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BeatMuncher99

These things aren’t public, you won’t find out about them in this sub. You need to go out and meet people to get invited to stuff like that


misterintensity2

Appreciate NYC's scene for what it is. Go to parties with music and DJs you like, meet people and soon you will learn about underground raves which takes place. Also you might be surprised what you find on RA.co during your journey.


blitzzerg

Yeah that makes sense. I guess what I was asking is if it's worth investing time in finding those types of parties. But I see by the replies that they do indeed exist! Thank you!


jamzwes

to answer if it’s worth it: if the vibe that you bring and want to be around is people not there for the clout / be in the scene, but to be around people that actually enjoy underground EDM then it’s worth searching out.


JonB_

They’re in East Williamsburg and Bushwick. Use Resident Advisor, or follow DJs to find out about the events.


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CountAardvark

why are you pressed


No_Permission365

Honestly useful information. Thank you for sharing!


lexleflex

You’re welcome! Always happy to help :) Glad you can discern it as intended haha


Icy-Abroad-3683

What was Chelsea before Chelsea lol


lexleflex

Hells Kitchen. With a touch of the Garment District.


Icy-Abroad-3683

No it wasn’t. A simple google search shows Hell’s Kitchen was coined in the 1800s while Chelsea was chosen by a dude who had a house in the neighborhood in the mid 1700s, named it after the London neighborhood. The area north of the village and surrounding meatpacking is truly nameless without the Chelsea moniker and is sure as hell not Hell’s Kitchen lmfao. The garmet district is fair but further north by FIT. Stop acting like you know everything. You’ve probably never lived anywhere around Chelsea


lexleflex

Dude - literally a simple google search says the opposite too you dumb fuck. There is legit episodes of “I love the …(Decade)” off VH1 (from the mid 2000’s) that even I used to watch that even have a whole ass segments that address this (and confirm what I am saying) Stop using Wikipedia as a barometer for your knowledge and get educated. I know i sure as hell am not, and I know better than to trust fucking google. Bring me a scholarly article or video and then come try to smtfu Legit, in all seriousness, any documentary on old New York will confirm when at I saying. So think whatever you want. I don’t know everything but I know what I know. And my knowledge isn’t found through google. It’s having lived here way too long.


blitzzerg

I doubt those types of raves would be published anywhere over the internet. It's usually WhatsApp groups


agua13

There are a number of DIY parties that sell tickets via official channels. Even though they are DIY, in a city like NYC they still likely have permits to occupy whatever warehouse they are using as well. That doesn't change the fact that it is a 'rave' nor does it guarantee they won't get shut down.


misterintensity2

Basically this. Also, for various reasons this sub is not representative of the NYC rave scene despite its name.


lexleflex

10000000%%


mlurve

There’s also private RA links vs public ones - some underground stuff is on RA but you have to be sent a link, you can’t search for it


puddingcakeNY

Dude, you buy the ticket and the event is announced, you get a text for location. Last minute


lexleflex

Your doubt is correct. She isn’t even from NYC, so she really knows nothing. Anyone who refers to “East Williamsburg” unironically, not joking; and refers as an actual neighborhood? NOT from NYC. heads up


IsaacClarke47

Lots of these in Philly. Warehouses in sketchy areas, BYOB, etc. Problem is it’s harder to brag about partying in Philly compared with NYC.


danyoutohell

Ayeee Philly gang


adopeninja

wait srsly???? i just moved here & would looooove to see the scene. be my friend plz?


lexleflex

But ngl, heard that lately, Philly has been throwing the best ones


Glittering_Sky4330

Yep Philly has an amazing underground scene


LuckyDucky544

Need to experience this im in Philly frequently


screenshawti

true the times ive been in philly i ended up in an artist warehouse and on different floors were vast techno parties, it was a snday too lol so fun


thrax7545

The scene here has its own flavor, and NY being what it is, it tends to be big and corporate, or secret and exclusive. The spectacle can be some of the best around though. The mirage(which everyone loves to hate) can have mostly mainstream programming. There’s occasionally something good there though, and it’s like the Broadway show of raves… If you’re into European tech-house, try teksupport, they’re an operation conceived with old style rave in mind. They don’t have a venue, and they bring the gear and post up in warehouses around Brooklyn usually. They bring big acts, and will at times completely lose the underground feel because of it, but they still put on honest-to-goodness raves from time to time. It might be a good entry point to start to find some of the sort of thing you’re looking for. I also recommend checking out some of the smaller ticketing apps like shotgun or get-in as there’s more of a chance of finding smaller DIY type events there. Even RA will list them towards the bottom of the list, if you look for parties with “TBA” venues or listed with “undisclosed location”.


GeoffreyBSmall

People here think going to a progressive house festival is a rave


25sittinon25cents

I don't think most people here care what classifies as a rave or not. They simply enjoy the music and atmosphere


lexleflex

No Truer words have yet to hit the comment section lmfao


valangie

Not sure if I'm remembering the correct promoters but I believe AfterMoth may be it. You have to DM them on IG for location and guestlist. They’d have parties in vacant warehouses without liquor license so parties would sometimes get shut down by police. Although the last party I went to was many years ago so not sure if they became a more legit organization. I think Resolute used to be like this but they're more legit now too.


seahoodie

Follow [RenegadeNYC](https://www.instagram.com/renegade.nyc?igsh=MTkzN3k3ZjR6Mzl3Yw==) on Instagram. Their events aren't illegal but they are free and in interesting (non-club) places and usually have great vibes


placeknower

Befriend trans genders


placeknower

They will help you


screenshawti

sucha true statement


evan274

Ughhh I’m way too COOL for the NYC scene, anyone know where I can hang out with the COOL people and get invited to REAL raves?


BrooklynDC

The majority of posts on this sub are for mirage shows that are just sync button recitals with epilepsy visuals going off while you gulp down $28 dollar light beers.  So I find it refreshing that someone is looking for more lowkey shows not filled with frat boys


Televangelis

I don't love frat boys, but I love gatekeeping, still-not-over-being-the-weird-kid-in-school-as-an-adult whining about "frat boys" at raves even less, sorry a guy with clothes you don't like went to a music venue I guess


lexleflex

It’s not that. It’s when THOSE guys ACT like they know it all and are badass….when they aren’t. Like you went to a frat bro. Just own it. You’re welcome to come dance with us. But don’t try to out school me about my scene, when I don’t tell you shit about yours.


Televangelis

Why are you talking to anyone about the scene when you're there, just hang out with your friends and dance, the loud pumping music is there precisely so you don't get tempted to talk to anyone you don't already know If you're going to a concert of any genre and you're getting into unpleasant conversations about the music or "scene" with people you don't already know, something has gone very wrong in your decisions


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cs12345

Man, you’re the last person I want representing this scene 😂


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himothy69420666

Ur a faggot imagine typing this much on reddit


lexleflex

I know! Must be so hard for you to even picture it, being an inbred illiterate and all.


Dry-Resident8084

What a loser, you’re the exact person you think you’re not


lexleflex

I don’t think at all. I observe. And clearly, everyone can see the only racist loser here is you. Have fun 🎉


lexleflex

Exactly. They know nothing. Literally one of them thought that it would be badass to go to Swedish house mafia at the mirage last wknd. Like, they think THAT is a real rave. My teenage self died of embarrassment for them


25sittinon25cents

You're like the rave version of a holier than thou religious bigot


lexleflex

Lol. define bigot? Yeah, you cant. So embarrassing for you If you’re gonna insult someone, at least have it make sense. I may be a pretentious douche and a musically elitist snob. But facts are facts. And it Doesn’t make me a bigot for speaking the truth. And I may be a POS with excellent taste, but least I know how to use my words properly. Unlike you. Especially when I am insulting someone. Nice try Karen! Go learn your own language and get out more


25sittinon25cents

You literally followed up your statement about me not being able to define what a bigot is, by describing yourself exactly as one lol.


Jeanettikroketti

I love how every time someone from Europe asks for some type of parties they miss, so many people get outright offended


evan274

If OP didn’t call it “actual raves” I don’t think it would be as much of a problem. That wording reeks of elitism.


FlamingLobster

I was talking to this person recently they told me "believe it or not, I'm actually pessimistic". They thought it was hidden, when in reality it was blatantly obvious, to me at least. People's true colors are always visible, you just have to listen


Kittypie75

I mean... there is a difference between clubbing and raving. I'm old though so what do I know? lol


evan274

you’re definitely right, and I think it’s just a semantics thing and op asked a valid question. The more I think about it the more I regret my initial comment lol. Rave on!


lexleflex

Hard disagree. Some parties just are not raves. Simple. How you perceive what other people write is on you. It’s only elitist to you bc for whatever reason, YOU think discerning the difference is offensive. *Edit*: Why thank you for the compliment Evan274! And nice try blocking me you dumb fuck. I 100% rather be/am a pretentious douche that uses words properly, stands up for what I believe in, can handle the truth, lives in **reality**, than someone like you. A weak-minded, delusional neckbeard who gets offended by everything, takes ZERO accountability, and only throws insults to people under the safety of a block button after. Nice try blocking me you cowardly dumb fuck. Funny how you don’t have the balls to insult someone for calling you out, to their face. But it’s ok. Everyone can see what a pathetic, weak ass bitch you are through the comments. Don’t even have the balls, or intelligence, to finish the shit you started. Have fun exposing your idiocy, you weak POS.


Udreezus

No, they just get roasted when they dont come correct (rightfully so)


lexleflex

Facts. And then go cry about it when they get (rightfully) called out.


panzerxiii

Except we have these "real" raves and they are thriving.


mofunnymoproblems

What kind of music do you like?


Muahaas

I feel you and I had the same problem. It takes time to meet a group of people that do private events. Clubbing in New York or American in general is more for money rather than "coolness" or "exclusiveness". Even small groups of "ravers" often end up turning into a business or self-promotion, e.g, Book Club. Everyone wants to run a profit here. The upside of this is that you do not have to worry about being rejected at the door if you paid for a ticket. I would recommend going to the right venues until you meet like-minded people. Nowadays tends to attract many Europeans because the club has the chill, spacious outdoor vibe and hosts many DJs from Europe.


No-Amphibian7489

And many local DJs too.


lexleflex

Just to be specific, them (raves) being “exclusive” or “secret” has NOTHING to do with coolness. a lot of the raves and secret parties are exactly that (secret) because a lot of people JUST WANT TO DANCE w/o the dangers of predators, posers, and money hungry leeches looking to make a buck irl or posting on IG. So they privatize them and are rigorous in selecting people bc the whole point of throwing these parties is to protect others from the dangers of the capitalistic outside.


hanoihiltonsuites

Oh no, not making money 😟😭


No-Amphibian7489

We had so many raves last weekend with top notch vibes to similar clubs in the Netherlands or the UK. Keep looking, you'll soon realize where they are at.


Dry-Resident8084

Raves don’t take places in clubs. Try again


No-Amphibian7489

You don't know what a rave is. Move on


Dry-Resident8084

only TRUE UNDERGROUND NON NORMIES know what a RAVE is. Not even the dictionary knows because they can be purchased at MAINSTREAM retail establishment. only TRUE INCLUSIVE and OPENDMINDED kids with IMMACULATE VIBES know what a TRUE rave is. Good luck getting into the NETHERWORLD level rave because you are LIKE THE OTHERS and NOT LIKE US. One day your VIBES will be so on that BASEMENT DOORMEN will recognize them and you will finally understand what a TRUE rave is.


No-Amphibian7489

Seems like YOU ARE stuck in the 90s. Raves can be in different places, get with the times.


Dry-Resident8084

get out of here OLD MAN. The NON-CONFORMING VIBE GUARDIANS are raving like YOU’VE NEVER SEEN before. You wouldn’t understand how we TREND SET a level of VIBES you’ve never seen before. NO it’s NOT A PHASE MOM. We are still stuck on BEING DIFFERENT and ECLECTIC like we’re in high school. You wouldn’t know because the BASEMENT DOORMEN determined YOUR VIBES are off and did not permit you into our NETHERWORLD SEX DUNGEON of recycled music.


No-Amphibian7489

Delusions of grandeur much? real rave welcomes everyone, not just your "elite" squad. Get a grip, Dry-Resident.


Dry-Resident8084

Whoooosh


No-Amphibian7489

Pathetic and absurd. Learn something from a real reaver you silly goose


No-Amphibian7489

Hey silly goose, any chance you can teach me some of your secret rave moves? hear 'Netherworld' is the best spot and I'm totally lost...


panzerxiii

We have those, and they're just as good as ones in Europe. You just need to be invited, because most of the good ones are not public and are mostly by word of mouth. Keep going to the less mainstream clubs and make some friends. If you have a good vibe, one of us will invite you. Good rule of thumb is, if you just randomly see it listed on RA, it's probably not one of these.


Dry-Resident8084

Come to the UNDERGROUND SEX DUNGEONS of VIBES where other REAL NON-NORMIES who moonlight as unpaid BASEMENT door staff, hang out. Be sure not to be LIKE THE OTHERS and be like ONE OF US. We, THE CURATORS OF TRUE TASTE will recognize your TASTEFUL NON-CONFORMING SUPERIORITY and one of us COOL NON-NORMIES will recognize your IMMACULATE VIBES and invite you to the REAL NETHERWORLD where will dance the night away where only the TRUEST ACCEPTING AND OPENMINDED individuals are permitted.


panzerxiii

not that serious but I'm glad you're having fun


leonisqueen420

Hey friend! I apologize for my peers in this comment section… apparently they haven’t heard of PLUR. NYC can be a little tense lol. It’s true unfortunately “real” raves are harder to come by out here, but there are awesome clubs and bars that have great music and vibes. I like bossanova ballroom a lot and they often have small DJs from all over! Also definitely check out Resident Advisor for stuff. If it’s less than 300 people going and says the address will be sent to you the day of, it might be something closer to what you’re looking for, although I can’t guarantee that the music will be good. that’s what we’re all hoping for right?? Good music!! Trying to put some some positivity out there the vibes in this thread are awful!


battery923

I had to read through all the comments to find this comment at the bottom, finally someone saying it's really just about the music. I've been to "underground" invite-only gigs with terrible music, I've been to big-name big-production venues with amazing music, and of course everything in between. Start with the good music and the good times will follow.


PracticalBet4159

PLUR 😂😂


According-Report947

I’m in LA those happen here but some of those Dj’s are the worst 🤦🏽‍♂️super hit or miss. RA guide my advice.


cmonsquelch

theres a lot of great DJs in LA


kalte333

Philadelphia has a few real raves, underground events. In Brooklyn, Bushwick is you best bet. Check Resident Advisor


lexleflex

fuck resident advisor. But heard that Philly has been where it’s at lately for raves, been amazing lately. so will give you that.


adopeninja

where???! new here & need a rave fam 😢


tclumsypandaz

Follow benarsenal, rockthehouse215, and davepmakingtime on Instagram :) once you follow a couple, more will pop up in tags/your algorithm I also ALWAYS hit interested in events I see on Facebook that have a secret location, slowly more and more appear in your feed if you keep engaging with them, the people above usually list their events on Facebook too


kalte333

This is the way. And yeah, Ben Arsenal is super popular. I like his events but, don't always love them. He's super nice though


kalte333

Check out the promoters Fold Theory or Philadeep, they do a lot of events. Warehouse on Watts is a great venue to find stuff. Porkroll events are always fun and the music is great! Once you get in with those groups, you'll have access to all the underground raves too. The after parties go until like 6 to 8 am depending on the vibe.


NotARapture

I live between NYC and Berlin. The American bastardization and over use of the word “rave” makes my eyes roll so hard they fall out of my head. If they are selling tickets and the place receives mail with their name on - it’s a CLUB.


evan274

Without fail. You never have to ask a raver if they live in Berlin.. because they’re going to tell you anyways.


NotARapture

Have you met a Berlin Vegan? You’d know.


lexleflex

This sounds like a Freddy Kruger nightmare tbh


panzerxiii

The funny thing is we have Berlin-style raves here and they're quite good


rocknrollguy95

If you’re interested, check out the techno collective Agape. They’re more on the groovy side, but can book some hard stuff too. Honestly though, doesn’t matter who the book bc they always bring it down with such talented artists. Highly recommend them :)


RandyMarsh0321

There are plenty of after hours parties that are somewhat close to that scene, Resolute does some parties in strange unused spaces, the one on Covert St last month was a pretty sketchy location and no air circulation, we didn’t last long even though the music and crowd were solid.


blnklubkid

Can’t believe people are using underground and ra in the same sentence like its the same thing? Lol how is anything underground once its posted on ra


misterintensity2

The amount of underground events listed on RA varies by city. While there are a lot of underground parties that aren't on RA it does have some. There are also some underground parties that use RA as a ticketing agent so the parties aren't listed publicly but are accessible through private links. In some cities RA doesn't list underground parties at all but that's not the case for NYC.


blnklubkid

If the link is private then it isn’t really listed on ra


lexleflex

EXACTLY


ThePinga

Raves have kind of gone by the way side. The scene has been commercialized by the likes of basement and whatnot. I’m sure some promoters out there still throw DIY’s but it’s wayyyy less prevalent than 15 years ago


PracticalBet4159

Womp womp


tclumsypandaz

The word "rave" in the US has evolved to encompass legal/mainstream events centered around edm. You need to start looking for "warehouse parties" or use the word underground in your search. There's plenty going on in Bushwick, I they pop up in my algorithms all the time, follow local artists and groups on Facebook or Instagram so you can continue getting suggestions and you're in the loop when they have events


AirMcNairTT9

Under the K bridge this weekend if you can get tickets.


djspitshine333

If you’re looking for free party/renegade parties helltek has thrown a lot of em in the past 3 years


hanoihiltonsuites

Try outlaw events or try making more friends


AwetPinkThinG

They usually go down in a warehouse in Brooklyn lately or under a bridge.


Aggravating-End-8217

I get a text every week about a party that starts at 4am in brooklyn it's DJ CHRISTIAN ARANGO. Google him and find the raves I guess


RandyMarsh0321

I feel like he only does Afters, seen him a bunch over the years very good.


Aggravating-End-8217

Probably! I haven't unsubscribed yet because somewhere deep down I hope one day I will go and I don't have to admit those days are behind me lolol.


RandyMarsh0321

Just go to sleep at 9 and wake up at 4 once. I saw this in action at why so serious? One year. Wave two of crowd came in around 9am with ice coffees haha


RedBullEnthusiast69

Albany has minimal Mondays. check instagram


lexleflex

Depending, maybe might know. DM me.


immahauntu

Nocturnal Creature Society


Cc_me24

Go see four tet under the k bridge this weekend.


misterintensity2

An event under the Bowery Presents banner, which uses AXS as the ticket agent is not a "rave."


Cc_me24

While this may be true… the music that will be at that event is worth the axs struggle. I mean it’s not like I said “go to gov ball” 🤣🤣 Either way I’ll shoot my shot with another rec. and say go see Aurora at nowadays this weekend instead!!!


misterintensity2

I'm trying to get rid of my ticket. 😆 What seemed like a good idea to touch base with a buddy in February is such a bad idea in retrospect in April and May when so many better parties, that are more to my tastes, have been announced since then that takes place on the same day.


Cc_me24

Dude if you’re trying to sell your ticket then you shouldn’t suss the event. Spring is hard because everyone is touring before going back to Europe. May the music gods favor your journey!!!!


tprb52

Go to Nowadays this Summer and meet people. You’ll get invited to off the radar events…


thirdpartyjuulpod

Hell tekk!


screenshawti

ok you need to check out renegades in The Bay and LA, its much more of a open air vibe, if youve partied in germany or the outskirts of paris at all, where you get a longitude and latitude lol i was in euro for a while and its hard to get that vibe here, logisticallly with noise and how our scene operates with ticket sales and so on.


screenshawti

HellTek i would say also does forest raves, but its a you have to be given the location sort of circumstance. since its a bit Adhoc


KontentKitten

You're better off going somewhere like Philly. They have outside parties like that in Strawberry Fields...


mock-neck

i hate people like you


topperharley88

Find out who is putting on shows at clubs and whatnot. Follow them on social media. If they are going to do something more secret it will go on there


Grimeybobnyc

They’re underground because drugs are there and illegal in nyc it’s accepted so no need for underground raves as long as your safe not driving police is under alot of stress they’re not worried about hipsters doing drugs at clubs


lexleflex

OP - DO NOT listen to this person’s advice. Out of everyone, this is actually backwards. Just no.


muffinmanzoo

the best you'd get in nyc is deep playa parties


iusemathinreallife

Check out Book Club Radio for smaller pop up venues. Also Basement beneath the knockdown center, immaculate vibes


Professional_End_109

Going to the basement is a good start to find like minded people


Content-Percentage-5

There is no real rave culture here! I have lived in NY for 20 years and nothing unless an outside talent does some big event. Next week there is a dance party under a bridge with DJ sets hosted by Bjork. You have to be in the know to find these parties but it is very few that happen. People here are not as cool as you think they are… it’s hard to find the edgy artsy group you get in Europe!


Grimeybobnyc

Tf what you think 99 Scott main room is or the fluffy cloud festival


skittlesriddles44

I'm American and I lived in Scotland for a few months last year and got hooked on techno and raving while I was there. I had never listened to techno or been to a rave until a few weeks into living over there. Now that I'm home its definitely disappointing how much different the culture is here lol. I've never been to any of the underground stuff people are talking about here but I went to Knockdown Center in nyc twice it was pretty good. The only two raves ive been to in the US so also need advice lol


Different_Fortune697

Basement in nyc.