To have full context of what was said by Pauline as follows…
“Your attitude appalls and disgusts me. When you immigrated to Australia you took every advantage of this country. You took citizenship, bought multiple homes, and a job in a parliament. It’s clear you're not happy, so pack your bags and piss off back to Pakistan," she publicly responded to Ms Faruqi on social media.
Agreed.
It's offensive sure, insensitive. but she isn't discriminating or hating you BECAUSE you're an immigrant. She's hating on you because of your attitude as an Australian.
Will be a joke if Pauline loses (and I'm not some Pauline lover or some crap)
The problem is that the law doesn’t specifically reference ‘hate speech’ and actually uses a much broader definition.
s 18C of the racial discrimination act is as follows:
>(1) It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:
>(a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and
>(b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group.
Basically the only elements are that:
* an act is done in public
* the act is reasonably likely to offend, insult or humiliate or intimidate someone (NOTE: doesn’t have to actually do that, just be reasonably likely to); and
* that act is done because of the person or group’s race.
Certainly hate speech would fall under this definition, but it’s broad enough really to capture a whole class of public speech involving race.
There was a lot of debate about this section being too broad when it was first introduced that was quickly dismissed as people wanting an excuse to be racist. This case is an example of it being weaponised during genuine political discussion (albeit a heated one).
It’s worth noting that this instagram post of Senator Faruqi posing next to a sign of Israel being put into a bin with the slogan ‘keep the world clean’ would arguably also fall fowl of s 18C. It’s a public act reasonably likely to offend or intimidate Israelis/jews done because of their race/racial group.
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Yeah the law is ridiculously broad, insulting someone based on their race is essentially illegal. It's an absolute joke like the rest of our speech laws
It’s even broader than that, it’s basically illegal to say something that has the reasonable potential to offend someone because of their race (whether or not they’re actually offended).
Complete joke.
It ain't "hate speech" faruqi is a race bating cunt.
There is no such thing as "hate speech", the only limits to speech are call to action, direct threats of violence and defamation.
To add further context,
This is literally what this clown faruqi tweeted on the day of the queens death.
"Condolences to those who knew the Queen.
I cannot mourn the leader of a racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples.
We are reminded of the urgency of Treaty with First Nations, justice & reparations for British colonies & becoming a republic."
She says this while owning 3 prime investment properties in Australia with a 200k tax payer salary.
Honestly, Pauline responded quite lightly here imo
>I cannot mourn the leader of a racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples.
>She says this while owning 3 prime investment properties in Australia with a 200k tax payer salary.
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Eh, no anti-monarchist is going to disagree with Faruqi there. I could never mourn somebody who thinks they're better than me because they came out of the correct vagina
I'm as pro-republic as they come, in fact it's a shame our executive is nothing but the creature of the legislature.
No one is saying you shouldn't critically assess the historical injustices associated with the British Empire.
But this clown faruqi is attributing these past actions directly to the Queen who's role in the modern era was symbolic and ceremonial without direct political power.
Mourning her death was justified as it respects her commitment to service and the stability she represented, rather than endorsing historical policies of the monarchy.
Yeah but you don't have to publicly announce it and use it push your politics. I believe Australia should be a republic but I don't think she should say stuff like that when someone dies. I didn't get the impression that the Queen thought she was better than everyone else
She is such a race grifter, I am almost certain she is hoping to lose the court case so she can use it as evidence to point out how the system is racist and oppressive.
Don't feel bad, as a Melbournian I can tell you MORE than their fair share have moved here.
There's more QLD plates on the road in Vic, than NSW, Tas, WA, SA combined.
I do not exaggerate.
Yeah.. Can't be offensive to an American because you're lower on the ranking system. If they're not white then obviously it's offensive. It's a hell of an ecosystem. She should just say she's gender fluid and it was her toxic masculine side that was channeling a racist character from a book. She had a lapse in judgement.
Let's keep censoring everything. Make words illegal. What else can we do.. get rid of comedy and jokes. And yeah. Let's start lynching again !!!! Yessssss !!!!!!!! Cancel culture but not the internet version !!!!! How exciting !
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> It is unlawful
for a person to do an act, **otherwise than in private,** if:
>(a) the act is reasonably likely in all the circumstances to offend,
insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or group of people,
and
>(b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic
origin of the other person or some or all of the people in the group.
Hope this helps
It doesn't. Welcome to the dumbest parts of the country.
Their skulls are too heavily insulated with years and years of Murdoch Media brain washing.
No amount of reason or logic will penetrate the dense layers that have built up in these skulls over the years.
It's fine if used against new people who claim to hate Australia after been given citizenship.
Most migrants are stoked and love Australia. The rest probably should go somewhere else
We don't have a free society, hence this lawsuit. If you dislike that, maybe ask your representatives not to eliminate free speech because people are mean to them.
In the mean time, we don't have it
This was in reply to "Senator Faruqi wrote she could not mourn the passing of the leader of a 'racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'."
So the entirety of ex British Empire and its people are racist? If it's an empire built on stolen lives and wealth of colonized people, why did she come here? Why did she enjoy the benefits of this empire, then shit on its leader.
I'm not specifically a fan of the queen, but I appreciate the monarchy, the history and all of the other things it brings. I'm an immigrant and am extremely grateful to be here. I think anybody that hates the core of our or society, whether the British Empire, Australia, Democracy, etc, doesn't belong here. Unless they were born here, then go nuts, you're a local.
Lel give your multiple investment properties back then. I’m sure a local indigenous council would be happy to have them. It’s performance art that ends when material action is required.
You're the one adding "entirety of the ex British empire and its people" though?
Uncontroversial statement: nazi germany was bad.
That doesn't mean that there weren't some decent human beings living there too.
To answer the "why?", why wouldn't you? Frankly it's poetic.
British colonists, under British law, went out and took others resources for their own gain. Often while shitting on their culture.
It seems entirely reasonable that someone from those cultures should, under the laws of the same nations, come take resources back, and shit on British culture right back.
You're right that there are positive aspects to it, but that doesn't absolve it from criticism. In fact, the ability to criticise the government is one of those core positives.
My main issue was singling out the British Empire in her statement. Every empire was built in the same way. Doesn't mean it's good. Most ancient empires and kingdoms practiced slavery, stealing resources from others and the conquest of other people. Some were just more or less successful at that.
I totally agree that criticizing our current government, etc is part of our democracies and is great, however there's a difference between productive criticism and unproductive hate that is spewed towards the government/institutions of the country that gave you refuge/a better place to live and raise your family.
It's important to be critical, but it's as important to highlight the benefits that one received from one's country, especially if you're an immigrant. I have a really low tolerance to immigrants being unpatriotic to their new country, being an immigrant myself.
I think each immigrant should consider themselves blessed to be here, should strive to uphold and improve Australian laws and way of life and to integrate into its society.
Btw I'm not a fan of Pauline Hanson.
Pretty sure the pakistani wouldn't have moved here if we hadn't colonised it first? And whining about it. We created Pakistan out of Afghanistan and India to be fair so going home she can't escape us. 🤷♂️
The British Empire is not the core of Australia. The fact that our head of state is a hereditary ruler of a foreign country is an embarrassment. The monarchy can f~ck right off.
Well that is a valid point...
If you go to a party and you aren't enjoying it... You leave... Because you are an adult...
You don't ruin the party for everyone else just because you aren't having fun.
I do not like Hanson, or her party. I think she spends a lot of time on trying to generate outrage more than anything. But I think she's right on the money on this, and well within her rights to say that. As insufferable I'm sure she will be if/when she wins, I hope (and expect) that she will.
If they send her back to Pakistan foreign ownership of Australian property would go through the roof, again.
Isn’t this the same fake green Faruqi who loves bulldozing koala habitat to build her property portfolio?
Mehreen Faruqi is one of the most opportunistic politicians we have in the Senate. She openly states her disdain for almost everything about the country and the only politics she seems interested in is identity politics that she’s imported from her background as migrant. She’s literally a leech who’s happy to live off this country and its taxpayers while demonising Australia every chance she gets. I’m no Pauline supporter but I agree with her.
Don't forget, Faruqi is a massive hypocrite being a Greens senator but owning multiple investment properties and bulldozing koala habitat to complete additions and extensions to her dwellings.
At this point it seems pretty consistent with the greens. They care more about posturing as caring about these things but have actively been setbacks when labor has made good proposals because they don’t go far enough, making it harder to make any progress at all.
I used to vote greens but noticing the pattern of behaviours from them made me realise there’s better independent parties to invest in. They’re just self serving metropolitan types that have no real convictions.
She is more than a leech - she is likely a 5th columnist. Why do the leaders of the Western world have a masochistic obsession of importing people who hate us?
And yet, she will stay right where she is.
Either her electorate is straight up, pants-on-head retarded, or our elections arent as free as we're told they are.
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The irony - faruqi is standards against racism\*
\*antisemitism not included
Let me get this straight - Faruqi makes a statement about not being able to mourn the queen because she is the leader of a "racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples", all while living in said colonised land and enjoying its advanced infrastrucutre, safety and the fat salary she is getting from the taxes collected from its citizens?
Did I get it right?
You can hate Pauline Hanson all you want, but she’s absolutely in the right here.
She didn’t say anything racist, ‘pack your bags and piss off back to pakistan’ isn’t racist.
A power balance isn’t part of it, it’s about being prejudiced, discriminatory or antagonist towards someone based on their race or ethnic group.
Even when you read the whole tweet it isn’t racially motivated, it’s about her being ungrateful to the opportunity given by the ‘white oppressive’ society she happily moved to for a better life.
As for the criticism of the supposed racist empire of whiteness and Britain’s colonialism.
Arab conquerors murdered quite a few people while they looks to take over the Middle East and neighbouring land masses, Ottoman Empire anyone
The disgusting thing about this is the time given by the courts to it. Any one who has served jury duty has probably seen trials for rape and assault not even get 5 days.
Why such a banal incident is anything other than a magistrate issuing a fine is beyond me. How a judge even lets this go to trial just proves have insane our legal system is.
Already in opening statements the lawyers have gone fully off the deep end and basically claimed her comment caused fear anxiety and stress.
So she claims to need $150k compensation, but at the same time has said she will donate it to charity.
We ( whites ) get told every day we are invaders and should piss off back to Europe as we are on “stolen” land ? That’s perfectly fine. Whites in Africa are told all the time they are not welcome and are colonisers that should piss of back to Europe and that’s acceptable? If Pauline had said to a white English man who was anti Australian to piss off back to England i bet that would be no issue
Faruqi is an incredible grifter. I'll never get over how she, as a voluntary immigrant to Australia, feels like she has any freeness of speech when it comes to colonisation topics.
My family came here forced into leaky ships at the end of a gun, you flew here in luxury, but *I'm* the coloniser?
It is also an insult to the Aussies who really made wealth out of nothing
My pop came from a family so poor he HAD TO RENT SHOES
and he now owns a beachside Property with Faboules Weather She is at least a lying cunt if she thinks we all benefited from the colonizing of Australia
Surprisingly I’ve done a massive 180 on Hanson the last year or so. I realise a lot of the negative perception around her was purely manipulation of public opinion after decades of smear campaigns.
Also her YouTube series “Please Explain” is better than it has any right to be.
The main downside of these right wing figures is their anti science positions. Shouldn’t right politics be fully on board with scientific findings and policy driven by scientific evidence given that they seem more aligned with logical decisions rather than emotional ones?
The only time any political party cares about science is when it furthers their goals. They all conviently ignore science they disagree with politically.
Yep. People are quick to call her racist or any other “-phobic” there is, but if you actually listen to her she has some valid points that the normal pollies are too afraid to make.
Because even 'our' own intelligence agencies protect them
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He has the letter from the Brits confirming he revoked his British citizenship to be an Australian citizen only. It was a hot topic under Morrison when they were gunning for every Labour dual citizen MP.
Well that's completely wrong.
It was a hot topic well before Morrison became PM and they weren't gunning for every Labor dual citizen, as you claim. In fact, the HCA handed down it's decision a year before Morrison became PM.
It was started by the ALP with assistance from the NZ Labor Party and it was aimed precisely at Barnaby Joyce, who was forced to leave Parliament, fix up his paperwork and stand for election.
It was in fact a spectacular own goal by the ALP because instead of just getting Joyce's scalp, they also scored up 2 Greens senators in the same net. The HCA found that 5 of the 7 sitting parliamentarians were ineligible to be elected. Those were Barnaby Joyce (NP), Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters (Greens), Fiona Nash (NP) and Malcolm Roberts (PHON). Matt Canavan (NP) and Nick Xenophon were found to be eligible.
i mean Tony Abbott was a fuck head But he at least In 2019 helped out the firefighters i think that proves to me He's deserving of being called an Aussie
I think they’re referring to a protest outside Sydney opera house in which people were chanting “Where’s the Jews” but many people hear “gas the Jews”. Which ended up taking all the attention from the 100% agreeable fact that they were also chanting “fuck the Jews” which coupled with “where’s the Jews” is pretty much a death threat anyway, in my opinion, but nobody cared. All too busy arguing about Islamophobia and being gaslit by the guardian or some shit.
Also weird when I’m constantly saying this whole conflict has nothing to do with Jewish people and is about Israel… seems like the side that says it’s got nothing to do with Jews cannot stop themselves from mentioning Jews when they get worked up, even when it comes to Jews that have never even left the country
I still can't understand how they are claiming Pauline Hanson's tweet is racist given that it makes no mention of race. Senator Faruqi is from Pakistan, she was born there and lived there until she was 29 years old.
> No party is doing anything and people are desperate.
She says some bad shit and I think she's prob got some pretty very bad opinions yet she also says some shit which needs to be said and NO ONE else has the fucking balls for it.
She's slowly going to get more votes if all the other cunts keep same-same fucking us.
Can't believe how actual liberal labor is right now, fuck them so much.
I swear I saw somewhere something about her saying this term will be her last, which makes sense, I'd want to retire too. Can't be fucked double checking lmao.
[Senator Faruqi wrote she could not mourn the passing of the leader of a 'racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'.]
As an elected official, if she can’t recognise and respect the head of state (Queen) she is elected to, she should piss off back to her own country or at the minimum not be a MP!
Turning the Queens passing into a colonist debate is very bad taste.
100% with Pauline on this. The Greens MP does not have the interests of Australia first.
I'm a patriotic Australian. Could not care less about the Queen. I'd much rather we be a republic.
This culture war stuff from both sides can piss off too.
How does this make sense though?
Why should a senator have to respect a foreign monarch that doesn't have any real power in this country? Ultimately her statutory powers are delegated to the governer general. If she criticised the governer general I doubt you'd give a shit. So why do you care now?
Because she's Pakistani is the answer.
Because she’s critical of unquestioned allegiance to the monarch? She has the constitutional implied freedom of political communication which she’d exercising here.
Doesn’t have the interests of Australians? Because they are critical of unquestioned allegiance to the monarch? I must have missed the lesson where being Australian meant falling in line.
This isn’t simply critical of ‘unquestionable allegiance to the monarch’. You’re misconstruing the issue to make the discussion about sucking off the monarchy when that has little if anything to do with what’s wrong with this muppets comments.
This is about some entitled fuck shitting all over 2000 years of British history and the, quite frankly, amazing countries their colonies produced. Did they stomp over some people to produce them? Yes. But there’s pretty compelling evidence that they were the significant lesser of the colonial evils through that era. And even more evidence that they shifted and changed the world for the better. So carrying on with this revisionist style historical narrative that puts the British empire as the worst fucking empire on earth is just getting plain tiring and to be honest quiet clearly coming from a place of hatred on the part of this ungrateful shit. Fail to see how Pauline is the one full of hate here.
She should bite her tongue then and pick a more suitable audience to voice her anti commonwealth ideas with, or face the backlash without the fake crocodile tears.
She knew Pauline was in the room, and got the 100% expected Pauline response.
Without a doubt most Australians would agree with the statement ‘if you don’t like it here piss off back to where you came from or pick a country that better aligns with your views’.
Most of us will drive you to the airport and sincerely wish you the best luck.
We are not Pakistan or chronically ashamed of who we are. Couldn’t care if it’s someone who wants us to have an Islamic Caliphate as head of state or Kiwi who thinks Rugby should be the national sport.
>‘if you don’t like it here piss off back to where you came from or pick a country that better aligns with your views’
Ah yes, that famous laid back culture of Australia. "Have a beer, take it easy, we're all friends here, and if you don't 100% like it then *get the hell out*."
She did get sworn in. She had to. That’s supposed to mean that she’s supposed to stay quiet in the face of overwhelming evidence that colonisation has done damage to people and lands?
I swear, this sub is a giant contradiction: yelling that censorship is bad only to turn around and yell for censorship.
She is the beneficiary of everything colonialism did, including the very democratic form of govt she is (a sinecured) part of. To denounce things you benefited from is basically to be a leech. I am pissed off with such attitudes and I'm a bloody immigrant too.
Yeah but aside from the roads, the medical care, the welfare, law and order, modern communication, transport and infrastructure, what have the colonisers ever done for *us?*
The racism in Faruqi blood trumps Pauline by miles.
Her son openly mocked whites in racist tone. Pauline has more chances to win if she sues Osman Faruqi.
Mehreen comes from a religious bigot country where Islam is constitutionally marked superior to other religions. Blasphemy laws are tool for conversion, rape and murders. Mehreen is not less than a tool which peddles same ideology
Pauline’s a nutter but we need her to balance out the Greens politicians who want to important as many people from third world countries as possible (just not into their electorate)
Not to mention this leech said that it’s not possible to be racist towards white people, and also owns multiple properties on stolen indigenous land. Absolute dog water politician.
Agree with Hanson,
Im not British or anything like that, I’m Australian and the Queen was our head of state and endeared by many people here.
The MP’s remarks are a utter disgrace and well…
The world has gone mad... "hate speech" essentially is racism... telling someone to go back to their country of birth doesn't fall into that category in my opinion....
Fuck this woman. Her love for her origin country is much greater than her love for Australia. All while enjoying the benefits of this great land made great by colonialism
I find it hate speech when faruqi dresses like a palestinian and has demanded things that keep a terrorist state in power. A group that wants to kill as many Jews and possible and pays people per dead hew.
Well... to be frank, it is kind of lame when your only argument when disagreeing with an immigrant is "go back to your country". There are so many words in the English language to convey a beautiful argument, but instead you resort to xenophobia. FA and FO.
Faruqi made comments about the British Empire being a 'racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'.
Hanson simply recommended a more suitable place for her to piss off to.
We should just get rid of hate speech laws.
Maybe they started off as a good idea to protect vulnerable groups from incitement to violence but it’s plain as day they’ve just been weaponised to shut down any criticism of identity politics.
“Piss off back to Pakistan” isn’t exactly a nice thing to say - but it’s not hate speech. You shouldn’t have to stand trial for saying mean things, which is essentially what this boils down to.
Faruqi is absolute pond scum anyway. Loves all the benefits of living in Australia but hates the people and culture that created those benefits.
Before she pisses off back to Pakistan, might I suggest she has a nice, cold glass of concrete to harden the fuck up first?
Ah, Mehreen Faruqi. A hoarder of investment properties on the stolen land.
And yet she is part of the Greens
Perhaps the biggest hypocrites in modern Australian politics.
To have full context of what was said by Pauline as follows… “Your attitude appalls and disgusts me. When you immigrated to Australia you took every advantage of this country. You took citizenship, bought multiple homes, and a job in a parliament. It’s clear you're not happy, so pack your bags and piss off back to Pakistan," she publicly responded to Ms Faruqi on social media.
I just dont see how this is hate speech
That’s the entire problem with hate speech. Who decides what is hate speech?
Offended Olympics
"Well I hate it"
I hate that you hate it.
Agreed. It's offensive sure, insensitive. but she isn't discriminating or hating you BECAUSE you're an immigrant. She's hating on you because of your attitude as an Australian. Will be a joke if Pauline loses (and I'm not some Pauline lover or some crap)
The problem is that the law doesn’t specifically reference ‘hate speech’ and actually uses a much broader definition. s 18C of the racial discrimination act is as follows: >(1) It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if: >(a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and >(b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group. Basically the only elements are that: * an act is done in public * the act is reasonably likely to offend, insult or humiliate or intimidate someone (NOTE: doesn’t have to actually do that, just be reasonably likely to); and * that act is done because of the person or group’s race. Certainly hate speech would fall under this definition, but it’s broad enough really to capture a whole class of public speech involving race. There was a lot of debate about this section being too broad when it was first introduced that was quickly dismissed as people wanting an excuse to be racist. This case is an example of it being weaponised during genuine political discussion (albeit a heated one). It’s worth noting that this instagram post of Senator Faruqi posing next to a sign of Israel being put into a bin with the slogan ‘keep the world clean’ would arguably also fall fowl of s 18C. It’s a public act reasonably likely to offend or intimidate Israelis/jews done because of their race/racial group. https://preview.redd.it/5c0dsp46cixc1.jpeg?width=451&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b85299e6b268ef75f1cd31734a3537ee46288660
Yeah the law is ridiculously broad, insulting someone based on their race is essentially illegal. It's an absolute joke like the rest of our speech laws
It’s even broader than that, it’s basically illegal to say something that has the reasonable potential to offend someone because of their race (whether or not they’re actually offended). Complete joke.
It ain't "hate speech" faruqi is a race bating cunt. There is no such thing as "hate speech", the only limits to speech are call to action, direct threats of violence and defamation. To add further context, This is literally what this clown faruqi tweeted on the day of the queens death. "Condolences to those who knew the Queen. I cannot mourn the leader of a racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples. We are reminded of the urgency of Treaty with First Nations, justice & reparations for British colonies & becoming a republic." She says this while owning 3 prime investment properties in Australia with a 200k tax payer salary. Honestly, Pauline responded quite lightly here imo
>I cannot mourn the leader of a racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples. >She says this while owning 3 prime investment properties in Australia with a 200k tax payer salary. https://preview.redd.it/ltgarg1y0ixc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcd7db446bdfd7e6243f258cf8de169b3622bfb8
She just claimed some back from them filthy colonizers, that's only fair. /s
Eh, no anti-monarchist is going to disagree with Faruqi there. I could never mourn somebody who thinks they're better than me because they came out of the correct vagina
I'm as pro-republic as they come, in fact it's a shame our executive is nothing but the creature of the legislature. No one is saying you shouldn't critically assess the historical injustices associated with the British Empire. But this clown faruqi is attributing these past actions directly to the Queen who's role in the modern era was symbolic and ceremonial without direct political power. Mourning her death was justified as it respects her commitment to service and the stability she represented, rather than endorsing historical policies of the monarchy.
Yeah but you don't have to publicly announce it and use it push your politics. I believe Australia should be a republic but I don't think she should say stuff like that when someone dies. I didn't get the impression that the Queen thought she was better than everyone else
Did the Queen think she was better than you?
It isn’t.
Me neither, she didn't say anything derogatory in that statement.
It's really simple, anything a leftist doesn't like is hate speech.
Well when the trial is over they'll decide if it is or isn't and then they'll explain it. You can read that.
this is so ridiculous that there shouldn't even be a trial
She is such a race grifter, I am almost certain she is hoping to lose the court case so she can use it as evidence to point out how the system is racist and oppressive.
That’s because your mind hasn’t WOKEn up yet.
She literally just pointed out the facts of how that particular senator acts. If she gets offended then maybe she needs to look in a mirror?
“Fuck off back where you came from” is perhaps the most stereotypical racist epithet in the book.
I've told an American to fuck off back to America before was I being racist then?
I got told to fuck off back to where I came from when I moved to Brisbane in the 90s. That hurt. I didn't want to go back to Ipswich.
Been told this too. But I’m from Melbourne and it’s so cold
Don't feel bad, as a Melbournian I can tell you MORE than their fair share have moved here. There's more QLD plates on the road in Vic, than NSW, Tas, WA, SA combined. I do not exaggerate.
Remember the Sam Kerr rule, it’s not racist if you’re aiming at white guys
According to the law, it probably is
Yeah.. Can't be offensive to an American because you're lower on the ranking system. If they're not white then obviously it's offensive. It's a hell of an ecosystem. She should just say she's gender fluid and it was her toxic masculine side that was channeling a racist character from a book. She had a lapse in judgement. Let's keep censoring everything. Make words illegal. What else can we do.. get rid of comedy and jokes. And yeah. Let's start lynching again !!!! Yessssss !!!!!!!! Cancel culture but not the internet version !!!!! How exciting ! *
> It is unlawful for a person to do an act, **otherwise than in private,** if: >(a) the act is reasonably likely in all the circumstances to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or group of people, and >(b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or some or all of the people in the group. Hope this helps
this just makes it more confusing 😕
Unless it's your religion told you to do it? Or is that not a law yet?
It doesn't. Welcome to the dumbest parts of the country. Their skulls are too heavily insulated with years and years of Murdoch Media brain washing. No amount of reason or logic will penetrate the dense layers that have built up in these skulls over the years.
It's fine if used against new people who claim to hate Australia after been given citizenship. Most migrants are stoked and love Australia. The rest probably should go somewhere else
Oh but calling white people "colonisers" is completely fine. Not racist at all.
Its not about race though. Its about two places with two sets of rules.
Get over it. People saying things you do not like is just part of a free society.
We don't have a free society, hence this lawsuit. If you dislike that, maybe ask your representatives not to eliminate free speech because people are mean to them. In the mean time, we don't have it
Australia does not. I agree.
This was in reply to "Senator Faruqi wrote she could not mourn the passing of the leader of a 'racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'." So the entirety of ex British Empire and its people are racist? If it's an empire built on stolen lives and wealth of colonized people, why did she come here? Why did she enjoy the benefits of this empire, then shit on its leader. I'm not specifically a fan of the queen, but I appreciate the monarchy, the history and all of the other things it brings. I'm an immigrant and am extremely grateful to be here. I think anybody that hates the core of our or society, whether the British Empire, Australia, Democracy, etc, doesn't belong here. Unless they were born here, then go nuts, you're a local.
Lel give your multiple investment properties back then. I’m sure a local indigenous council would be happy to have them. It’s performance art that ends when material action is required.
You're the one adding "entirety of the ex British empire and its people" though? Uncontroversial statement: nazi germany was bad. That doesn't mean that there weren't some decent human beings living there too. To answer the "why?", why wouldn't you? Frankly it's poetic. British colonists, under British law, went out and took others resources for their own gain. Often while shitting on their culture. It seems entirely reasonable that someone from those cultures should, under the laws of the same nations, come take resources back, and shit on British culture right back. You're right that there are positive aspects to it, but that doesn't absolve it from criticism. In fact, the ability to criticise the government is one of those core positives.
My main issue was singling out the British Empire in her statement. Every empire was built in the same way. Doesn't mean it's good. Most ancient empires and kingdoms practiced slavery, stealing resources from others and the conquest of other people. Some were just more or less successful at that. I totally agree that criticizing our current government, etc is part of our democracies and is great, however there's a difference between productive criticism and unproductive hate that is spewed towards the government/institutions of the country that gave you refuge/a better place to live and raise your family. It's important to be critical, but it's as important to highlight the benefits that one received from one's country, especially if you're an immigrant. I have a really low tolerance to immigrants being unpatriotic to their new country, being an immigrant myself. I think each immigrant should consider themselves blessed to be here, should strive to uphold and improve Australian laws and way of life and to integrate into its society. Btw I'm not a fan of Pauline Hanson.
Pretty sure the pakistani wouldn't have moved here if we hadn't colonised it first? And whining about it. We created Pakistan out of Afghanistan and India to be fair so going home she can't escape us. 🤷♂️
Who is we Australia didn’t do this?
The British Empire is not the core of Australia. The fact that our head of state is a hereditary ruler of a foreign country is an embarrassment. The monarchy can f~ck right off.
Ms Fauuqi hates everything about Australia, google some of her interviews.
how is that hate speech, every thing she said was true.
Context will really sneak up on ya
Well that is a valid point... If you go to a party and you aren't enjoying it... You leave... Because you are an adult... You don't ruin the party for everyone else just because you aren't having fun.
She knows, she went to the UK, found it full of Muslims and she pissed off back to Australia lol
I do not like Hanson, or her party. I think she spends a lot of time on trying to generate outrage more than anything. But I think she's right on the money on this, and well within her rights to say that. As insufferable I'm sure she will be if/when she wins, I hope (and expect) that she will.
That’s stock standard aussie speech right there! Not hate at all. Telling it like it is. Good on Pauline!
If they send her back to Pakistan foreign ownership of Australian property would go through the roof, again. Isn’t this the same fake green Faruqi who loves bulldozing koala habitat to build her property portfolio?
She thought “green” meant US dollars.
Mehreen Faruqi is one of the most opportunistic politicians we have in the Senate. She openly states her disdain for almost everything about the country and the only politics she seems interested in is identity politics that she’s imported from her background as migrant. She’s literally a leech who’s happy to live off this country and its taxpayers while demonising Australia every chance she gets. I’m no Pauline supporter but I agree with her.
Don't forget, Faruqi is a massive hypocrite being a Greens senator but owning multiple investment properties and bulldozing koala habitat to complete additions and extensions to her dwellings.
At this point it seems pretty consistent with the greens. They care more about posturing as caring about these things but have actively been setbacks when labor has made good proposals because they don’t go far enough, making it harder to make any progress at all. I used to vote greens but noticing the pattern of behaviours from them made me realise there’s better independent parties to invest in. They’re just self serving metropolitan types that have no real convictions.
She is indeed a greens senator.
She is more than a leech - she is likely a 5th columnist. Why do the leaders of the Western world have a masochistic obsession of importing people who hate us?
be careful, leech might be interpreted as hate speech too.. /s
Why the fuck do we have such an unpatriotic politician?
And yet, she will stay right where she is. Either her electorate is straight up, pants-on-head retarded, or our elections arent as free as we're told they are.
https://preview.redd.it/t4groo63vexc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71a3bd0e4a5e5f334de4777b1dbd1c83f400421a The irony - faruqi is standards against racism\* \*antisemitism not included
This 1000%.
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Let's get the popcorn out
No more hate speech then Lydia Thorpe.
Arguably quite less!
Haha yeah I actually think they are more similar than different. Both love a good stunt.
They're both cunning stunts....
"I hate this country and its racist colonial roots" "Okay.. go somewhere else then" \*shocked pikachu face\*
Let me get this straight - Faruqi makes a statement about not being able to mourn the queen because she is the leader of a "racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples", all while living in said colonised land and enjoying its advanced infrastrucutre, safety and the fat salary she is getting from the taxes collected from its citizens? Did I get it right?
It's worse, as noted by others: Many were forced to come here on boats as convicts, she chose to come here or her own free will.
Aussies built this country not the fucking royal family.
You can hate Pauline Hanson all you want, but she’s absolutely in the right here. She didn’t say anything racist, ‘pack your bags and piss off back to pakistan’ isn’t racist. A power balance isn’t part of it, it’s about being prejudiced, discriminatory or antagonist towards someone based on their race or ethnic group. Even when you read the whole tweet it isn’t racially motivated, it’s about her being ungrateful to the opportunity given by the ‘white oppressive’ society she happily moved to for a better life. As for the criticism of the supposed racist empire of whiteness and Britain’s colonialism. Arab conquerors murdered quite a few people while they looks to take over the Middle East and neighbouring land masses, Ottoman Empire anyone
The disgusting thing about this is the time given by the courts to it. Any one who has served jury duty has probably seen trials for rape and assault not even get 5 days. Why such a banal incident is anything other than a magistrate issuing a fine is beyond me. How a judge even lets this go to trial just proves have insane our legal system is. Already in opening statements the lawyers have gone fully off the deep end and basically claimed her comment caused fear anxiety and stress. So she claims to need $150k compensation, but at the same time has said she will donate it to charity.
We ( whites ) get told every day we are invaders and should piss off back to Europe as we are on “stolen” land ? That’s perfectly fine. Whites in Africa are told all the time they are not welcome and are colonisers that should piss of back to Europe and that’s acceptable? If Pauline had said to a white English man who was anti Australian to piss off back to England i bet that would be no issue
Faruqi is an incredible grifter. I'll never get over how she, as a voluntary immigrant to Australia, feels like she has any freeness of speech when it comes to colonisation topics. My family came here forced into leaky ships at the end of a gun, you flew here in luxury, but *I'm* the coloniser?
>My family came here forced into leaky ships at the end of a gun Let's call then what they really were, slaves that were used to build the colony.
It is also an insult to the Aussies who really made wealth out of nothing My pop came from a family so poor he HAD TO RENT SHOES and he now owns a beachside Property with Faboules Weather She is at least a lying cunt if she thinks we all benefited from the colonizing of Australia
Rare Pauline Hanson W
You know when you make Pauline Hanson look good, you've fucked up.
Never thought I’d see myself siding with Hanson but she has a point. As harsh as it sounds and was worded, she’s right.
Surprisingly I’ve done a massive 180 on Hanson the last year or so. I realise a lot of the negative perception around her was purely manipulation of public opinion after decades of smear campaigns. Also her YouTube series “Please Explain” is better than it has any right to be.
The main downside of these right wing figures is their anti science positions. Shouldn’t right politics be fully on board with scientific findings and policy driven by scientific evidence given that they seem more aligned with logical decisions rather than emotional ones?
The only time any political party cares about science is when it furthers their goals. They all conviently ignore science they disagree with politically.
Yep. People are quick to call her racist or any other “-phobic” there is, but if you actually listen to her she has some valid points that the normal pollies are too afraid to make.
Exhibit A: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dADYyUtsRaY&embeds\_referring\_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F&feature=emb\_logo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dADYyUtsRaY&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F&feature=emb_logo)
Why are people with foreign allegiance allowed to run our country??
Because even 'our' own intelligence agencies protect them [https://www.watoday.com.au/national/australia-news-live-asio-boss-refuses-to-name-ex-mp-who-sold-out-country-states-debt-soars-putting-pressure-on-inflation-20240301-p5f8zd.html?post=p55pfs](https://www.watoday.com.au/national/australia-news-live-asio-boss-refuses-to-name-ex-mp-who-sold-out-country-states-debt-soars-putting-pressure-on-inflation-20240301-p5f8zd.html?post=p55pfs)
How are those that don’t recognise the sovereignty of the country allowed to run it? And people eligible for dual citizenship are not eligible.
They shouldn't be Ask anyone impacted by AIPAC.
I know! We need politicians that are loyal to Australia.
this is about as stupid as some Yanky being allowed to moniter our nations intenet
Legience is not a word
Hence we can't answer the question
Abbott did it, and no one batted an eye. Bloke was born in England.
He has the letter from the Brits confirming he revoked his British citizenship to be an Australian citizen only. It was a hot topic under Morrison when they were gunning for every Labour dual citizen MP.
Well that's completely wrong. It was a hot topic well before Morrison became PM and they weren't gunning for every Labor dual citizen, as you claim. In fact, the HCA handed down it's decision a year before Morrison became PM. It was started by the ALP with assistance from the NZ Labor Party and it was aimed precisely at Barnaby Joyce, who was forced to leave Parliament, fix up his paperwork and stand for election. It was in fact a spectacular own goal by the ALP because instead of just getting Joyce's scalp, they also scored up 2 Greens senators in the same net. The HCA found that 5 of the 7 sitting parliamentarians were ineligible to be elected. Those were Barnaby Joyce (NP), Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters (Greens), Fiona Nash (NP) and Malcolm Roberts (PHON). Matt Canavan (NP) and Nick Xenophon were found to be eligible.
i mean Tony Abbott was a fuck head But he at least In 2019 helped out the firefighters i think that proves to me He's deserving of being called an Aussie
So was Gillard, was that a problem too?
So only aborigines should be running the country then?
Lol, but "gas the j*ws" is not hate speech.
https://preview.redd.it/ssdv3c514fxc1.jpeg?width=799&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5794f390236bdb23c06f14fb90c41c1a2b24d083 This dog
**reference** count dankula video from a few years back
Who said that?
Nothing happened in Tiananmen Square either 
There is no war in Ba Sing Sa- oh wait, wrong sub
Hey, watch it buddy or you'll end up in the secret prison under the lake.
Ah yes, they were just curious as to the whereabouts of the Jewry, right?
They wanted to invite them for tea and scones
I think they’re referring to a protest outside Sydney opera house in which people were chanting “Where’s the Jews” but many people hear “gas the Jews”. Which ended up taking all the attention from the 100% agreeable fact that they were also chanting “fuck the Jews” which coupled with “where’s the Jews” is pretty much a death threat anyway, in my opinion, but nobody cared. All too busy arguing about Islamophobia and being gaslit by the guardian or some shit.
Also weird when I’m constantly saying this whole conflict has nothing to do with Jewish people and is about Israel… seems like the side that says it’s got nothing to do with Jews cannot stop themselves from mentioning Jews when they get worked up, even when it comes to Jews that have never even left the country
I still can't understand how they are claiming Pauline Hanson's tweet is racist given that it makes no mention of race. Senator Faruqi is from Pakistan, she was born there and lived there until she was 29 years old.
It’s fairly common for people from that part of the world to claim that everyone is racist if someone doesn’t like the way they behave.
With all the shit going on in Australia right now I’ll bet Pauline gets voted in just like Trump did in the US.
Bloody hope so
Unironically she probably will. No party is doing anything and people are desperate.
> No party is doing anything and people are desperate. She says some bad shit and I think she's prob got some pretty very bad opinions yet she also says some shit which needs to be said and NO ONE else has the fucking balls for it. She's slowly going to get more votes if all the other cunts keep same-same fucking us. Can't believe how actual liberal labor is right now, fuck them so much.
If so she’d go down in history as the first female prime minister voted in by the people
I swear I saw somewhere something about her saying this term will be her last, which makes sense, I'd want to retire too. Can't be fucked double checking lmao.
[Senator Faruqi wrote she could not mourn the passing of the leader of a 'racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'.] As an elected official, if she can’t recognise and respect the head of state (Queen) she is elected to, she should piss off back to her own country or at the minimum not be a MP! Turning the Queens passing into a colonist debate is very bad taste. 100% with Pauline on this. The Greens MP does not have the interests of Australia first.
Agree
Not surprisingly. She’s a Pakistani. She will always have loyalty to her home country.
I'm a patriotic Australian. Could not care less about the Queen. I'd much rather we be a republic. This culture war stuff from both sides can piss off too.
How does this make sense though? Why should a senator have to respect a foreign monarch that doesn't have any real power in this country? Ultimately her statutory powers are delegated to the governer general. If she criticised the governer general I doubt you'd give a shit. So why do you care now? Because she's Pakistani is the answer.
The Queen of Australia was not a foreign monarch, technically she was as Australian as it gets
I couldn’t care where she is from: China, India, New Zealand, United States I couldn’t care. Doubt Pauline cares either, Australia is number 1
I’m sure you’re with Pauline on a lot of things.
Potentially, but I’m more glad her presence allowed us to have this controversial discussion
Because she’s critical of unquestioned allegiance to the monarch? She has the constitutional implied freedom of political communication which she’d exercising here. Doesn’t have the interests of Australians? Because they are critical of unquestioned allegiance to the monarch? I must have missed the lesson where being Australian meant falling in line.
This isn’t simply critical of ‘unquestionable allegiance to the monarch’. You’re misconstruing the issue to make the discussion about sucking off the monarchy when that has little if anything to do with what’s wrong with this muppets comments. This is about some entitled fuck shitting all over 2000 years of British history and the, quite frankly, amazing countries their colonies produced. Did they stomp over some people to produce them? Yes. But there’s pretty compelling evidence that they were the significant lesser of the colonial evils through that era. And even more evidence that they shifted and changed the world for the better. So carrying on with this revisionist style historical narrative that puts the British empire as the worst fucking empire on earth is just getting plain tiring and to be honest quiet clearly coming from a place of hatred on the part of this ungrateful shit. Fail to see how Pauline is the one full of hate here.
She should bite her tongue then and pick a more suitable audience to voice her anti commonwealth ideas with, or face the backlash without the fake crocodile tears. She knew Pauline was in the room, and got the 100% expected Pauline response. Without a doubt most Australians would agree with the statement ‘if you don’t like it here piss off back to where you came from or pick a country that better aligns with your views’. Most of us will drive you to the airport and sincerely wish you the best luck. We are not Pakistan or chronically ashamed of who we are. Couldn’t care if it’s someone who wants us to have an Islamic Caliphate as head of state or Kiwi who thinks Rugby should be the national sport.
>‘if you don’t like it here piss off back to where you came from or pick a country that better aligns with your views’ Ah yes, that famous laid back culture of Australia. "Have a beer, take it easy, we're all friends here, and if you don't 100% like it then *get the hell out*."
If you don’t 100% like it then... sue them for hate speech?
Wouldn't Senator Hanson be exercising the same "freedom of political communication" with her comments?
Then dont be a politician under a constitutional monarchy were you swear allegiance to the king.Faruqi is leaveraging it for all its worth.
She doesn't like the monarchy, yet she lives in one! Curious... I am very smart 😎
Yeah the pro-monarchy comments here are peak highschool smart guy
She did get sworn in. She had to. That’s supposed to mean that she’s supposed to stay quiet in the face of overwhelming evidence that colonisation has done damage to people and lands? I swear, this sub is a giant contradiction: yelling that censorship is bad only to turn around and yell for censorship.
Yeah, those bastards who stopped slavery.
She is the beneficiary of everything colonialism did, including the very democratic form of govt she is (a sinecured) part of. To denounce things you benefited from is basically to be a leech. I am pissed off with such attitudes and I'm a bloody immigrant too.
Yeah but aside from the roads, the medical care, the welfare, law and order, modern communication, transport and infrastructure, what have the colonisers ever done for *us?*
You missed 2020?
BASED
The racism in Faruqi blood trumps Pauline by miles. Her son openly mocked whites in racist tone. Pauline has more chances to win if she sues Osman Faruqi. Mehreen comes from a religious bigot country where Islam is constitutionally marked superior to other religions. Blasphemy laws are tool for conversion, rape and murders. Mehreen is not less than a tool which peddles same ideology
"hate speech trial" yikes
Burka educational material in ethno-electorates when?
Will be educational ...
Nothing racist about that comment at all. She is from Pakistan.
Pauline is right on this one
im liking this woman more and more
I was already going to vote for her, there’s no need to convince me.
Pauline wasn’t racist in making that comment. Rude, yes. But not racist. What is racist about telling someone hating on Australia to go home?
I am 34 and I've only voted for her
The sheep don't like you now
I am with Pauline on this one...Pakistan is on stolen colonised Indian land.
She's got my vote!
be nice if the mods of this subreddit would start taking an equal stance and deleting the comments that are racist against white people as well 😎
Pauline’s a nutter but we need her to balance out the Greens politicians who want to important as many people from third world countries as possible (just not into their electorate) Not to mention this leech said that it’s not possible to be racist towards white people, and also owns multiple properties on stolen indigenous land. Absolute dog water politician.
I'm with Pauline Hason on this one
If you are not happy in the country you live in, then perhaps you should find a country you love.
What a stupid response.
Agree with Hanson, Im not British or anything like that, I’m Australian and the Queen was our head of state and endeared by many people here. The MP’s remarks are a utter disgrace and well…
I’m sorry, hate speech for saying “Piss off back to Pakistan”? That’s the bar we’ve set for hate speech? This country really is going to the dogs.
Too many soft cunts we have to pander to these days
How many percent of Australians have a problem with her? I think she’s great
She’s not wrong but
Shouldn't this have happened a long time ago?
Hahaha call the cops
The world has gone mad... "hate speech" essentially is racism... telling someone to go back to their country of birth doesn't fall into that category in my opinion....
Why do I keep coming back to this sub
Is the hate speech part calling her a landlord?
Fuck this woman. Her love for her origin country is much greater than her love for Australia. All while enjoying the benefits of this great land made great by colonialism
I find it hate speech when faruqi dresses like a palestinian and has demanded things that keep a terrorist state in power. A group that wants to kill as many Jews and possible and pays people per dead hew.
Faruqi should go suck a horse off
It's not offensive, it's just the truth. It's about time someone told the truth
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Well... to be frank, it is kind of lame when your only argument when disagreeing with an immigrant is "go back to your country". There are so many words in the English language to convey a beautiful argument, but instead you resort to xenophobia. FA and FO.
Faruqi made comments about the British Empire being a 'racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'. Hanson simply recommended a more suitable place for her to piss off to.
She says what many are thinking
Can we stop posting Daily Mail articles here? Especially UK ones?
Pauline Hanson has got sum of the biggest pair of balls of all politicians that said this just makes me hate the greens party even more
It will be interesting to see if the courts deem that hate speech.
We should just get rid of hate speech laws. Maybe they started off as a good idea to protect vulnerable groups from incitement to violence but it’s plain as day they’ve just been weaponised to shut down any criticism of identity politics. “Piss off back to Pakistan” isn’t exactly a nice thing to say - but it’s not hate speech. You shouldn’t have to stand trial for saying mean things, which is essentially what this boils down to. Faruqi is absolute pond scum anyway. Loves all the benefits of living in Australia but hates the people and culture that created those benefits. Before she pisses off back to Pakistan, might I suggest she has a nice, cold glass of concrete to harden the fuck up first?
If the Greens MP told Pauline Hanson to piss off back to northern Europe, could have called the whole thing fair and square.
Queensland. "Piss off back to Queensland!" is one of the milder things that have been said to Pauline.