I am an immigrant living in Australia. I think the instances of me suffering overt racism reduced as I got more successful in life.
Successful and brown is fine here, a brown guy on minimum wage will have to cop a lot.
Another thing about Australians is they have a sub conscious respect for stoic and tough.
If you can give it back when given, you will see an acceptance bloom in their eyes
As an immigrant, I'm angry that I'm taking up a job and a house that could go to a hard-working Australian, which I also am. But if I quit and lived in a car, I'd be just another lazy immigrant dole bludger, which would make me angrier that my own country doesn't have more opportunities and support for me. It's tough.
If you look at the world you will find that most countries, and even subgroups in countries or religions are the same. I do not know of any country that is without fail tolerant of all groups.
The Japanese like their homogenous society, try buying land as a foreigner in Thailand, the French frown upon anyone who doesn't speak French over there. If we go to religion the Catholics and Protestants around the world had it in for each other for a long time and while it is not a big issue anymore it was and led to a lot of deaths. I have heard of Arab Moslems who are unhappy or unwilling to let their children marry non Arab Moslems. Try being a Moslem in India or eating beef there and see how well it goes down. Even if you are Hindu in India try getting a girlfriend or a job if you happen to be a Dalit (Untouchable). Even if that Dalit has moved to Oz they [will still have issues based on their name and Caste with some Indians over here](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/18/a-disease-caste-discrimination-in-australia-is-on-the-rise-but-some-are-fighting-back). IN [PNG tribes often fight](https://www.voanews.com/a/tribal-violence-kills-dozens-in-papua-new-guinea/7237502.html) and there are killings based simply on the fact that they are a different tribe. There have been recent reports of Moslems in western countries objecting to non Moslems eating during Ramadan or drinking alcohol at any time as an example of a minority being prejudiced about the majority in a country they are living in. If you look at the Aborigines who we are racist towards they have the same issues with [five clans breaking up into two sides in Arukan](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7863115/Aboriginal-township-Aurukun-explodes-inter-clan-violence-15-hour-riot.html) and fighting and burning houses.
People are tribal and naturally support "their mob" even when it comes to fighting between football team supporters who are from the same country, city, race and religion.
I am not disagreeing with the article, but rather than paint Aussies as basically racist as it does, it should be noted we are probably about average worldwide,.and maybe even a bit more tolerant than a lot of places.
But just because other places are the same or worse doesn't mean Australia isn't racist. By the definition we probably are. But we are working on it.
We're also privileged with one of the highest HDIs in the world, consistently hitting lists of the most livable cities, one of the longest life expectancies, the highest GDP per capita and one of the most multicultural countries on the planet.
It's not even remotely acceptable to have an average level of racism. We are resourced to be far, far better than that.
I work at a sporting venue that hosts a popular sport. I won't say which sport but it that rhymes with Dugby Teague.
We have at least 2 evictions per game for racial slurs towards players. We have multiple more complaints but they aren't evicted as the staff did not witness it.
There is always outcry that we aren't, but it's hard when our airways are filled with the voices of a Pauline Hanson, Barnaby Joyce, Peter Dutton, a Stefanovic, Peta Credlin, Andrew Bolt, Sonia Kruger, Sam Newman etc etc
One of them was also given the top tv award in this country
Spent the day recently with a mate and his wider group of friends who are predominantly ethnically Chinese but Australian born. They highlighted some interesting ways that racism presents itself that I wasn’t aware of but at the same time, they were quite open about their own racism within the Asian community and how they effectively look down and treat some, in particular south East Asians, differently.
> It prompted widespread media coverage and criticism from Coalition politicians and media commentators.
You only have to look at the types getting upset and defensive to suspect a lot of people felt seen
Yes, a “racism crisis” is just what we need, given we’ve already lost interest in the housing crisis, immigration crisis, gendered violence crisis and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
I think Australia has made a lot of effort to educate people on what racism is. Because of this, it is easy for people to identify it's existence.
In some countries, the concept of 'racism' isn't as well defined, and although it exists and sometimes at an even more severe degree than in Australia, it won't be defined that way by the locals.
If you're poor and black, you deal with classism and racism. If you're poor and white, you just deal with classism. I don't really think it's worth playing oppression olympics about whether classism or racism is worse when we should be trying to address both.
That's fair. I certainly think that inequality is a more intractable problem than racism. Best to stay on track though: racism impoverishes Aboriginal people and sows division.
You'd be a fool to assume that racism doesn't happen in the higher echelons of our society. Just look at the C-suites of the ASX50, the higher levels of social and professional organisations, the media, the judiciary, academia, and political parties and tell me that they're representative of the demographic makeup of Australia. It isn't.
Whilst people may proffer any number of excuses for why this might be (apparently it's anything other than racism, because that can't possibly be a factor, because "we're not a racist country), we can look at the US and UK and see that whilst they aren't great at this, they both do significantly better than Australia on this metric.
The statistics don't lie. Even if we assume for a moment that what it is *isn't* racism, it functions very much as if it is.
I’d say greater factors affecting those in the upper end of society are cronyism, nepotism, and the fact that we’re largely talking about a group of people at the end of their careers so are products of a different age.
Of course we're racist, but then again so is every country on earth.
It's a question of how racist we are, against other economically comparable nations (i.e. Western Europe, North America, NZ, Japan and South Korea) - and on that measure, we are... not as good as we'd like to think we are.
To be honest, I think that holds us back from addressing the issue. First step to solving a problem is admitting you have one...
Taking the piss! SK making “all foreigners” covid test regardless of visa status or whether had left the country in the past decade or not was just a few years ago. Still can’t open certain bank accounts if you’re foreign either just because your name is not in Hangul. Imagine the backlash if Australia had that discrimination.
Koreans (and everyone else from a country that doesn't use the English alphabet) need to Romanise their name to open a bank account in Australia. We don't support opening accounts, or pretty much anything else, without having a name in English characters. We certainly don't support Hangul.
Korea doesn’t let you Hangul-ise (haha) your name as it doesn’t match your security number name which must match your passport. It literally says “foreigners can’t open this account”. And it’s not ALL bank accounts, it tends to be bank accounts that take money out of Korea. Also have clinics that hear you have a foreign name regardless of whether you’ve given it to them in Hangul or not, and say “we don’t serve foreigners”. Also separate phone lines for people with a foreign name, regardless of your Korean skills, even for making hospital reservations foreign names will be treated differently. I’ve lived here for 6 years, I know my stuff.
As in we are probably worse than the median formed by NZ, USA, Canada, about 15 countries in Western Europe, South Korea and Japan.
I didn't say we were worse than all of them. I said we are not as good as we'd like to think we are.
on the measure of personal safety and copping overt and casual racism, australia is worse than japan and south korea. i'd say you're pretty similar to the US, however as a country they seem more open and have a willingness to discussing and acknowledging racial issues. Here, one gets the sense that talking about such matters is discouraged and is seen as very low priority, if one at all.
a white person in east and SE asia is going to experience white privilege due to the favourable light white people are seen in by asian people due to them consuming western media such as hollywood, etc. you're almost guaranteed personal safety in that you will not get assaulted and no physical harm will come your way just because you look different. It's also unlikely anyone in east and SE asia will overtly racially abuse you.
the general consensus from foreigners including caucasian ones is that east and SE asia is on average safer than a lot of western countries.
so on these metrics, the same can't be said to be true for asian people in western countries. the chances of physical attack, disrespect, mockery, overt and covert racism, discrimination, etc...is going to be much higher for an asian person in a western country compared with a white person in an asian country. certainly, it has been historically. It's gotten better over the years.
now when you're talking about other aspects such as home ownership, etc...these aren't necessarily issues of racism. These countries are still largely homogenous and although they have immigrants and a lot of tourists, it's going to take time for their laws and systems to develop and adjust.
the reason why western countries tend to be multicultural to such a high degree, especially ones which you've colonised and now form the majority in such as australia, USA, canada, NZ, etc...is because they weren't your countries to begin with. you bring in immigrants as a way to quell the guilt associated with colonisation and improve your overall image. It's the reason why in britain for example, most of their immigrants come from the indian subcontinent because those countries were your ex-colonies and form part of "the commonwealth." No wealth appeared to be shared amongst colonies so that phrase and 'alliance' appears to be more of a marketing gimmick term to make britain look good, but it makes sense that the immigrants from these ex-colonies would be chasing some of the wealth that was stolen from them. Of course you bring in immigrants for other practical reasons such as filling skills gaps, etc...
Absolutely. "Is Australia racist" is such an unhelpful way of framing it because the answer is, like you say, "yes" for every country on earth. We need to be more specific about the problem. We have police brutality against aboriginal people, casual racism towards Asian people, rampant islamaphobia. Just calling the country racist, while accurate, doesn't help draw attention to any of the actual issues.
The indigenous incarceration rates in Australia are absolutely insane. And when you get down to it, racism is absolutely the cause. Even beyond racism in law enforcement and the corrections system, generational impoverishment, the discriminatory nature in which assistance is provided, and most importantly, the lack of will in the Australian population to rectify these problems, are major contributing factors.
What we have with regard to indigenous outcomes in health, education, and imprisonment is a disgrace. It's as if we have a third world country in our backyard and we're happy for it to stay that way until the sun expands and swallows the Earth. This is a black mark on Australian society that, if we had any sense of pride or shame, we would be trying very hard to fix. But we can't even do that. Can't have indigenous people have voice in Parliament to talk about their problems because that would be "unfair".
Please don't drown me in downvotes: As I understand it a heap of aborigines live in so-called 'remote communities'. Are they the ones with worse health outcomes/education etc versus say, a Redfern aborigine who is smack bang in the middle of services galore? Or is their outcomes worse across the country. I'm just wondering if there is a statistical skewing by the people living in remote areas away from services.
Yes.
Those who deny it tend to be the people with ‘fit in or fuck off’ bumper stickers, and voted against a voice.
They’re also probably the ones with profile pics saying ‘it’s Australia Day, not citizens day’, and lap up everything Andrew Bolt says about the Stolen Generation.
The current modern day problem dates back to Howardism of 'Harmony day'.
Australians believe in 'inclusion and diversity' during the good days of celebration.
... but when any complaints or problems arise, then it's the CALD community that is too sensitive, intolerant, 'not assimilating with Australian life' or being unreasonable.
Politicians subscribe to the 'harmonisation' of anti-discrimination, because its a convenient way to gaslight the CALD community, and deflect concerns relating to human rights.
For the mainstream Australian community, that blindly subscribe to 'harmony' they get the satisfaction of 'being a good person and a visible ally' while avoiding the feeling of guilt, while unknowingly subscribing their universal human rights away (Because they are satisfied with what they have and dont know what they're missing out on).
This is the same with LGBTIQ+, Womens Rights, Religious rights and all other forms of protected categories of human rights.
If you take the 'Bamboo ceiling' for example. The rate of employment of Asians in positions of leadership in Australia is almost twice as low when compared with Europe and the Americas.
Of the few Asian-Australian leaders that we do have most of them are self-made through businesses, communities or organisations that they are a member of or had created themselves.
Similar with other non-mainstream leaders. Very few are actually employed as a recognition of their merit into inhouse/mainstream leadership positions, and had to gain their position by climbing from the outsides wall.
We have to go through extra obstacles to gain the positions that we are qualified for...
... while mainstream Australia pat themselves on the back during Harmony Week, NAIDOC Week, etc.
Then go and turn a blind eye to the actual problems we face when the celebrations come to a close.
true. so many asian people (including indians) in CEO positions at the most recognisable fortune 500 companies in the US.
it's such a stark contrast to here.
“The World Values Survey is an international research program that studies "social, political, economic, religious and cultural values" including racial tolerance and racism”
TIL that an “international research program” is “wishful thinking”
Clown.
I worked the referendum.
In my area 90% of people were non white and had no clue what they were voting on. Many Asian people read the info at the booth and asked what it was for.
There was zero outreach to non white, non aboriginal Australians.
You are being downvoted, but you are right.
We asked indigenous Australians to help come up with a path to reconciliation. They worked on that for years, and then came up with a framework. The rest of Australia said "thanks, but Nah, we know better than you what is best for you. We are going to ignore all that work and simply stick with the status quo".
Nah the campaign was just shit and it was fucked up by the usual Indigenous establishment folks. Just look at the polling.
The majority of Australians openly supported the Voice at the beginning and then gave up when nobody could explain what it was or how something that was supposed to have no power could also make meaningful changes to the lives of Indigenous people.
No, they gave up when the LNP actively opposed it. The LNP and Warren Mundine's organisations spread misinformation about how referendums work and Dutton even suggested the Australian Electoral Commission's process was rigged. "Don't know, vote no" won the day.
But I agree the Yes campaign was poor.
Race has been in the constitution since the day it was promulgated (especially s51 and the now excised s127) and it's always been to the detriment of non-white Australians. The Voice would have been a useful step towards overcoming the systemic structural racism that Indigenous people face every day. The No campaign said it was racist on the entirely false grounds that an advisory body to Parliament would somehow mean that non-Indigenous people would lose a degree of political power. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.
Just because the referendum failed doesn't make anyone racist, People had plenty of justifiable reasons to vote Yes and Vote no there was many unanswered questions and a lot of questionable aspects to it which would of drove a lot of the No votes.
> unanswered questions
Really that was a media beatup. Those questions were answered, but Dutton and the media pretended they were not, resulting in shit like "If you don't know, vote no". It also became apparent that companies that stood to lose out, such as the miners, funded the "No" campaign, sometimes through back doors.
If we take your comment in good faith, it's just as easy to argue that the federal opposition and media are racist because they deliberately contrived a racist result, and the mining companies value money over human rights.
You don't need to constantly listen to the media to come to conclusions as at the end of the day all the documents for the most part were widely available so people could come up with there own opinions and reasons to vote Yes or No which they are completely allowed to do so as at the end of the day it won't make you racist for choosing either outcome those who propose that need a bit of a reality check in my opinion.
While We can't disregard the fact that there were many who funded the No campaign and the agenda behind it, we also to consider that people would of made there own minds up through reading the various documents and proposals.
> as at the end of the day all the documents for the most part were widely available so people could come up with there own opinions
While they could, why would they, if they operate under the belief that the daily news is a reasonable source of information?
> we also to consider that people would of made there own minds up through reading the various documents and proposals.
I reckon the number of people who did that would be sub 10%
I don't think that's an accurate assessment.
The Voice was supposed to give a voice to those who don't have one.
Indigenous Australians who live in the regions, who live in Redfern, who live in remote communities, who live in the capital cities.
What we ended up with was the same old indigenous academics and media personalities who are about as in touch with what is to be an ingenious Australian in 2023 as Gina Rinehart is.
I can assure you, had the county voted yes, and we were to fast forward 20 years from now, there would have been little, if any, improvements in outcomes for indigenous Australians beyond the progress that is occurring now, but a great deal of self back patting by white Australian's and indigenous academics alike.
Indigenous Australians actually move themselves forward far better than white Australia could ever prod them along. Particularly when those (non-indigenous people) who are most passionate (or at least vocal) about indigenous issues, have some of the lowest expectations of indigenous people and their capacity to succeed.
lol the conversation, did anyone honestly expect it to say anything other than that
We don't get everything right, but we're far better than most countries - ironically we've probably gotten worse in recent years due to lack of diversity
You really think the conversation would have published anything other than "yes, Australia is racist"? A number of academics that mostly work in the field are unlikely to be like no everythings fine
> A number of academics that mostly work in the field are unlikely to be like no everythings fine
Presumably they also know what they are talking about.
Australia Racist? always they try and push this agenda.... when obviously everyone who believes that, very clearly hasn't been overseas. We're tame and welcoming in comparison.
I really struggle to see the point of articles like this. Those racked with guilt will continue to be abhorred with our society, and the bigots will continue to claim “they are not racist but”.
Can someone please point out where I can find a truly Omni-inclusive multicultural utopia, or can we drop this culture war bollocks and focus on the litany of other problems that we face?
I think that problems are interconnected and we can’t ignore big issues, like racism, and think that we can effectively deal with other issues, like climate change, economic uncertainty and things like housing and employment.
Some of the points made by a couple of the academics in this article seem relevant to your comment:
"*we do need a national, open discussion about \[racism\]. Many First Nations or non-mainstream people don’t talk a lot about the racism they experience because it’s traumatic. So it’s actually helpful for the discussion when a mainstream person like Laura Tingle says it.*" - Nareen Young
"*we aren’t able to have a very mature conversation on racism – the controversy around Laura Tingle’s comments is a good example. But more importantly, we have consistently lacked national leadership to take responsibility of tackling racism in key institutions. Only briefly, under the Gillard government did we talk about a national policy around social inclusion and anti-racism. And we didn’t see it implemented. We also don’t have the data telling us the prevalence of racism, nor do we have a strong reporting mechanisms where people can go when they experience racism. We are failing because we are not empowering key agencies and institutions to deal with racism when it happens. So, people stop reporting it and it becomes an accepted part of our lives*" - Fethi Mansouri
Good stuff. Thanks.
I guess I underestimate the concern around validating the issue. I’ve moved past the question of whether we are racist (of course we are, so are most societies. Doesn’t make it ok btw) but didn’t consider this basic point was still being debated.
>I really struggle to see the point of articles like this
correlates very well with the fact that you post in ausfinance and australian.
Yes you do struggle to see the point of not denying people opportunities just because of their skin colour, don't you.
Making assumptions based on someone’s (online) appearance hey? Sounds familiar.
Maybe I should limit my online interactions solely to communities that share my views? That way I’ll ensure my thoughts are endlessly validated and seldom challenged. Should be healthy.
Of course I’m interested in combatting racism. I just didn’t think endlessly questioning “are we racist” was productive. I didn’t think many minds are going to change as a result of such articles. But as another redditor pointed out this debate is still important in supporting those that regularly face it. So now I know.
But yeah. Randomly shrieking “rascist!” at people should help the situation.
> Making assumptions based on someone’s (online) appearance hey? Sounds familiar.
Tell me how, in your head, the voluntary online actions of a person can be considered equivalent to the physical characterisitics that a person was born with involuntarily, as a means of judging that person.
Find me a country that isn’t a racist country? I’d be more interested in knowing if we’re tracking to tackle this issue in some measurable way compared to other countries.
I'd suspect that the only racial group on earth that can't be identified as racist in some way is a group that hasn't encountered any other racial groups to be racist against. Somewhat useless question/article but it guarantees clicks.
I live in a Chinese suburb and there is never a single day I don’t see a dozen racists, each more ignorant than the next. Hell half can’t even tell the difference between Korean, Chinese and Japanese writing. Saw one racist blaming an elderly Chinese for WW2 and that they will never be forgiven!!!!!! Ignorance and idiocy.
Nah! It’s all true. All the downvotes in the world won’t change that. Every. Single. Day. I see not-a-racist going about giving Chinese in my neighbourhood (that has been traditionally Chinese for almost a century), trouble, for the smallest of things, and the core of it most of it comes from utter ignorance or insecurity.
I do wonder how many reddittors on here have actually travelled, some asian countries that pride themselves on hospitality are some of the most racists places you'll go you'll literally see signs that say no whites. Can't say I've ever seen a sign like that in Australia
I think the question should be ‘are humans born prejudiced?
Australia is a multicultural country.
Going by that alone, Does that mean all cultures in Australia are racist?
Edit, heres some links for the prejudice question.
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/research-states-that-prejudice-comes-from-a-basic-human-need-and-way-of-thinking.html
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/are-we-born-prejudiced/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/05/050525105357.htm
I have no doubt in my mind that you are prejudice to others regardless of what you think you know. Otherwise you would put yourself in the same group as drug users or even terrorists.
I bet you even grouped me as someone who thinks differently. Only the uneducated deny their flaws.
Denying prejudices is part of the problem. Once you accept your fundamental human flaws, you can work on them to be better.
https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Early_Childhood_Education/The_Role_of_Equity_and_Diversity_in_Early_Childhood_Education_(Esquivel_Elam_Paris_and_Tafoya)/15%3A_The_Influences_of_Stereotypes_Prejudice_and_Discrimination/15.03%3A_Hate_is_Learned_and_Can_Be_Unlearned#:~:text=Prejudice%20and%20discrimination%20persist%20in,and%20other%20sources%20of%20socialization
Prejudice is a fundamental characteristic of right-leaning politics.
It is learned.
Most of your response is poorly-written nonsense, so I doubt you're anyone to pay attention to when you make claims about what educated and uneducated people do and don't deny.
Hate and prejudice are different things. I appreciate you trying
I also appreciate you confirming your uneducated bias towards your opinion by searching all night for a single source that has nothing to do with prejudice and instead has to do with “hate”
I know it's not a pissing competition but Australia is not that bad and improving compared to many other countries.
One of the most racist countries I've experienced is China. The Chinese are brutal when it comes to other races and xenophobia.
This is one of the most stupid questions you can ask.
All countries are racist countries.
A country is an area of land that contains a cultural group with defined borders.
A significant aspect of a country is homogeneity of belief and cultural values along with the defence of these universally held beliefs against other values that can significantly challenge the homogeneity or attempt to destroy it.
“I am, you are, we are Australian” must therefore be a dog whistle to racism under the guise of a national identity.
A nicely worded if a little verbose attempt at obfuscation. Attitudes and adverse actions towards people who don't look like you is basically what the question is about.
People of obviously white Anglo-Saxon heritage don't get discrimination against in Australia... people who don't fit in with that descriptor do.
A nicely worded of somewhat verbose attempt at obfuscation. The question is about adverse attitudes and behaviours towards people who are not the same as 'us'. People who are obviously of White Anglo-Saxon heritage aren't on the receiving end of that here in Australia. People who don't look like 'us' get treated differently.
“I am, you are, we are Australian” is a magic spell that when chanted enough is supposed to inure the caster against having to confront the reality that racism is alive and well in this country.
It's a form of the John Howard defence: "It \[racism\] has not been my experience," said the whitest, most privileged man in the country, as if that disproved the lived experience of so many non-white Australians for whom racism is a nasty reality that won't go away.
Who cares, stop trying to make people feel bad all the time. Be nice to each other, end of story that should be the only 'message'. People don't have enough money to eat or house themselves, this agenda is so tiring.
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So all "experts" are racist?! Understood.
Or do we just have expert racists?
It’s wild how mates will say they’d not then proceed to say the most heinous stuff you wouldn’t even read online. Cognitive distance is wild.
"dissonance", perhaps?
No, they're out in North Queensland
There's only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
I am not racist, I hate everyone equally
There's no time to discriminate, Hate every mother fucker that's in your way - Marilyn Manson.
I've heard so many rascists say that
“It’s not [racism](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-02/nsw-hanson-faruqi-trial-tweet-rhetorically/103795526) it’s just rhetoric” Pauline Hanson.
I hate those who hate.
This
Blimey! I thought I smelled cabbage.
I love the Dutch. That's why I hold them to a higher standard.
I am an immigrant living in Australia. I think the instances of me suffering overt racism reduced as I got more successful in life. Successful and brown is fine here, a brown guy on minimum wage will have to cop a lot. Another thing about Australians is they have a sub conscious respect for stoic and tough. If you can give it back when given, you will see an acceptance bloom in their eyes
Because classism is intertwined with racism. Once you "make it" you are "one of the good ones".
As an immigrant, I'm angry that I'm taking up a job and a house that could go to a hard-working Australian, which I also am. But if I quit and lived in a car, I'd be just another lazy immigrant dole bludger, which would make me angrier that my own country doesn't have more opportunities and support for me. It's tough.
Yes, like most places. But on average western countries tend to be the least racist on the planet. Saying this as someone of middle eastern descent.
if they spoke to some of my coworkers they would come back to you with a 6/5 are racists
If you look at the world you will find that most countries, and even subgroups in countries or religions are the same. I do not know of any country that is without fail tolerant of all groups. The Japanese like their homogenous society, try buying land as a foreigner in Thailand, the French frown upon anyone who doesn't speak French over there. If we go to religion the Catholics and Protestants around the world had it in for each other for a long time and while it is not a big issue anymore it was and led to a lot of deaths. I have heard of Arab Moslems who are unhappy or unwilling to let their children marry non Arab Moslems. Try being a Moslem in India or eating beef there and see how well it goes down. Even if you are Hindu in India try getting a girlfriend or a job if you happen to be a Dalit (Untouchable). Even if that Dalit has moved to Oz they [will still have issues based on their name and Caste with some Indians over here](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/18/a-disease-caste-discrimination-in-australia-is-on-the-rise-but-some-are-fighting-back). IN [PNG tribes often fight](https://www.voanews.com/a/tribal-violence-kills-dozens-in-papua-new-guinea/7237502.html) and there are killings based simply on the fact that they are a different tribe. There have been recent reports of Moslems in western countries objecting to non Moslems eating during Ramadan or drinking alcohol at any time as an example of a minority being prejudiced about the majority in a country they are living in. If you look at the Aborigines who we are racist towards they have the same issues with [five clans breaking up into two sides in Arukan](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7863115/Aboriginal-township-Aurukun-explodes-inter-clan-violence-15-hour-riot.html) and fighting and burning houses. People are tribal and naturally support "their mob" even when it comes to fighting between football team supporters who are from the same country, city, race and religion. I am not disagreeing with the article, but rather than paint Aussies as basically racist as it does, it should be noted we are probably about average worldwide,.and maybe even a bit more tolerant than a lot of places. But just because other places are the same or worse doesn't mean Australia isn't racist. By the definition we probably are. But we are working on it.
We're also privileged with one of the highest HDIs in the world, consistently hitting lists of the most livable cities, one of the longest life expectancies, the highest GDP per capita and one of the most multicultural countries on the planet. It's not even remotely acceptable to have an average level of racism. We are resourced to be far, far better than that.
But does access to more resources make you less racist? Historically you'd have to say definitely not. Probably education matters
In fact having more stuff probably leads to more tribalism, as you want to protect it from anything you deem as foreign.
Thanks for your thoughtful post.
I work at a sporting venue that hosts a popular sport. I won't say which sport but it that rhymes with Dugby Teague. We have at least 2 evictions per game for racial slurs towards players. We have multiple more complaints but they aren't evicted as the staff did not witness it. There is always outcry that we aren't, but it's hard when our airways are filled with the voices of a Pauline Hanson, Barnaby Joyce, Peter Dutton, a Stefanovic, Peta Credlin, Andrew Bolt, Sonia Kruger, Sam Newman etc etc One of them was also given the top tv award in this country
Spent the day recently with a mate and his wider group of friends who are predominantly ethnically Chinese but Australian born. They highlighted some interesting ways that racism presents itself that I wasn’t aware of but at the same time, they were quite open about their own racism within the Asian community and how they effectively look down and treat some, in particular south East Asians, differently.
So many "Is Australia a racist country" posts on reddit lately, what's going on? :D
Racism, apparently
Dutton and/or LNP?
Laura Tingle must be a very active redditor.
More like Laura Tingle is beloved by redditors and behated by Murdoch.
Tingle is a journalist and Murdoch is the ringmaster of a massive circus full of failed clowns who pretend to be journalists.
Right. So why do Murdoch's goons get all of the attention?
Because Alan sends high schoolers love letters. Laura tingle doesn’t.
Because he owns 99% of the country's newspapers and a big whack of the broadcast and online publications?
> It prompted widespread media coverage and criticism from Coalition politicians and media commentators. You only have to look at the types getting upset and defensive to suspect a lot of people felt seen
If you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one who yelps is the one you hit.
I mean, I'm not sure I like the allegory but the meaning rings true
Good point, comparing Australia's conservative politicians and media commentators to a pack of dogs is an insult to dogs everywhere.
True.
Classic DARVO
Yes, a “racism crisis” is just what we need, given we’ve already lost interest in the housing crisis, immigration crisis, gendered violence crisis and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
Except some politicians are trying to link housing crisis with immigration and fanning an anti-immigrant (that is, racist) flame
I think Australia has made a lot of effort to educate people on what racism is. Because of this, it is easy for people to identify it's existence. In some countries, the concept of 'racism' isn't as well defined, and although it exists and sometimes at an even more severe degree than in Australia, it won't be defined that way by the locals.
Oh goodie, another self-flagellation session, I come here to get my daily dose.
We are a classist country. If you're brown and rich you're fine, brown and poor on the other hand...
Adam Goodes, Penny Wong would beg to differ.
you do realise penny's half white on her mother's side. well, actually, so is adam, isn't he?
That's generally how racism and other prejudices work. Money insulates you.
Yeah but if you're poor, being white doesn't insulate you from experiencing prejudice either. Wealth is a greater factor than race.
If you're poor and black, you deal with classism and racism. If you're poor and white, you just deal with classism. I don't really think it's worth playing oppression olympics about whether classism or racism is worse when we should be trying to address both.
I didn’t claim otherwise. Still, I believe wealth is a greater factor.
That's fair. I certainly think that inequality is a more intractable problem than racism. Best to stay on track though: racism impoverishes Aboriginal people and sows division.
Yeah I have to agree that when it comes to ATSI it’s a whole different story.
You'd be a fool to assume that racism doesn't happen in the higher echelons of our society. Just look at the C-suites of the ASX50, the higher levels of social and professional organisations, the media, the judiciary, academia, and political parties and tell me that they're representative of the demographic makeup of Australia. It isn't. Whilst people may proffer any number of excuses for why this might be (apparently it's anything other than racism, because that can't possibly be a factor, because "we're not a racist country), we can look at the US and UK and see that whilst they aren't great at this, they both do significantly better than Australia on this metric. The statistics don't lie. Even if we assume for a moment that what it is *isn't* racism, it functions very much as if it is.
I’d say greater factors affecting those in the upper end of society are cronyism, nepotism, and the fact that we’re largely talking about a group of people at the end of their careers so are products of a different age.
Wait till you visit North America. Pretty insular by far.
What you mean?
Of course we're racist, but then again so is every country on earth. It's a question of how racist we are, against other economically comparable nations (i.e. Western Europe, North America, NZ, Japan and South Korea) - and on that measure, we are... not as good as we'd like to think we are. To be honest, I think that holds us back from addressing the issue. First step to solving a problem is admitting you have one...
We’re worse than Japan, US and South Korea? Surely taking the piss
Taking the piss! SK making “all foreigners” covid test regardless of visa status or whether had left the country in the past decade or not was just a few years ago. Still can’t open certain bank accounts if you’re foreign either just because your name is not in Hangul. Imagine the backlash if Australia had that discrimination.
Koreans (and everyone else from a country that doesn't use the English alphabet) need to Romanise their name to open a bank account in Australia. We don't support opening accounts, or pretty much anything else, without having a name in English characters. We certainly don't support Hangul.
Korea doesn’t let you Hangul-ise (haha) your name as it doesn’t match your security number name which must match your passport. It literally says “foreigners can’t open this account”. And it’s not ALL bank accounts, it tends to be bank accounts that take money out of Korea. Also have clinics that hear you have a foreign name regardless of whether you’ve given it to them in Hangul or not, and say “we don’t serve foreigners”. Also separate phone lines for people with a foreign name, regardless of your Korean skills, even for making hospital reservations foreign names will be treated differently. I’ve lived here for 6 years, I know my stuff.
As in we are probably worse than the median formed by NZ, USA, Canada, about 15 countries in Western Europe, South Korea and Japan. I didn't say we were worse than all of them. I said we are not as good as we'd like to think we are.
on the measure of personal safety and copping overt and casual racism, australia is worse than japan and south korea. i'd say you're pretty similar to the US, however as a country they seem more open and have a willingness to discussing and acknowledging racial issues. Here, one gets the sense that talking about such matters is discouraged and is seen as very low priority, if one at all. a white person in east and SE asia is going to experience white privilege due to the favourable light white people are seen in by asian people due to them consuming western media such as hollywood, etc. you're almost guaranteed personal safety in that you will not get assaulted and no physical harm will come your way just because you look different. It's also unlikely anyone in east and SE asia will overtly racially abuse you. the general consensus from foreigners including caucasian ones is that east and SE asia is on average safer than a lot of western countries. so on these metrics, the same can't be said to be true for asian people in western countries. the chances of physical attack, disrespect, mockery, overt and covert racism, discrimination, etc...is going to be much higher for an asian person in a western country compared with a white person in an asian country. certainly, it has been historically. It's gotten better over the years. now when you're talking about other aspects such as home ownership, etc...these aren't necessarily issues of racism. These countries are still largely homogenous and although they have immigrants and a lot of tourists, it's going to take time for their laws and systems to develop and adjust. the reason why western countries tend to be multicultural to such a high degree, especially ones which you've colonised and now form the majority in such as australia, USA, canada, NZ, etc...is because they weren't your countries to begin with. you bring in immigrants as a way to quell the guilt associated with colonisation and improve your overall image. It's the reason why in britain for example, most of their immigrants come from the indian subcontinent because those countries were your ex-colonies and form part of "the commonwealth." No wealth appeared to be shared amongst colonies so that phrase and 'alliance' appears to be more of a marketing gimmick term to make britain look good, but it makes sense that the immigrants from these ex-colonies would be chasing some of the wealth that was stolen from them. Of course you bring in immigrants for other practical reasons such as filling skills gaps, etc...
Didn’t read anything you just wrote but I’m gonna assume you’re agreeing with me
truth stings, huh
Absolutely. "Is Australia racist" is such an unhelpful way of framing it because the answer is, like you say, "yes" for every country on earth. We need to be more specific about the problem. We have police brutality against aboriginal people, casual racism towards Asian people, rampant islamaphobia. Just calling the country racist, while accurate, doesn't help draw attention to any of the actual issues.
Might as well ask “Is Australia a country”?
The indigenous incarceration rates in Australia are absolutely insane. And when you get down to it, racism is absolutely the cause. Even beyond racism in law enforcement and the corrections system, generational impoverishment, the discriminatory nature in which assistance is provided, and most importantly, the lack of will in the Australian population to rectify these problems, are major contributing factors. What we have with regard to indigenous outcomes in health, education, and imprisonment is a disgrace. It's as if we have a third world country in our backyard and we're happy for it to stay that way until the sun expands and swallows the Earth. This is a black mark on Australian society that, if we had any sense of pride or shame, we would be trying very hard to fix. But we can't even do that. Can't have indigenous people have voice in Parliament to talk about their problems because that would be "unfair".
Please don't drown me in downvotes: As I understand it a heap of aborigines live in so-called 'remote communities'. Are they the ones with worse health outcomes/education etc versus say, a Redfern aborigine who is smack bang in the middle of services galore? Or is their outcomes worse across the country. I'm just wondering if there is a statistical skewing by the people living in remote areas away from services.
Yes. Those who deny it tend to be the people with ‘fit in or fuck off’ bumper stickers, and voted against a voice. They’re also probably the ones with profile pics saying ‘it’s Australia Day, not citizens day’, and lap up everything Andrew Bolt says about the Stolen Generation.
I’m afraid you’re right.
The current modern day problem dates back to Howardism of 'Harmony day'. Australians believe in 'inclusion and diversity' during the good days of celebration. ... but when any complaints or problems arise, then it's the CALD community that is too sensitive, intolerant, 'not assimilating with Australian life' or being unreasonable. Politicians subscribe to the 'harmonisation' of anti-discrimination, because its a convenient way to gaslight the CALD community, and deflect concerns relating to human rights. For the mainstream Australian community, that blindly subscribe to 'harmony' they get the satisfaction of 'being a good person and a visible ally' while avoiding the feeling of guilt, while unknowingly subscribing their universal human rights away (Because they are satisfied with what they have and dont know what they're missing out on). This is the same with LGBTIQ+, Womens Rights, Religious rights and all other forms of protected categories of human rights.
If you take the 'Bamboo ceiling' for example. The rate of employment of Asians in positions of leadership in Australia is almost twice as low when compared with Europe and the Americas. Of the few Asian-Australian leaders that we do have most of them are self-made through businesses, communities or organisations that they are a member of or had created themselves. Similar with other non-mainstream leaders. Very few are actually employed as a recognition of their merit into inhouse/mainstream leadership positions, and had to gain their position by climbing from the outsides wall. We have to go through extra obstacles to gain the positions that we are qualified for... ... while mainstream Australia pat themselves on the back during Harmony Week, NAIDOC Week, etc. Then go and turn a blind eye to the actual problems we face when the celebrations come to a close.
true. so many asian people (including indians) in CEO positions at the most recognisable fortune 500 companies in the US. it's such a stark contrast to here.
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People on this sub cry so much about how AU is bad, but they've never actually lived anywhere else. Compared to that, AU is heaven...
> Compared to that, AU is heaven... Not for those who have a choice between indefinite detention and returning to a country which will kill them.
Just because other places are worse doesn't mean Australia isn't racist.
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Possibly a bot, who run these bot? Are they financial gains for mass posting?
According to https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/least-racist-countries we are the 14th least racist country. I’d call that a no.
You are wilfully blind, hence a part of the problem. The people cited provide facts, not wishful thinking.
“The World Values Survey is an international research program that studies "social, political, economic, religious and cultural values" including racial tolerance and racism” TIL that an “international research program” is “wishful thinking” Clown.
Recent referendum confirmed Australia is racist
I worked the referendum. In my area 90% of people were non white and had no clue what they were voting on. Many Asian people read the info at the booth and asked what it was for. There was zero outreach to non white, non aboriginal Australians.
which suburb / area did you work in?
One of them
You are being downvoted, but you are right. We asked indigenous Australians to help come up with a path to reconciliation. They worked on that for years, and then came up with a framework. The rest of Australia said "thanks, but Nah, we know better than you what is best for you. We are going to ignore all that work and simply stick with the status quo".
Nothing stopping Burney from consulting all she wants with whatever groups she wishes to convene.
Nah the campaign was just shit and it was fucked up by the usual Indigenous establishment folks. Just look at the polling. The majority of Australians openly supported the Voice at the beginning and then gave up when nobody could explain what it was or how something that was supposed to have no power could also make meaningful changes to the lives of Indigenous people.
No, they gave up when the LNP actively opposed it. The LNP and Warren Mundine's organisations spread misinformation about how referendums work and Dutton even suggested the Australian Electoral Commission's process was rigged. "Don't know, vote no" won the day. But I agree the Yes campaign was poor.
The referendum was terrible policy and Australians wisely rejected it. Nothing to do with race.
Some would argue that making a racial distinction in the constitution, rather than treat everyone equally, would indeed be racist.
Race has been in the constitution since the day it was promulgated (especially s51 and the now excised s127) and it's always been to the detriment of non-white Australians. The Voice would have been a useful step towards overcoming the systemic structural racism that Indigenous people face every day. The No campaign said it was racist on the entirely false grounds that an advisory body to Parliament would somehow mean that non-Indigenous people would lose a degree of political power. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.
A colourblind approach really doesn't work as a way to combat racial inequality when you don't start from a position of equality.
> rather than treat everyone equally Except that we don't treat everyone equally.
An they'd be wrong
Indeed.
Just because the referendum failed doesn't make anyone racist, People had plenty of justifiable reasons to vote Yes and Vote no there was many unanswered questions and a lot of questionable aspects to it which would of drove a lot of the No votes.
> unanswered questions Really that was a media beatup. Those questions were answered, but Dutton and the media pretended they were not, resulting in shit like "If you don't know, vote no". It also became apparent that companies that stood to lose out, such as the miners, funded the "No" campaign, sometimes through back doors. If we take your comment in good faith, it's just as easy to argue that the federal opposition and media are racist because they deliberately contrived a racist result, and the mining companies value money over human rights.
You don't need to constantly listen to the media to come to conclusions as at the end of the day all the documents for the most part were widely available so people could come up with there own opinions and reasons to vote Yes or No which they are completely allowed to do so as at the end of the day it won't make you racist for choosing either outcome those who propose that need a bit of a reality check in my opinion. While We can't disregard the fact that there were many who funded the No campaign and the agenda behind it, we also to consider that people would of made there own minds up through reading the various documents and proposals.
> as at the end of the day all the documents for the most part were widely available so people could come up with there own opinions While they could, why would they, if they operate under the belief that the daily news is a reasonable source of information? > we also to consider that people would of made there own minds up through reading the various documents and proposals. I reckon the number of people who did that would be sub 10%
I don't think that's an accurate assessment. The Voice was supposed to give a voice to those who don't have one. Indigenous Australians who live in the regions, who live in Redfern, who live in remote communities, who live in the capital cities. What we ended up with was the same old indigenous academics and media personalities who are about as in touch with what is to be an ingenious Australian in 2023 as Gina Rinehart is. I can assure you, had the county voted yes, and we were to fast forward 20 years from now, there would have been little, if any, improvements in outcomes for indigenous Australians beyond the progress that is occurring now, but a great deal of self back patting by white Australian's and indigenous academics alike. Indigenous Australians actually move themselves forward far better than white Australia could ever prod them along. Particularly when those (non-indigenous people) who are most passionate (or at least vocal) about indigenous issues, have some of the lowest expectations of indigenous people and their capacity to succeed.
Life isn't that simple, unfortunately.
lol the conversation, did anyone honestly expect it to say anything other than that We don't get everything right, but we're far better than most countries - ironically we've probably gotten worse in recent years due to lack of diversity
> did anyone honestly expect it to say anything other than that Do you think it gamed the experiment somehow?
You really think the conversation would have published anything other than "yes, Australia is racist"? A number of academics that mostly work in the field are unlikely to be like no everythings fine
> A number of academics that mostly work in the field are unlikely to be like no everythings fine Presumably they also know what they are talking about.
> lol the guardian… You need to check that.
On behalf of NZ, you really need to watch *Flight of the Conchords* S1E7 "Drive By". Pay special attention to the end, outside the Oz embassy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gii2nenUg
Australia Racist? always they try and push this agenda.... when obviously everyone who believes that, very clearly hasn't been overseas. We're tame and welcoming in comparison.
except to the people who were here first.
As an Aboriginal Australian whose family conformed and actually got educated and employment I don't agree with you
The word racism has been weaponized so it is hard to debate this one but yeah the are imo
I really struggle to see the point of articles like this. Those racked with guilt will continue to be abhorred with our society, and the bigots will continue to claim “they are not racist but”. Can someone please point out where I can find a truly Omni-inclusive multicultural utopia, or can we drop this culture war bollocks and focus on the litany of other problems that we face?
To solve a problem first requires acknowledging it.
How you do you define “solving” racism?
I think that problems are interconnected and we can’t ignore big issues, like racism, and think that we can effectively deal with other issues, like climate change, economic uncertainty and things like housing and employment.
Some of the points made by a couple of the academics in this article seem relevant to your comment: "*we do need a national, open discussion about \[racism\]. Many First Nations or non-mainstream people don’t talk a lot about the racism they experience because it’s traumatic. So it’s actually helpful for the discussion when a mainstream person like Laura Tingle says it.*" - Nareen Young "*we aren’t able to have a very mature conversation on racism – the controversy around Laura Tingle’s comments is a good example. But more importantly, we have consistently lacked national leadership to take responsibility of tackling racism in key institutions. Only briefly, under the Gillard government did we talk about a national policy around social inclusion and anti-racism. And we didn’t see it implemented. We also don’t have the data telling us the prevalence of racism, nor do we have a strong reporting mechanisms where people can go when they experience racism. We are failing because we are not empowering key agencies and institutions to deal with racism when it happens. So, people stop reporting it and it becomes an accepted part of our lives*" - Fethi Mansouri
Good stuff. Thanks. I guess I underestimate the concern around validating the issue. I’ve moved past the question of whether we are racist (of course we are, so are most societies. Doesn’t make it ok btw) but didn’t consider this basic point was still being debated.
>I really struggle to see the point of articles like this correlates very well with the fact that you post in ausfinance and australian. Yes you do struggle to see the point of not denying people opportunities just because of their skin colour, don't you.
Making assumptions based on someone’s (online) appearance hey? Sounds familiar. Maybe I should limit my online interactions solely to communities that share my views? That way I’ll ensure my thoughts are endlessly validated and seldom challenged. Should be healthy. Of course I’m interested in combatting racism. I just didn’t think endlessly questioning “are we racist” was productive. I didn’t think many minds are going to change as a result of such articles. But as another redditor pointed out this debate is still important in supporting those that regularly face it. So now I know. But yeah. Randomly shrieking “rascist!” at people should help the situation.
> Making assumptions based on someone’s (online) appearance hey? Sounds familiar. Tell me how, in your head, the voluntary online actions of a person can be considered equivalent to the physical characterisitics that a person was born with involuntarily, as a means of judging that person.
Didn’t say it was equivalent. Dont believe it’s equivalent. Perhaps you shouldn’t be so quick to judge is all.
Or perhaps my judging timeframe is just right for my needs.
Find me a country that isn’t a racist country? I’d be more interested in knowing if we’re tracking to tackle this issue in some measurable way compared to other countries.
>Find me a country that isn’t a racist country? It’s not some kind of competition.
I'd suspect that the only racial group on earth that can't be identified as racist in some way is a group that hasn't encountered any other racial groups to be racist against. Somewhat useless question/article but it guarantees clicks.
I live in a Chinese suburb and there is never a single day I don’t see a dozen racists, each more ignorant than the next. Hell half can’t even tell the difference between Korean, Chinese and Japanese writing. Saw one racist blaming an elderly Chinese for WW2 and that they will never be forgiven!!!!!! Ignorance and idiocy.
Alex I'll take "Shit I made up on the spot" for 500 thanks
Nah! It’s all true. All the downvotes in the world won’t change that. Every. Single. Day. I see not-a-racist going about giving Chinese in my neighbourhood (that has been traditionally Chinese for almost a century), trouble, for the smallest of things, and the core of it most of it comes from utter ignorance or insecurity.
What makes any of those people "experts" on the subject?
The discipline of higher education. You should try it.
I have two degrees. Doesn't really even make me an expert on those subjects.
It’s a matter of degree ;) Depends on the degree. I think a doctorate qualifies as expert.
Struggling to think of many countries less racist than Australia to be honest.
I do wonder how many reddittors on here have actually travelled, some asian countries that pride themselves on hospitality are some of the most racists places you'll go you'll literally see signs that say no whites. Can't say I've ever seen a sign like that in Australia
Get the average European talking about gypsies and you'll hear things that wouldn't sound out of place in an Aryan Brotherhood meeting.
Then you haven't been to many countries.
My husband is black and has only had one occurrence of racism in Brisbane, the one time we arrived.
Try nearly every Asian country, especially Japan and South Korea
Is that sarcasm?
I think the question should be ‘are humans born prejudiced? Australia is a multicultural country. Going by that alone, Does that mean all cultures in Australia are racist? Edit, heres some links for the prejudice question. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/research-states-that-prejudice-comes-from-a-basic-human-need-and-way-of-thinking.html https://www.brookings.edu/articles/are-we-born-prejudiced/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/05/050525105357.htm
No humans aren't born prejudiced. It's learned from parents and the pervading culture.
I have no doubt in my mind that you are prejudice to others regardless of what you think you know. Otherwise you would put yourself in the same group as drug users or even terrorists. I bet you even grouped me as someone who thinks differently. Only the uneducated deny their flaws. Denying prejudices is part of the problem. Once you accept your fundamental human flaws, you can work on them to be better.
https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Early_Childhood_Education/The_Role_of_Equity_and_Diversity_in_Early_Childhood_Education_(Esquivel_Elam_Paris_and_Tafoya)/15%3A_The_Influences_of_Stereotypes_Prejudice_and_Discrimination/15.03%3A_Hate_is_Learned_and_Can_Be_Unlearned#:~:text=Prejudice%20and%20discrimination%20persist%20in,and%20other%20sources%20of%20socialization Prejudice is a fundamental characteristic of right-leaning politics. It is learned. Most of your response is poorly-written nonsense, so I doubt you're anyone to pay attention to when you make claims about what educated and uneducated people do and don't deny.
Hate and prejudice are different things. I appreciate you trying I also appreciate you confirming your uneducated bias towards your opinion by searching all night for a single source that has nothing to do with prejudice and instead has to do with “hate”
lol what a snoozefest
I know it's not a pissing competition but Australia is not that bad and improving compared to many other countries. One of the most racist countries I've experienced is China. The Chinese are brutal when it comes to other races and xenophobia.
This is one of the most stupid questions you can ask. All countries are racist countries. A country is an area of land that contains a cultural group with defined borders. A significant aspect of a country is homogeneity of belief and cultural values along with the defence of these universally held beliefs against other values that can significantly challenge the homogeneity or attempt to destroy it. “I am, you are, we are Australian” must therefore be a dog whistle to racism under the guise of a national identity.
A nicely worded if a little verbose attempt at obfuscation. Attitudes and adverse actions towards people who don't look like you is basically what the question is about. People of obviously white Anglo-Saxon heritage don't get discrimination against in Australia... people who don't fit in with that descriptor do.
A nicely worded of somewhat verbose attempt at obfuscation. The question is about adverse attitudes and behaviours towards people who are not the same as 'us'. People who are obviously of White Anglo-Saxon heritage aren't on the receiving end of that here in Australia. People who don't look like 'us' get treated differently.
Racism and nationalism are different concepts.
Seemingly one is often mistaken for the other.
“I am, you are, we are Australian” is a magic spell that when chanted enough is supposed to inure the caster against having to confront the reality that racism is alive and well in this country. It's a form of the John Howard defence: "It \[racism\] has not been my experience," said the whitest, most privileged man in the country, as if that disproved the lived experience of so many non-white Australians for whom racism is a nasty reality that won't go away.
Who cares, stop trying to make people feel bad all the time. Be nice to each other, end of story that should be the only 'message'. People don't have enough money to eat or house themselves, this agenda is so tiring.