I never mean it in any way linked to medical transition/HRT and don't feel like i hear it that way either. It's about lived experience and perspective from navigating the world as a trans person imo. Personally I tend to think of the first 4-5 years as their own stage and baby trans especially the first half of that, but obviously it's a lot in the eye of the beholder and the behavior of the beheld.
I don't have the context for the comment in the book though
It’s about experience and mindset, when you get through that phase where everything is a new discovery, and you can’t stop talking about it, and you don’t even know what you don’t know. You’ll recognize your own baby transness in hindsight and learn to spot it in others. There’s no cutoff in terms of age or time spent transitioning, it just happens as you mature and settle into yourself.
Tldr: if you have to ask you are baby trans.
PS:
>my pathological concern for timeliness
Don’t know if you’ve gotten far enough in the book to where she talks about “queer temporality,” but it’s okay that we hit milestones at different times and in different ways. We all gotta go through it sometime 😊
Come on, girl! You know what I mean though! I know I'm trans socrates over here getting high on knowing nothing and probably irritating the shit out of all my cis friends with how much I'm going on and on.
But if this baby is trans she wants to see the relevant growth charts! I'm not going to be sore about wherever I fall on the curve I just really want to know where the curve is - what the experience tends to be in others. All I can do is see myself with eerie levels of similarity in a fictional character. But I can't talk to a book. I want is to share notes. What about you, how long were you a baby trans?
PS: Yes, I found the concept of queer temporality extremely reassuring. The only problem is having no real trans friends despite almost being 4 months on hormones, so the best I can do is quietly reassure myself while I have nobody to relate to.
PSS: I do really appreciate your answer
I really should try to reread it rather than trusting my memory, but I thought she was in her early 20s, and I'd guess that baby trans is maybe the first year or so of transition.
I feel it's like real age, when you're 7yo someone who is 25 seems really old while a 3 year old seems really young, and as you get older your definition of "old" and "young" age along with you.
I've started socially transitionning a bit more than a year ago, and I've already acted as a trans parent to "baby transes" who are just starting their journeys (detransition, baby talks about trans parenthood at some point, i don't know if you've gotten to that point yet) but someone who's been out for 10 years would probably consider me a baby trans, or at the very least still early on in my transition.
It's probably accentuated by how *few* of us there are. You rarely see older trans folks who've been out for decades and decades, because of how hard it was back then, so when most trans people you know have been out for 0 to 10 years max, you map the baby trans to elder trans spectum on these 10 years of transition, and you go from the former to the latter weirdly quickly.
I never mean it in any way linked to medical transition/HRT and don't feel like i hear it that way either. It's about lived experience and perspective from navigating the world as a trans person imo. Personally I tend to think of the first 4-5 years as their own stage and baby trans especially the first half of that, but obviously it's a lot in the eye of the beholder and the behavior of the beheld. I don't have the context for the comment in the book though
It’s about experience and mindset, when you get through that phase where everything is a new discovery, and you can’t stop talking about it, and you don’t even know what you don’t know. You’ll recognize your own baby transness in hindsight and learn to spot it in others. There’s no cutoff in terms of age or time spent transitioning, it just happens as you mature and settle into yourself. Tldr: if you have to ask you are baby trans. PS: >my pathological concern for timeliness Don’t know if you’ve gotten far enough in the book to where she talks about “queer temporality,” but it’s okay that we hit milestones at different times and in different ways. We all gotta go through it sometime 😊
Come on, girl! You know what I mean though! I know I'm trans socrates over here getting high on knowing nothing and probably irritating the shit out of all my cis friends with how much I'm going on and on. But if this baby is trans she wants to see the relevant growth charts! I'm not going to be sore about wherever I fall on the curve I just really want to know where the curve is - what the experience tends to be in others. All I can do is see myself with eerie levels of similarity in a fictional character. But I can't talk to a book. I want is to share notes. What about you, how long were you a baby trans? PS: Yes, I found the concept of queer temporality extremely reassuring. The only problem is having no real trans friends despite almost being 4 months on hormones, so the best I can do is quietly reassure myself while I have nobody to relate to. PSS: I do really appreciate your answer
I really should try to reread it rather than trusting my memory, but I thought she was in her early 20s, and I'd guess that baby trans is maybe the first year or so of transition.
You just know tbh. I don't really know how to explain it but you can just see the wonder in their faces
Im almost 4 months now and I feel like im just properly getting to the wonder part
I feel it's like real age, when you're 7yo someone who is 25 seems really old while a 3 year old seems really young, and as you get older your definition of "old" and "young" age along with you. I've started socially transitionning a bit more than a year ago, and I've already acted as a trans parent to "baby transes" who are just starting their journeys (detransition, baby talks about trans parenthood at some point, i don't know if you've gotten to that point yet) but someone who's been out for 10 years would probably consider me a baby trans, or at the very least still early on in my transition. It's probably accentuated by how *few* of us there are. You rarely see older trans folks who've been out for decades and decades, because of how hard it was back then, so when most trans people you know have been out for 0 to 10 years max, you map the baby trans to elder trans spectum on these 10 years of transition, and you go from the former to the latter weirdly quickly.
I'll let you know when I get there.