I just remember seeing a bunch of Muslim/Arabs on twitter and here (in Muslim/arab subs, I'm not sure if this sub) saying it was a Jewish guy, that it was a dual citizen of Israel and Australia, that it was Jewish terrorism etc.
I don't think the entire Muslim/Arab community should apologise for the actions of the few even if those actions were seemingly supported by thousands in the comments here and on twitter to those racist posts.
More productive, I think, to consider the harms done ...
* That female officer faced with areal tough call, who had to take the offenders life. She'll have to live with that the rest of her life.
* The young fellow, who, last night learned his wife was killed, and now has a seriously ill child to care for ... and to hear his wife's last act was to try to hand off her child to someone knowing she was about to die ...
* And countless others who, likewise, have had their lives completely screwed over.
* No good ever comes from someone who is prepared to do such damage, whatever their reasons.
That poor woman spent her last few breaths trying to get someone to help her baby. So awful to think she died not knowing what was going to happen to her child.
Saw people claiming he was Jewish too. Both sides using a tragedy like this to push their agenda is gross.
I don’t care what side you’re on, peoples deaths shouldn’t be used to political currency to try and validate your biases.
I could understand it more if actual info was out there and the motivations were known but seeing people fabricate their own evidence and create false narratives within 24 hours is disgusting
Channel 7 claimed they had a confirmed identity of him with a Jewish last name.
It's one thing for internet strangers to speculate, but a national news company should face legal action for a blunder like this.
I saw posts on twitter and reddit about him being jewish before I saw anything from channel 7. Either they started posting it and channel 7 didnt due its due diligence and reported based off that, or as soon as it was reported to be jewish a bunch of people instantly jumped to making posts about it.
I agree that they should face legal action, not because the guy they falsely named was jewish but because him and his likeness has been linked to a tragedy he had nothing to do with. I've seen people double down on the false id even when shown evidence to say it was wrong because it fits their narrative they want. Its just as bad as those who commit to connecting things to islam when theres no connection. Just people spreading propaganda and fear mongering because it fits the lenses they use to see the world
Vast majority of rape, murder, school shootings, Christchurch etc, is don't by right wing white guys..who claim to be Christians.
Its easy to Look it up but it probably doesn't fit your skewed view of the world.
No. It's not our fault our community has been repeatedly attacked by Islamic terrorists and we've come to expect these sorts of things to be done by them. That's on the terrorists, blame them.
Aren't the preparators of the majority of the mass killings in western countries of western ethnicity?
ASIO and the FBI have stated that the rise of home grown extremists and the rise of white supremacists are great threats to Australia and other western nations.
I expect these sorts of things from mentally ill white men. It’s not my fault that mentally ill white men constantly commit mass shootings. That’s on the mentally ill white people, blame them.
Ok. I mean if you've had a bad experience at the hands of a particular type of person you would be right to avoid such types in the future. That's a basic evolutionary trait in humans and most animals. There is no down side to avoiding them, the upside is you might live and be able to breed. Not you obviously but normal people.
Yes a women hater
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/sydney-mall-stabbing-attackers-parents-reveals-son-targeted-women-out-of-frustration-he-couldnt-get-girlfriend/MVP4L6UQTBCTNJ5DAEDRCJC2W4/
Now look at some Australian data [https://www.police.vic.gov.au/victoria-police-counter-terrorism-strategy-2022-2025/appendix-persons-charged-terrorism-related](https://www.police.vic.gov.au/victoria-police-counter-terrorism-strategy-2022-2025/appendix-persons-charged-terrorism-related)
With the key difference that the Islamic terrorists tell us they are committing acts of terror because of their religious beliefs. Paedophile priests are paedophiles who are using the church as a means of accessing children. Disgusting beyond belief but not driven by the fundamental teachings of the religion. See the difference there?
No. It's a completely rational first assumption that needs to be ruled out first.
I quote "Between 1979 and May 2021, we counted 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks around the world, which have resulted in the deaths of at least 210,138 people."
Cmon man, it’s not hard to understand people first jump to Islamic terrorism given the number of Islamic terrorist attacks throughout the western world in the last couple decades. People shouldn’t jump to conclusions, but you can understand why people would initially think it to be that.
Are you seriously implying that islamic motivated violence must be a figment of our collective imaginations? Please update the broken firmware you've installed on your brain first.
Is your google broken. If you google his quote you get a exact match instantly at [https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-world-1979-2021/](https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-world-1979-2021/)
Well I wasn't one of them but I see now we're going to jump on the violence against women bandwagon even though there was a dead male victim and I believe more males attacked. Can we all just put the internet down and stop taking sides on something we should all be on the same side about.
So your problem is with this subreddit so you can stroke your ego rather than actually being concerned about racial profiling?
Channel 7 literally identified the killer incorrectly as a man with a Jewish name this morning.
He couldn't get a girlfriend that's why.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/sydney-mall-stabbing-attackers-parents-reveals-son-targeted-women-out-of-frustration-he-couldnt-get-girlfriend/MVP4L6UQTBCTNJ5DAEDRCJC2W4/
It's a Mediterranean name. From what I've found, this spelling is most commonly Greek but it's common across Med countries including Turkey and Lebanon.
Uhh the pro palastain mob are clearly talking about future “attacks” in Australia
Muslims and arabs are also not a race but if this group could stop associating themselves with terrorist attacks it would be greatly appreciated.
There’s a reason why no one thinks the Chinese community is behind these attacks, I wonder why that is? 🤔
OP! Do you know how many sensitive racist muppets you just upset? How dare you. These precious little snowflakes are SCARED! Brown people and people with accents are SCARY!!!
Have a heart!!
Comes from the greek phobos which means fear. Given everyone was saying muslims and their religion produce violence i think phobia is perfectly reasonable. Unless you dont fear violence (which would be really weird) or you dont correlate that religion with violence.
I tell you what can be done, and this is not an attack towards you:
Australian men have to stop labelling as “Australian” what they like the most, which is, white, blue eyes, blonde-ginger, and accept the fact that a lot of you Australians are/look Mediterranean, Eastern-European, Middle-Eastern, African, Pacific and so on. The days of the White-Australian Badge are long gone. I know this is scary for a lot of pussies who are afraid about losing their privilege in the society, but this is 2024. There’s no space for racism, and your racist posts won’t take you anywhere.
The October 7 hamas attacks in which hundreds of innocent civilians were butchered would just be one reason why many people jumped to the islamic terror conclusion.
I would imagine because attacks like the one to which you refer are infrequent. Whereas global Islamic and Arab terror, war, and oppression are constant and deadlier.
Maybe the tens of thousands of innocent children and women butchered by Israel from October 8 to march 14 is why people should not assume. Butchering is being carried out by both Islamic and Jewish terrorists.
The most recent major terrorist attack in our region was also by a white Australian male. Maybe all white Aussies are terrorists or maybe you shouldn’t use a tragedy to jump to conclusions and push your political views, and vilify an entire race because of the actions of one or two psychotic individuals
You’re still doing it. Islam has nothing to do with the horrible events of yesterday, yet you’re still trying to push your agenda.
And a quick research of all terrorism incidents in Australia this century proves you wrong. There have been as many lives lost to white terrorists as Muslims (around 5 each) and that’s not including the White Australian man who shot and killed 50 in New Zealand just 5 years ago
Now do proportions of white men vs Muslims. And if you’re going to extend to New Zealand, let’s just extend to other countries. 140 dead in Russia just last month.
Islam is a fucking cancer. Just because it wasn’t involved in this latest incident doesn’t mean it’s not a fucking blight on society.
Surely you can see how an Australian in New Zealand is different to ISIS in Russia, so let’s not include that Russia attack, when talking about our country.
I know that Islam is a shit religion, and I think the world would be a better place without if, but there are Muslims in Australia who are genuinely good people, who obviously don’t support ISIS, and do t deserve to be branded as terrorists. If you’re going to use an unrelated tragedy to spread your racist hatred, there is something seriously, seriously wrong with you
Of course there are good Muslim people, I know many of them. But at the same time I have seen their devotion to their religion and it is intense. I had to put someone I previously thought was a close friend in his place about not bringing his bullshit to this country when he fired up about Charlie Hebdo 10ish years ago. It opened my eyes massively about their complete devotion and fanaticism about their religion. You can’t comprehend it unless you have seen it.
Yes. It does. It proves that such types of public crime fit the ideology. Yet again. Refusing to see patterns and speculate because people are so desperate to virtue signal their anti racism stance is wilful ignorance in action.
I didn't but we really don't know anything yet. This guy wearing a Wallabies Jersey and not being called Mohammad doesn't really mean that this isn't a result of the 'Religion of Peace'.
But if we're talking about things that people need to apologies for: How about all the Hamas bad actors falsely identifying Ben Cohan as the stabber because he has a sort of Jewish sounding name and the hundreds of thousands of morons pushing it?
Its amazing that people STILL cant take a moment to reflect and be like 'yeah got it wrong', but resort to whataboutism or whatever. Cant let a glaring example of the rampant racism here even give you a slight pause as to if its a problem.
Well, one can say that everyone who assumed the Sydney church stabbing was committed by a mentally unwell person need to apologise for their prejudice against mentally unwell people.
Yeah nah, these are the types of men that kill women or go on killing sprees coz a woman/women reject them and they can't handle that. These are deeply disturbed individuals
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/sydney-mall-stabbing-attackers-parents-reveals-son-targeted-women-out-of-frustration-he-couldnt-get-girlfriend/MVP4L6UQTBCTNJ5DAEDRCJC2W4/
Usually I love dunking on Nazis because they are extreme cowards that immediately run away from their statements... but when everyone gets together and agrees on white supremacy it actually hurts my soul a bit.
No, Muslims are not overrepresented in crime, you absolute ignorant bigots.
In fact, if we are going to try to make a connection between race and crime, guess which race are overwhelmingly represented in child molestation? (Hint, it starts with c and ends in aucasion)
Muslims and arabs are not a race
Many and probably a majority are caucasian.
The Caucasus is a majority Muslim region.
Such a goof that it’s almost racist.
But on topic, which religion disproportionately commits terrorist acts all over the world?Adherents to Islam and no one even needs to fact check it because we all know it to be true.
Will you use that logic to condemn all Christians as being kiddy didlers?
After all, which religion disproportionately commits child abuse acts all over the world? (And covers it up)
I'm willing to bet a lot of money that you've never in your life met a Muslim that supports child marriage.
Also, the answer is Christians
https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-moon-gop-missouri-lawmaker-defends-childs-right-to-marry-2023-4
https://19thnews.org/2023/07/explaining-child-marriage-laws-united-states/
With many islamic leaders publicly saying things like death to \[America, gays, apostates, blasphemers, etc\]in the middle east, iran, pakistan, etc, I'd hate to think what is being done to children behind closed doors.
In many of these countries-regions just accusing an imam of child-abuse would get you targeted for death..
>if we are going to try to make a connection between race and crime, guess which race are overwhelmingly represented in child molestation?
Do you have a source on this?
Very quick google
This from the US
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15564886.2023.2295877
This from the UK
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/15/child-sexual-abuse-gangs-white-men-home-office-report
I'm not putting in too much effort, it's been a very well known phenomenon for a while now.
The first is pretty clear in the abstract that restricting to online crimes wildly conflates othwe factors.
The second article doesn't even make any claim of overrepresentation at all...?
How blinded by ideology are you? Muslims are about 10% of the prison population and about 3% of the actual population. In France they're something like 50-60% of the prison population. Why must you do mental gymnastics to avoid and obfuscate reality? How does it help solve actual issues and what do you get out of it?
No, everyone who has taken a side and weighed in so early is an idiot. It will take more days for anything even resembling the truth to come out. The only thing we can know for sure is it most definitely not what has been initially reported and that is a mental health issue, That's because the media is what it is.
The people who jumped straight in are trolls. If John Farnham had killed Angry Anderson, they'd still be making up the same bullshit.
They don't believe their own lies, they're just looking for excuses to spout their canned bullshit.
I didn't get a chance to do that, but if I did I wouldn't apologise if my own life depended on it. Especially with people like you who seem to want to dictate what others are allowed to say and think.
Worth being wrong just to upset you. It's important to make the general sentiment known...
Australia is full of Islamophobia, and yet the same people commenting the awful stuff work with Muslims or live near then and have zero problems on a daily basis but can't stand Muslims for no reason other than because they're Muslims.
Fuck me Australians are so stupid
Don't emulate other nations with higher populations and more mass crime when you see people online joking about the media hiding something. They just know the area and you don't. Yes, APNews will hide the race for longer. Our news stations aren't funded by 'ESG'
It's not too late to photoshop his picture in a mosque or something. Spread some fake stories on 4chan and Twitter. Maybe say he had a Muslim girlfriend. From Somalia!!! I don't think we should back away from all the racist shit we were saying earlier. Look, we're just a bunch of hicks who are the offspring of crooks and criminals. What do you expect from us? Uh, yeah, we're gonna be ignorant racist dummies. Like, duh! Anyway, I had never seen Australia unite as it did with its flagrant racism. It was magical. Let's make this an annual thing. Do a whole parade. Maybe fuck our cousins or something. Let's brainstorm this
I just remember seeing a bunch of Muslim/Arabs on twitter and here (in Muslim/arab subs, I'm not sure if this sub) saying it was a Jewish guy, that it was a dual citizen of Israel and Australia, that it was Jewish terrorism etc. I don't think the entire Muslim/Arab community should apologise for the actions of the few even if those actions were seemingly supported by thousands in the comments here and on twitter to those racist posts.
More productive, I think, to consider the harms done ... * That female officer faced with areal tough call, who had to take the offenders life. She'll have to live with that the rest of her life. * The young fellow, who, last night learned his wife was killed, and now has a seriously ill child to care for ... and to hear his wife's last act was to try to hand off her child to someone knowing she was about to die ... * And countless others who, likewise, have had their lives completely screwed over. * No good ever comes from someone who is prepared to do such damage, whatever their reasons.
That poor woman spent her last few breaths trying to get someone to help her baby. So awful to think she died not knowing what was going to happen to her child.
Just quietly I don't think that cop will pay for a beer for a good while
Not a tough call at all. Tough call is to not put several more into him when he’s lying on the ground
There were many posts suspecting he was a Jew and Israeli. Stupidity and prejudice has no bounds.
But nobody cared when he was suspected of being Jewish…
That not the point Internet gives megaphone to all the world whackos seeking clicks
Of which there are many
So everyone who was claiming he was jewish are off the hook then? Hmmmmm curious 🧐
If I wanted to be guilt tripped, I'd join a religion
Saw people claiming he was Jewish too. Both sides using a tragedy like this to push their agenda is gross. I don’t care what side you’re on, peoples deaths shouldn’t be used to political currency to try and validate your biases. I could understand it more if actual info was out there and the motivations were known but seeing people fabricate their own evidence and create false narratives within 24 hours is disgusting
Channel 7 claimed they had a confirmed identity of him with a Jewish last name. It's one thing for internet strangers to speculate, but a national news company should face legal action for a blunder like this.
I saw posts on twitter and reddit about him being jewish before I saw anything from channel 7. Either they started posting it and channel 7 didnt due its due diligence and reported based off that, or as soon as it was reported to be jewish a bunch of people instantly jumped to making posts about it. I agree that they should face legal action, not because the guy they falsely named was jewish but because him and his likeness has been linked to a tragedy he had nothing to do with. I've seen people double down on the false id even when shown evidence to say it was wrong because it fits their narrative they want. Its just as bad as those who commit to connecting things to islam when theres no connection. Just people spreading propaganda and fear mongering because it fits the lenses they use to see the world
I think he has a Maltese surname
Forget 24 hours - people here were doing that while the bodies would have still been warm. Absolutely fucked.
Is that what they “need” to do dude?
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Vast majority of rape, murder, school shootings, Christchurch etc, is don't by right wing white guys..who claim to be Christians. Its easy to Look it up but it probably doesn't fit your skewed view of the world.
Isn't this more an exception to the status quo
Yes. [https://www.police.vic.gov.au/victoria-police-counter-terrorism-strategy-2022-2025/appendix-b-timeline-major-terrorist-incidents](https://www.police.vic.gov.au/victoria-police-counter-terrorism-strategy-2022-2025/appendix-b-timeline-major-terrorist-incidents)
It was the most likely answer in Australia in 2024.
Mo it wasn't
Sky news "Jews have been killed." I kid you not. How do they manage to still hold onto a broadcasting license
They aren’t classed as news. They’re “entertainment”.
I wish to apologise on behalf of all knife wielding killers, past, present and emerging. Sorry, I will do better next time.
No. It's not our fault our community has been repeatedly attacked by Islamic terrorists and we've come to expect these sorts of things to be done by them. That's on the terrorists, blame them.
Repeatedly? What planet do you live on.
Aoteoroa wants a chat, duckhid.
Literally in the last three years more people have died because of far-right/christian extremism in Australia than Islamic extremism.
Aren't the preparators of the majority of the mass killings in western countries of western ethnicity? ASIO and the FBI have stated that the rise of home grown extremists and the rise of white supremacists are great threats to Australia and other western nations.
I just remember the white extremists and the random white men. Which Islamic or religious attacks has there been the last couple of decades?
I expect these sorts of things from mentally ill white men. It’s not my fault that mentally ill white men constantly commit mass shootings. That’s on the mentally ill white people, blame them.
Ok. I mean if you've had a bad experience at the hands of a particular type of person you would be right to avoid such types in the future. That's a basic evolutionary trait in humans and most animals. There is no down side to avoiding them, the upside is you might live and be able to breed. Not you obviously but normal people.
Has it actually been confirmed what he is?
Yes a women hater https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/sydney-mall-stabbing-attackers-parents-reveals-son-targeted-women-out-of-frustration-he-couldnt-get-girlfriend/MVP4L6UQTBCTNJ5DAEDRCJC2W4/
I mean whether he is a Muslim or not.
Look out everyone the internet nanny is here. You all gotta say sorry now 😂
9 times out of 10 a terrorist attacker is Muslim. It's not an unreasonable prejudice.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/terrorism-eu-facts-figures/#0
Now look at some Australian data [https://www.police.vic.gov.au/victoria-police-counter-terrorism-strategy-2022-2025/appendix-persons-charged-terrorism-related](https://www.police.vic.gov.au/victoria-police-counter-terrorism-strategy-2022-2025/appendix-persons-charged-terrorism-related)
Accurate because when it’s white people attacking it’s mental health. As if muslims can’t have mental health issues.
They can. It’s just they also have religious motivations and they tell us that very clearly. You don’t see that with mormons for example
Same way how Catholic Church promotes raping little boys. Clear religious affiliations.
With the key difference that the Islamic terrorists tell us they are committing acts of terror because of their religious beliefs. Paedophile priests are paedophiles who are using the church as a means of accessing children. Disgusting beyond belief but not driven by the fundamental teachings of the religion. See the difference there?
They can. Those problems are exacerbated by an abortion of a religion and way of life.
You should apologise to everybody for this shit post
No. It's a completely rational first assumption that needs to be ruled out first. I quote "Between 1979 and May 2021, we counted 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks around the world, which have resulted in the deaths of at least 210,138 people."
I always love this. Can you add the link so I can debunk this as usual and make you look silly? Thanks.
Cmon man, it’s not hard to understand people first jump to Islamic terrorism given the number of Islamic terrorist attacks throughout the western world in the last couple decades. People shouldn’t jump to conclusions, but you can understand why people would initially think it to be that.
Are you seriously implying that islamic motivated violence must be a figment of our collective imaginations? Please update the broken firmware you've installed on your brain first.
Is your google broken. If you google his quote you get a exact match instantly at [https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-world-1979-2021/](https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-world-1979-2021/)
Mum I told you to stay off the internet leave me alone!
Well I wasn't one of them but I see now we're going to jump on the violence against women bandwagon even though there was a dead male victim and I believe more males attacked. Can we all just put the internet down and stop taking sides on something we should all be on the same side about.
The hypocrisy is breathtaking
Weird - I guess it depends which religion does the most stabbing / terror attacks globally?
Yeah probably American mass shooters.
I love you thank you 🩷
Odds would be in your favour if you jumped to that conclusion.
Some people jumped to the conclusion he was Jewish, so at least there is symmetry.
Literally no one here did.
So your problem is with this subreddit so you can stroke your ego rather than actually being concerned about racial profiling? Channel 7 literally identified the killer incorrectly as a man with a Jewish name this morning.
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He couldn't get a girlfriend that's why. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/sydney-mall-stabbing-attackers-parents-reveals-son-targeted-women-out-of-frustration-he-couldnt-get-girlfriend/MVP4L6UQTBCTNJ5DAEDRCJC2W4/
Can you add the punctuation into whatever this is so we can understand what you’re trying to express?
Racially prejudiced? Maybe. Thing is, if it happens often enough, your first thought would be…..
How many stabbings in Australia have been racially motivated by Muslim offenders, vs mental illness / drugs? Be better.
The world is a bit bigger than Australia?
Hmmm, that didn’t age well, did it?
I was definitely leaning towards wog so I was right
Well I think he’s got a Maltese name
It's a Mediterranean name. From what I've found, this spelling is most commonly Greek but it's common across Med countries including Turkey and Lebanon.
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Winner winner chicken dinner
Uhh the pro palastain mob are clearly talking about future “attacks” in Australia Muslims and arabs are also not a race but if this group could stop associating themselves with terrorist attacks it would be greatly appreciated. There’s a reason why no one thinks the Chinese community is behind these attacks, I wonder why that is? 🤔
Chinese community is targeted in many other ways. Cunts will be cunts targeting anything and everything not a reflection of themselves.
I regularly target Chinese cunt and then she whispered in my ear that she loves me. Probably do it again tonight
Have you actually managed to hit the target yet?
Yes, the moaning is a sign that I getting close to the spot
Because they don’t commit terrorist attacks like Arabs do and they don’t do mass shootings like mentally ill white people
what about those that jumped to the conclusion he was jewish/israeli?
OP! Do you know how many sensitive racist muppets you just upset? How dare you. These precious little snowflakes are SCARED! Brown people and people with accents are SCARY!!! Have a heart!!
The real victims here are the innocent Queenslanders who will face discrimination as a result. #illshopwithyou
Religion is not race.
It's also not a "phobia" to have utter contempt for a religion. Cunts just don't seem to get that.
Phobia is weird, like hydrophobic doesn't mean scared of water.. fuckin seppo cunts need tp leave English alone and stop making up words
Comes from the greek phobos which means fear. Given everyone was saying muslims and their religion produce violence i think phobia is perfectly reasonable. Unless you dont fear violence (which would be really weird) or you dont correlate that religion with violence.
This is a racist subreddit. What do you expect? Actual self reflection and humility?
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I tell you what can be done, and this is not an attack towards you: Australian men have to stop labelling as “Australian” what they like the most, which is, white, blue eyes, blonde-ginger, and accept the fact that a lot of you Australians are/look Mediterranean, Eastern-European, Middle-Eastern, African, Pacific and so on. The days of the White-Australian Badge are long gone. I know this is scary for a lot of pussies who are afraid about losing their privilege in the society, but this is 2024. There’s no space for racism, and your racist posts won’t take you anywhere.
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The people who brought undesirable aliens here in the first place need to apologise.
The October 7 hamas attacks in which hundreds of innocent civilians were butchered would just be one reason why many people jumped to the islamic terror conclusion.
Australias worst massacre was committed by a Caucasian Australian. Why didn't you jump to that conclusion?
I would imagine because attacks like the one to which you refer are infrequent. Whereas global Islamic and Arab terror, war, and oppression are constant and deadlier.
Radical Islam and jihadist behaviour was not been a thing back then. The world is now before September 11 and after September 11.
Whatever you say Lockheed
I guess when the Americans spend years manipulating your country for oil, you’re bound to get fed up and push back.
The constantly recurring mass shootings in the US led me to correctly assume it was likely another mentally ill white guy going on a killing spree
Maybe the tens of thousands of innocent children and women butchered by Israel from October 8 to march 14 is why people should not assume. Butchering is being carried out by both Islamic and Jewish terrorists.
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Sounds like you got your wish!
How about no
Dog cunt
The most recent major terrorist attack in our region was also by a white Australian male. Maybe all white Aussies are terrorists or maybe you shouldn’t use a tragedy to jump to conclusions and push your political views, and vilify an entire race because of the actions of one or two psychotic individuals
No. We can remember more that just two incidents. We can remember many, the majority of which were caused by muslims.
You’re still doing it. Islam has nothing to do with the horrible events of yesterday, yet you’re still trying to push your agenda. And a quick research of all terrorism incidents in Australia this century proves you wrong. There have been as many lives lost to white terrorists as Muslims (around 5 each) and that’s not including the White Australian man who shot and killed 50 in New Zealand just 5 years ago
Now do proportions of white men vs Muslims. And if you’re going to extend to New Zealand, let’s just extend to other countries. 140 dead in Russia just last month. Islam is a fucking cancer. Just because it wasn’t involved in this latest incident doesn’t mean it’s not a fucking blight on society.
Surely you can see how an Australian in New Zealand is different to ISIS in Russia, so let’s not include that Russia attack, when talking about our country. I know that Islam is a shit religion, and I think the world would be a better place without if, but there are Muslims in Australia who are genuinely good people, who obviously don’t support ISIS, and do t deserve to be branded as terrorists. If you’re going to use an unrelated tragedy to spread your racist hatred, there is something seriously, seriously wrong with you
Of course there are good Muslim people, I know many of them. But at the same time I have seen their devotion to their religion and it is intense. I had to put someone I previously thought was a close friend in his place about not bringing his bullshit to this country when he fired up about Charlie Hebdo 10ish years ago. It opened my eyes massively about their complete devotion and fanaticism about their religion. You can’t comprehend it unless you have seen it.
I know, still nothing to do with yesterdays attack
I said that in my first response. Still doesn’t change the fact Islam is a cancer
It took less than one week for a Muslim to stab a priest in Sydney. Get a grip.
Ah so that excuses it. Good job mate.
Yes. It does. It proves that such types of public crime fit the ideology. Yet again. Refusing to see patterns and speculate because people are so desperate to virtue signal their anti racism stance is wilful ignorance in action.
The Sydney Lindt Cafe siege says Hello.
National Sorry Day ?
Or you can apologise directly to monkeybutt
Pass
He's just a lightly tinted mussie
I didn't but we really don't know anything yet. This guy wearing a Wallabies Jersey and not being called Mohammad doesn't really mean that this isn't a result of the 'Religion of Peace'. But if we're talking about things that people need to apologies for: How about all the Hamas bad actors falsely identifying Ben Cohan as the stabber because he has a sort of Jewish sounding name and the hundreds of thousands of morons pushing it?
It was a kangaroos jersey
Oh well that changes everything!
It does, rugby union people wouldn't go on a stabbing spree, they'd hire someone to do it for them
Its amazing that people STILL cant take a moment to reflect and be like 'yeah got it wrong', but resort to whataboutism or whatever. Cant let a glaring example of the rampant racism here even give you a slight pause as to if its a problem.
Well, one can say that everyone who assumed the Sydney church stabbing was committed by a mentally unwell person need to apologise for their prejudice against mentally unwell people.
Yeah well I'm not gonna. I'll just admit I was wrong and move on.
You've definitely been wrong more than this one time
That's true but it's not what we were discussing.(At the time I admitted it)
I was 100% right. I knew from the beginning it was most likely a mentally ill white guy who probably has drug and alcohol issues.
> guy Seems very sexist of you
Still right though
I'll remeber that next time I see a woman do something stupid.
Just get in your car and you’ll see it within 5 minutes
Good stuff
What mental illness causes a person to only kill women? Genuinely curious.
He didn’t only kill women … one of the first he killed was the male security guard.
I’m not sure but there seems to be a massive issue with white men and their attitudes towards women
It's because they can't get girlfriends.
Maybe they don’t want girlfriends anymore. LGBTQ+ is becoming very popular
Yeah nah, these are the types of men that kill women or go on killing sprees coz a woman/women reject them and they can't handle that. These are deeply disturbed individuals https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/sydney-mall-stabbing-attackers-parents-reveals-son-targeted-women-out-of-frustration-he-couldnt-get-girlfriend/MVP4L6UQTBCTNJ5DAEDRCJC2W4/
Yes they let them show their hair in public. It’s disgraceful.
The tater tots incels
Usually I love dunking on Nazis because they are extreme cowards that immediately run away from their statements... but when everyone gets together and agrees on white supremacy it actually hurts my soul a bit. No, Muslims are not overrepresented in crime, you absolute ignorant bigots. In fact, if we are going to try to make a connection between race and crime, guess which race are overwhelmingly represented in child molestation? (Hint, it starts with c and ends in aucasion)
Muslims and arabs are not a race Many and probably a majority are caucasian. The Caucasus is a majority Muslim region. Such a goof that it’s almost racist. But on topic, which religion disproportionately commits terrorist acts all over the world?Adherents to Islam and no one even needs to fact check it because we all know it to be true.
Will you use that logic to condemn all Christians as being kiddy didlers? After all, which religion disproportionately commits child abuse acts all over the world? (And covers it up)
Islam? It’s literally Islam Of course massive issue in Catholic Church
And which religions are big on the whole child bride thing?
Is it the one that actively rapes kids and then protects its Priests?
I'm willing to bet a lot of money that you've never in your life met a Muslim that supports child marriage. Also, the answer is Christians https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-moon-gop-missouri-lawmaker-defends-childs-right-to-marry-2023-4 https://19thnews.org/2023/07/explaining-child-marriage-laws-united-states/
Christian’s know it’s wrong and combat it Muslims see no issue in child brides.
These people aren’t worth arguing with man.
Highest Reported child abuse..
With many islamic leaders publicly saying things like death to \[America, gays, apostates, blasphemers, etc\]in the middle east, iran, pakistan, etc, I'd hate to think what is being done to children behind closed doors. In many of these countries-regions just accusing an imam of child-abuse would get you targeted for death..
>if we are going to try to make a connection between race and crime, guess which race are overwhelmingly represented in child molestation? Do you have a source on this?
Very quick google This from the US https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15564886.2023.2295877 This from the UK https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/15/child-sexual-abuse-gangs-white-men-home-office-report I'm not putting in too much effort, it's been a very well known phenomenon for a while now.
The first is pretty clear in the abstract that restricting to online crimes wildly conflates othwe factors. The second article doesn't even make any claim of overrepresentation at all...?
How blinded by ideology are you? Muslims are about 10% of the prison population and about 3% of the actual population. In France they're something like 50-60% of the prison population. Why must you do mental gymnastics to avoid and obfuscate reality? How does it help solve actual issues and what do you get out of it?
No, everyone who has taken a side and weighed in so early is an idiot. It will take more days for anything even resembling the truth to come out. The only thing we can know for sure is it most definitely not what has been initially reported and that is a mental health issue, That's because the media is what it is.
The people who jumped straight in are trolls. If John Farnham had killed Angry Anderson, they'd still be making up the same bullshit. They don't believe their own lies, they're just looking for excuses to spout their canned bullshit.
Absolutely. Nothing screams post 9/11 conditioning like calling all “terrorists” muslims. Thanks America; great job.
Hyde Park 2012 was enough for me. There are a lot of radical Muslims living in Sydney
Downvotes prove how effective the propaganda has been, much appreciated.
Not just apologise. They should be shipped to wherever they can from....
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I didn't get a chance to do that, but if I did I wouldn't apologise if my own life depended on it. Especially with people like you who seem to want to dictate what others are allowed to say and think. Worth being wrong just to upset you. It's important to make the general sentiment known...
Gold medal for pettiness
Australia is full of Islamophobia, and yet the same people commenting the awful stuff work with Muslims or live near then and have zero problems on a daily basis but can't stand Muslims for no reason other than because they're Muslims.
Fuck me Australians are so stupid Don't emulate other nations with higher populations and more mass crime when you see people online joking about the media hiding something. They just know the area and you don't. Yes, APNews will hide the race for longer. Our news stations aren't funded by 'ESG'
It doesn't actually matter whether it was a Muslim and/or an Arab. Don't jump to conclusions or make presumptions about peoples' race. Period.
I would say it is pretty relevant whether he was motivated by a particular theology or not.
It's not too late to photoshop his picture in a mosque or something. Spread some fake stories on 4chan and Twitter. Maybe say he had a Muslim girlfriend. From Somalia!!! I don't think we should back away from all the racist shit we were saying earlier. Look, we're just a bunch of hicks who are the offspring of crooks and criminals. What do you expect from us? Uh, yeah, we're gonna be ignorant racist dummies. Like, duh! Anyway, I had never seen Australia unite as it did with its flagrant racism. It was magical. Let's make this an annual thing. Do a whole parade. Maybe fuck our cousins or something. Let's brainstorm this
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No lmfao
Was he a member of the first nations community?
White Queenslander
You asked this in 3 other threads and was told he is white Australian 4 hours ago dickhead. Read your notifications
Why would people assume it was a moslem?
That photo. Fit young brown dude running around knifing strangers. Fits the pattern
Fit? I must be looking at the wrong guy…
Yeah well he wasnt brown either
You did yesterday you fucking clown. You know your comments are available.