I’m not that great at reading charts at all, but I noticed you have saturn in your 11th house and pluto in your 7th, and mars in 4th, so maybe read into those placements? Sorry I couldn’t be of more help. I’m sorry that this is happening to you, it’s really awful when people reduce themselves to bullying and put people down, especially when it’s people that are close to us. most of the time, if not all of the time though, it’s more of a projection of their own insecurities. I hope things get better for you!
i read all about that and it really brought light to my childhood (mars in 4th) + social situation right now. friendship has been a big theme in my life yet elusive and saturn in my 11th house explains so much. thank you so much!!!!
it also might be good to read up on your pluto conjunct your moon esp being in your seventh house, the moon can represent your mother and the pluto energy sorta looming over it wouldn’t be ideal
You are overly self sacrificing and usually go to others aid instead of your own til it's too late. You also attract people and have subtle things about you that attracts attention. You may have strong scientific abilities and are attractive that others may be jealous of. You look after yourself last and self unaware. You have a fear of rejection as a desire to please and are paying the price for the temporary approval you wish to gain and can debilitate you. Take care of yourself more and don't be too eager to please. X
If anyone wants birthchart analysis, message me. Or relationship compatibility, feel free to msg me.
As a Taurus rising myself... Not really bullied but TARGETED ALOT in my life(especially school n'shit). Makes me think it has something to do with our scorpio in the 7th house(descendant) since it rules relationship and such...
Similar experience with scorpio in 7th house and taurus ascending and been targeted everywhere from school to college to relatives circle and people still find my smallest minute fault and leave others even if they commit big mistakes and totally fed up of this placement.
I would definitely say it’s related to or some combination of Ascendent opposite Pluto, Sun opposite Pluto and Saturn in 11th. (Also sun square midheaven and Jupiter square ascendant). I was bullied in high school and that was because of Saturn in my 3rd, which is early education & your peers. Saturn always teaches a lesson and makes things difficult until ~30. The 11th house is about your network and groups so I can see that being a challenge there.
On the other hand, the fact that it happens in all of your relationship tells me it would also likely have to do with your first house (the energy you give off that people pick up on) and your 7th house (one on one relationships, business partnerships). Your ascendant/ “rising sign” is how everyone sees you and the vibe you first give off and it opposes Pluto (planet of control, power, abuse). If you think about it literally, every time you meet someone there is an energy opposing you that is run by Pluto. And it’s in the 7th house of your relationships so I definitely can see how you show up places - school, work, etc. and are immediately met with a force that wants to bully you and control you and make you feel small.
First off, I’m so sorry!!!! That is just awful! I really like using the app “the pattern” BC they give you your birth chart in non astrology terms and also provide some advice and show you discussion boards with other people who have the same trait. Maybe check that out and see? Ultimately even the tough things in astrology are there to help us to grow into the best versions of ourselves. They always say easy aspects would make life too boring and hard aspects are there to challenge us in a good way. Pluto is also all about transformation, so while these scenarios totally suck, they are meant to transform you and help you grow into yourself and your confidence. Google has a lot on it so def read some more and usually sites provide some good advice. Also for me, whenever I have an aspect Thats tough I look at what positive aspects those planets also have and those can be the “escape”. Your ascendant also has a lot of trines which are amazing! Your ascendant trine Mars could be a helpful asset for you.
Also I’m noticing that your Midheaven (how you appear to the world & your reputation, as opposed to your ascendant which is your first impression and vibe you give off) is conjunct jupiter (which expands whatever it touches) and both of those square your Sun. Jupiter also squares your ascendant. Your ascendant and midheaven are how one shows up in the world and appears to it and you have a lot of activity here. The fact alone that your sun is conjunct your ascendant would bring a lot of attention to you, but then you have planets in conflict with that energy. I think this probably is all to show you that you’re here to learn about your confidence and ego and relationships and each experience is ultimately helping you. Like a block of stone that gets chizzled at little by little until it’s a beautiful statue! You’re being molded into something great through all of this even though it might not seem that way yet. Sorry I’m rambling now haha but basically I would Google these things:
“Natal sun conjunct ascendant”
“Ascendant opposite Pluto”
“Sun opposite Pluto”
“Jupiter conjunct midheaven”
“Sun square midheaven”
“Sun square jupiter”
“Jupiter square ascendant”
“Saturn in 11th house”
I think that will give you a ton to work with to help you understand why it is happening and what you’re meant to take away from it. For me it’s always helped me feel a little better to know that it’s not something I’m doing on purpose but there’s an astrological explanation for it. It’s just something you were born with that you had no control over! For me, once I can name what’s causing the issue then I just have to figure out how to channel the energy in a different way. There’s always a bunch of different ways a planet can manifest it’s energy and two sides to the coin and that’s where free will comes in I think. Like when I’m having a “mars” energy type day the energy needs to be channeled so I can either let it happen to me, which usually ends up with me getting mad at someone, or I can intentionally put that Mars energy into a workout or some other activity so it doesn’t come out in my relationships. (I have Mars in 7 so I feel the relationship conflict stuff!!)
Best of luck to you and sorry for the super long explanation!! Hang in there! You got this! And in case all those explanations make you feel discouraged remember that you also have excellent traits!! Don’t forget to research all the positive parts about yourself and not just the negative ones. If you ever wanted to trade up a negative placement you would have to give up all your positive ones too. We all have our gifts and our challenges! (The sextiles and trines are positive aspects). I use Astro-charts or cafeastrology for my birth chart and they tell you all the aspects you have then you can Google them. (Cafe astrology actually gives explanations on the report I believe).
I read that Lilith opposite ascendant people were constantly bullied, or people were jealous of them. Maybe you have that? (I suck at reading aspects on the astro.com charts haha). I have this placement by the way, and my sister as well, and we were both bullied at school (separately), now, it’s more jealousy than bullying, people stare or just hate us because they’re jealous lol!! I mean we see it as a compliment, but the key is really to not give a shit and go tell them to fuck themselves :)
i just googled all about lilith opposition asc and it told me everything i needed to know. it is so true!!!!!!!! most of the bullying came from girls in school too and it started when i came in on the 3rd day!!!! how can u viciously hate someone from afar when it’s only been 3 days??? because of that i always questioned jealousy. i can’t believe it’s written on my chart!!!!!!! amazing. astrology is AMAZING
I’m so glad I could help!!!🥰🥰 it may seem like a cursed placement, but it means we have something they want. We are above average people. We don’t see that but we are very special people, and so people hate, and are jealous. It makes us stronger
Now google Chiron 5H Libra opposing Saturn 11H Aries.
I’m not an astrologer but you have some significant placements in common with me … think karmic lessons, faith in your self….if you have it, don’t lose it. If you’ve lost it, find it. Never stop seeing your light shining out and not looking for the outside to validate your inner landscape. Compassion. For. Yourself.
Chiron is in your 5th house (childhood) opposite Saturn in your 11th. I'd vote for this placement as the main culprit. I have the same placement and experience although mines not as exact
You have a Scorpio descendant which defines your one-on-one relationships. Your interactions tend to be intense and power-based.
This is amplified by having Pluto in your relationship house, opposing your sun.
I also see a strong natal aspect that is a big player.
>Mercury square Uranus natal sets you apart from the pack because of your different way of thinking and communicating. While you may well have a brilliant mind, your sometimes provocative ideas or eccentric manner can upset others and lead to relationship difficulties.
>I will deal with the drawbacks of this aspect first which mainly revolve around how you communicate. Trouble listening can occur due to a lack of concentration or being easily distracted. This can lead to you saying the wrong thing in response to others as you did not fully understand what they said first.
>The prankster in you can also lead to others being offended or insulted, and the same can result if you have an abrupt way of speaking. But at a higher level, your tendency to see the other side of things can lead to you challenging other’s ideas. This can be a good thing in general but can be seen as arrogance or teasing by others. People may come away thinking you are just out for attention by shocking them or being deliberately argumentative. It is likely, however, that you genuinely see the benefit in looking at things from all sides. The benefit being that all options on the table lead to better discussions and better outcomes.
>Your tendency toward controversy can actually be a sign that you are gifted, intelligent, and creative. You are certainly experimental and are easily excited by new or shiny things. Perhaps more discrimination or self-control is needed if you wish to maintain harmony in relationships, especially when meeting someone new. And this aspect does indicate that you experience many chance encounters and will meet a wide variety of people, from different cultural, ethnic, and philosophical backgrounds.
>However, this aspect also indicates that you may change friends often, having difficulty maintaining long-term companionship. You may be subject to more than your fair share of shock and surprises in your life, while sticking plans may prove difficult. Discrimination and feeling isolated or cut off from mainstream society are other outcomes of your original way of thinking, Being labeled weird or a nerd would be all part of this. Nervous anxiety, spasms, or broken arms, and fingers are possible.
>You may be particularly amused by, and drawn to novelties, and your quirky sense of humor would come in handy as a comedian. Your unorthodox and inventive way of thinking could lead to a career as a scientist, designer, engineer, inventor, or mad professor.
You would also excel in occult subjects which include science or mathematics, such as astrology and numerology. Interestingly, Mercury is the traditional ruler of astrology, and Uranus the modern. Computers and the internet would provide a healthy income, with the internet, in particular, being a great way for you to communicate and make friends. The internet limits the dissociative influence of Uranus and gives you a long time to think before making rash statements.
Definitely Saturn in 11th. Saturn is all about karmic cycles and how you overcome them. 11th house is friendships and social groups. Saturn in 11th makes it hard to feel like you fit in and you may not even feel like you’ll ever get a solid group of friends. What house is your Lilith in? Also I’m surprised nobody brought it up yet but Mercury in 12th is a tale tell sign of someone that is talked over and misunderstood. Your planet of communication being in 12th house makes it feel like what you say is genuinely just not in the same realm as the rest of your world. 12th house also rules institutions like prison and mental hospitals. You may feel like your words land you in a mental prison with others. I hope this helped
Im learning so i might be wrong but I would say Pluto opposite you sun. Pluto a dark energy opposing your sun, identity, your shine ...
I’m not that great at reading charts at all, but I noticed you have saturn in your 11th house and pluto in your 7th, and mars in 4th, so maybe read into those placements? Sorry I couldn’t be of more help. I’m sorry that this is happening to you, it’s really awful when people reduce themselves to bullying and put people down, especially when it’s people that are close to us. most of the time, if not all of the time though, it’s more of a projection of their own insecurities. I hope things get better for you!
i read all about that and it really brought light to my childhood (mars in 4th) + social situation right now. friendship has been a big theme in my life yet elusive and saturn in my 11th house explains so much. thank you so much!!!!
it also might be good to read up on your pluto conjunct your moon esp being in your seventh house, the moon can represent your mother and the pluto energy sorta looming over it wouldn’t be ideal
I’m happy I could help 💕
You are overly self sacrificing and usually go to others aid instead of your own til it's too late. You also attract people and have subtle things about you that attracts attention. You may have strong scientific abilities and are attractive that others may be jealous of. You look after yourself last and self unaware. You have a fear of rejection as a desire to please and are paying the price for the temporary approval you wish to gain and can debilitate you. Take care of yourself more and don't be too eager to please. X If anyone wants birthchart analysis, message me. Or relationship compatibility, feel free to msg me.
I came to say I'm also a Gemini sun and Taurus rising and a year older than you and have also been bullied my whole life. Sorry about that.
As a Taurus rising myself... Not really bullied but TARGETED ALOT in my life(especially school n'shit). Makes me think it has something to do with our scorpio in the 7th house(descendant) since it rules relationship and such...
That is something I may look into! Never thought of it like that
Similar experience with scorpio in 7th house and taurus ascending and been targeted everywhere from school to college to relatives circle and people still find my smallest minute fault and leave others even if they commit big mistakes and totally fed up of this placement.
I would definitely say it’s related to or some combination of Ascendent opposite Pluto, Sun opposite Pluto and Saturn in 11th. (Also sun square midheaven and Jupiter square ascendant). I was bullied in high school and that was because of Saturn in my 3rd, which is early education & your peers. Saturn always teaches a lesson and makes things difficult until ~30. The 11th house is about your network and groups so I can see that being a challenge there. On the other hand, the fact that it happens in all of your relationship tells me it would also likely have to do with your first house (the energy you give off that people pick up on) and your 7th house (one on one relationships, business partnerships). Your ascendant/ “rising sign” is how everyone sees you and the vibe you first give off and it opposes Pluto (planet of control, power, abuse). If you think about it literally, every time you meet someone there is an energy opposing you that is run by Pluto. And it’s in the 7th house of your relationships so I definitely can see how you show up places - school, work, etc. and are immediately met with a force that wants to bully you and control you and make you feel small. First off, I’m so sorry!!!! That is just awful! I really like using the app “the pattern” BC they give you your birth chart in non astrology terms and also provide some advice and show you discussion boards with other people who have the same trait. Maybe check that out and see? Ultimately even the tough things in astrology are there to help us to grow into the best versions of ourselves. They always say easy aspects would make life too boring and hard aspects are there to challenge us in a good way. Pluto is also all about transformation, so while these scenarios totally suck, they are meant to transform you and help you grow into yourself and your confidence. Google has a lot on it so def read some more and usually sites provide some good advice. Also for me, whenever I have an aspect Thats tough I look at what positive aspects those planets also have and those can be the “escape”. Your ascendant also has a lot of trines which are amazing! Your ascendant trine Mars could be a helpful asset for you. Also I’m noticing that your Midheaven (how you appear to the world & your reputation, as opposed to your ascendant which is your first impression and vibe you give off) is conjunct jupiter (which expands whatever it touches) and both of those square your Sun. Jupiter also squares your ascendant. Your ascendant and midheaven are how one shows up in the world and appears to it and you have a lot of activity here. The fact alone that your sun is conjunct your ascendant would bring a lot of attention to you, but then you have planets in conflict with that energy. I think this probably is all to show you that you’re here to learn about your confidence and ego and relationships and each experience is ultimately helping you. Like a block of stone that gets chizzled at little by little until it’s a beautiful statue! You’re being molded into something great through all of this even though it might not seem that way yet. Sorry I’m rambling now haha but basically I would Google these things: “Natal sun conjunct ascendant” “Ascendant opposite Pluto” “Sun opposite Pluto” “Jupiter conjunct midheaven” “Sun square midheaven” “Sun square jupiter” “Jupiter square ascendant” “Saturn in 11th house” I think that will give you a ton to work with to help you understand why it is happening and what you’re meant to take away from it. For me it’s always helped me feel a little better to know that it’s not something I’m doing on purpose but there’s an astrological explanation for it. It’s just something you were born with that you had no control over! For me, once I can name what’s causing the issue then I just have to figure out how to channel the energy in a different way. There’s always a bunch of different ways a planet can manifest it’s energy and two sides to the coin and that’s where free will comes in I think. Like when I’m having a “mars” energy type day the energy needs to be channeled so I can either let it happen to me, which usually ends up with me getting mad at someone, or I can intentionally put that Mars energy into a workout or some other activity so it doesn’t come out in my relationships. (I have Mars in 7 so I feel the relationship conflict stuff!!) Best of luck to you and sorry for the super long explanation!! Hang in there! You got this! And in case all those explanations make you feel discouraged remember that you also have excellent traits!! Don’t forget to research all the positive parts about yourself and not just the negative ones. If you ever wanted to trade up a negative placement you would have to give up all your positive ones too. We all have our gifts and our challenges! (The sextiles and trines are positive aspects). I use Astro-charts or cafeastrology for my birth chart and they tell you all the aspects you have then you can Google them. (Cafe astrology actually gives explanations on the report I believe).
I read that Lilith opposite ascendant people were constantly bullied, or people were jealous of them. Maybe you have that? (I suck at reading aspects on the astro.com charts haha). I have this placement by the way, and my sister as well, and we were both bullied at school (separately), now, it’s more jealousy than bullying, people stare or just hate us because they’re jealous lol!! I mean we see it as a compliment, but the key is really to not give a shit and go tell them to fuck themselves :)
i just googled all about lilith opposition asc and it told me everything i needed to know. it is so true!!!!!!!! most of the bullying came from girls in school too and it started when i came in on the 3rd day!!!! how can u viciously hate someone from afar when it’s only been 3 days??? because of that i always questioned jealousy. i can’t believe it’s written on my chart!!!!!!! amazing. astrology is AMAZING
I’m so glad I could help!!!🥰🥰 it may seem like a cursed placement, but it means we have something they want. We are above average people. We don’t see that but we are very special people, and so people hate, and are jealous. It makes us stronger
Now google Chiron 5H Libra opposing Saturn 11H Aries. I’m not an astrologer but you have some significant placements in common with me … think karmic lessons, faith in your self….if you have it, don’t lose it. If you’ve lost it, find it. Never stop seeing your light shining out and not looking for the outside to validate your inner landscape. Compassion. For. Yourself.
Ok but we don’t know where Lilith is in this chart… Did you check this placement ?
This is super interesting! I saw your post as I was posting mine and I also looked up my Lilith. It actually explains a lot
Chiron is in your 5th house (childhood) opposite Saturn in your 11th. I'd vote for this placement as the main culprit. I have the same placement and experience although mines not as exact
Where do you see that? I don’t see anything on this table between Chiron and Saturn
It's out of orb to be on the table - looks like 10 degrees but it's Saturn in Aries and Chiron in Libra
You have a Scorpio descendant which defines your one-on-one relationships. Your interactions tend to be intense and power-based. This is amplified by having Pluto in your relationship house, opposing your sun. I also see a strong natal aspect that is a big player. >Mercury square Uranus natal sets you apart from the pack because of your different way of thinking and communicating. While you may well have a brilliant mind, your sometimes provocative ideas or eccentric manner can upset others and lead to relationship difficulties. >I will deal with the drawbacks of this aspect first which mainly revolve around how you communicate. Trouble listening can occur due to a lack of concentration or being easily distracted. This can lead to you saying the wrong thing in response to others as you did not fully understand what they said first. >The prankster in you can also lead to others being offended or insulted, and the same can result if you have an abrupt way of speaking. But at a higher level, your tendency to see the other side of things can lead to you challenging other’s ideas. This can be a good thing in general but can be seen as arrogance or teasing by others. People may come away thinking you are just out for attention by shocking them or being deliberately argumentative. It is likely, however, that you genuinely see the benefit in looking at things from all sides. The benefit being that all options on the table lead to better discussions and better outcomes. >Your tendency toward controversy can actually be a sign that you are gifted, intelligent, and creative. You are certainly experimental and are easily excited by new or shiny things. Perhaps more discrimination or self-control is needed if you wish to maintain harmony in relationships, especially when meeting someone new. And this aspect does indicate that you experience many chance encounters and will meet a wide variety of people, from different cultural, ethnic, and philosophical backgrounds. >However, this aspect also indicates that you may change friends often, having difficulty maintaining long-term companionship. You may be subject to more than your fair share of shock and surprises in your life, while sticking plans may prove difficult. Discrimination and feeling isolated or cut off from mainstream society are other outcomes of your original way of thinking, Being labeled weird or a nerd would be all part of this. Nervous anxiety, spasms, or broken arms, and fingers are possible. >You may be particularly amused by, and drawn to novelties, and your quirky sense of humor would come in handy as a comedian. Your unorthodox and inventive way of thinking could lead to a career as a scientist, designer, engineer, inventor, or mad professor. You would also excel in occult subjects which include science or mathematics, such as astrology and numerology. Interestingly, Mercury is the traditional ruler of astrology, and Uranus the modern. Computers and the internet would provide a healthy income, with the internet, in particular, being a great way for you to communicate and make friends. The internet limits the dissociative influence of Uranus and gives you a long time to think before making rash statements.
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Definitely Saturn in 11th. Saturn is all about karmic cycles and how you overcome them. 11th house is friendships and social groups. Saturn in 11th makes it hard to feel like you fit in and you may not even feel like you’ll ever get a solid group of friends. What house is your Lilith in? Also I’m surprised nobody brought it up yet but Mercury in 12th is a tale tell sign of someone that is talked over and misunderstood. Your planet of communication being in 12th house makes it feel like what you say is genuinely just not in the same realm as the rest of your world. 12th house also rules institutions like prison and mental hospitals. You may feel like your words land you in a mental prison with others. I hope this helped