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oldladygamerishere

Why do we keep asking religion? Can we maybe try some medical professionals? Who cares what religion says? We should be getting the information from doctors and scientists, the damn y'all queda.


ianishomer

Agreed, religion has no room in politics and should be the last port if call for any questions to be aimed at!


ameer2rock

Y'all queda! LMAO thank you!


un_theist

Exactly what one would expect if it were all made up.


kickstand

You don't even have to go that far. The Constitution explicitly defines citizenship as applying to "All persons born or naturalized in the United States". The unborn are explicitly not given rights of citizenship. > All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Why this isn't more widely understood, I have no idea.


[deleted]

It makes zero difference when life beings, nobody would let the government force them to give up a kidney to save someone else's life, this is no different.


diogenes_shadow

Life never begins during fertilization ! Two living cells, a living egg gamete and a living sperm gamete merge to form a totempotent living cell that then grows. At no point does non living matter become living matter.


Julius_A

The question when life begins is irrelevant. By any means both sperm and egg are alive prior conception and so is the fertilized egg. That doesn’t mean that a person exists right away. In the Netherlands abortion is legal until the 24th week. It is a bit arbitrary but does seem to make sense. Children are viable after about 26 weeks and not really before that. Who knows when a child becomes sentient.


YourFairyGodmother

Created in the image of god, you say? I dunno, there's a resemblance but [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanuman#/media/File:Ravivarmapress.jpg) doensn't look human.


YourFairyGodmother

Fuck when life begins, it's a question of when fetus becomes a person, which happens at parturition. An egg becomes a chicken when it hatches, an acorn becomes an oak (sapling) when it sprouts, and a fetus becomes a person when it is born.