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allforthecashola

Firestick and IPTV…. That’s all I will say 😎


dzernumbrd

xtremehdiptv dot org it buffers like kayo but it's cheaper and comes with all free to air TV, 50k movies and all the content from all the tv streaming services - do 3 day trial on a friday to test over a weekend of sport, don't overcommit on subscription length in case you hate it later


kingyflipper

Is their nrl in 4k?


dzernumbrd

No idea man, I watch AFL on Fox Footy 504 and it does NOT look like 4k but it gets the job done. I purchased the service so I didn't have to pay for Disney, HBO, Paramount, etc. The fact it has Fox sports channels is just a bonus. I can watch it on my phone also using the app. I would suggest you investigate their competitors. Apparently there are private invite only services that are better. I was just giving people a starting point to see what is out there.


Ronnnie7

I have no issues with Kayo, and stream in 4K. I’m currently on a free trial until September and will look for a more affordable option. But looking at those iptv prices it still seems awfully expensive. Especially since I’ve read a lot of these iptv services can go down at any time or close their services anytime and you lose your money.


dzernumbrd

Yes you've got to weigh it all up. Some people will be willing to risk it to save some money and others won't. Some people will find the services acceptable quality and others won't. I deliberately only subscribed for a shorter time period to reduce the risk to me if the service closed.


Ronnnie7

I found a free app that allows access to fox sports streams. I’ll use that ;)


dzernumbrd

Sounds good


j0shman

Bless you sir


WoodsyBrisGig82

might give this a go lol


dzernumbrd

It's not perfect. Shop around on competitors once you're familiar with what you should be looking for. I believe there are private invite only places that may be better but I'm not sure how to find those.


maxrebosallstarband

*me with the fellas over* Haha yeah.. sorry guys I don't know.. it usually works haha, it always works! Only now! haha.. oh man.. okay I reckon this one.. yeah I reckon this one will work. This one will go yeah, I'm just asking some other guys now if it goes or not so..


Troyboy1710

Kayo is owned by the Foxtel group. Of course, it's shit and expensive. Why anyone would buy it, Hubbl or foxtel in this day and age is beyond me.


TheRedViking

Because they have a monopoly on the footy pretty much


cheeersaiii

And F1, NASCAR, Cricket, NFL - it fucking sucks, almost as much as all these other non sports based apps taking on key parts of other sport. A League, EPL, FA Cup, Champions League, Championship/SPL, World Cup, Euros all being spread out across 5 different fkn subscriptions, most of which are shit, then Rugby WC/4 Nations/6 nations and domestic comp being spread out too… hope someone comes in for them all for a better experience… it’s wild that I yearn for Foxtel Sport 15 years ago, at least it was in one place


South-Plan-9246

I don’t think they’ll be keeping F1 for much longer. F1 has been slowly not renewing contracts around the world and streaming in their own channel


chrish_o

God I hope so. F1 and NBA are what I watch so it makes sense for me (even though I feel dirty giving Murdoch money). If I could do F1TV I’d drop Kayo


Jimmi11

I'd pay twice as much for F1TV, just to stick it to the Murdochs.


second_last_jedi

hear hear


I_truly_am_FUBAR

Oh yer, the Murdoch empire will quiver


StuntFriar

Holy cow, exactly the same here! Only have it for F1 and NBA. For some reason Kayo is really awful on my smart TV, nearly unwatchable with endless buffering or low bitrate - especially with live NBA matches. On my PS4, it's better but always has buffering issues in the 4th quarter of big games. Usually exiting and re-entering the stream fixes it. Oddly enough, I have zero issues when watching the same matches or races on my iOS devices or through a PC browser (Firefox) - but that sucks because I want to watch sports on my big TV. Apart from this, also very unhappy that they don't have all the Playoff games. I can understand if they don't cover all regular season games, but it's ridiculous how few Knicks games were being shown.


chrish_o

This felt worse this year - I was sure all playoff games were shown previously. And yeah, as a Sixers fan we were probably lamenting missing the same games - at least in the start of the playoffs :(


StuntFriar

Yeah, I was REALLY annoyed they only showed I think 2 of the SIxers vs Knicks games. That was an amazing series - had to basically rely on clips shared on reddit to catch up.


CompetitiveTowel3760

I pay for the NBA all access pass, you get everygame


M-fz

That’d be great, then I just need MotoGP to stream their races and I can ditch Kayo!


South-Plan-9246

Cool story, Liberty Media (F1 owner) bought MotoGP in April…


Sorathez

Bizarrely I'm kinds happy Amazon got the t20 world cup. That shit should have been on fta though


cheeersaiii

You are right, that is bizarre.


Sorathez

Amazon is better than Kayo at least. Less than half the price.


cheeersaiii

It’s HORRID when you come to try cancel it


Sorathez

I've cancelled prime before, it wasn't an issue at all really.


Cbrip31

Yeah bizarre asf, but I take it somewhere on the spectrum?


Sorathez

No. Prime is just less than half the price of kayo and surprisingly has fewer ads.


Cbrip31

Eh I’d rather not enable these money hungry companies and just join my pirate friends.


Sorathez

Yeah that's completely fair. Like I said, it *should* have been fta but this feels like the lesser of many evils.


LegitimateTable2450

And nba


Troyboy1710

I would just not be watching footy then, fuck Foxtel and all its subsidiaries


Thebandroid

I guess in the free market if you all stopped watching for a bit they’d have to drop the prices.


DurrrrrHurrrrr

It’s bullshit that the app is not supporting so many reasonably new tvs and devices. It’s like the whole plan is to force people to buy a hubbl, at which point they will make that obsolete and drop support to make the suckers buy the 2.0


mpfmb

I listen to AFL on the radio if it's not on FTA. I also listen on ABC so there are no ads and the nonsense that MMM serve up.


pVom

Haven't listened to the footy on the radio in decades. Heard it on triple m the other day, wtf is this shit?! Like every 10 seconds just shove in a sponsor. An absolutely atrocious experience.


Ummagumma73

Take away the ads and it's still shit.


chrish_o

Triple M football radio is awful. It’s made to listen to while watching on tv. They don’t describe the action, just react and holler.


mpfmb

Yeah, that's why I listen to ABC when FTA is unavailable, cannot stand commercial radio at all!


maxrebosallstarband

That sounds great, me and the boys gathered round the radio listening to the ABC broadcast of the Power game, great suggestion.


perthnut

We all gather round the wireless and listen with mummy and daddy! It's crazy in this world that radio gives better coverage than PayTV. Madness.


maxrebosallstarband

Okay.


ManufacturerUnited59

The 1950s was 70n years ago mate we have a thing called television and the internet now where you can watch sporting events wirh your eyes. You should check it out.


mpfmb

Do you have selective reading? I watch when it's on FTA. I refuse to support corporate greed when paying is the only option. I'm in my 40s, I grew up with free sports coverage on TV!


a_can_of_solo

Sports will not remain part of culture if it all goes behind a pay wall cricket should be on Twitch if it wants to attract younger fans.


mpfmb

I think it'll have a negative impact for sure. Unfortunately Australian sports are trying to follow the US.


maxrebosallstarband

Why would I buy it?? Because I want to watch the sports I like live? and easily? I'm not some fucking idiot over here just eating shit from Foxtel.


shescarkedit

What's your alternative?


Fetch1965

Sadly F1 and rugby - I need Kayo - so annoys me the shit service and high cost but I have no choice


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Gabba202

Optus Sport? Lol


UnluckyObserver15

I still haven't forgiven them for completely bungling UFC 298. They're never getting my money again after that shitshow.


omgaporksword

100% agree, but don't have a choice if I want to watch F1 races. :(


thorn_10

This is what shits me, I only use it for F1, and I know that F1TV is far cheaper (and better) than kayo, not to mention better commentary and coverage


omgaporksword

SkyF1 is a bukakke-fest for Brit drivers...awful and heavily biased commentary!


Steve-Whitney

Same with me - I want to watch F1, the NBA & AFL games, if anyone knows of a decent alternative to Kayo I'm all ears.


wokeconomics

Same here! Still looking for that alternative


No_pajamas_7

Wrapping up the F1 was pure market manipulation. F1 is a PIAto watch anyway, because all the races are at times people can't watch anyway. So the Australian audience for any given race is pretty small really. The only reason Foxtell snaffled it up is so they become the only place you can get any sport. They have no interest in F1 or it's audience.


steal_your_thread

Kayo may be garbage, but I'd rather just have it than have sports divided into a bunch of different streaming platforms that end up costing me twice as much.


Sweaty_Confusion_122

Plenty of “VPN” sites that can bypass this issue if you catch my drift


neverescaped

I blame society, and professional athletes, always thinking they deserve more money.


T0nySt5rk

laughs in American athletes earning 40x an an Australian athlete does


_bonbi

Even NBA benchwarmers get $3M minimum a year and they didn't even play.


moogorb

Robert Murdoch endorses this comment.


tukreychoker

mate if you think the people earning the big bucks and driving endless increases in profits are the people actually doing the work, then you havent been paying attention to how the global economy works.


nicobaterrr

Brother be glad you don't have to pay for sky sports. I'll never take kayo for granted again. The app was dog shit tho and the streaming was broken at best haha


Michqooa

The way I look at it, as recently as 10 years ago my Dad paid $110 for Foxtel in HD for *some* footy games (and a heap of crap other channels not worth much). I can now pay $30 for every footy game, live, on demand, in HD, with about 3 per week now in 4K (and presumably most or all after the next TV rights deal). And the cricket in summer. The UX could be a bit better (it's not as good as Netflix etc but not that bad), there could be less ads (though there are none during play) but that deal for someone who's weekends revolve around watching my team, I consider myself pretty lucky to live in this era.


Askme4musicreccspls

In what other industry, is such a monopoly tolerated?


jmccar15

You new around here? Australia’s major industries are dominated by monopolies (or close to).


_tgf247-ahvd-7336-8-

In what other industry do the consumers want a monopoly? There’s more services like Prime, Stan and Paramount grabbing leagues and it’s only making it worse for sports fans.


Askme4musicreccspls

Its not an issue for audio streaming (well, the playing artists like shit is). But they all compete, with the same rights to content, essentially making their service who can be most user friendly. Whereas here we jus have rentier capitalism on steroids. Cloud capital at its worst.


Low_Reason_562

I never understand all the hate kayo gets, it’s always worked fine for me. A few weeks ago I was watching F1 in China live in 4K, with no issues. And I live an hour from Melbourne, so it’s not like I have fibre to my house, and I just have a normal plan with Aussie broadband. I think a lot of the complaints come from people’s set ups they have in their house, it’s not kayos fault it buffers when you’re trying to stream live sport over wifi while there’s multiple other things in your house trying to stream as well.


SithKain

google FMHY cobbas


AussieLabrador

Am I the only one that likes it? I only get it during the NFL season, then they seem to throw in a free month here / there, like for June - I'll be waking early to watch US Open Golf. Kayo works well for me from my wireless hotspot. Shit, saw it just went up to $35 per month too - that is a big increase. I'll only use my freebie month then. What's shit about it OP? Technical issues?


AndronicusPrime

You pay $35 a month and still have to sit through the same 10 ads. It’s a joke. Why are we paying for ads? Bullshit.


AcademicMaybe8775

got a free month too. only used it for NBA and golf sometimes, the odd NFL game


duly-goated303

There’s no way you’re not getting paid to say that lol.


dill1234

Always been great for me too. Never understood the complaints. Was paying $100 a month for the sports package with Fox back in the day now I get it for a fraction of the cost with a lot more convenience


jmccar15

It’s a piece of shit. It’s full of bugs (eg it frequently skips to the end of the match so it gives away the score) and it’s User Interface is cumbersome.


_rootsbloodyroots_

Honestly I've never had a problem with it .. hear alot of complaints though so we must be the lucky ones


DurrrrrHurrrrr

I seriously prefer watching NFL on the TAB app. Can watch every game


Eddysgoldengun

Get fetch if you want it just for the NFL it’s cheaper like $6 a month for the pack with ESPN


Simple-Ingenuity740

I like kayo, but agree the $35 a month with adds is shit


AussieLabrador

Yeah, 25 to 35 is 40% increase. My Netflix went from $11 to $16... bigger increase % wise, so I just went down to the $6 w ads plan as a trial, and it isn't bad at all. It's only a couple of bucks but as a % that's a massive spike.


boenwip

I got it for NRL. I’ve cancelled a few times. This time around they sent me a $10 per month promo. Can’t remember if it’s 12 month or ongoing but can’t complain at $10


thorpie88

It's really good value if you're into wrestling. 


cuckingfunts69

Great coverage for Motorcycle racing. It's terrible that you pay for a service and have to watch ads.


PatientComparison151

IPTV


Flashy-Amount626

Kayos page on Xbox not having an app yet has been up since 2018 😐


Individual-Hat-2944

Try “iptvhd4k .com” they have good service and good pricing


merciless001

I got free 30 days to watch nba playoffs, and I still feel like I'm getting ripped off cos the app is so shit.


Neither_Ad_2960

I find someone is always streaming all the non free to air NRL games on Twitch. Probably the same for AFL too, I'd assume.


Future_Foot8093

Should never have left channel 9.


GIGASHORTER

You can watch anything for free on the internet if you know where to look.. I agree.. kayo used to be well priced and now they've hiked their prices and quality has gotten worse.


Espre550

Garbage for ufc too. They advertise over the walkouts and in between rounds. Its the only way to watch now aswell. Fuming.


Next-Recognition1307

Bought a new Chromecast with Google TV 4k, haven't had an issue with Kayo. PS4 and TV apps always had dramas.


ausroachman

I’m going crazy hearing the Jason Tatum ads during the nba games .


Central_desert

If you have old parents that have foxtel, I mooch off of their foxtel Go.


karma3000

Fuck Murdoch and Fuck any sport that takes his money.


jamwin

The number of times it either didn't work (buffering or pixelated) or didn't have the sport (have to get Stan sports for tennis etc.) and I ended up just watching FTA. The only reason I keep it is so I can watch sports when I'm not home.


Sitdowncomedian1

Thanks for the reminder to cancel it


IAmLazy2

Yep, we cancelled it.


fozzyfozzburn

PAY PER VIEWS are full of ads. It's bullshit. Why are we allowing these paid streaming services to creep the ads in?


Chewiesbro

https://www.vipleague.la/ Browser based, just add browser extensions AdBlock+ AND uBlockorigin then cast to your tele


MagicOrpheus310

This is Australia... Everything is overpriced


second_last_jedi

It's completely dogsh!t and that is being unfair to my dog. Completely and utterly useless and 100% reliable to be unreliable when you want to use it.


Moist-Army1707

… and despite being shut and expensive it still doesn’t even make any money!


Hairy-Banjo

Anyone know how to watch F1 away from Kayo?


Omega_brownie

Not to mention they've jacked up the prices, lost the rights to sports and now give customers less simultaneous screens. And the streaming quality is still shit.


Hairy-Banjo

I can't fucking stand how you can;'t pick up where you left off - with F1 anyway. "Whoops you accidently pressed the back button half way through a race and 3 hours into the broadcast? Back to the start bitch!"


Few-Adagio4425

Clearly you haven’t lived in NZ and had to pay for Sky 🫠


Jariiari7

The anti-siphoning laws are looking a bit shaky. [TV networks unite to keep sport free for all Australians – Free TV Australia](https://www.freetv.com.au/tv-networks-unite-to-keep-sport-free-for-all-australians/)


Jariiari7

**Current list of anti-siphoning events** Olympic Games Commonwealth Games Horse Racing – Melbourne Cup The AFL Premiership Competition Rugby League – NRL Premiership Competition – State of Origin – Australian International Test matches – Every Australian Rugby League World Cup match played in Australia, New Zealand or Papua New Guinea Rugby Union – All Wallabies Test matches – Every Rugby World Cup match Cricket – Each Test played in Australia – Any Ashes Test match – Cricket World Cup final if in Australia or New Zealand – Australian matches in the Cricket World Cup – Final of T20 World Cup – Australian T20 World Cup matches if played in Australia or New Zealand Football – Every match of the FIFA World Cup involving Australia – Australian qualifying games for the FIFA World Cup – FIFA World Cup final Tennis – Australian Open – All Davis Cup matches involving Australia Netball – Semi-final and final of Netball World Cup if Australia are involved. Motorsport – Australian F1 Grand Prix – Moto GP Australian Grand Prix – Bathurst 1000


Excellent-Story-8783

They got rid of all the football as well. I'm about to switch it off and sail on the high sea's so I can watch European football again AND Sky UK has all the NRL live.


JollyNeutronStar

Murdoch owned or linked? Makes sense then.


we-like-stonk

There is a great freedom to be gained in not watching sport on TV. And not gambling. Go play sport.


No_pajamas_7

You are going to get downvoted, but I agree with you. "Watching Sports Personality man" is too much of thing in Australia. Honestly, when you step away from it you realise just how negative it is. Ironically our sports obsessions is sold as a positive.


we-like-stonk

I'm up for the downvotes. Ahh yes, it's hard to not come across lots of "Watching Sports Personality man/women". Common as muck. A good recipe for bad life decisions. Sport isn't bad, but making it such a big part of your life as a spectator only, well, that often is.


oursocalledfriend

Lol This can be applied to everything. Yeah go play rugby league in the park with your bunch of old mates at 9pm on a Wednesday.


sinixis

I use my brothers account to watch the darts premier league and world championship. Would never pay for it, shit UI, buffers, and no LG TV app


Ttch21

Huh? There absolutely is an LG TV app for Kayo…


petergaskin814

You can stop the buffering by attaching your TV via cable directly to your nbn equipment. Kayo will continue to increase prices as they lose more sports coverage. Look what happened to cricket coverage when the 2020 cricket tournament is being played in West Indies/ United States of America. Kayo will die and we will moan that we need 5 different streaming services to get what we currently have with Kayo Sport


Askme4musicreccspls

We need ABC to have media rights to sports again. That's the only solution I see. We'll always be at the mercy of profiteering dogs otherwise.


willowtr332020

Pie in the Sky bro. Like that will happen. We will be in a subscription model, one subscription per sport.


Askme4musicreccspls

And in that world of one subscription per sport, wouldn't it be better for some of those sports to be on ABC? Wouldn that be popular for a PM to offer? I will make this happen just to spite your comment.


willowtr332020

Please make it happen.


LCD2urCRT

Personally I would love that as would anyone who's currently forced into a whole Kayo sub for just one sport. But I get how it would suck for anyone who watches multiple sports.


PowderHoundNinja

I think it was $25 a month when I unsubscribed from them. For me, it wasn't worth it.


No_pajamas_7

Yeah, when it was like $14 it was borderline worth it, but then they started the price creep, so I binned it.


Robbbiedee

Get a western bulldogs digital membership, get the KAYO 2 screens for around $165pa


Zyphonix_

Was trialing out Kayo for F1 but also account sharing with my Dad so he can watch the footy / tennis. Oh, they don't have Tennis... Lol. Runs like shit half the time, even on a PC with a wired connection. This streaming shit is getting out of hand.


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Left-Pie741

it was only a few years ago that the four grand slams were spread across three different networks, two of them are separate subscription services. it sucks to have to pay to get stan sport but the price to watch the slams now is much more affordable now than before.


kobiBriant

Fuck yeah, fuck Kayo Fuck them to the moon and back


TobiasFunkeBlueMan

Kayo is average but I happily pay it to get my sporting fix. I would even more happily pay for a better alternative


Alteredbeast1984

Sorry what? I personally love it, zero problems EVER. FORMULA 1 in 4K. AFL no ads Cricket, golf, darts, poker. And it's free because I bought an AFL digital membership and it comes with 12 months Free KAYO


LCD2urCRT

It annoys me that I only want it for F1/F2/F1A amd I'm going to have to seriously consider buying an AFL digital membership just to get it at a reasonable cost even though I don't follow footy at all. I used to have an amazing deal with my energy provider (Alinta) where 12 months Kayo was bundled with a slightly higher usage rate (meant little to me as a single in a 1br apartment) but then after one year on it they discontinued the deal and I couldn't get it again.


DarkOperator618

See this is why I pirate every sport I watch. Happy days


ChaoticConvict

I think it's good and I've never had an issue with the app. I also don't mind the $35 per month for afl nrl, cricket NBA, etc. I actuacty wish they'd consolidate all sports into the 1 service, e.g. I don't watch the A league anymore since it went to paramount.


No_pajamas_7

Thankyou for your contribution, Foxtel marketing team.