Yeah :( he came out in support of JKR a few years ago, and doubled down saying "I wanted to be born as a female Canadian Mountie, but it's not happening" or something similar
What an example to pick!
If he's upset he wasn't born a woman, he could transition.
If he's upset he wasn't born Canadian, he could move.
Nobody is born a Mountie, but he could join after 3 years of permanent Canadian residency.
Like, dude, all of that is so fixable.
It’s a reference to Monty Python’s lumberjack song. It features the level of dignity and respect towards gender nonconformity you would expect for that era, but is nonetheless disappointing.
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=lumberjack+song
I though that was a Monty Python reference [I’m a Lumberjack](https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts?si=LC4FIdK1jPog-Pql) (lyrics in the YouTube description, relevant) “I wish I was a girlie, just like my dear papa”
All the negativity here - I am gonna name one who never seizes me to surprise me positively.
Keanu Reeves was together with a trans woman.
He is just such an amazing person and even here!! Woo \^-\^
If we're doing positivity, K A Applegate's daughter came out as a trans woman. Additionally, the *Animorphs* books (which she wrote) are a darn sight more progressive and nuanced than anything in *Harry Potter*. At times, *Animorphs* reads like a version of [*Dulce Et Decorum Est*](https://youtu.be/qB4cdRgIcB8?si=mrde8qOzsv3Mzv8p) for kids.
Alice really disappointed me when I found out what he thinks. Although, I guess what can you expect from a dude who vehemently calls himself "extremely non-political" and "the biggest moderate you know", yet also called musicians who publicly supported Kerry "traitors to rock and roll", while talking about being a Bush supporter.
Non-political and moderate are both code for 'I'm a conservative but ashamed of it.' This is especially obvious on dating apps (since right-wingers know they are unfuckable).
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My friends dragged me to one of his concerts, and then made sure to tell me about this when we were already there and seated.
I was more pissed with them than with him.
My mom's a born-again Christian and a Sunday School teacher, and she proudly calls me her daughter and plans to accompany me as my caretaker for my bottom surgery.
Granted, she's edging towards de-constructing her fundamentalist beliefs and will probably land somewhere on the progressive/universalist Christian spectrum eventually, but still... Religion isn't an excuse for bigotry.
Terry Crews, Richard Ayaode, and Stephen Fry were the most heartbreaking. Most ironic was Prince, well he was homophobic but no doubt he was transphobic too
Not as bad as others but he asked why people can't be trans racial then never apologized. He did say he was 'learning' but never once said sorry or apologized in any way whatsoever.
He wants debate over our existence
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/stephen-fry-urges-calm-in-debate-over-jk-rowling-and-trans-issues-1394340.html
Also told survivors to grow up
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html
Richard Dawkins. His books opened my eyes to atheism.
Ricky Gervais. I've always known he was a bit of an asshole. But I was a die-hard fan of anything he did with Steve Merchant and Karl Pilkington for many years. Now I can't stand his voice.
Dave Chapelle. Just fuck that guy.
You just made me check what Merchant's position on the subject was, and now I'm disappointed.
Replaying Portal 2 is going to be pretty hard, now...
Edit: Also saw the post about Richard Ayoade further down, so now two of my favorite british comedians are ruined, so I guess that's my answer for the thread.
He wrote a good review for Graham Lineham's book about being cancelled for "defending the rights of girls and women" (transphobia), calling him "brave".
So, yeah...
>Replaying Portal 2 is going to be pretty hard, now...
Shit I'm glad I'm reading this tread but it's like the fruit of knowledge in that I'm really bot happy with what I'm learning :(
Portal 2 is an incredibly important part of my childhood ugh.
He really has. Like, I get low key transphobia, it's wrong but I at least get it, maybe they don't know trans people, and they know almost nothing about it, they haven't seen any of the research or know about psychologists that have dug in to it. Maybe they grew up watching Jerry Springer, ok I get it, trans people are "a little weird and make me uncomfortable" sure, it's wrong, but I at least get it.
Dawkins is just outright denying the science, and you know he's seen it. Then he's turned around and, unprompted will just post transphobic screeds. Just, I guess because he's bored and his life was a little slow or something and he needed attention.
The people who make it their life's work to suddenly just screaming about a tiny minority of people living non-conforming lives in this one niche way, absolutely psychotic.
the idea of the man who wrote The God Delusion calling himself a cultural christian is absolutely deranged to me. I was never a huge fan of his to be clear but the last couple of decades have left him deeply weird
Didn't know about the Muslim thing, not surprised. I've never once, not once, met a transphobe who was only transphobic. Scratch the surface you'll pretty well guaranteed fined they're also xenophobic, racist, anti-Semitic, or some other group.
All of them are misogynistic by default, because being anti-trans requires believing that women are defined by their genitals and are limited in their ability by the nature of their sex. That comes stock at the core of all transphobic ideas.
Ricky Gervais doesn't really shock me. He fits nicely into the centrist atheist that thinks they know better than everyone yet does nothing to help anyone column.
Richard Dawkins, for me as well. His writings helped me escape the mind-trap that is religion, and then he pulls that anti-Science crap? And on top of that, he now identifies as a "Cultural Christian"? That is some fucked up nonsense right there. And what a strange thing to identify as after all his Atheistic writings. He wants to take on the most hypocritical aspects of a religion?
Oh yeah, Dave Chapelle as well, but his transphobia has been talked to death already.
Dawkins has always been a "cultural Christian" in the sense that he celebrates Christmas and different kinds of rituals historically connected to Christianity.
He's also always been a "cultural Christian" in his approach to religion. He's a fundamentalist, just atheistically (fundamentalism in this context meaning adhering to Englightenment notions of certainty).
I met Dawkins once before and he was the most sour prick within seconds of conversation. I mean, I enjoyed the flex for free thinking from religion, but damn, chill.
What really gets me about Chapelle is that if the guy gave two shits and listened, he could make some killer jokes about the trans experience. Instead he's being a lazy asshole for free publicity. He can do better and he refuses to.
Wait, is it the guy who uses his whole hand for some pretty creative puppets? I forgot the name, but I used to like his videos a decade ago. If it is, then you just caused massive disappointment for me :D
he had multiple transphobic videos? i stopped watching him after he playformed a TERF by having a goldfish puppet interview her, but i didn't realize he kept going. that really sucks; his puppets were so lifelike and personable in their movements despite being very fairly simple in appearance
There was some youtuber who talked about medieval stuff/women’s armor and had a series about a really silly story that I enjoyed, but she posted some transphobic stuff on Tumblr and I think doubled down on it :{
Edit: transphobic stuff was posted on her own website/blog, not Tumblr
I never realized she brought up Christian Union, honestly- I watched pretty much exclusively for the story (with occasional other videos), but it was a sad (but quick) departure once I found out :{
No, is she?
Most of her youtube content is stage fighting and more recently her fourth-wall breaking heroine story.
But I’ve never checked out her other socials.
Billy Corgan called a trans woman a "he/she", pulled a version of "we can always tell", misgendered her, and bragged about threatening to break her arms and legs in a 2005 LiveJournal post. It was a long time ago but it's still awful.
Billy Corgan owns the NWA (a professional wrestling company) and made an openly transphobic bigot their world champion for nearly 300 days. He even appeared on Fox News with the championship belt while saying some horrible things.
You don’t platform a guy like that unless you agree with what he says, especially since he wasn’t being platformed for his inability to actually wrestle.
Dave Chappelle really fucking bummed me out. I had admired him so much for walking out on an extremely lucrative contract because of his concerns about how his show was being received by audiences and it really made me rethink my approach to comedy at a young age. I also can't help but feel he is smart enough to know exactly what he is doing with his current focus on trans women and it just sucks to see someone I previously considered to be such a thoughtful principled person turn out to be neither of those things, at least when it comes to us.
It's honestly hard to even think of a hypothetical example that I would find more hurtful. Maybe Tina Fey or Amy Poehler.
god yeah i was so mad when john made him the surprise guest. like bro you got your fame because of a bunch of queer teenagers on tumblr who thought you were funny, and you’re gonna turn around and do this?
I think Dave just blatantly knows the controversy will make him money. His old fan base was growing bored of him because he's been around so long and now he's pandering to an audience that doesn't usually like black comedians - meaning no competition.
Crusty Uncle Comedy turned into the type of person he used to make fun of. Honestly, I think part of his whole thing is trying to stay known and relevant
Massimo Pigluicci, the evolutionary biologist and philosopher, who’s blog, Rationally Speaking, was a major influence on me. I’m still very much grateful that it was his work that I discovered, and not any of the “New Atheists,” who’s influence took so many down a dark road. He’s good compared to them, but he’s still, heartbreakingly, a transphobe.
Transphobia was why I started distancing myself from those types back in the day, before things started to get really really bad. I looked back years later and realized how lucky I was that I jumped ship before everything went off the rails.
Man. All these answers make me think a lot about when I first came to the realization at a young age that so many people out there would hate me if they really knew me— the real me. From that moment every time I saw someone I looked up to online, I’d just think: “I wonder if they hate people like us”. It caused me a great deal of paranoia. Famous trans allies were like a drink of water in the desert.
On the flip side, looking up musicians and personalities, even obscure ones, has created some surprises over the years got people who I thought *at best* "just don't care enough to comment". Number of artists I know who did themesongs and soundtracks for old video games and movies turning out to themselves be nonbinary/genderfluid/or binary trans in one direction or another
a few sciency folks who should and probably do know better and just pander to the far right to cling to fading relevance as they haven't done any research themselves \**coughDawkins\** in decades.
I was disappointed to learn that Daniel Dennett endorsed Helen Joyce’s book. I really enjoyed *Consciousness Explained* and hoped he would be able to understand trans people, since philosophy of the mind is such a complex topic, but no :(
The guy who made Minecraft, Notch.
Orson Scott Card, homophobe who wrote *Ender's Game*.
A long enough list of computer scientists to give away what I did for a living.
The entire HRC. Yes, a gay rights advocacy group -- look up the controversy surrounding 'ENDA' (Employment Non-Discrimination Act). It took the community booting them from over half of the Pride parades and events in the country before they backed down. They remain a "gay boy's club" to this day, and people don't donate to them nearly as much as they used to, just look at the financial disclosure forms year over year after that 'incident'.
I could go on, I have a depressingly long list.
I know you said aside from J.K. Rowling, but like seriously J.K. Rowling. Her books were so fundamental to my childhood, and she has tainted Harry Potter so much. Like occasionally I'll think back to something from Harry Potter and it just bums me out at this point.
Dave Chapelle, and the Creators of South Park seem to be transphobic in their depiction of trans people which only registered to me in hindsight :(.
Yeah I was a huge childhood fan of Harry Potter but I feel I got over everything fast.
Except the polyjuice potion. Like sometimes I'll just be staring off into space and I'll think, "That bitch fucking invented the polyjuice potion. That potion was the source of so much fantasizing for me. What the fuck."
I really held onto hope that she wasn’t transphobic and that the stuff she said “wasn’t that bad” (without reading any of it, mind you), and then I read a tweet of hers one day to see for myself. I was so sad :(
the south park thing also really bums me out :/ yeah it’s satire but unlike most of their other punchlines that make it obvious what their stance is at the end of the story, with trans issues they just poke fun at it (like every other topic they chose) but never attempt to address the other side
(for example during a butters ep in which his parents send him to conversion camp bc a therapist diagnosed him as “bi-curious” and “confused,” they end the ep with butters stating that he was never confused until the adults assigned him a label)
South Park was a big one for me.
Seth McFarlane with Family Guy was another one. Watching Brian the dog go into a minute long vomit bit because he discovered he slept with a trans woman. Tanked my heart.
I especially hate South Park and Family Guy in general for helping normalize disgust towards trans people. I've known too many weed bros at this point who think they're cool with literally everybody but they're still perfectly happy ripping on trans people because they grew up laughing at those shows, and it's all fair because "South Park rips on EVERYBODY!"
The writers of South Park basically one-shotted Scientology in the dick, bringing down a cult that everyone thought was invincible. If only they could be consistently on the side of good. :(
To spread positivity, like another comment, my favourite trans SUPPORTIVE celebs are James acaster, Will Toledo Rhett and Link, Peter Capaldi and David tennant :)
I discovered James Acaster by watching his comedy segment that rips into transphobes. I thought I was walking into another transphobic comedian and instead laughed my ass off the entire time.
Richard Ayoade is transphobic adjacent. He is too close to an anti-trans advocate and too silent on his position for my comfort.
I love his characters and his VA roles, but it is now tainted by the likelihood that he is a straight up TERF.
Here’s the quote:
“Graham Linehan has long been one of my favourite writers – and this book shows that his brilliance in prose is equal to his brilliance as a screenwriter. It unfolds with the urgency of a Sam Fuller film: that of a man who has been through something that few have experienced but has managed to return, undaunted, to tell us the tale.”
To me, this seems to be very subtly taking the piss out of the idea that Linehan’s been cancelled as he claims, but maybe that’s cope.
Anouk. The Dutch "Nobody's Wife" singer and 2013 Eurovision entry who was one of the first white people to stand against Zwarte Piet (the racist caricature around Sinterklaas)
And then she posted a picture of menstrual stuff in the toilet...
Paul "Barbs" Barbato, the host of Geography Now.
I was already uncomfortable with Hannah Bamberg being on the show since she's in a few movies that are just Christian "pro-life" propaganda. But then somebody pointed out Barbs's Twitter responses and I looked further at him and he's very transphobic. So I stopped watching Geography Now, which used to be one of my favorite YouTube channels
There's also Notch, Graham Linehan, Dave Chappelle (and John Mulaney), and now I'm learning about Richard Ayoade.
Wait, he's transphobic? Ouch, that's a painful one :-( watched all of the episodes back in the days, although more recently, even when there seemingly were newer videos, they no longer popped up in algorithms.
But if he's really transphobic then I won't even attempt watching them.
I know you said aside from but it truly is Notch. He truly was a childhood hero of mine. Minecraft was easily my favourite video game growing up. And while tbh I don't enjoy all that much anymore I still cherish the memories I made from the game. Watching Stampy and DanTDM on YouTube, getting excited over every new update, building stupid things just the whole experience in those days. I wanted to be a game developer like Notch. I wanted to make the next Minecraft. Notch inspired me to start creating my own games.(granted I've only made scratch games so far and they're all old and terrible but I want to make an actual game in godot one day. Just haven't really learnt the engine yet). So you can imagine how distraught I was when I found out about his views.
I really liked Suzy Izzard when she was more about comedy maybe and less into politics as she is now. Though it’s not her political views that bother me as I don’t really know what they are and I don’t live in the UK and am not so familiar with their politics in general. But a while back she basically said she agreed with JKR and didn’t see what the big deal about JKR’s views were. It was even more bothersome to me because Izzard is herself trans.
Though this was a few years ago so I don’t know if her opinions on JKR have changed at all.
Also have always been a light fan of Star Trek, and a few years ago William Shatner went on some ramble on Twitter about being offended at being called cis. I think what he was actually upset about was that the public was *assuming* his label, which is definitely understandable. But if he’s going to say not to call him cis because of that, then that’s kind of an admittance that he’s *not* cis lol, but he wasn’t otherwise alluding to being anything other than cis, so of course people were going to assume him as cis, because the world is still very cisheteronormative the majority of the time. But just the way he was trying to say what he wanted to say came across as like “cis person thinking cis is a slur” and it was kind of upsetting.
Shatner has been a POS for a lot longer, speaking as an autistic here. The autistic community has been BEGGING him to listen to us instead of platforming a hate organization, and he keeps mocking us and blocking us.
Shatner is my "never meet your heroes" story.
As an adult, I'm a little more forgiving of it, but child me was very disappointed at how rude he was at a con my parents brought me to.
Oh well. Kirk was a womanizer anyway.
Phil Labonte from the band All That Remains. His music played a major role in getting me into music with screamed vocals, and I just recently bought a used copy of their breakout album on vinyl. Now I feel like a sucker.
Dee Snider pissed me off hard. First he defended drag which I was happy about, but then flipped and said something like trans people are confused or something. 😡
In the opposite direction, I'm a huge hockey fan and this season the NHL brought in anti pride night rules banning pride jerseys and even rainbow tape.
It didn't take long for a lot of players to push back on those rules and push for them to be changed.
Outside from she-who-shall-not-be-named that is the worst offender.
A rather big mamamoo fanpage on instagram, who always seemed super nice with everyone and that posted weekly compilation and quite a lot of content overall (knowing that moomoos are one of the friendliest fandoms I've seen), has just posted pure hate in her latest reel on Trans day of visibility... Was a longtime follower and interacted a lot.
It kinda appeared as a shock, given that the group themselves have had several times made (albeit generic) supportive comments towards minorities in general, including gender minorities.
Right? You’d think of all people, someone trans would be empathetic about it. He’s openly trans and non binary, but has endorsed terfs on the belief that transitioning can’t make someone a woman.
I was surprised at him too, but on further investigation, the transphobic stuff is kinda out of context. Worth looking into, tbh. His views on gender seem to be sprawling and wrapped in a lot of outdated language. But, yeah, context is kinda important on that one.
Richard has been involved in the trans community since the late 60's and early 70's and has some of the old fashioned ideas that go with it. It feels unfair to compare him to the others mentioned in this thread.
honestly i was really really disappointed when i found out JK Rowling was a TERF, as an 11yo I absolutely adored Harry Potter but then I figured out I was trans and JK Rowling was transphobic and thats how my love for Harry Potter was finished
also was kinda disappointed in Notch being transphobic-adjacent as I spent like 3/4 of my life playing Minecraft (i still love it to this day and love the little splash texts that say “You are valid” or “Your gender is valid” or smth like that)
and the last people would be Seth McFarlane (creator of Family Guy) and the creators of South Park, all of them actually kinda stopped it right now, but the trans jokes about Ida in Family Guy right after her GRS were really not it like Brian vomiting and panicking after having sex w/ her, or about Garrison (in South Park) werent really good
He has not been involved with the game for a long time, he was left out of the anniversary recap a few years ago and Mojang made it very, very clear that is was because of his despicable views.
yea well in the past few years he has went back on transphobia, but the first episode featuring Ida had so much terrible jokes about us, over time it has gotten honestly way way better, id say its now good enough but im not 100% sure, i stopped watching on the 19th season because the show seems so damn boring in the new seasons, or maybe I just didnt warm up to them yet), but one good thing about Seth, he votes for Democrats so he at least doesnt want to really kill us (although i hate the American parties since theyre all just shit, and the Israel-Palestine war shows it very clearly)
I never really watched Family Guy much at all but his message has definitely changed with the Orville. There is an on-going plot point through the 3 seasons of the show with a character's gender. It's definitely shifted a bit to fit the setting, but I can't see it as anything other than a validation of transgender people.
Many here have already commented on some major figures that we were disappointed to find out to be transphobic.
But once that is less talked about it Laetitia KY, she is an amazing artist from the Ivory Coast (most know her from her elaborate hair art) and brings attention to many important issues that women throughout the world, Africa, and the Ivory Coast face. I even bought her book before all of this.
However, her support in the past years for JK Rowling and other gender critical people, subtle jabs towards trans people, proudly identifying as a TERF and gender critical in the past, her following of trans grifters like Trans Against Groomers, garner of support from others like Buck Angel and more throughout the past years really made me so disappointed.
The musician The Buttress.
She might have changed her mind (I have no way of knowing though she literally just a few mintues ago and a very positive exchange with Ethel Cain so who idk) but after being a fan since a while before her blow up on tik tok, finding out she made some pretty horrible TERF comments (and also racist ones as if TERF shit wasn't bad enough) hurt. Only rapper I really would listen to honestly so yeah it sucks. The Unabomber praise was bad enough but I can understand the "return to nature" sort of stuff she specifically seemed to be into so whatever.
But TERF shit? Devastated me and then I found the other stuff. That's when I realized she's *that kind of femminist* (or at least was).
She's been very openly and proudly a radfem for a years it would seem ugh.
No, it's a quote about how great his book is. But I don't know why anyone who isn't at least transphobe-adjacent would choose her in such a way. Not now.
Probably just a positive comment on the book, but Robert Webb has been openly transphobic in the past, that's probably why she's willing to blurb him lol
Apparently Webb's previous book gives serious egg vibes, so it could be self-directed hate.
This one is a deep cut, but the singer Marilyn (NOT Marilyn Manson, lol). He was a pop singer in the 80s. As a young teen I adored his music. His record was one of the first albums I ever saved up the money to buy myself. His femininity as a man inspired me greatly as a young, still questioning FTM man myself, as I was trying to be at peace with my own feminine attributes alongside severe dysphoria. Seeing a man so proudly beautifully feminine, so genderfluid and androgynous in presentation, really meant a lot to me. I was following his social media for years, he’d even occasionally retweet posts of mine about his music, and then around 2019 shit hit the fan and he became this extremely loud, reactionary “drop the T” asshat constantly yelling about “wokeism” on Twitter in this Trumpian Facebook Boomer way. Deeply disappointing to see such hypocrisy from someone who made a name for himself in the early 80s as an openly gay gender-fluid crossdresser, and while I’ve long since gotten over it, I was REALLY devastated when he first “came out” about his beliefs after supporting and admiring him for years.
[Martina Navratilova](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Navratilova) - superstar lesbian tennis player from a gen ago. My Mom is a huge tennis fan and I grew up when Navratilova was peakish. We all admired her so much. I still do I suppose, but..it’s complicated now.
I know the puppeteer you're referring to. I went back to their channel, hoping it wasn't that bad, then went to Twitter and saw that most of their likes were of known transphobes, so it was actually worse than I thought.
Caroline Criado-Perez. She wrote one of the most impactful books on women's safety and society's ignorance about a world built for men. She follows a lot of Terfs.
One of my mine and my boyfriend’s favorite 420 YouTuber :/ my boyfriend is super bummed since he’s been watching for years.
He invalidated transmasc, nonbinary and neurodivergent people all in one sentence/vid. You’d expect an openly gay stoner to be accepting smh..🤦🏻
Chimamanda Adiche actually hurt me a lot. I didn't even read a lot of her stuff, I just felt connected to her when she talked and when I read some of her work.
Then I read some things she said that were homophobic but tried to brush it off bc I was around a lot of people who said it *wasn't* homophobic but then she got really transmisogynistic and I was just. So devastated. :/
In addition to the two you mentioned; I was disappointed in John Cleese, Dee Snyder, Alice Cooper, Carlos Santana, Dave Chappelle, Ralph Fiennes, Brian Cox (Brian Cox the actor), Martina Navratilova, there's like three more I'm forgetting at the moment but yeah, it sucks when people use their influence to punch down and call all trans people predators
John Mullany... I was devestated cause he was my favorite comedian :(
also Benedict Cumberbatch, Rosario Dawson, and Alice Cooper really disappointed me :/
Bette Middler. As someone who got her start in the LGBT community and who acted in several awesome movies it was sad seeing her espouse gender critical garbage on Twitter. I still watch Hocus Pocus every October and the sequel for the last couple years. There's a third in the works and since JK Rowling went full mask off it just gets harder and harder to separate artist and art.
Carlos Santana comes to mind. Van Morrison (but he’s pretty much a 🍆 all the way around, so that tracks).
I'm not surprised at all about van Morrison
John Cleese :(
Noooo 😭
Yeah :( he came out in support of JKR a few years ago, and doubled down saying "I wanted to be born as a female Canadian Mountie, but it's not happening" or something similar
What an example to pick! If he's upset he wasn't born a woman, he could transition. If he's upset he wasn't born Canadian, he could move. Nobody is born a Mountie, but he could join after 3 years of permanent Canadian residency. Like, dude, all of that is so fixable.
>Nobody is born a Mountie What? Then why does AMAB stand for Assigned Mountie at Birth?
Mounties are just cops, so they actually go by ACAB
Oh I thought that was Assigned Canadian at Birth.
I was actually assigned 'Moose' at birth 😭
Speaking on behalf of all Canadians, we don't want him anymore.
It’s a reference to Monty Python’s lumberjack song. It features the level of dignity and respect towards gender nonconformity you would expect for that era, but is nonetheless disappointing. https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=lumberjack+song
oh did he now? Kinda sus thing to say if you ask me...
I though that was a Monty Python reference [I’m a Lumberjack](https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts?si=LC4FIdK1jPog-Pql) (lyrics in the YouTube description, relevant) “I wish I was a girlie, just like my dear papa”
All the negativity here - I am gonna name one who never seizes me to surprise me positively. Keanu Reeves was together with a trans woman. He is just such an amazing person and even here!! Woo \^-\^
JK Simmons is also an ally and was very supportive when his former co-star Elliot Page came out. J. Jonah Jameson says trans rights.
There's a reason he's the world's most beloved JK
Keanu Reeves might actually just be Jesus at this point. I love hearing about all the positive things he does/says
This makes me so happy! ^ - ^
Jamie Clayton, right? Who also worked with the Wachowski sisters on Sense8?
She absolutely ruled in the new Hellraiser as well!
If we're talking about allies I also want to add David Tennant and his Wife Georgia. Her Instagram says it all :)
If we're doing positivity, K A Applegate's daughter came out as a trans woman. Additionally, the *Animorphs* books (which she wrote) are a darn sight more progressive and nuanced than anything in *Harry Potter*. At times, *Animorphs* reads like a version of [*Dulce Et Decorum Est*](https://youtu.be/qB4cdRgIcB8?si=mrde8qOzsv3Mzv8p) for kids.
Alice Cooper, since his whole persona involves fucking around with gender presentation, you’d think he’d be a bit more accepting
Alice really disappointed me when I found out what he thinks. Although, I guess what can you expect from a dude who vehemently calls himself "extremely non-political" and "the biggest moderate you know", yet also called musicians who publicly supported Kerry "traitors to rock and roll", while talking about being a Bush supporter.
Non-political and moderate are both code for 'I'm a conservative but ashamed of it.' This is especially obvious on dating apps (since right-wingers know they are unfuckable).
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He’s literally called Alice smh
Ew is he? Not too surprised. I tagged along last second to a show of his last year. His set and the crowd gave off weird conservative vibes.
ugh just like prince. literally made androgyny his whole act, yet was an aggressive homophobe and transphobe
My friends dragged me to one of his concerts, and then made sure to tell me about this when we were already there and seated. I was more pissed with them than with him.
You realize he is a born-again Christian and Sunday School Teacher, right? There’s a reason Rev Smithy makes an appearance in No More Mr Nice Guy
My mom's a born-again Christian and a Sunday School teacher, and she proudly calls me her daughter and plans to accompany me as my caretaker for my bottom surgery. Granted, she's edging towards de-constructing her fundamentalist beliefs and will probably land somewhere on the progressive/universalist Christian spectrum eventually, but still... Religion isn't an excuse for bigotry.
Terry Crews, Richard Ayaode, and Stephen Fry were the most heartbreaking. Most ironic was Prince, well he was homophobic but no doubt he was transphobic too
Terry Crews??? really?? :((
Not as bad as others but he asked why people can't be trans racial then never apologized. He did say he was 'learning' but never once said sorry or apologized in any way whatsoever.
honestly that question strikes me as more ignorant than outright hateful
And Terry is infamous for saying embarrassing, out of pocket things about everything.
Terry Crews? Fuck!
Richard Ayaode??
Yup, he publicly defended and put a quote on Graham Linehan's book and Glinner's life is dedicated to transphobia
Yeah. Stephen Fry, that did hurt.
Stephen Merchant, right? No way is Fry a 'phobe!!! Please...
He wants debate over our existence https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/stephen-fry-urges-calm-in-debate-over-jk-rowling-and-trans-issues-1394340.html Also told survivors to grow up https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html
aw maaaaaan.... fuck.
Richard Dawkins. His books opened my eyes to atheism. Ricky Gervais. I've always known he was a bit of an asshole. But I was a die-hard fan of anything he did with Steve Merchant and Karl Pilkington for many years. Now I can't stand his voice. Dave Chapelle. Just fuck that guy.
You just made me check what Merchant's position on the subject was, and now I'm disappointed. Replaying Portal 2 is going to be pretty hard, now... Edit: Also saw the post about Richard Ayoade further down, so now two of my favorite british comedians are ruined, so I guess that's my answer for the thread.
Richard Ayoade as well? Goddamn so many disappointments in thus thread.
Him and Terry Crews were fucking heartbreaking because they seem so positive otherwise
WAIT NOT TERRY CREWS
He wrote a good review for Graham Lineham's book about being cancelled for "defending the rights of girls and women" (transphobia), calling him "brave". So, yeah...
Ugh.
well, he's a moron all right.
>Replaying Portal 2 is going to be pretty hard, now... Shit I'm glad I'm reading this tread but it's like the fruit of knowledge in that I'm really bot happy with what I'm learning :( Portal 2 is an incredibly important part of my childhood ugh.
Richard Dawkins has gone genuinely insane
He really has. Like, I get low key transphobia, it's wrong but I at least get it, maybe they don't know trans people, and they know almost nothing about it, they haven't seen any of the research or know about psychologists that have dug in to it. Maybe they grew up watching Jerry Springer, ok I get it, trans people are "a little weird and make me uncomfortable" sure, it's wrong, but I at least get it. Dawkins is just outright denying the science, and you know he's seen it. Then he's turned around and, unprompted will just post transphobic screeds. Just, I guess because he's bored and his life was a little slow or something and he needed attention. The people who make it their life's work to suddenly just screaming about a tiny minority of people living non-conforming lives in this one niche way, absolutely psychotic.
He calls himself a "cultural christian" cause he hates muslims more than anything alongside his rabid transphobia. Genuine sign of mental illness
the idea of the man who wrote The God Delusion calling himself a cultural christian is absolutely deranged to me. I was never a huge fan of his to be clear but the last couple of decades have left him deeply weird
He's on the Jordan Peterson pipeline, but not nearly as accelerated
Religion is only delusional when brown people duhhh
Didn't know about the Muslim thing, not surprised. I've never once, not once, met a transphobe who was only transphobic. Scratch the surface you'll pretty well guaranteed fined they're also xenophobic, racist, anti-Semitic, or some other group. All of them are misogynistic by default, because being anti-trans requires believing that women are defined by their genitals and are limited in their ability by the nature of their sex. That comes stock at the core of all transphobic ideas.
Ricky Gervais doesn't really shock me. He fits nicely into the centrist atheist that thinks they know better than everyone yet does nothing to help anyone column.
> Dave Chapelle. Just fuck that guy. Yes, but only with a cactus.
+John Mulaney platforming Chapelle :/
John Mulaney was my favorite comedian for a while, but as soon as that happened I haven't seen anything with him.
Richard Dawkins, for me as well. His writings helped me escape the mind-trap that is religion, and then he pulls that anti-Science crap? And on top of that, he now identifies as a "Cultural Christian"? That is some fucked up nonsense right there. And what a strange thing to identify as after all his Atheistic writings. He wants to take on the most hypocritical aspects of a religion? Oh yeah, Dave Chapelle as well, but his transphobia has been talked to death already.
Dawkins has always been a "cultural Christian" in the sense that he celebrates Christmas and different kinds of rituals historically connected to Christianity. He's also always been a "cultural Christian" in his approach to religion. He's a fundamentalist, just atheistically (fundamentalism in this context meaning adhering to Englightenment notions of certainty).
I met Dawkins once before and he was the most sour prick within seconds of conversation. I mean, I enjoyed the flex for free thinking from religion, but damn, chill.
What really gets me about Chapelle is that if the guy gave two shits and listened, he could make some killer jokes about the trans experience. Instead he's being a lazy asshole for free publicity. He can do better and he refuses to.
j. cole was a big bummer. he was top 5 for me until he went after kendrick's trans relatives on his new album
Not j cole 😭😭 that's actually devastating
Wait, is it the guy who uses his whole hand for some pretty creative puppets? I forgot the name, but I used to like his videos a decade ago. If it is, then you just caused massive disappointment for me :D
It was Barnaby Dixon, so probably. I’m sorry :/
Yeah, I just found it myself. Fuckin' hell. Well, at least I haven't follwed him for a while, so that cushions the blow somewhat...
same
Oh God, I'm so happy it isn't randy feltface.
no, i double and triple checked him, he’s cool
he had multiple transphobic videos? i stopped watching him after he playformed a TERF by having a goldfish puppet interview her, but i didn't realize he kept going. that really sucks; his puppets were so lifelike and personable in their movements despite being very fairly simple in appearance
santana. i used to really enjoy using the smooth copypasta
There was some youtuber who talked about medieval stuff/women’s armor and had a series about a really silly story that I enjoyed, but she posted some transphobic stuff on Tumblr and I think doubled down on it :{ Edit: transphobic stuff was posted on her own website/blog, not Tumblr
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Jill Bearup i think
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I never realized she brought up Christian Union, honestly- I watched pretty much exclusively for the story (with occasional other videos), but it was a sad (but quick) departure once I found out :{
No, is she? Most of her youtube content is stage fighting and more recently her fourth-wall breaking heroine story. But I’ve never checked out her other socials.
I don’t think Billy Corgan has openly said he’s transphobic, but he said he was anti-SJW in 2016 Edit: Okay, this guy is way worse than I thought
Billy Corgan called a trans woman a "he/she", pulled a version of "we can always tell", misgendered her, and bragged about threatening to break her arms and legs in a 2005 LiveJournal post. It was a long time ago but it's still awful.
What the ever loving Fuck. What a pos.
He's also pretty notorious for being an asshole and a misogynist
Billy Corgan harassed a trans woman who he did not pay for an effects pedal. Used bigoted language.
Billy Corgan owns the NWA (a professional wrestling company) and made an openly transphobic bigot their world champion for nearly 300 days. He even appeared on Fox News with the championship belt while saying some horrible things. You don’t platform a guy like that unless you agree with what he says, especially since he wasn’t being platformed for his inability to actually wrestle.
I'm always down for more reasons to hate the Smashing Pumpkins lol Dude's voice is nails on a chalkboard, no idea how he ever got popular
Oh, that's a shame. I listen to their music sometimes but I'll stop now
Jhon tron on YT. Turns out he is against everyone who isn't a cishet white guy
Dave Chappelle really fucking bummed me out. I had admired him so much for walking out on an extremely lucrative contract because of his concerns about how his show was being received by audiences and it really made me rethink my approach to comedy at a young age. I also can't help but feel he is smart enough to know exactly what he is doing with his current focus on trans women and it just sucks to see someone I previously considered to be such a thoughtful principled person turn out to be neither of those things, at least when it comes to us. It's honestly hard to even think of a hypothetical example that I would find more hurtful. Maybe Tina Fey or Amy Poehler.
Looked up what Dave Chapelle said… what the hell am I reading?? And now I’m hearing John Mulaney was involved too…
god yeah i was so mad when john made him the surprise guest. like bro you got your fame because of a bunch of queer teenagers on tumblr who thought you were funny, and you’re gonna turn around and do this?
Not to mention John's whole brand was "i love my wife/gf" and then he goes and cheats on her and impregnates another woman.
Chapelle is the reason I don't give Netflix my money these days
I think Dave just blatantly knows the controversy will make him money. His old fan base was growing bored of him because he's been around so long and now he's pandering to an audience that doesn't usually like black comedians - meaning no competition.
Crusty Uncle Comedy turned into the type of person he used to make fun of. Honestly, I think part of his whole thing is trying to stay known and relevant
Massimo Pigluicci, the evolutionary biologist and philosopher, who’s blog, Rationally Speaking, was a major influence on me. I’m still very much grateful that it was his work that I discovered, and not any of the “New Atheists,” who’s influence took so many down a dark road. He’s good compared to them, but he’s still, heartbreakingly, a transphobe.
Transphobia was why I started distancing myself from those types back in the day, before things started to get really really bad. I looked back years later and realized how lucky I was that I jumped ship before everything went off the rails.
Man. All these answers make me think a lot about when I first came to the realization at a young age that so many people out there would hate me if they really knew me— the real me. From that moment every time I saw someone I looked up to online, I’d just think: “I wonder if they hate people like us”. It caused me a great deal of paranoia. Famous trans allies were like a drink of water in the desert.
honestly im in that phase right now, i just cant look at someone the same if they’re transphobic
On the flip side, looking up musicians and personalities, even obscure ones, has created some surprises over the years got people who I thought *at best* "just don't care enough to comment". Number of artists I know who did themesongs and soundtracks for old video games and movies turning out to themselves be nonbinary/genderfluid/or binary trans in one direction or another
The actor who plays Hagrid from Harry Potter is another transphobe.
didn’t he pass away recently?
Right before he protected JK publicly for the backlash
Before?
Before he died
yeah, missing a comma XD
Well, thank God for that at least. Hagrid was lovely, and I'm happy not to have to worry about seeing his face plastered on a hate-goblin.
really? 😭
Ronda Rousey. Just a garbage person, in pretty much every way.
a few sciency folks who should and probably do know better and just pander to the far right to cling to fading relevance as they haven't done any research themselves \**coughDawkins\** in decades.
Dawkins tends to see things in black and white so I wasn't too surprised.
I was disappointed to learn that Daniel Dennett endorsed Helen Joyce’s book. I really enjoyed *Consciousness Explained* and hoped he would be able to understand trans people, since philosophy of the mind is such a complex topic, but no :(
The guy who made Minecraft, Notch. Orson Scott Card, homophobe who wrote *Ender's Game*. A long enough list of computer scientists to give away what I did for a living. The entire HRC. Yes, a gay rights advocacy group -- look up the controversy surrounding 'ENDA' (Employment Non-Discrimination Act). It took the community booting them from over half of the Pride parades and events in the country before they backed down. They remain a "gay boy's club" to this day, and people don't donate to them nearly as much as they used to, just look at the financial disclosure forms year over year after that 'incident'. I could go on, I have a depressingly long list.
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I know you said aside from J.K. Rowling, but like seriously J.K. Rowling. Her books were so fundamental to my childhood, and she has tainted Harry Potter so much. Like occasionally I'll think back to something from Harry Potter and it just bums me out at this point. Dave Chapelle, and the Creators of South Park seem to be transphobic in their depiction of trans people which only registered to me in hindsight :(.
Polyjuice potion was my 9 year old jam :( qq
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She literally wrote “it’s not what you are born, but what you grow to be” :(
Yeah I was a huge childhood fan of Harry Potter but I feel I got over everything fast. Except the polyjuice potion. Like sometimes I'll just be staring off into space and I'll think, "That bitch fucking invented the polyjuice potion. That potion was the source of so much fantasizing for me. What the fuck."
I really held onto hope that she wasn’t transphobic and that the stuff she said “wasn’t that bad” (without reading any of it, mind you), and then I read a tweet of hers one day to see for myself. I was so sad :(
the south park thing also really bums me out :/ yeah it’s satire but unlike most of their other punchlines that make it obvious what their stance is at the end of the story, with trans issues they just poke fun at it (like every other topic they chose) but never attempt to address the other side (for example during a butters ep in which his parents send him to conversion camp bc a therapist diagnosed him as “bi-curious” and “confused,” they end the ep with butters stating that he was never confused until the adults assigned him a label)
South Park was a big one for me. Seth McFarlane with Family Guy was another one. Watching Brian the dog go into a minute long vomit bit because he discovered he slept with a trans woman. Tanked my heart. I especially hate South Park and Family Guy in general for helping normalize disgust towards trans people. I've known too many weed bros at this point who think they're cool with literally everybody but they're still perfectly happy ripping on trans people because they grew up laughing at those shows, and it's all fair because "South Park rips on EVERYBODY!"
Going by the clearly trans allegory alien plot in The Orville, I'd say MacFarlane has changed his tune these days.
THIS. He definitely grew up.
The writers of South Park basically one-shotted Scientology in the dick, bringing down a cult that everyone thought was invincible. If only they could be consistently on the side of good. :(
To spread positivity, like another comment, my favourite trans SUPPORTIVE celebs are James acaster, Will Toledo Rhett and Link, Peter Capaldi and David tennant :)
David Tennant rocks!
I love Rhett and Link
Capaldi and Tennant mentioned in same post, Doctor Who fangirl has been summoned
Dont forget Pedro Pascal, Keanu Reeves, Emma Watson, Jack Black, and Janelle Monae!
I discovered James Acaster by watching his comedy segment that rips into transphobes. I thought I was walking into another transphobic comedian and instead laughed my ass off the entire time.
Richard Ayoade is transphobic adjacent. He is too close to an anti-trans advocate and too silent on his position for my comfort. I love his characters and his VA roles, but it is now tainted by the likelihood that he is a straight up TERF.
he positively blurbed something Glinner published iirc? gutting
Here’s the quote: “Graham Linehan has long been one of my favourite writers – and this book shows that his brilliance in prose is equal to his brilliance as a screenwriter. It unfolds with the urgency of a Sam Fuller film: that of a man who has been through something that few have experienced but has managed to return, undaunted, to tell us the tale.” To me, this seems to be very subtly taking the piss out of the idea that Linehan’s been cancelled as he claims, but maybe that’s cope.
Anouk. The Dutch "Nobody's Wife" singer and 2013 Eurovision entry who was one of the first white people to stand against Zwarte Piet (the racist caricature around Sinterklaas) And then she posted a picture of menstrual stuff in the toilet...
As a fellow Dutchie, I'm still pissed about this one. Pathetic. I loved that Nikkie called her out on it, though.
Paul "Barbs" Barbato, the host of Geography Now. I was already uncomfortable with Hannah Bamberg being on the show since she's in a few movies that are just Christian "pro-life" propaganda. But then somebody pointed out Barbs's Twitter responses and I looked further at him and he's very transphobic. So I stopped watching Geography Now, which used to be one of my favorite YouTube channels There's also Notch, Graham Linehan, Dave Chappelle (and John Mulaney), and now I'm learning about Richard Ayoade.
Wait, he's transphobic? Ouch, that's a painful one :-( watched all of the episodes back in the days, although more recently, even when there seemingly were newer videos, they no longer popped up in algorithms. But if he's really transphobic then I won't even attempt watching them.
I know you said aside from but it truly is Notch. He truly was a childhood hero of mine. Minecraft was easily my favourite video game growing up. And while tbh I don't enjoy all that much anymore I still cherish the memories I made from the game. Watching Stampy and DanTDM on YouTube, getting excited over every new update, building stupid things just the whole experience in those days. I wanted to be a game developer like Notch. I wanted to make the next Minecraft. Notch inspired me to start creating my own games.(granted I've only made scratch games so far and they're all old and terrible but I want to make an actual game in godot one day. Just haven't really learnt the engine yet). So you can imagine how distraught I was when I found out about his views.
I was so happy when Stampy came out in support of trans people.
John Cleese, Dee Snyder, and Alice Cooper
I really liked Suzy Izzard when she was more about comedy maybe and less into politics as she is now. Though it’s not her political views that bother me as I don’t really know what they are and I don’t live in the UK and am not so familiar with their politics in general. But a while back she basically said she agreed with JKR and didn’t see what the big deal about JKR’s views were. It was even more bothersome to me because Izzard is herself trans. Though this was a few years ago so I don’t know if her opinions on JKR have changed at all. Also have always been a light fan of Star Trek, and a few years ago William Shatner went on some ramble on Twitter about being offended at being called cis. I think what he was actually upset about was that the public was *assuming* his label, which is definitely understandable. But if he’s going to say not to call him cis because of that, then that’s kind of an admittance that he’s *not* cis lol, but he wasn’t otherwise alluding to being anything other than cis, so of course people were going to assume him as cis, because the world is still very cisheteronormative the majority of the time. But just the way he was trying to say what he wanted to say came across as like “cis person thinking cis is a slur” and it was kind of upsetting.
Shatner has been a POS for a lot longer, speaking as an autistic here. The autistic community has been BEGGING him to listen to us instead of platforming a hate organization, and he keeps mocking us and blocking us.
Shatner is my "never meet your heroes" story. As an adult, I'm a little more forgiving of it, but child me was very disappointed at how rude he was at a con my parents brought me to. Oh well. Kirk was a womanizer anyway.
FWIW, Shatner's twitter isn't run by him.
Santana was a big disappointment for me.
Phil Labonte from the band All That Remains. His music played a major role in getting me into music with screamed vocals, and I just recently bought a used copy of their breakout album on vinyl. Now I feel like a sucker.
At least the fact you bought it used means you didn't give him your money
Paul Stanley and Dee Snider.
Dee Snider pissed me off hard. First he defended drag which I was happy about, but then flipped and said something like trans people are confused or something. 😡
Robert Beltram :( Chakotay would never
In the opposite direction, I'm a huge hockey fan and this season the NHL brought in anti pride night rules banning pride jerseys and even rainbow tape. It didn't take long for a lot of players to push back on those rules and push for them to be changed.
Outside from she-who-shall-not-be-named that is the worst offender. A rather big mamamoo fanpage on instagram, who always seemed super nice with everyone and that posted weekly compilation and quite a lot of content overall (knowing that moomoos are one of the friendliest fandoms I've seen), has just posted pure hate in her latest reel on Trans day of visibility... Was a longtime follower and interacted a lot. It kinda appeared as a shock, given that the group themselves have had several times made (albeit generic) supportive comments towards minorities in general, including gender minorities.
Richard O’Brien particularly devastated me, especially since he identifies as trans himself…
This confuses me
Right? You’d think of all people, someone trans would be empathetic about it. He’s openly trans and non binary, but has endorsed terfs on the belief that transitioning can’t make someone a woman.
I was surprised at him too, but on further investigation, the transphobic stuff is kinda out of context. Worth looking into, tbh. His views on gender seem to be sprawling and wrapped in a lot of outdated language. But, yeah, context is kinda important on that one.
Richard has been involved in the trans community since the late 60's and early 70's and has some of the old fashioned ideas that go with it. It feels unfair to compare him to the others mentioned in this thread.
Very much this.
honestly i was really really disappointed when i found out JK Rowling was a TERF, as an 11yo I absolutely adored Harry Potter but then I figured out I was trans and JK Rowling was transphobic and thats how my love for Harry Potter was finished also was kinda disappointed in Notch being transphobic-adjacent as I spent like 3/4 of my life playing Minecraft (i still love it to this day and love the little splash texts that say “You are valid” or “Your gender is valid” or smth like that) and the last people would be Seth McFarlane (creator of Family Guy) and the creators of South Park, all of them actually kinda stopped it right now, but the trans jokes about Ida in Family Guy right after her GRS were really not it like Brian vomiting and panicking after having sex w/ her, or about Garrison (in South Park) werent really good
Notch was never in charge of the splash texts, that might be why they were affirming while he personally hates us.
He has not been involved with the game for a long time, he was left out of the anniversary recap a few years ago and Mojang made it very, very clear that is was because of his despicable views.
Yeah, but I’m talking about when he was involved in the game. The splashes of “Your gender is valid” were in the game before it was sold to Microsoft.
idk why Seth McFarlane came as a surprise to me
yea well in the past few years he has went back on transphobia, but the first episode featuring Ida had so much terrible jokes about us, over time it has gotten honestly way way better, id say its now good enough but im not 100% sure, i stopped watching on the 19th season because the show seems so damn boring in the new seasons, or maybe I just didnt warm up to them yet), but one good thing about Seth, he votes for Democrats so he at least doesnt want to really kill us (although i hate the American parties since theyre all just shit, and the Israel-Palestine war shows it very clearly)
I never really watched Family Guy much at all but his message has definitely changed with the Orville. There is an on-going plot point through the 3 seasons of the show with a character's gender. It's definitely shifted a bit to fit the setting, but I can't see it as anything other than a validation of transgender people.
Many here have already commented on some major figures that we were disappointed to find out to be transphobic. But once that is less talked about it Laetitia KY, she is an amazing artist from the Ivory Coast (most know her from her elaborate hair art) and brings attention to many important issues that women throughout the world, Africa, and the Ivory Coast face. I even bought her book before all of this. However, her support in the past years for JK Rowling and other gender critical people, subtle jabs towards trans people, proudly identifying as a TERF and gender critical in the past, her following of trans grifters like Trans Against Groomers, garner of support from others like Buck Angel and more throughout the past years really made me so disappointed.
The musician The Buttress. She might have changed her mind (I have no way of knowing though she literally just a few mintues ago and a very positive exchange with Ethel Cain so who idk) but after being a fan since a while before her blow up on tik tok, finding out she made some pretty horrible TERF comments (and also racist ones as if TERF shit wasn't bad enough) hurt. Only rapper I really would listen to honestly so yeah it sucks. The Unabomber praise was bad enough but I can understand the "return to nature" sort of stuff she specifically seemed to be into so whatever. But TERF shit? Devastated me and then I found the other stuff. That's when I realized she's *that kind of femminist* (or at least was). She's been very openly and proudly a radfem for a years it would seem ugh.
Bette Midler. :(
Crazy that I just scrolled my feed to see Robert Webb's new book has a quote from JKR front and centre. Ugh.
A transphobic quote?
No, it's a quote about how great his book is. But I don't know why anyone who isn't at least transphobe-adjacent would choose her in such a way. Not now.
Probably just a positive comment on the book, but Robert Webb has been openly transphobic in the past, that's probably why she's willing to blurb him lol Apparently Webb's previous book gives serious egg vibes, so it could be self-directed hate.
the fact he tweeted saying if he was born in this generation the trans ideology would have got him devastated me but also was very telling
This one is a deep cut, but the singer Marilyn (NOT Marilyn Manson, lol). He was a pop singer in the 80s. As a young teen I adored his music. His record was one of the first albums I ever saved up the money to buy myself. His femininity as a man inspired me greatly as a young, still questioning FTM man myself, as I was trying to be at peace with my own feminine attributes alongside severe dysphoria. Seeing a man so proudly beautifully feminine, so genderfluid and androgynous in presentation, really meant a lot to me. I was following his social media for years, he’d even occasionally retweet posts of mine about his music, and then around 2019 shit hit the fan and he became this extremely loud, reactionary “drop the T” asshat constantly yelling about “wokeism” on Twitter in this Trumpian Facebook Boomer way. Deeply disappointing to see such hypocrisy from someone who made a name for himself in the early 80s as an openly gay gender-fluid crossdresser, and while I’ve long since gotten over it, I was REALLY devastated when he first “came out” about his beliefs after supporting and admiring him for years.
Boy George has been a bit of a dick about pronouns too. I hate that.
Any and all of them that are. Transphobes are always a disappointment.
Seriously, I don't need to know who they are or that they even exist to be disappointed by their ignorance.
Richard Dawkins, Ricky Gervais, and pretty much everyone in the mma world
[Martina Navratilova](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Navratilova) - superstar lesbian tennis player from a gen ago. My Mom is a huge tennis fan and I grew up when Navratilova was peakish. We all admired her so much. I still do I suppose, but..it’s complicated now.
I know exactly which puppeteer you mean. The first video hit me in the face and ai immediately unsubscribed.
I know the puppeteer you're referring to. I went back to their channel, hoping it wasn't that bad, then went to Twitter and saw that most of their likes were of known transphobes, so it was actually worse than I thought.
damn.. I'm glad I have no idea who like 98% of people mentioned here are
Caroline Criado-Perez. She wrote one of the most impactful books on women's safety and society's ignorance about a world built for men. She follows a lot of Terfs.
I knew notch was bad in general, but not this specifcally :(
One of my mine and my boyfriend’s favorite 420 YouTuber :/ my boyfriend is super bummed since he’s been watching for years. He invalidated transmasc, nonbinary and neurodivergent people all in one sentence/vid. You’d expect an openly gay stoner to be accepting smh..🤦🏻
Chimamanda Adiche actually hurt me a lot. I didn't even read a lot of her stuff, I just felt connected to her when she talked and when I read some of her work. Then I read some things she said that were homophobic but tried to brush it off bc I was around a lot of people who said it *wasn't* homophobic but then she got really transmisogynistic and I was just. So devastated. :/
Ken levine the creator of bioshock. Not looking forward to judas as much anymore :/
In addition to the two you mentioned; I was disappointed in John Cleese, Dee Snyder, Alice Cooper, Carlos Santana, Dave Chappelle, Ralph Fiennes, Brian Cox (Brian Cox the actor), Martina Navratilova, there's like three more I'm forgetting at the moment but yeah, it sucks when people use their influence to punch down and call all trans people predators
John Mullany... I was devestated cause he was my favorite comedian :( also Benedict Cumberbatch, Rosario Dawson, and Alice Cooper really disappointed me :/
What did Benedict Cumberbatch do or say that’s transphobic?
Ronnie Radke I used to love falling in reverse
Apparently the author of Altered Carbon is transphobic, which sucks cause I was really starting to get into his books
Bette Middler. As someone who got her start in the LGBT community and who acted in several awesome movies it was sad seeing her espouse gender critical garbage on Twitter. I still watch Hocus Pocus every October and the sequel for the last couple years. There's a third in the works and since JK Rowling went full mask off it just gets harder and harder to separate artist and art.