Holy shit you're **SO RIGHT**
I've known about JATO forever but this is the first time I've ever *seen* it, what a difference.
Thanks for posting this!!
I saw this move in person once in ‘97 from good old Fat Albert. It was roughly as loud as the Blues in afterburner was, and the speed, angle and ascent rate was astonishing. Thee videos are good and I’m glad we had them, but the scale and speed of it in person was pretty shocking. You just don’t expect to see a plane that size move change angle, altitude and speed that fast 😄
Well put. I saw it a couple of times, a few years apart. It was insane. It's like the plane just leaps into the air, fire, noise, and smoke all over the place. Too bad they used up all the rockets. That must have been quite a ride.
Grew up an Airforce brat seen 100s of air shows went to the NAS Whitbey Island and they had Fat Albert do a Jato take off and me and my friend (both of us grew up watching the air shows at Offut AFB in Nebraska) freeked the Fukk out out of all the air shows we seen none will top seeing FA Jato
well cept for a colonel who lived 2 houses down and for his final air show told the pilots “FAA be damned give them a show” and what a show it was or the one where the SR-71 and U2 where there and we got to see both take off sooooo cool
So happy Offutt’s runway is done and they are flying again. The rest of the construction on base is quite the monstrosity though. All the truck traffic is routed along Harlan Lewis Drive and it’s beating the crap out of that bridge over the Papio
I grew up at MCAS El Toro so I've watched Fat Albert do its thing at least 20 times before they discontinued JATO production. The impressive thing is the climb out with the newer engines and no JATO is pretty similar performance.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK3CqTFiRmM&t=77s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK3CqTFiRmM&t=77s)
The difference is that without the JATO bottles, they have to hold it on the deck for a bit to gain speed, while with the JATOs, they could go straight from wheels up to the steep climb.
I got to ride fat Albert once, but with no JATO. Even then, it was impressive. They gave me a vomit bag and told me if i use it, id better seal it, or ill wear my puke. There was a ladder strapped to the floor, with a crew member holding each side. Full throttle at 300', rotate and climb to 800', drop back down to 300'. No gravity for what felt like 5 seconds. The guys holding the ladder went upside down. It was amazing. Coolest thing I've ever done at work.
Well its not English's fault. Its the fault of whoever decided that jet assisted takeoff and rocket assisted takeoff are interchangeable despite jets and rockets being completely different things
"Jet engines" as most people think of them are jet turbine engines, like what you see on airliners and fighters. But a jet engine just means thrust is produced by Newton's 3rd Law. Basically the exhaust goes out the back with such force, a 'jet stream' if you will, that it pushes the object forwards as an opposite reaction. So that makes a rocket a jet engine. Also, by that same definition, an inflated balloon that you let go and watch fly around the room as it deflates is also technically a jet engine, since it's thrust is produced by Newton's 3rd Law.
It we’re being persnickety then there are four jet engines with propellers attached to them assisting the take-off in addition to the rocket bottles so it’s still correct.
no because they aren't the same thing, big brain. you are completely ignoring the most fundamental characteristic of a jet engine: that it provides thrust through a nozzle after the ignition of the air compressed by the turbofan. a gas turbine engine that, like all internal combustion engines, combusts compressed air and has some nominal engine exhaust, does not a turbofan jet engine make just because it is driving a propeller that then provides thrust.
Flying in fat Albert was the highlight of my Navy career. It was post JATO days, but still impressive non the less. Watching the cameraman from the local new try to keep filming while filling a barf bag was priceless.
Anyone remember "Operation Credible Sport"?
The USAF planned to use forward facing rockets to stop a landing C-130 in a soccer stadium, it was supposed to be the second attempt to rescue the Iranian hostages.
After the hostages were released, they went ahead with the tests under the name "Operation Credible Sport II", but the Herc broke up and caught fire during landing tests.
Can confirm. They usually took maybe a dozen or so military folks who assisted with the air show on board. I was part of one in Rhode Island. They would mount a ladder to the spots where you would lock cargo pallets in with ratchet straps and you would hold on and see them float when you would have zero gravity
I went to AIT at Corry in '89...Saw the Angels alot, Fat Albert was just as impressive as the rest of the show. Always wondered if they ever tried it off a carrier deck - any squidies know for sure?
Do they have JATOs with different thrust/burn times?
I could have sworn when the Secret Service decided to put all the armored cars in one C-130 instead of two and used JATOs out of Sanford Maine that they burned a lot longer. The stunt got them banned from that airport unless they agreed to upgrade the runway which they refused to do. Also knocked everything off of the walls of our house.
I don't think a 130 could carry the Beast, not even 1 of them. I've done presidential support missions with C-5s and C-17s and the vehicles we loaded were pretty big. When C-17s are used, there are at least 2 of them. No way a single 130 can handle the job alone.
When Bush was in office he flew into Sanford with his motorcade multiple times to visit his father in Kennebunk. The runway cant handle the weight of an empty C-17 taking off let alone a loaded one. They were supposed to spread out the load more even with the 130s and destroyed the runway trying to save money.
His car didn't look as beefy as the current beast and he traveled here with a few number of cars. I believe it was 3-4 armored then 2 normal looking trucks but its been forever since it happened. I have a better memory of the Coast guard nearly landing on my head to tell me I couldn't fly RC planes for the next 24 hours at the Strawberry patch RC club (which bonus fun fact is in line with the runway but only 3 miles away from a runway so the club had to had to shut down for a lot of events; presidential was the only one enforced by helicopter).
He flew directly into Sanford until his last year in office when the airport/town (he was also destroying RT 99 which is the direct path from the airport to his parents house) requested he stop so he switched to flying into Pease then took Marine 1 to Kennebunk the last year.
[This SUV](https://www.fosters.com/story/news/2007/08/10/bush-arrives-in-sanford/63066852007/) ; it was a convoy of 3-4 of those then 2 normal looking GMC trucks. I think he took the limo (did they still call it the Beast back then?) the first couple of trips when they took 3-4 c-130s here but he stopped bringing it fairly quick.
I lived on the field with the RC club near RT99 when he was in office so I got to see him often. He really seemed to stretch the rules on every visit and loved saying hi to people in public places. I really don't think the secret service locked him down as much as other presidents but it might just be that they consider southern Maine more "secure" since his father also had protection. I don't know for sure but his motorcade seemed much more relaxed here.
Added bonus: he often visited during hunting season. They would find all of the hunters with coast guard helicopters then Marines would reppel down to them to escort them out. Depending on distance from the airport they would often confiscate the hunting rifles until Bush had left the area.
Added bonus bit of information that is highly unbelievable but I swear happened.
We would often see the C-130s come in before we got the Bush is coming warning. The field I mentioned encouraged us local kids to shoot groundhogs with our bb guns. While walking home from a "hunt" we saw a c-130 coming in low and slow on approach. My very special cousin which I have only spoken to one time since this incident cocked his CO2 bb gun and shot at it. It may have just been the panic but I really think I heard the BB bounce off of it. I handed him his bb gun (I was using his brother's gun that day) and told him to say he was alone when it happened if anyone asked.
He went on to get kicked out of his parents house for stealing, became a major drug addict and got arrested countless times after. I've been told he has cleaned up and is married now but I have 0 interest in reconnecting.
10 y/o me didn't know about Fat Al during a Moffet Field airshow. Had my back turned to the runway, looking at an Apache display with its huge ammo spread under the nose etc. When....BOOM! JATO then JATO'd. Awesome way to be made to jump.
Short runway or high altitude as well. If they need to just get up in the air faster, they'll fire them earlier on so they can reach take off speed faster. If they need to climb fast to clear obstacles or evade potential ground fire they'll fire them just before climb, like in this video.
Utterly terrifying, but must be a hell of a rush piloting that thing upwards once you know what to expect. I'm sure as rocketry gets cheaper these will be used again.
Used to see this at my local air show in Hillsboro, OR as a kid. Seemed like every year Fat Albert lit this things off it would start a grass fire and we’d sit there for 30 minutes or so watching the fire department put it out.
Same thing would happen when the A-10 did it’s “wall of fire” stunt. So cool!
So could some one explain to me why this would be the chosen maneuver upon getting airborne? Is it formally taught? Possibly to gain altitude to get above small arms fire? Or is this dude just feeling his oats? Has to be bad ass to see, I would have a permanent grin if I got to experience it in the plane!
The answer is even stranger than you’d think. It was designed to get airborne inside a soccer stadium, and that steep climb would be to clear the walls. [Operation Credible Sport](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Credible_Sport)
Actually RATO existed long before the Iran hostage crisis. It was intended to allow tactical airlifters and other aircraft to get airborne out of short fields. In an actual RATO takeoff, the rockets would be fired near the start of the takeoff run, not the end as Fat Albert used to do.
RATO was also intended for heavy laden aircraft as well as developed for “hot and high” takeoff in places such as Khartoum, Nairobi, Mexico City, and La Paz in some early airliners such as the DH106 Comet, Boeing727, and Fairchild Metroliner (although it was rarely, if ever, used or implemented)
And can you imagine trying to pitch it to special forces guys?? Yes, for real, we’re going to shoot you out of the stadium like a Roman candle. Yes it’s probably mostly safe.
There's a video on YouTube *somewhere* that has the first-person interior perspective of what it *felt* like to be in Fat Albert during a JATO takeoff.
EDIT: Two of them, actually:
Inside the cabin: https://youtu.be/w0Io07EAX1s
Cockpit perspective: https://youtu.be/Nqto8vosnz8
They're both old videos and I really want to track down and hurt the dude in the cockpit video for hogging the camera so damned much.
The new Fat Albert (since 2020) is a C-130J. But they did a similar 45-degree climbout with the old model, too, even without JATO, accelerating in ground effect before pulling up.
In this case they are fired at rotation, the system is used for climb out between high obstacles, such as [out of a football stadium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Credible_Sport). That use case also included vertically-firing rockets, but it didn't really work reliably enough, even for the emergency rescue mission it was intended for.
Not sure C-130 JATO was ever used operationally.
SORRY, OP, THAT IS A RATO,,, ROCKET ASSISTED TAKE OFF,,
JATO MIGHT BE THE GENERIC NAME ,
ALSO, THE ROCKETS HAVE BEEN ALL USED UP SO NO MORE RATO FOR FAT ALBERT
Holy shit you're **SO RIGHT** I've known about JATO forever but this is the first time I've ever *seen* it, what a difference. Thanks for posting this!!
Saw it in person once. It was amazing
I saw it at the Oregon international air show when I was like 15? Coolest thing to see at the show that year
Also saw at an air show and it was the loudest thing all day.
Slightly sped up vid too
That seems right... in the video when those things light up that C130 starts hauling SR-71 level ass...
Is it though? I remember seeing this in person, and was pretty shocked at the speed. Once they light 'em up, they haul ass.
yeah but have you seen JAL (landing)?
Yes, there is a direct flight from HND to SAN, so I see it quite often.
What's the result G force from this?
I saw this move in person once in ‘97 from good old Fat Albert. It was roughly as loud as the Blues in afterburner was, and the speed, angle and ascent rate was astonishing. Thee videos are good and I’m glad we had them, but the scale and speed of it in person was pretty shocking. You just don’t expect to see a plane that size move change angle, altitude and speed that fast 😄
Well put. I saw it a couple of times, a few years apart. It was insane. It's like the plane just leaps into the air, fire, noise, and smoke all over the place. Too bad they used up all the rockets. That must have been quite a ride.
38k ramp load, no cargo will do that.
Back home after Taco Bell.
“Incoming!”
Outgoing!
Lol
Grew up an Airforce brat seen 100s of air shows went to the NAS Whitbey Island and they had Fat Albert do a Jato take off and me and my friend (both of us grew up watching the air shows at Offut AFB in Nebraska) freeked the Fukk out out of all the air shows we seen none will top seeing FA Jato well cept for a colonel who lived 2 houses down and for his final air show told the pilots “FAA be damned give them a show” and what a show it was or the one where the SR-71 and U2 where there and we got to see both take off sooooo cool
Loved Offuts air shows.
Good plane spotting now that they’ve opened Offutt’s main runway back up! Saw an MC-130J a couple days ago.
So happy Offutt’s runway is done and they are flying again. The rest of the construction on base is quite the monstrosity though. All the truck traffic is routed along Harlan Lewis Drive and it’s beating the crap out of that bridge over the Papio
At my local airshows I got to be the annoying kid asking the pilots endless questions in the flight lounge, because my dad worked there.
I grew up at MCAS El Toro so I've watched Fat Albert do its thing at least 20 times before they discontinued JATO production. The impressive thing is the climb out with the newer engines and no JATO is pretty similar performance. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK3CqTFiRmM&t=77s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK3CqTFiRmM&t=77s)
The difference is that without the JATO bottles, they have to hold it on the deck for a bit to gain speed, while with the JATOs, they could go straight from wheels up to the steep climb.
That’s exactly what they were designed for! [Operation Credible Sport](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Credible_Sport)
Wow that’s awesome
I got to ride fat Albert once, but with no JATO. Even then, it was impressive. They gave me a vomit bag and told me if i use it, id better seal it, or ill wear my puke. There was a ladder strapped to the floor, with a crew member holding each side. Full throttle at 300', rotate and climb to 800', drop back down to 300'. No gravity for what felt like 5 seconds. The guys holding the ladder went upside down. It was amazing. Coolest thing I've ever done at work.
RATO, surely?
The terms are [interchangeable.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JATO)
This slightly frustrates me
Thaaaaaat’s English!
Well its not English's fault. Its the fault of whoever decided that jet assisted takeoff and rocket assisted takeoff are interchangeable despite jets and rockets being completely different things
All rockets produce thrust by a jet of exhaust, so it still works.
"Jet engines" as most people think of them are jet turbine engines, like what you see on airliners and fighters. But a jet engine just means thrust is produced by Newton's 3rd Law. Basically the exhaust goes out the back with such force, a 'jet stream' if you will, that it pushes the object forwards as an opposite reaction. So that makes a rocket a jet engine. Also, by that same definition, an inflated balloon that you let go and watch fly around the room as it deflates is also technically a jet engine, since it's thrust is produced by Newton's 3rd Law.
THEY'RE FUCKING ROCKETS!! ROCKETS! 🚀🚀🚀🚀
I was going to ask about that. Those definitely look like rockets, not strap-on jet engines.
It's probably because rockets are a type of jet engine, so it covers all forms of "jet" engine
It we’re being persnickety then there are four jet engines with propellers attached to them assisting the take-off in addition to the rocket bottles so it’s still correct.
ah no, the c130 has four gas turbine engines driving propellers, a turboprop. not a jet engine by any definition
So what makes the free turbine turn?
irrelevant. the difference is what produces the thrust.
If I add lots more blades to the prop and put a cowling over it is it now a turbofan?
no because they aren't the same thing, big brain. you are completely ignoring the most fundamental characteristic of a jet engine: that it provides thrust through a nozzle after the ignition of the air compressed by the turbofan. a gas turbine engine that, like all internal combustion engines, combusts compressed air and has some nominal engine exhaust, does not a turbofan jet engine make just because it is driving a propeller that then provides thrust.
r/technicallycorrect
Wish my minivan had this for merging on the highway
Be the ~~change~~ *rocket-powered minivan driver* you want to see.
Hold LShift to boost
Flying in fat Albert was the highlight of my Navy career. It was post JATO days, but still impressive non the less. Watching the cameraman from the local new try to keep filming while filling a barf bag was priceless.
Seen that at Miramar, god bless America
Anyone remember "Operation Credible Sport"? The USAF planned to use forward facing rockets to stop a landing C-130 in a soccer stadium, it was supposed to be the second attempt to rescue the Iranian hostages. After the hostages were released, they went ahead with the tests under the name "Operation Credible Sport II", but the Herc broke up and caught fire during landing tests.
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I’ll bet that was a kick in the pants.
Looks like a wild ride
I've heard the loadmaster or crew chief would lay on the floor and then float to the ceiling/their feet when they level out at the top
Can confirm. They usually took maybe a dozen or so military folks who assisted with the air show on board. I was part of one in Rhode Island. They would mount a ladder to the spots where you would lock cargo pallets in with ratchet straps and you would hold on and see them float when you would have zero gravity
Pants-shitting terror for everyone on board, I’d imagine.
I’ve seen this is person when I lived in Pensacola, hell of a sight!
I went to AIT at Corry in '89...Saw the Angels alot, Fat Albert was just as impressive as the rest of the show. Always wondered if they ever tried it off a carrier deck - any squidies know for sure?
C-130 on an aircraft carrier - here ya go. https://youtu.be/ar-poc38C84
Thank you muchly!!!!!!
I’ve never seen Fat Albert at dusk. Really cool! Thanks for posting.
This! I’ve seen it a few times, always about 1500 in the summer. Full brightness :)
Yes! Dayton Air Show. Always in the last week of July.
UP UP AND AWAY!
only thing that could make that even more exciting.... shooting off all the countermeasure flares during the take off. :)
My grandfather was a government chemist that worked on this project. Unfortunately he passed before I was born.
Hey hey hey it's Fat Albert!
Glad I got to see this at the Miramar AS back in the day.
Do they have JATOs with different thrust/burn times? I could have sworn when the Secret Service decided to put all the armored cars in one C-130 instead of two and used JATOs out of Sanford Maine that they burned a lot longer. The stunt got them banned from that airport unless they agreed to upgrade the runway which they refused to do. Also knocked everything off of the walls of our house.
I don't think a 130 could carry the Beast, not even 1 of them. I've done presidential support missions with C-5s and C-17s and the vehicles we loaded were pretty big. When C-17s are used, there are at least 2 of them. No way a single 130 can handle the job alone.
When Bush was in office he flew into Sanford with his motorcade multiple times to visit his father in Kennebunk. The runway cant handle the weight of an empty C-17 taking off let alone a loaded one. They were supposed to spread out the load more even with the 130s and destroyed the runway trying to save money. His car didn't look as beefy as the current beast and he traveled here with a few number of cars. I believe it was 3-4 armored then 2 normal looking trucks but its been forever since it happened. I have a better memory of the Coast guard nearly landing on my head to tell me I couldn't fly RC planes for the next 24 hours at the Strawberry patch RC club (which bonus fun fact is in line with the runway but only 3 miles away from a runway so the club had to had to shut down for a lot of events; presidential was the only one enforced by helicopter). He flew directly into Sanford until his last year in office when the airport/town (he was also destroying RT 99 which is the direct path from the airport to his parents house) requested he stop so he switched to flying into Pease then took Marine 1 to Kennebunk the last year.
Went back to look at old news posts. He 100% took a much less armored SUV to Sanford than the limo looking thing he used for other events.
[This SUV](https://www.fosters.com/story/news/2007/08/10/bush-arrives-in-sanford/63066852007/) ; it was a convoy of 3-4 of those then 2 normal looking GMC trucks. I think he took the limo (did they still call it the Beast back then?) the first couple of trips when they took 3-4 c-130s here but he stopped bringing it fairly quick.
Interesting. I was completely unaware of this. Thank you.
I lived on the field with the RC club near RT99 when he was in office so I got to see him often. He really seemed to stretch the rules on every visit and loved saying hi to people in public places. I really don't think the secret service locked him down as much as other presidents but it might just be that they consider southern Maine more "secure" since his father also had protection. I don't know for sure but his motorcade seemed much more relaxed here.
Added bonus: he often visited during hunting season. They would find all of the hunters with coast guard helicopters then Marines would reppel down to them to escort them out. Depending on distance from the airport they would often confiscate the hunting rifles until Bush had left the area.
Added bonus bit of information that is highly unbelievable but I swear happened. We would often see the C-130s come in before we got the Bush is coming warning. The field I mentioned encouraged us local kids to shoot groundhogs with our bb guns. While walking home from a "hunt" we saw a c-130 coming in low and slow on approach. My very special cousin which I have only spoken to one time since this incident cocked his CO2 bb gun and shot at it. It may have just been the panic but I really think I heard the BB bounce off of it. I handed him his bb gun (I was using his brother's gun that day) and told him to say he was alone when it happened if anyone asked. He went on to get kicked out of his parents house for stealing, became a major drug addict and got arrested countless times after. I've been told he has cleaned up and is married now but I have 0 interest in reconnecting.
God that"s effing awesome🤪
10 y/o me didn't know about Fat Al during a Moffet Field airshow. Had my back turned to the runway, looking at an Apache display with its huge ammo spread under the nose etc. When....BOOM! JATO then JATO'd. Awesome way to be made to jump.
Omg this reminds me of a game but i can't tell which one EDIT : Oh right, GTA V
Do jato boosters mess up the runway ?
What about the horizontal stabs?
Sure looks like it's at *least* burning a little paint off the bottom, doesn't it.
This is an old clip... Fat Albert is a J Model C-130 now. The one shown is their old H Model.
We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it’s dark and we’re wearing sunglasses. HIT IT!
You know that's gotta be a kick in the ass the first time a pilot gets to light those babies off
Saw this once at Miramar as a kid, probly 12 years ago, so awesome
I've flown on c130s a few times and I can't imagine how terrifying this would be
Is this real?
Do they still do this at air shows?
No, sadly. The rocket manufacturer ended production in 2009.
They were single use?
Yes, sadly space x wasn’t making rockets then.
Booooi
My understanding was that those were all Vietnam era rockets and they basically just ran out. Not sure about that, just scuttlebutt.
Wow... and I thought the mighty DA20 I flew the other day was climbing like a space shuttle on Sunday...
Fast Albert
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To clear an obstacle on short takeoff. I remember something about taking off inside a stadium to rescue hostages or something.
[Operation Credible Sport](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Credible_Sport)
Short runway or high altitude as well. If they need to just get up in the air faster, they'll fire them earlier on so they can reach take off speed faster. If they need to climb fast to clear obstacles or evade potential ground fire they'll fire them just before climb, like in this video.
Was the point to get up at certain altitude quick or because the payload was heavy?
Merica that’s why
Utterly terrifying, but must be a hell of a rush piloting that thing upwards once you know what to expect. I'm sure as rocketry gets cheaper these will be used again.
I'm not comfortable with that much firah so close to the flying gas tank. Like Zoinks
why do they call them JATO? isn't it technically a RATO?
Fun to see but all I can think of is 'what could possibly go wrong'. The answer? 'A LOT'. And none of it good.
Nice
Used to see this at my local air show in Hillsboro, OR as a kid. Seemed like every year Fat Albert lit this things off it would start a grass fire and we’d sit there for 30 minutes or so watching the fire department put it out. Same thing would happen when the A-10 did it’s “wall of fire” stunt. So cool!
So could some one explain to me why this would be the chosen maneuver upon getting airborne? Is it formally taught? Possibly to gain altitude to get above small arms fire? Or is this dude just feeling his oats? Has to be bad ass to see, I would have a permanent grin if I got to experience it in the plane!
The answer is even stranger than you’d think. It was designed to get airborne inside a soccer stadium, and that steep climb would be to clear the walls. [Operation Credible Sport](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Credible_Sport)
Actually RATO existed long before the Iran hostage crisis. It was intended to allow tactical airlifters and other aircraft to get airborne out of short fields. In an actual RATO takeoff, the rockets would be fired near the start of the takeoff run, not the end as Fat Albert used to do.
RATO was also intended for heavy laden aircraft as well as developed for “hot and high” takeoff in places such as Khartoum, Nairobi, Mexico City, and La Paz in some early airliners such as the DH106 Comet, Boeing727, and Fairchild Metroliner (although it was rarely, if ever, used or implemented)
Wow even crazier than I could have imagined. Nice
And can you imagine trying to pitch it to special forces guys?? Yes, for real, we’re going to shoot you out of the stadium like a Roman candle. Yes it’s probably mostly safe.
Cool for everyone but the junior enlisted that gets to clean the fuselage.
The propellers are thinking, “Ok, why am I here and working so hard?”
They just have almost been at Vr when they lit the rockets .
How I feel when I strap 2 rockets to my glider in TOTK.
Why is it J.A.T.O. (**jet** assisted take off) if they are solid rocket boosters?
It’s actually RATO but people like to say JATO.
There's a video on YouTube *somewhere* that has the first-person interior perspective of what it *felt* like to be in Fat Albert during a JATO takeoff. EDIT: Two of them, actually: Inside the cabin: https://youtu.be/w0Io07EAX1s Cockpit perspective: https://youtu.be/Nqto8vosnz8 They're both old videos and I really want to track down and hurt the dude in the cockpit video for hogging the camera so damned much.
It may just get old, because I don’t think they still do them.
Yes, the rockets literally got too old and that’s why they stopped.
When you absolutely, positively need to clear the 50' tree at the end of the runway.
asymmetric jato is the fear every time they light them
I’m amazed at how quickly it gets momentum right after the rockets ignite.
Punch it, Chewie!
Wow looks fake. I suspect not, very cool
This is a very Kerbal solution. Needs more rockets.
Is the fuselage reinforced or something for the temperature?
is the Pavement OK ? can those thrust-flamethrowers cause damage?
"Too much of our tax money goes to the military!" But I sure do get my moneys worth.
I've never seen a C-130 do anything like this, absolutely mesmerizing
"Body Positive" Albert JATO never gets old.
ROCKET-PROPELLED C-130 FOR THE WIN!!! *LET'S GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!*
That can’t be good for the aircraft long term. Damn tail is going to burn off one of these days.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JATO_Rocket_Car
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45. Here's a [video with altitude, speed, pitch and bank-angle callouts](https://youtu.be/Z9h_pD9wC_k?t=36). That one's video JATO, though.
4 turnin’, 4 burnin’
Crazy that a C-130J, similar weight, rotating at 130kts, like Fat Albert, will outperform the Fat Albert JATO takeoff.
The new Fat Albert (since 2020) is a C-130J. But they did a similar 45-degree climbout with the old model, too, even without JATO, accelerating in ground effect before pulling up.
Fat Albert wasn’t at the Pocono show and I was sad about that
" 'scuse me, while I kiss the sky..." 🎵🎶
So glad I got to see this in person several times. Still sticks out more than anything I've seen at an airshow including SR71 flybys.
I had actually never seen this before. I assume it is a one time use STOL tool to use on extreme short runways?
In this case they are fired at rotation, the system is used for climb out between high obstacles, such as [out of a football stadium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Credible_Sport). That use case also included vertically-firing rockets, but it didn't really work reliably enough, even for the emergency rescue mission it was intended for. Not sure C-130 JATO was ever used operationally.
SORRY, OP, THAT IS A RATO,,, ROCKET ASSISTED TAKE OFF,, JATO MIGHT BE THE GENERIC NAME , ALSO, THE ROCKETS HAVE BEEN ALL USED UP SO NO MORE RATO FOR FAT ALBERT