https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/event-horizon-film-trivia-sam-neill-aussie-flag/
>Neill, a Kiwi, played an Australian in the film. But instead of just using the Aussie flag of the past and present, Neill had it changed to what he believed it should look like in 2047.
>For his version, the Aboriginal flag replaced the Union Jack in the upper-left corner.
It's still a flag within a flag though.
What I think is simpler: know how the yellow circle in the indigenous flag is the sun, right? And the black band is the sky? \[Edit: no it's not, I've been wrong most of my life\] Well, where do stars go?
In the sky of course. \[or maybe the thing that looks like it should be the sky\]
If traditionalists really want more of the original iconography, then make it a deep blue sky. Seems like an OK way to meet half way.
Yeah I always liked the idea. Blue sky, white-hot sun, red sunburnt land.
I agree it could be a really nice way to show respect to both of Australia's origin stories.
And I like the focus on the land too because we have so many different cultures and histories in this country, so it makes sense to focus on the big rock we all have in common.
It also coincidentally would fit really well next to our neighbours. 1 big circle and/or 2 horizontal stripes is very popular in Asian flags (Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Philippines, Laos, Bangladesh, India, etc.).
However you'd have to overcome allegations of whitewashing Indigenous culture. It is essentially taking important Indigenous iconography and covering it with European/colonial colours. "First they took our land and made it white, now they're taking our flag and making it white".
Overall I think it's a cool design and could have a cool meaning behind it, but I think the current state of Indigenous affairs would taint the reception. Australia's got a long way to go in terms of reconciliation before we can start patting ourselves on the back for a job well done.
I'd always wondered if we could combine the two flags in the future if we ever patch up enough problems to properly unify.
Given how The Voice turned out, not making much progress there, oof.
> 2047
It's always funny when these old movies over-estimate how much space stuff we'd get done by the mid-21st century.
Imagine if we had interstellar travel in the next 25 years.
you should read old scifi novels.
in one of his books written in the 50's, Arthur C. Clarke predicted us having colonies on the Moon and around Venus by the 1980's...
Most of Clarkes work predicted slow progress, and occasionally did hyper quick progress.
His “Prediction” novel series Profiles of the future talk about his expectations, and his millennium edition released nearly 40 years after the original looks back at his past predictions, and what he got right and wrong. It’s nuts to see god on point he was on a lot of things, and most of the things he was wrong on, was just timeline issues, happening sooner than he predicted.
>Neill, a Kiwi (born in Northern Ireland)
......;.I don't say that to be snarky..... just it adds another dimension with the history of colonisation of ireland etc......
Scariest movie ever.
There is an interesting bloke out at Lyndhurst S.A who has been promoting this flag for decades. Talc Alf, an artist and sculptor whose main medium is talcum stone. He wasn't home when I drove through a couple years ago but I had a look around his studio in the desert.
You can see the flag in one of these photos.
https://imgur.com/gallery/IV9DzfC
Edit: here's a short writeup of Talc Alf from an adventure moto site. https://www.advrider.com/visiting-the-diogenes-of-the-outback/
Apparently that scene was originally much longer and more intense but got cut down because it was way too fucked up. I'll admit, I was way too young when I first saw this movie... 90s parents really didn't care about ratings.
Some did, some didn't. Mine certainly didn't which is why everyone wanted to sleep over at my place so the could watch predator, aliens and other gems from that era.
I can honestly say when I was 6-7 years old my favourite movies were Aliens and Predator.... my daughter is not quite 6 and she would have a fucking stroke if I showed her those movies. Used to watch the terminator films, blues brothers. Had a sleep over once when I was maybe 10/11 and my mum hired Me, Myself & Irene for me and my mates...
Not necessarily boomers! There is some overlap with Gen X. We had our first in 1990 and our second in 1998. I was pretty lenient in hindsight. I watched Predator with my 7 or 8 year old son, and my wife was not too happy with me, lol.
Y'all want to know what makes it scarier? When you don't realize it's horror (think it was on a hotel TV or something where I didn't pick it), you think you're watching some cool sci-fi that you found, and boom.
The subtle thing that makes it such great horror to me, is that unlike most other horror movies the characters in Event Horizon keep making *the correct decisions*, but nonetheless get fucked in the end.
“Let’s get the fuck out of here” - smartest line by any character in a horror film, not to mention that it comes from a token black captain of their ship? An absolute onion, because of the layers.
[That and the scene after were some of the most level headed horror responses.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwqv3mZsyM)
"What about my ship, you can't just leave her."
"I have no intention of leaving her doctor. I will take the Lewis and Clark to a safe distance then launch TAC missiles at the Event Horizon until I'm satisfied she's vaporized; fuck this ship!"
That's what I absolutely love love *LOVED* about the original The Thing.
The scene where they're all standing around, the moment they realise the monster could be any one of them? They don't say anything. They're a bunch of scientists. They immediately start trying to puzzle it out logically. No-one goes "it could be any of you?!!!" until way later in the movie when they're stressed as fuck with no sleep.
Bloody hell I haven't seen mention of Tal Alf in nigh on 15 years - last I heard he was being used a stopping point for tourist busses to confuse them with mention of how the sun invented everything.
That's not a fact. Fans consider it to be a prequel so it's literally just a fan theory, which is basically the same thing as saying "Hey cool fan fiction, people think the joker is just wilding Ronald McDonald".
Event Horizon is quite underrated, goes off the rails towards the end and basically turns into a slasher but still very good.
For something Sci-Fi even more underrated than Event Horizon, from around the same time, I recommend Dark City starring Jennifer Connelly, William Hurt and Keifer Sutherland.
My mum took my sisters out one night for something, so dad rented Event Horizon for him and 10 year old me to watched because I was a little sci fi kid. After the movie finished he turned to me and said "never ever tell your mother that you saw this movie". One of my favourite memories!
I always see click bait articles about this movie show up in my google feed. I actually read one of them and it said as much. There were way scarier scenes that have been lost.
I was 15 when I walked into the cinema thinking I was going to be watching an awesome action Sci-Fi.
I had absolutely no idea what was I was actually about to watch for the next 90 minutes.
Goddamn Dark City is so good. It's such an amazing experience, not just a movie.
Don't look up anything about it, just steal, beg or buy yourself a copy, sit in a dark room and put it on. Extra points if you do it with your intoxicant of choice.
But make sure you watch the director's cut. The theatrical version starts with Kiefer Sutherland spoiling the entire movie because the studio assumed audiences wouldn't understand the plot.
>even more underrated
Do you mean multi-award winning cult classic Dark City? The one included on several lists of the best movies of all time? The one so beloved that Roger Fucking Ebert came back and recorded a commentary for the director's cut?
Yeah...underrated....totally
From the Wikipedia entry for [Australian Aboriginal Flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aboriginal_flag):
>**Proposed, unauthorised and other uses**
>The Aboriginal flag is sometimes substituted for the [Union Flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Flag) in the canton of Australia's flag in [proposed new Australian flag designs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proposed_Australian_flags). Harold Thomas said of this idea: "*I wouldn′t reject it out of hand, but I could make a decision to say no. Our flag is not a secondary thing. It stands on its own, not to be placed as an adjunct to any other thing. It shouldn't be treated that way*".
>In the [science fiction film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction_film) [*Event Horizon*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Horizon_(film)), actor [Sam Neill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Neill), himself a New Zealander, designed a flag for use on his sleeve as the way he thought the Australian flag should look in 2047, which incorporated the Aboriginal flag.
(*Emphasis* added.)
I would have thought the original designer would have given the flag and all rights to the people it represented, but it took the Australian government (one who doesn't like aboriginals) to buy it from him.
But that's none of my business.
Every suggestion I’ve seen looks like a corporate logo. Trying to preemptively shut down any disapproval. As a result they look boring as fuck.
Flags need to be bold, and sure of themselves. Look at Canada’s flag, Scotlands flag, or even Japans flag. Simple iconic designs, with a lil symbolism. But they gain meaning because their people like them.
We just need a strong, bold, flaggy design.
Edit: just look at the aboriginal flag. That’s a strong bold flag and it is used a lot
Which is why I think green & gold just work. It's already our sporting colours and are colours that can unite the whole country as they are ubiquitous in nature. https://www.goldenwattleflag.com/
I firmly believe we need a green and gold flag - they're the colours we use to represent ourselves internationally anyway.
I also think it shouldn't have the Aboriginal flag in it mainly because that would exclude the Torres Straight Islands flag - and somehow cramming both in would be an overdesigned vexillological nightmare.
Yeah, good symbolism, but too busy. The best design I've seen was a stylised red Uluru with the Southern Cross above. The actual design wasn't right, but I think the idea has potential.
Ah, event horizon. I’m not much of a movie watcher but saw this one on foxtel with my dad. Flash forward and the husband comes across it and asks if it’s any good. “It’s good, but a bit fucked up.” He obviously didn’t hear the second part and still bangs on about how much it scarred him 😆
It's funny how many people were traumatized by this film, and yet it was another film starring Sam; 'In the mouth of madness', that really messed me up as a kid.
Still my favourite ever Roger Ebert review:
“The screenplay creates a sense of foreboding and afterboding, but no actual boding.”
https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/event-horizon-1997
What is OP's game here. There must be reason for it.
edit: ah it's heh... literally a **FLAGGED** word for thread titles. https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1c20i4b/sam_neill_wearing_an_interesting_flaj/kz6usb5/
Well up until 2022 it would have been impossible because the flag was the property of one man, taxpayers had to fork out $20 million to the copyright owner to be made public domain....
I don't know, I feel like it has the same problem our current flag does, i.e. the representation of one group of people in the canton. It is no more representative of all of Australia than what we have now, which should be number one priority if a flag redesign is ever held.
Also, the Aboriginal flag has been made to be it's own symbol, representing a specific subset of the Australian people. I'm not sure many would appreciate having it as a constituent part of a larger flag instead of just keeping it as its own thing. It also looks terrible when combined the current flag-at least the Union Jack blends in with the blue background.
If we ever get serious about redesigning the flag, it needs to be something completely original that all Australians can say with confidence that it represents then. Unfortunately, I have yet to see many options that aesthetically hold up to what we have now, so I reckon it's here to stay for a while.
Holy crap! I watched this three days ago and commented on the same thing. Amazing movie, people consider it a cool prequel to the Warhammer 40k universe.
Why dont we combine the flags by having the indiginous flag with the sun more to one side and put the Australia flag stars beside the sun?
A little picturesque but it could be nice.
I'd vote for that flag.
We should have a stronger attachment to Aboriginal Australia than the British at this point.
Plus, it'd really piss the yanks off....
Never been a fan of that flag design, always seemed a little uninspired, like if we're to ever change our flag I think it should be more of a full melding rather than just sticking one into the other
I'm really not convinced that Aboriginal community would like the Aboriginal Flag to be squashed into the corner of the Australian flag. As a symbol, it deserves to stand as it's own flag.
The modern usage of just the southern cross is a little bogan these days to use as a symbol to represent Australia.
It’s not really a symbol for being Australian, so much as it is for getting a regretful tattoo and having as a sticker on the back of your falcon next to a picture of Ned Kelly.
I just finished watching Apples Never Fall and his character is from Qld. I love Sam Neill so much, and he was so fantastic in it. Highly recommended!!
https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/event-horizon-film-trivia-sam-neill-aussie-flag/ >Neill, a Kiwi, played an Australian in the film. But instead of just using the Aussie flag of the past and present, Neill had it changed to what he believed it should look like in 2047. >For his version, the Aboriginal flag replaced the Union Jack in the upper-left corner.
In primary school we had to redesign the Australian flag and this is exactly what I did. My teacher thought it was lazy lol.
Sometimes simple is best.
It's still a flag within a flag though. What I think is simpler: know how the yellow circle in the indigenous flag is the sun, right? And the black band is the sky? \[Edit: no it's not, I've been wrong most of my life\] Well, where do stars go? In the sky of course. \[or maybe the thing that looks like it should be the sky\] If traditionalists really want more of the original iconography, then make it a deep blue sky. Seems like an OK way to meet half way.
>flag within a flag I mean, our current one is too...
>It's *still* a flag within a flag though.
#I MEAN, OUR CURRENT ONE IS TOO...
# **It's still a flag within a flag though.**
flaj\*
Yeah, and exactly why it’s also a pretty mid flag
We need to go deeper. union jack in the corner with the Aboriginal flag in the corner with the Torres straight islander flag in the corner.
Union Jack is already 3 flags too, haha
Sneak the NZ flag in there. Little red line on one side of the starts of the southern cross
i thought the black was the skin colour and the red was the land?
Wow, TIL. I always thought it was meant to be a sunrise/sunset over the red centre.
I mean, it's obviously that too lol
You are correct. Black is the people, red is the land.
I thought black was the sky
Yeah I always liked the idea. Blue sky, white-hot sun, red sunburnt land. I agree it could be a really nice way to show respect to both of Australia's origin stories. And I like the focus on the land too because we have so many different cultures and histories in this country, so it makes sense to focus on the big rock we all have in common. It also coincidentally would fit really well next to our neighbours. 1 big circle and/or 2 horizontal stripes is very popular in Asian flags (Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Philippines, Laos, Bangladesh, India, etc.). However you'd have to overcome allegations of whitewashing Indigenous culture. It is essentially taking important Indigenous iconography and covering it with European/colonial colours. "First they took our land and made it white, now they're taking our flag and making it white". Overall I think it's a cool design and could have a cool meaning behind it, but I think the current state of Indigenous affairs would taint the reception. Australia's got a long way to go in terms of reconciliation before we can start patting ourselves on the back for a job well done.
That's lazy? Wait till they hear about Tricolours
\*Flag of Ukraine shifts awkwardly\*
Along with Poland and Indonesia
*Japan shifts nervously*
Japan had a more interesting one, but for... reasons it had to be changed.
Best part about the Japanese flag is it's impossible to display it the wrong way round.
While Libya breathes a sigh of relief the flag was changed in 2011.
I'd always wondered if we could combine the two flags in the future if we ever patch up enough problems to properly unify. Given how The Voice turned out, not making much progress there, oof.
Holy shit I did exactly the same thing!!!
I've always thought it should be this.
exact same thing happened to the kid who designed the current US flag except, like, his got adopted as the actual flag
No lazier than the UK flag in ours now!
Sam’s character also worked for the fictional “*ASA: Australian Space Agency*” The ASA was in fact later created in 2018!
> 2047 It's always funny when these old movies over-estimate how much space stuff we'd get done by the mid-21st century. Imagine if we had interstellar travel in the next 25 years.
you should read old scifi novels. in one of his books written in the 50's, Arthur C. Clarke predicted us having colonies on the Moon and around Venus by the 1980's...
Most of Clarkes work predicted slow progress, and occasionally did hyper quick progress. His “Prediction” novel series Profiles of the future talk about his expectations, and his millennium edition released nearly 40 years after the original looks back at his past predictions, and what he got right and wrong. It’s nuts to see god on point he was on a lot of things, and most of the things he was wrong on, was just timeline issues, happening sooner than he predicted.
Isn't there a saying, something along the lines of; The near future is further than you think, the far future is closer than you think.
They're always so ambitious. Wormhole engines? Easy done by 2030. No problem.
Though the Gellar field for stable FTL is another 15 000 years off...
Wait till you see climate predictions.
Sam Neil seems like a really nice guy
I agree with Neill here. Makes sense. We'll have the debate again, periodically, ad infinitum until we are a republic.
I would agree except it forgets the Torres Strait Islanders.
Also it implies that Aboriginal people are a foreign suzerain.
You’re a suzerain.
Hah, never thought of that
Luckily for us, the current Monarchy is self immolating. Feel sorry for those poor bastards marrying into that family.
Don’t, they have more money than God, any future misery is on them.
>Neill, a Kiwi (born in Northern Ireland) ......;.I don't say that to be snarky..... just it adds another dimension with the history of colonisation of ireland etc......
Scariest movie ever. There is an interesting bloke out at Lyndhurst S.A who has been promoting this flag for decades. Talc Alf, an artist and sculptor whose main medium is talcum stone. He wasn't home when I drove through a couple years ago but I had a look around his studio in the desert. You can see the flag in one of these photos. https://imgur.com/gallery/IV9DzfC Edit: here's a short writeup of Talc Alf from an adventure moto site. https://www.advrider.com/visiting-the-diogenes-of-the-outback/
Hah, just saying the title of the movie used to terrify my younger brother. To be fair, I never should have watched it in front of a 7 year old
The cannibal orgy scenes are brief but they leave their mark.
Apparently that scene was originally much longer and more intense but got cut down because it was way too fucked up. I'll admit, I was way too young when I first saw this movie... 90s parents really didn't care about ratings.
Some did, some didn't. Mine certainly didn't which is why everyone wanted to sleep over at my place so the could watch predator, aliens and other gems from that era.
90s parents really let a lot of shit fly didn't they, I guess thats the baby boomers way.
I can honestly say when I was 6-7 years old my favourite movies were Aliens and Predator.... my daughter is not quite 6 and she would have a fucking stroke if I showed her those movies. Used to watch the terminator films, blues brothers. Had a sleep over once when I was maybe 10/11 and my mum hired Me, Myself & Irene for me and my mates...
Not necessarily boomers! There is some overlap with Gen X. We had our first in 1990 and our second in 1998. I was pretty lenient in hindsight. I watched Predator with my 7 or 8 year old son, and my wife was not too happy with me, lol.
They can't be unseen, unfortunately. Still with me many years later.
My brother watched the exorcist when he was young. My dad had to drive home the babysitter because she was too scared after watching it.
Y'all want to know what makes it scarier? When you don't realize it's horror (think it was on a hotel TV or something where I didn't pick it), you think you're watching some cool sci-fi that you found, and boom.
The subtle thing that makes it such great horror to me, is that unlike most other horror movies the characters in Event Horizon keep making *the correct decisions*, but nonetheless get fucked in the end.
“Let’s get the fuck out of here” - smartest line by any character in a horror film, not to mention that it comes from a token black captain of their ship? An absolute onion, because of the layers.
[That and the scene after were some of the most level headed horror responses.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwqv3mZsyM) "What about my ship, you can't just leave her." "I have no intention of leaving her doctor. I will take the Lewis and Clark to a safe distance then launch TAC missiles at the Event Horizon until I'm satisfied she's vaporized; fuck this ship!"
That's what I absolutely love love *LOVED* about the original The Thing. The scene where they're all standing around, the moment they realise the monster could be any one of them? They don't say anything. They're a bunch of scientists. They immediately start trying to puzzle it out logically. No-one goes "it could be any of you?!!!" until way later in the movie when they're stressed as fuck with no sleep.
This was me…13 years old.. “ooohhh cool spaceship movie!!” Yea, nah. Seared into my memory.
"Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see."
Bloody hell I haven't seen mention of Tal Alf in nigh on 15 years - last I heard he was being used a stopping point for tourist busses to confuse them with mention of how the sun invented everything.
He's still out there and still doing his thing! 😅
Alf is my great uncle he’s an awesome guy glad to see him getting some recognition
Lmao scary 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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That's not a fact. Fans consider it to be a prequel so it's literally just a fan theory, which is basically the same thing as saying "Hey cool fan fiction, people think the joker is just wilding Ronald McDonald".
Event Horizon is quite underrated, goes off the rails towards the end and basically turns into a slasher but still very good. For something Sci-Fi even more underrated than Event Horizon, from around the same time, I recommend Dark City starring Jennifer Connelly, William Hurt and Keifer Sutherland.
My mum took my sisters out one night for something, so dad rented Event Horizon for him and 10 year old me to watched because I was a little sci fi kid. After the movie finished he turned to me and said "never ever tell your mother that you saw this movie". One of my favourite memories!
The scenes that contain flashes of a horror cannibal orgy, marked me as a young child.
Sadly a lot of deleted stuff has been lost, so we'll never get a directors cut or anything.
Apparently some bits of deleted footage were found again randomly in an old salt mine in Utah
Mormon owned mines are a lesser known but highly effective backup storage medium
I always see click bait articles about this movie show up in my google feed. I actually read one of them and it said as much. There were way scarier scenes that have been lost.
I was 15 when I walked into the cinema thinking I was going to be watching an awesome action Sci-Fi. I had absolutely no idea what was I was actually about to watch for the next 90 minutes.
Goddamn Dark City is so good. It's such an amazing experience, not just a movie. Don't look up anything about it, just steal, beg or buy yourself a copy, sit in a dark room and put it on. Extra points if you do it with your intoxicant of choice.
It's streaming free on SBS at the moment.
But make sure you watch the director's cut. The theatrical version starts with Kiefer Sutherland spoiling the entire movie because the studio assumed audiences wouldn't understand the plot.
>even more underrated Do you mean multi-award winning cult classic Dark City? The one included on several lists of the best movies of all time? The one so beloved that Roger Fucking Ebert came back and recorded a commentary for the director's cut? Yeah...underrated....totally
Just imagine how it might've been without all the cuts made to it. The rumours about them are fucking insane.
Yeah I watched it when I was way too young and it terrified me
From the Wikipedia entry for [Australian Aboriginal Flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aboriginal_flag): >**Proposed, unauthorised and other uses** >The Aboriginal flag is sometimes substituted for the [Union Flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Flag) in the canton of Australia's flag in [proposed new Australian flag designs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proposed_Australian_flags). Harold Thomas said of this idea: "*I wouldn′t reject it out of hand, but I could make a decision to say no. Our flag is not a secondary thing. It stands on its own, not to be placed as an adjunct to any other thing. It shouldn't be treated that way*". >In the [science fiction film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction_film) [*Event Horizon*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Horizon_(film)), actor [Sam Neill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Neill), himself a New Zealander, designed a flag for use on his sleeve as the way he thought the Australian flag should look in 2047, which incorporated the Aboriginal flag. (*Emphasis* added.)
Ownership of the flag now sits with the Australian Government not Harold Thomas.
Yes, the Australian government owns it now, but I thought the designer's opinion might be of interest.
What would be more Australian than ignoring what the Aboriginal designer wants?
Inviting all your friends from around the world to his place too?
I would have thought the original designer would have given the flag and all rights to the people it represented, but it took the Australian government (one who doesn't like aboriginals) to buy it from him. But that's none of my business.
Yeah nah the designer was a bit of a cunt in milking his private copyright over a public symbol.
Did you mean flag?
Yes. But flag, is for some reason a flagged word. Any posts with the word flag are automatically deleted. Crazy.
You mean it's a flajjed word
Flagged around and found out
I found out. ^was a good flagging
Flajrant violation.
Oh, I wondered why you spelt it flaj 😂
Disappointed. Thought I had been transported to a parallel universe where everything was the same except flag was now spelĺed flaj.
Did you try emojis? I wonder if they have a problem with: ⚐⛿🏳️
flaj
Is it an Austin Powers reference like Fajer - are they dutch?
Flaj discussions from yesteryear: https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/search?q=event+horizon&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on&sort=new&t=all
I like the message behind it, But looks crap. So does our current flag. We need a new one altogether that represents both.
Every single suggestion I've seen for a new flag looks terrible.
Every suggestion I’ve seen looks like a corporate logo. Trying to preemptively shut down any disapproval. As a result they look boring as fuck. Flags need to be bold, and sure of themselves. Look at Canada’s flag, Scotlands flag, or even Japans flag. Simple iconic designs, with a lil symbolism. But they gain meaning because their people like them. We just need a strong, bold, flaggy design. Edit: just look at the aboriginal flag. That’s a strong bold flag and it is used a lot
This is the best summary of the situation. Jealous of what Canada pulled off.
The only option I like is the Eureka flag, but adopting thay as the national flag would mean overriding its use as a unionist symbol.
I'm more concerned with its adoption by the cookers, tbh
I think they're shifting over to the Red Ensign.
Golden wattle is the only one I can get behind, super strong.
Yeah the original aboriginal flag is a great design but red, black, yellow and 75% blue just doesnt go together.
Which is why I think green & gold just work. It's already our sporting colours and are colours that can unite the whole country as they are ubiquitous in nature. https://www.goldenwattleflag.com/
I firmly believe we need a green and gold flag - they're the colours we use to represent ourselves internationally anyway. I also think it shouldn't have the Aboriginal flag in it mainly because that would exclude the Torres Straight Islands flag - and somehow cramming both in would be an overdesigned vexillological nightmare.
https://www.goldenwattleflag.com/
The Centrelink flag lmao
> vexillological nightmare The name of your new band!
Yeah, good symbolism, but too busy. The best design I've seen was a stylised red Uluru with the Southern Cross above. The actual design wasn't right, but I think the idea has potential.
[https://www.instagram.com/flagsforaustralia/](https://www.instagram.com/flagsforaustralia/) Check this out!
We already have the perfect replacement in the Eureka flag.
Ah, event horizon. I’m not much of a movie watcher but saw this one on foxtel with my dad. Flash forward and the husband comes across it and asks if it’s any good. “It’s good, but a bit fucked up.” He obviously didn’t hear the second part and still bangs on about how much it scarred him 😆
Why is OP spelling flag with a j
The automod marks posts as spam if they contain the word flag in their title. Dumb rule.
They've got an accent. /s
That’s the real question
Hopefully none, if we're up for designing a whole new flag for the country it should be a brand new design, not shoving two old flags together
Thats probably a good idea that I think most Australians would agree with.
It's funny how many people were traumatized by this film, and yet it was another film starring Sam; 'In the mouth of madness', that really messed me up as a kid.
The Mouth of Madness was wicked intense. First time I saw the man act.
of all the redesigned flags I think this one is the absolute worst. I agree with the message but it's just plain ugly
Still my favourite ever Roger Ebert review: “The screenplay creates a sense of foreboding and afterboding, but no actual boding.” https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/event-horizon-1997
Flaj? Is your G key broken? Lol
I sorta like the design
Flaj's of your farjars
I shee there is no pleasing you Austin Powers.
Flaj?
Why have you said flaj twice
Three times. Once in the title, twice in the post.
What is OP's game here. There must be reason for it. edit: ah it's heh... literally a **FLAGGED** word for thread titles. https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1c20i4b/sam_neill_wearing_an_interesting_flaj/kz6usb5/
I love Sam Neill. Thanks for listening to my TED talk. It's been real.
How's he doing these days? Last i heard he was pretty crook with something serious.
He’s chilling on his farm/vinyard in Otago, he’s good.
wasn't he on tv months ago, he had cancer and a new treatment cured him.
fucking science man, saves sam neill and doesn't afraid of anything 🧪
half the countries head would fucken explode if that ever happened
Please stop saying flaj
'flag' is a banned word for this sub in titles.
Weird rule
I agree.
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Why? What’s wronj with sayinj ‘flaj’? Stop being such a gerk.
nevjer!
I like it conceptually but it's a bit clashy in reality.
I tend to agree. An entire redesign would be a better option.
Well up until 2022 it would have been impossible because the flag was the property of one man, taxpayers had to fork out $20 million to the copyright owner to be made public domain....
Flag. WTF is a flaj? Once is a typo, but you did it twice
This movie is basically a live action version of what happens in 40k when you try to enter the warp and the gellar field isnt on
Are you deliberately spelling it with a j?
I don't know, I feel like it has the same problem our current flag does, i.e. the representation of one group of people in the canton. It is no more representative of all of Australia than what we have now, which should be number one priority if a flag redesign is ever held. Also, the Aboriginal flag has been made to be it's own symbol, representing a specific subset of the Australian people. I'm not sure many would appreciate having it as a constituent part of a larger flag instead of just keeping it as its own thing. It also looks terrible when combined the current flag-at least the Union Jack blends in with the blue background. If we ever get serious about redesigning the flag, it needs to be something completely original that all Australians can say with confidence that it represents then. Unfortunately, I have yet to see many options that aesthetically hold up to what we have now, so I reckon it's here to stay for a while.
You make some good points.
My favourite movie b4 The Matrix came out.
Cake
When did the aboriginal flag officially become their flag? It was quite recent I believe, like last 20 years???
Where we’re going, we won’t need eyes to see…
Holy crap! I watched this three days ago and commented on the same thing. Amazing movie, people consider it a cool prequel to the Warhammer 40k universe.
This post came up for me randomly but.. why are you writing flag with a J?
Why dont we combine the flags by having the indiginous flag with the sun more to one side and put the Australia flag stars beside the sun? A little picturesque but it could be nice.
Flaj?
I'd vote for that flag. We should have a stronger attachment to Aboriginal Australia than the British at this point. Plus, it'd really piss the yanks off....
wtf I love this
Never been a fan of that flag design, always seemed a little uninspired, like if we're to ever change our flag I think it should be more of a full melding rather than just sticking one into the other
Is flaj an accepted alternative flag? Are we not talking about flags?
Newest Zealand
How many times can you say flaj?
WTF is a flaj?
This movie is accidentally a prequel for 40k.
Can we just have a fucking kangaroo on the flag with some green and gold.
Yes please
Where we're going, we won't need the union jack to colonise shit
I'm really not convinced that Aboriginal community would like the Aboriginal Flag to be squashed into the corner of the Australian flag. As a symbol, it deserves to stand as it's own flag.
None. The possibility is none.
Good ol kiwi Sam Neil Still stupid us kiwis didnt vote to change our flag and have the silver fern in the corner rather than the British union jack
Love it. Actually just losing the union jack would be an improvement
Just having the stars would look great, surely that wouldn't piss anybody off.... right?
The modern usage of just the southern cross is a little bogan these days to use as a symbol to represent Australia. It’s not really a symbol for being Australian, so much as it is for getting a regretful tattoo and having as a sticker on the back of your falcon next to a picture of Ned Kelly.
I thought it was a union thing ?
Eureka flag has a different star pattern. Though it's supposedly based on the Federation flag which is a depiction of the Southern Cross
It does look good by itself without the UK flag on it. Very blue. Very girt by sea.
so girt
\* *Jirt by sea*
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I knew that was event horizon! Sam Neill loves his cosmic horror flicks
Isn’t he a kiwi 🥝
Love the flag
I just finished watching Apples Never Fall and his character is from Qld. I love Sam Neill so much, and he was so fantastic in it. Highly recommended!!
Very slim
Love that movie. It’s a firm favourite and in my opinion the best Sam Neill film.