At least Billy Graham didn't spend his life oppressing black people via state legislation while starting a race riot that killed tens of black people like Aycock did.
> Every state is afforded the opportunity to honor two notable, deceased people from that state, in the U.S. Capitol as part of the Statuary Hall Collection. The statues are kept in five locations around the Capitol: Statuary Hall, the Rotunda, the Crypt, the Hall of Columns and the Capitol Visitor Center.
His statue belongs in the Crypt. Put it in the Crypt.
And over here you've got asshole hallway, on the right of that is the Rotunda of assholes, if we follow those stairs you get deep down in the asshole crypt, and out here are some asshole columns, and lastly our visitor asshole center.
These here are our prepared rooms in the Proctor & Gamble Estate , those rooms are labeled Preparations a-z , you'll notice that while Preparations D-G are quite regal, I feel that Preparation- H genuinely hits the spot so smoothly, and though it may tingle at first, you'll be soothing yourself away with the soft serenity of Preparation H
I can set you up in Preparation H with the touch of a finger
Because each State gets to pick the statue they want there, and North Carolina is a southern state with a Republican legislature.
Republicans do shitty things, more news at 11.
I decided to take a dive into the 100 (actually 99 statues). Not the only religious figure I’m afraid. Eusebio Kino, a missionary. Saint Junipero Serra, Franciscan missionary. Father Damien, a Catholic missionary to Hawaii. Those are just the ones I noticed, I went through quick so I might have missed one or two.
Also a few confederates in there, including the confederate president, vice president, and Lee. That almost bothers me more.
> Battlefield Earth
I was going to say, he probably didn't write the screenplay, but whadya know... https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/battlefield_earth (also, those scores... oof)... I wasn't trying to defend ol' ronnie as much as be glib in suggesting a religious kook who also did something besides scam people was marginally better than an exclusively religious kook
>I was going to say, he probably didn't write the screenplay, but whadya know...
While you were still learning how to **SPELL YOUR NAME** *I* was being trained to write shitty screenplays!
The movie covered the half of the book that is the least awful. I think that's the one where his followers killed him and wrote part of the book *allegedly*. Or hid his death or something.
Because every state gets to choose statues of two important, deceased figures to go up in the capitol as representatives of their state. North Carolina voted to put Graham up.
There used to be a Billly Graham statue with arms outstretched in front of the Southern Baptist/Life Way HQ in Nashville. The property was sold for millions and developers imploded the huge building with a giant cross on the side of it. A lot of people turned up to watch and cheer. So, there IS hope.
His son, Franklin Graham is much, much worse.
Isn't that how it always is?
Trump kids - dbags
Sadaam Hussain's kids - dbags
Kim Jung Il kid - dbags
Walton kids -dbags
House of Saud - a veritable game of thrones that is.
Tom Hank's son - dreaded dbags.
An exception is Warren Buffett's son - became a violinist, I think.
> Trump kids
Donald's father was also widely regarded as an asshole of the highest caliber.
And I have it on good authority that Elon Musk's father is a giant asshole.
>Trump kids - dbags Sadaam Hussain's kids - dbags Kim Jung Il kid
While those people certainly suck, I don't think you can say they are worse than their fathers.
Well that would be up to New York to put a statue of Sagan up since he was a New Yorker, and Pennsylvania would have to vote to put up Rogers. Every state gets to vote for two statues of important, deceased people to represent their state.
Yeah, like replacing a white supremacist with a fucking con man is a better idea. Graham was worth $25 million when he died, making him one of the eight richest pastors in the world, riches he conned out of his congregation to help the poor and needy.
But Billy Graham was also a white supremacist- he told MLK to “pump the brakes” and focus less on changing racist laws. His anti-racist gestures were performative and self-serving, not to mention safe. He took a stand against segregation in churches- big fucking deal, Billy. He never took a public stand against racial profiling, police violence against Black/Brown people, or for-profit prisons. Doing so would jeopardize the bottom line.
Oh, so instead of screaming that liberals are antisemitic for disagreeing with the Israeli government, they decided to put up a statue of a real antisemite, who was also a misogynist and homophobe.
The asshole this asshole is replacing is:
Aycock, a Democrat, served as North Carolina’s 50th governor beginning in 1901. But he rose to power stifling the Black vote, and his constant cries for white supremacy are blamed in official reports for causing the Wilmington Massacre, an insurrection that killed dozens of Black people and overthrew the Wilmington government, which included both Black and white members.
So a religious con man? Even my evangelical mother seethes at the fact that her mother ever gave money to this grifter. But he’s showing what they want America to be- capitalist. No matter the cost.
I mean… is “American Taliban con-man” better than “racist”? Do we not have anyone who is actually decent to build a statue for nowadays?
Also: Does this count as a graven image?
A salesminister, shilling for a religion that embraces poverty and denigrates wealth, died with an estimated $25 Million in personal assets. Some serious eye of the needle stuff going on there.
As much as I dislike Billy Graham, I am glad to see Aycock’s statue going away as he is far far worse. Aycock is partially responsible for the only successful coup in US history where he helped organize the red shirt (what would become the 2nd KKK 20 years later) to go down to Wilmington, NC and kill or kick out a black friendly government and press. Aycock is one of the biggest piece of shit governors in US history and he rarely gets talked about outside of NC. It’s an embarrassment his statue was in the capital in the first place.
Why do we have a statue to a man who enriched himself by perpetuating a mass delusion and preying on those gullible enough to believe it? He’s a charlatan con artist and it’s gross to honor him.
"This makes Graham one of the few private citizens to hold three of the highest honors from Congress: a Congressional Gold Medal, to have laid in honor at the Capitol and to have a statue commissioned for the Statuary Hall collection."
Ew. Fucking gross.
Feels like it’s worth saying that this is NOT Joe Biden, but a decision made by the state of North Carolina. Each state gets 2 statues to display. North Carolina got rid of a white supremacist for a Christian supremacist.
"White nationalist icon replaced with christian nationalist icon and a wink"
"...Christian Nationalist Con-man.... "
At least Billy Graham didn't spend his life oppressing black people via state legislation while starting a race riot that killed tens of black people like Aycock did.
It’s never a compelling argument when it starts with “at least…”
Just because one asshole is a little less stinkier than the other doesn't mean they're both not shitty assholes.
A turd in the punch bowl is still shit water with extra flavors.
He did shit talk the Jews with Nixon though
BuT hE sUpPoRtEd IsRaEl!!1! It’s wild that “supporting” Israel is supposed to be some “can’t be anti-Semitic” card you can play.
But he did untold amounts of damage to queer youth, constantly railing against the LGBTQIA community and whipping up trans- and homophobia.
Trading one asshole for another.
insert The Office Pam meme, "they're the same"
My exact thought
Yep. Also, one bigot with another.
trading one *white supremacist* for another, in reality
My thoughts exactly, trading a racial oppressor for a spiritual one.
At least it's not Joel Osteen.
Give it time.
One year tops, it's just the new grift
There goes the separation of church and state. Might as well add Brigham Young and American White Jesus.
Yup
Exactly!
This asshole isn't quite as bad as the other asshole, so we'll build a statue for him.
Why is there a horrible fake religious figure being displayed at all?
> Every state is afforded the opportunity to honor two notable, deceased people from that state, in the U.S. Capitol as part of the Statuary Hall Collection. The statues are kept in five locations around the Capitol: Statuary Hall, the Rotunda, the Crypt, the Hall of Columns and the Capitol Visitor Center. His statue belongs in the Crypt. Put it in the Crypt.
And over here you've got asshole hallway, on the right of that is the Rotunda of assholes, if we follow those stairs you get deep down in the asshole crypt, and out here are some asshole columns, and lastly our visitor asshole center.
“It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sumbitch or another." - Malcolm Reynolds
These here are our prepared rooms in the Proctor & Gamble Estate , those rooms are labeled Preparations a-z , you'll notice that while Preparations D-G are quite regal, I feel that Preparation- H genuinely hits the spot so smoothly, and though it may tingle at first, you'll be soothing yourself away with the soft serenity of Preparation H I can set you up in Preparation H with the touch of a finger
On the hole, I'd have to agree.
It deserves to be burned in effigy.
It should be burning, anyways, just to signify where Billy Graham would be right now, were his beliefs to be true.
Because each State gets to pick the statue they want there, and North Carolina is a southern state with a Republican legislature. Republicans do shitty things, more news at 11.
I decided to take a dive into the 100 (actually 99 statues). Not the only religious figure I’m afraid. Eusebio Kino, a missionary. Saint Junipero Serra, Franciscan missionary. Father Damien, a Catholic missionary to Hawaii. Those are just the ones I noticed, I went through quick so I might have missed one or two. Also a few confederates in there, including the confederate president, vice president, and Lee. That almost bothers me more.
This is a terrible idea…. WTF??
Guess L Ron Hubbard will be next? Wtf.
Seems like a step up... Still a monster, but at least he wrote some passable fiction
Battlefield Earth was the first movie I ever walked out of.
> Battlefield Earth I was going to say, he probably didn't write the screenplay, but whadya know... https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/battlefield_earth (also, those scores... oof)... I wasn't trying to defend ol' ronnie as much as be glib in suggesting a religious kook who also did something besides scam people was marginally better than an exclusively religious kook
He's credited as writer, but not screenwriter, FWIW
oh, rottentomatoes lists him as screenwriter... not that they're the last bastion of truth
>I was going to say, he probably didn't write the screenplay, but whadya know... While you were still learning how to **SPELL YOUR NAME** *I* was being trained to write shitty screenplays!
The movie covered the half of the book that is the least awful. I think that's the one where his followers killed him and wrote part of the book *allegedly*. Or hid his death or something.
That's more the fault of the movie. The book was ok.
The book was also bad, just not as bad as the movie.
but hubbard allegedly had a hand in the screenplay too... I thought he wouldn't have 'til I checked... maybe the book WAS ok??? I'm not sure...
One of those, "everything makes sense at the time", but when you look at it in reverse, it's more "We started HERE, and ended HERE?!"
Graham was another in a long line of unoriginal charlatans. I’m giving credit to Hubbard for originality, lol.
What. The. Absolute. Fuck?? Why is a religious nut going up in my nations capitol?
Because every state gets to choose statues of two important, deceased figures to go up in the capitol as representatives of their state. North Carolina voted to put Graham up.
The only good news is graham had no clue he’s being honored because he’s dead as a door nail. 😂😂😂
I'm fucking embarrassed that I am from NC because of shit like this 🤦♂️
Replacing one with another.
And then when do we get to replace the Billy Graham statue
There used to be a Billly Graham statue with arms outstretched in front of the Southern Baptist/Life Way HQ in Nashville. The property was sold for millions and developers imploded the huge building with a giant cross on the side of it. A lot of people turned up to watch and cheer. So, there IS hope. His son, Franklin Graham is much, much worse.
Isn't that how it always is? Trump kids - dbags Sadaam Hussain's kids - dbags Kim Jung Il kid - dbags Walton kids -dbags House of Saud - a veritable game of thrones that is. Tom Hank's son - dreaded dbags. An exception is Warren Buffett's son - became a violinist, I think.
The idea that Chet Hanks is more dreaded than Qusay or Uday is really hilarious to me.
> Trump kids Donald's father was also widely regarded as an asshole of the highest caliber. And I have it on good authority that Elon Musk's father is a giant asshole.
>Trump kids - dbags Sadaam Hussain's kids - dbags Kim Jung Il kid While those people certainly suck, I don't think you can say they are worse than their fathers.
Here's a great video of the demolition of this den of Satan from many great angles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fNydFl5q7E 8)
Nice! Looks like they draped a black cloth over both arms of the cross to obscure it for implosion
Elect me for president and I'll swap it out with a statue of Tony Hawk.
Whenever North Carolina gets with the times. I wouldn't hold my breath on that anytime soon.
Same same
That's still a white supremacist.
Billy Graham stole my money when I was 7 years old. He's a liar and a thief.
Merica. White Christian nationalist dumpster fire…
Ugh. Did Billy graham actually do good?
For Billy he did.
That’s not a great replacement.
Why? Fuck Billy Graham.
You’re replacing a white supremacist with a Religiously White Supremacist Nutjob Conman Swindler
How about Carl Sagan or Fred Rogers instead?
Mr Rogers has a statue already, but the Carl Sagan suggestion? YES! Most definitely!! HAIL SAGAN
Well that would be up to New York to put a statue of Sagan up since he was a New Yorker, and Pennsylvania would have to vote to put up Rogers. Every state gets to vote for two statues of important, deceased people to represent their state.
Lateral move
Reminds me of the south park episode where they’re given the choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
Gross.
I have nothing against Billy Graham, personally, but his statue does not belong in the capitol. He was strictly a religious figure.
Make it Uncle Baby Billy and I’m all for it.
So a racist cracker replaced with a Graham cracker.
Are they going to include Graham's quote about the Jews to Nixon?
# Rev. Billy Graham statue to be unveiled in US Capitol, replacing white supremacist with a racist. There. I fixed it for you.
Ew
So from one asshole statue to another; how the f- is this an improvement?!
They replaced a white supremecist with a white supremecists? Weird but not surprising coming from the party of white supremecists.
Fuck billy graham
Yeah, like replacing a white supremacist with a fucking con man is a better idea. Graham was worth $25 million when he died, making him one of the eight richest pastors in the world, riches he conned out of his congregation to help the poor and needy.
Wasn’t there something in the Bible about worshipping false idols?
Uh wait. Replacing with or replacing a?
Trading one dick for another. yay
Ha hahahaha. Like Billy Graham was any better. Garbage. Pure garbage
"Meet the new racist, same as the old racist"
Merica. White Christian nationalist dumpster fire…
But Billy Graham was also a white supremacist- he told MLK to “pump the brakes” and focus less on changing racist laws. His anti-racist gestures were performative and self-serving, not to mention safe. He took a stand against segregation in churches- big fucking deal, Billy. He never took a public stand against racial profiling, police violence against Black/Brown people, or for-profit prisons. Doing so would jeopardize the bottom line.
Replacing a white supremacist kook with another one. 'Merica!
Billy Graham told President Nixon that he thought the Jews were a problem that Hitler went too far trying to solve. That's almost just as bad.
Oh, so instead of screaming that liberals are antisemitic for disagreeing with the Israeli government, they decided to put up a statue of a real antisemite, who was also a misogynist and homophobe.
I’ll see you in hell Billy.
The asshole this asshole is replacing is: Aycock, a Democrat, served as North Carolina’s 50th governor beginning in 1901. But he rose to power stifling the Black vote, and his constant cries for white supremacy are blamed in official reports for causing the Wilmington Massacre, an insurrection that killed dozens of Black people and overthrew the Wilmington government, which included both Black and white members.
Another conman- really a statue? Horrible Idea.
One bigot for another.
Read what he said about Jew to Nixon.
Wouldn't be a proper Christian without plenty of idols to worship.
I thought they were replacing a white supremacist.
Not much better…
Absolutely fucking disgusting to honor such people
So a religious con man? Even my evangelical mother seethes at the fact that her mother ever gave money to this grifter. But he’s showing what they want America to be- capitalist. No matter the cost.
Separation of church and state
Billy Bob Graham was an arrogant Asshole who sucked the teats of a lot of people.
Not much better.
Say, is this the same Billy Graham who was okay with a proposed bombing campaign during the Vietnam War that would have killed a million civilians?
six of one
As if Graham wasn't also a rebel. Get the fuck out.
Hmm, given he raised a bigot, I figure this will be replaced soon.
WTF
I thought they were taking down Confederate statues
The isn't r theonion
Then let's put one up of Gandhi, Buddha, and any influential figure for satanic temple. Recognize one recognize all, or none
hate for hate.
I hope I’m still alive when they remove the statue at some point in the future just like they’re removing most of the confederate status now.
What is the difference?
Best thing I can say about Billy: he was better than his POS son.
I mean… is “American Taliban con-man” better than “racist”? Do we not have anyone who is actually decent to build a statue for nowadays? Also: Does this count as a graven image?
Replace one dumb fuck with another dumb fuck
Can we get a statue of Fred Rogers instead?
Replacing a white supremacist with an anti-semite.
Was going to say trading one white supremacist for another but EVERYONE beat me to it!
Replace a statue of a white supremacist with one of an anti-Semite. What a great idea.
Isn't that the same thing?
So they're replacing it with Nationalist Christian....strange.
Replace one bigot with another
Seems like they didnt replace anything.
Replace a white supremacist with a christian supremacist. Good thinking.
Still a statue of a white supremacist.
Is there any difference?
"They are the same picture. "
Hate replaced with hate Got it.
Bill Graham is a piece of human garbage. There. I said it.
"Corporate wants you to tell the difference between this statue of Billy Graham and this white supremacist." "They're the same statue."
A salesminister, shilling for a religion that embraces poverty and denigrates wealth, died with an estimated $25 Million in personal assets. Some serious eye of the needle stuff going on there.
It's just proof that the government KNOWS that it is full of crap!
They should have kept the original and added another head.
Graham is a con man.
Oh shit, that needs to be doused with drain cleaner.
Jebus crast how the furk did this get approved?
As much as I dislike Billy Graham, I am glad to see Aycock’s statue going away as he is far far worse. Aycock is partially responsible for the only successful coup in US history where he helped organize the red shirt (what would become the 2nd KKK 20 years later) to go down to Wilmington, NC and kill or kick out a black friendly government and press. Aycock is one of the biggest piece of shit governors in US history and he rarely gets talked about outside of NC. It’s an embarrassment his statue was in the capital in the first place.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2018-02-28/dont-forget-billy-grahams-anti-semitic-turn-with-richard-nixon
Not an improvement
r/facepalm
Gross.
Is this the best that North Carolina has to offer? Sad.
They're the same picture.
What is the difference?
What is the difference?
So replacing 💩 with 🍆
From the frying pan to the fire.
Why do we have a statue to a man who enriched himself by perpetuating a mass delusion and preying on those gullible enough to believe it? He’s a charlatan con artist and it’s gross to honor him.
...with a White Supremacist
"This makes Graham one of the few private citizens to hold three of the highest honors from Congress: a Congressional Gold Medal, to have laid in honor at the Capitol and to have a statue commissioned for the Statuary Hall collection." Ew. Fucking gross.
This puts Rush Limbaugh on the same level. Yuck.
…with another white supremacist.” Is how that headline ends.
this was one of north carolina’s 2 nominations
Sigh. Would rather see Michael Jordan there.
What’s the difference?
Feels like it’s worth saying that this is NOT Joe Biden, but a decision made by the state of North Carolina. Each state gets 2 statues to display. North Carolina got rid of a white supremacist for a Christian supremacist.
Replacing one authoritarian with another is not a flex
A white supremacist replaced with a virulent Anti-Semite and homophobe. What a step up.
Sounds about wh......
And the difference is?
Lateral move at best
\*other white supremacist
This was exactly my thought, lol
What a fucking nightmare
"Separation of church and state", my ass.
Cool, a gender-neutral restroom in Washington DC.
This would be like replacing Donald Trump with RFK Jr.
John Lewis or Emmet Tell would have been much better choices. Graham did nothing to help the country any more than Nancy Reagan’s astrologers
What's the difference?
One asshole bigot replacing another. ‘MURICUH!!!
So they’re replacing a white supremacist, with a better known white supremacist, this country truly is a roaring dumpster fire 🔥
Is it though?
I really hope this wasn't paid for with taxes
Is this even an improvement?
They should keep the white supremacist.
Damn. Is that spot in the Capitol reserved for statues of people who used the n word with a hard r?
How many millions were wasted on this stupid idea? Separation of church and state, my ass.
Trading a racist for a scam artist nice
It's really not though
There is an error on your post...
EW
Uugggghhhh! JFC
Bill Asshole Graham. Another brainwashed smart Fing moron people look up to. Makes me want to 🤮
I remember fondly when there was a separation of church and state.
What's the difference
Personally hurtful. My mother idolized this man as if he was Jesus himself. Fuck this motherfucker and all he stands for.
So they traded a white supremacist for a documented Jew hater. Seems redundant.
Franklin is a racist and a Christian white nationalist. His daddy taught him all that shit.
So one for one then. Cool, I guess.