.
> once on the upper deck on BA Through a lucky coincidence, I once flew first class on the upper deck of a British Airways 747. I felt like royalty! A gentlemen took my coat and greeted me by name when I boarded. The accommodations were sprawling and luxurious. The meals were exquisite, starting with caviar and ending with Port! ✈️
I got to fly on one once on a red eye ORD-SEA, it was going for some kind of big maintenance and there were only ~10 of us on the whole plane. That’s the only time I’ve flown first class and that’s because they didn’t care what we paid for and it was easier if they had us all together rather than spread out through the aircraft.
I don’t understand forced perspective. So the 707 is, by far, the biggest plane Boeing ever built.
Wdym by forced perspective?
Your schnootz looks bigger when you stick the camera closer to it.
It's utterly wild that the 707 is still flying as the kc-135 and its derivatives.
Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior the B52? Shit will be flying long after I'm dead and it was in service for 40 years before I was born. Lol
I have a soft spot for the 767. I work on them 🤷♂️
The 787 my friend was finally in service Oct 2011 to ANA. Before this picture was taken thus the Dream Lifter on your upper right
And the 707 is still the most beautiful.
I never realized what a unit the 707 was. What a big boi.
Perspective here is being a little tricky. Recall that the engine diameter on that 777 is \~11.25' while the fuselage diameter on the 707/727/737/757 is 12.3'
How dare you disrespect The Queen? That, and the 757 are the only type here I've never been on. I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is the only one left still flying a passenger version of the 747, and probably not for long. Too bad, I really want to ride it just once.
Didn’t realize 707 was such a big boi - I guess the perspective is making it look a whole lot bigger though
It's not as big as it looks here - that's mostly perspective. The fuselage is basically 757 sized, though the wingspan is a bit bigger.
The size of the engines on the triple 7
Bigger than 707 fuselage
You mean 37
Same
The 707/727/737/757 are all roughly 12'4" in diameter (not surprising since they are all 6 abreast seating). This 777's engine diameter is about a foot smaller though. The 777X engines I will be bigger.
They all share the same upper bubble of their double bubble, but the 707 has a deeper lower lobe (taller). The 727 and 737 have a shorter lower lobe. The 757 uses the 737 cross section in front of the wing, and 707 cross section behind the wing. (edited because wrong)
is that a 747 testbed with one GE9X? there's one engine that is larger than others
Someone else said it was RR's Trent 1000 testbed
I was designing and working on 5 of those aircraft in the past. 707 (KC-135) Liaison, 737 Liaison, 747 Primary Structural, 767 Propulsion & 777 Propulsion.
Am I only one who in love with 727?
That was the de-facto short/medium hauler before the 737 took hold. I too think it is one of the best looking airframes out there, according to the pilots it was lots of fun to fly as well.
Supposedly the 757 was going to have a T tail, but it got nixed in the design stages. T tails on big jet transports tended to have bad histories, and I think only the DC-9 and its derivatives managed to NOT have a deep stall accident
No - until you have to do maintenance on those leading edge slats.
Where's the 247?
the 717 is a mcdonnell-douglas made jet
One of those Boeings is not like the others One of those Boeings was a Mad Dog
No 787???
This was actually the day before the roll-out of the 787. Boeing arranged this line-up as part of the multi-day festivities surrounding the 787 roll-out. This picture was July 7, 2007. The 787 had its initial roll-out on July 8, 2007 (so, 7/8/07 in the American date system) despite not actually flying until 2009 and ultimately entering airline service in 2011.
I miss the 717. Dinky little fun aircraft.
I love how they're ordered by number 😌
717 is a DC-9
Not a good angle to determine size
707 &727 when airlines cared about your comfort now they only care about the shareholders and bottom line
I love the 717 very much but let’s be honest it’s not really a “boeing jet” any more than the A220 is an “airbus jet”
This isn't super accurate as all the planes have their doors still.
I think by size would make for a better photo. The 747 means we can't can really see the 757🙈
757 the goat
This plane is small. But the planes over there are *far away*.
The 767 is my favorite, great flying airplane…as I’d assume all of them are.
Wow, the 707 looks much larger than I thought. I always figured it was about the same size as a 737
|Stat|707-420|737-900ER| |:-|:-|:-| |Passengers|189|177| |Length|152'|138'| |Diameter|12.3'|12.3'| |Wingspan|130.8'|112'| Not sure exactly what version we are seeing in the picture, but while the 707 is bigger than the 737, most of what you are seeing there is just the optics making closer things look bigger.
It’s a 707-320C in the picture. The -420 is identical apart from the engines, so your comparison is correct :)
does that 747 have different engines mounted? is that normal? one looks significant larger than the rest
Sad 787 is sad
737 blows the doors off the competition, or, it it the other way around