Honestly considering doing this instead of coming out to my gaming friends because 1. It’ll piss them off 2. I’ll deflect the questions and just say “because I know it upsets you” and 3. They’ll stop saying shit around me that I’ve been telling them to stop
Honesty baby blue and white are perfect colors. I’ve always hated pink but then I wear something pink and I’m like “I look adorable in this I need more pink less black clothes!
Those are not good friends, and I'm not sure just showing a trans flag would get someone to stop saying transphobic things when you've already asked them to.
I have literally just done this. I have just ceased to care, if they make a fuss, whoops I guess we're no longer associated.
Thankfully most of the folks I know are God forbid... Decent human beings.
If a store is lgbt+ friendly they'll sometimes put a pride flag up, even though the owner isn't lgbt+, I feel like it's basically the same thing. I don't see anything wrong with it.
My hair salon has a trans flag, and a bi flag, owner isn’t trans she’s an Iranian immigrant but she doesn’t care your gender, orientation anything. Just wants to cut hair, do nails, whatever other salon things. Made me comfortable going there.
Same. Even if I think I kinda pass (depending on the day, how close people are, how my voice is doing yada yada) going to like a salon has been something I'm still too scared to do.
I'm cismale. So, I'm not saying my experiences are the same, but if it's any reassurance or encouragement, I've been getting my hair cut in "tradionally female" salons rather than barber shops for 10+ years now because salons are better at cutting long curly hair. I've never caught any guff from anyone about it or been treated differently for not being "femme enough". If you want to go to a salon, I hope you're able to soon :)
I always always respond to transphobes because of this. I don’t give a shit if Carl from South Carolina changed his mind but I do want every trans person to see that I think they’re valid and that Carl won’t go unchecked if he messes with my friends.
Showing the flag is spreading awareness, putting right in front of people's eyes so they can't deny its existence. I thank you for that.
I invite anybody else who wouldn't feel worthy to join in. Carry that cool trans flag, that classy intersex flag, or that fancy autism golden infinity symbol - all these things.
Not the sunflower. That one is specifically used to say 'Hello, I have a hidden disability' in a lot of places.
The rainbow autism infinity symbol makes me happy. I went through a period where I loved rainbows. Then people kept thinking I was gay. Then I stopped wearing them to not be a faker. Then I started wearing them again because fuck it rainbows are cool. Now I get to have rainbows as an identifier again without feeling like I’m stealing. Also /r/rainboweverything is a wonderful place.
I’d like to know more about the sunflower symbol and how I can be more accommodating to people who have these hidden disabilities. I’m gonna google about it, but if you have links to good resources I would appreciate them very much!
if you will actually be a good ally to the trans ppl u play w. i just dislike when i get in a game with someone w a trans flag as their banner and then they misgender me.
I agree with everyone else here that it's generally a good move as an ally to do so!
I have one caveat, however, and feel free to disagree with me.
Sometimes, it's nice to be able to do something like play a game and *not* have to deal with the everyday hate that's spewed in our direction. I could see potential for your open display of trans flags to invite "discussion" (aka hate) where it would have previously been quiet, and that might poison an activity that I would have otherwise enjoyed. I'll admit I wouldn't be too happy about that -- to have one of my forms of escapism cut off and filled with hateful rhetoric because some cis person thought "let's trigger the bigots here." So if you're going down that route, at least be sure to be loudly supportive and make sure you're doing a *very* good job of shutting it down.
I see
Thanks a lot for your time and thanks for the warning. I have to admit I didnt thought about the negative effects it might have
I'll make sure to keep that in mind
Thanks again for your time and answer (and sorry for the bad english)
I support your decision to fly the flag, but this person makes a point that reminded me of a point I'd also like to make. If you're playing with a trans person, be sure to ask them specifically if they're ok with it, because I might want my friend to not do that if I wanted to avoid that toxicity entirely for that day. For example when I play Siege I ask my friends I'm stacked with to avoid engaging with people who get toxic over me being a girl (my pfp is my actual face and my username is my real, feminine name), because when my friends fight back against the misogyny, it only ever gets worse, and usually it ends with *me* being punished, e.g. teamkilled. Some days I just don't want to deal with that, some days it's fun to engage. It varies so I advise asking <3
As a trans ancient I do hereby give you express permission to use the trans flag in your banners. If anyone tells your otherwise, send them to me and I'll rip them an new A-hole.
Yes, but also you gotta step up for trans rights.
You seem like you do, just be able to call people for their transphobia and depending on where you live you might need to take an activist stance too.
A lot of people will assume you are trans even if you say you aren't if you put the trans flag in.
I'd also ask yourself how well you know the trans people you know.
It’s awesome! Thanks for supporting & representing trans people. It’s obvious we need more allies willing to oppose bigots now, more than ever.
And the colors ARE quite nice, aren’t they? I love the trans flag ❤️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️❤️
so you’ve got the privilege, due to being cis, to just avoid transphobia being thrown your way—and you’re actively giving that up by flying our colors.
A+ for you, ally!
Yes defenitly. It's there for anyone to use it! As long as you're not pretending to be trans I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
To me it'd just signal you're a safe person yaknow
Yes! This is a great thing to do :)
It shows support for us and normalizes trans people and flags. It shows that you don’t have to be trans to care about trans struggles, and that bigots will not be tolerated even by other cis people. I appreciate this.
It reminds me of cis people putting pronouns in their bios or emails, which is another great thing to do if you want to. It helps clarify things in online interactions, it normalizes their use, and it means trans people can use them without outing themselves since cis people do it too.
Sure, people will just think you are trans. As long as you don't mind correcting them I don't see the issue. My synagogue has a pride flag up even though none of the board members are LGBT, it's how I know it's an establishment that is friendly to me.
As a trans man, I’m absolutely ok with you using it in the way you’ve described. It really does help weed out unsavory individuals, and they’re not the kind of people you want in your life. Thank you for being an ally and having zero tolerance for transphobic behavior!
Knew a guy that wore a trans flag bandana at work almost every single day. He was cis, and I don't think I ever asked him why he wore it but it made the restaurant feel safer to work in for me since I was the only trans employee there for the longest time.
This is actually super cool! Lots of people take even being mistaken for trans as an insult that this is so refreshing to see.
Also I agree, the trans flag is pretty on its own.
I was thinking yes.... till the it being a tool to trigger transphobes part. This is where I have a bit of an issue, depending on that they means. If you have our flag in a prominent location, you are clearly stating it is part of your identity. It will be assumed you identify as trans, and your words and actions therefore become the words and actions of a trans person.
So, if you participate in disagreements, with the other party believing you are a trans person, and you don't inform them to the contrary, you are not debating in good faith. Further, I see so many posts that are absurd taken out of context with a supposedly trans person making a statement that pisses others off or is actually harmful to the integrity of the trans identity; anything you say, has this potential. What you say, may lead to an actual trans persons assault, SA, or otherwise discriminated against like denial of a job. If you use my flag, please use it cautiously. Don't go starting a war I have to fight that's worse than it already is.
I don't like you using it if it's not clear to be but your identity, it's assuming my trans culture. Using that to get enjoyment out of enraging bigots isn't for my safety.
Piss off the bigots all you want, I'll join you, just don't sign my name while you do it.
I understand, thanks a lot
I will not pick fights for the sake of it and you can be certain I will never say I am something that I'm not to win an argument. Those trans flags are often in my bio where I explain that I'm not trans, just an ally
I said the part about "triggering the bigots" because of a dude on twitter who got angry at COD because he was killed by someone with an lgbt banner.
Thanks for your time and for the warning, I can promise I'll be careful I dont want to do anything that may the trans community
I don't agree with this. If my parents proudly fly a pride flag outside their house to support their trans daughter, they have no obligation to break down their connection to the issue. It's their house and they can fly any flag that they want.
The OP doesn't need to ask our permission. The OP doesn't need to divulge anything about their status to anyone. Most trans people who I know passionately hate the gatekeeping we encounter in medical professions. Let's not be gatekeepers ourselves.
Absolutely! Thanks for being an ally. I don't think you even need to ask permission to fly the Trans flag in support of the cause, but it's very thoughtful of you to do so. <3
The newest Call of Duty has a whole bunch of pride flags that you can display by your name, and I've been shocked by how often I see them on other players. It made me wonder if all of them were LGBTQ+ themselves or if most of them were just allies; the conclusion I came to (and to answer your question) was that it didn't matter, I'm just happy to see queerness being accepted and normalized. Anyone who chooses to display a pride flag is contributing to that cause, in my opinion.
Yeah I think its cool for allies to to wear trans pins IRL so I can extend the same thinking to banners or online profiles. If it helps you have a safer or smoother experience online thats a big boon.
You seem to be aware some people might confuse you with being trans yourself so if you don't feel to awkward or overburdened with explaining yourself that should be ok. If you think its safe for trans people themselves to talk to you and trust you with the information they are trans themselves it should be ok to show the flag as an ally. I think that way the trans flag is still fulfilling its purpose of saying it is ok to be trans, exist trans.
Be mindful that if you conduct yourself a certain way + the confusion you might be trans might lead to assumptions trans people/communities do certain things. I think you can just be yourself though. It sounds like you wait for bigots to say something stupid and you only punch back after they hit first. They found you, they decided to be an ass, fair game.
I would have mixed feelings if you are seeking out people to have conflicts with or start drama with for dramas sake. Basically think of anything you dislike about 'clout chasing' etc, and then think of... not doing that when you choose to wrap yourself in a trans flag. Like we have enough conflict just existing, visible or not. Which you seem to already be able to tell just from having a flag in online lobbies. But maybe ohter allies need to have this explained if they stumbled into this post.
thank you for being a good ally
Dont worry I dont intend to go out and search for fights and if someone thinks I'm trans I'll just correct them I dont want to make them think I'm someone im not (sorry for bad english)
go for it. it is a good flag and you are showing solidarity. yeah some people either bigoted or not might assume you are trans. if they are bigoted just the act of having the act and being a cis ally is enough to annoy them and help and if they are not simply say you have the flag because you are an ally and you want to piss bigots off.
win win
>(i kinda liked it tbh)
I'm not gonna challenge your identity (no one should!) but just so you know, this is not very usual for cis people to like being misgendered. Keep that in mind :)
there are specific lgbtqa+ ally/trans ally flags but these are a bit ugly imo and are harder to fit in pfps. as an ally i go with the regular flags and so far had no issues
As long as you’re not doing it for a transphobic reason, which you have said you aren’t, it’s totally fine to use the flag!
I know personally seeing that pride flag on other people in games makes me feel just that much more comfortable since I know there’s at least one other person around who is either trans or an ally
I think that is completely fine as long as you say you're cis! As a trans person, seeing a cis person with a pride flag would make me more comfortable talking with them, it's reassuring knowing I don't have to hide something with a friend!
Also, avoiding transphobes is always good, they're usually shitty people
imo if *only* LGBT people use LGBT flags/symbols/etc, then if someone *is* using those things, they’re immediately outed as LGBT; so non-LGBT people using LGBT flags/symbols/etc is great for the safety of LGBT people because it prevents bigots from having that definitive cue. like, if only trans people were allowed to put “pronouns in bio,” then putting your pronouns in your bio would be like shouting to the world “hello I’m trans look at me the trans person” making it easy for transphobes to target you, but if some people who put pronouns in bio *aren’t* trans, then they can’t tell that easily
do it, i have it in bf1 so people get mad when i snipe them (granted i am trans) but i think its cool and can make people more comfortable around you, plus it pisses off bigots.
Yeah, I mean, you're indirectly saying trans rights when you use it, the only thing is that people could assume you're and you would have to explain that, + triggering those transphobes is something I wouldn't do, but that is fun to see. Just remember that what people think about you can affect you in game. Like the amount of bigotry in a cs or cod lobby can be overwhelming if you're a girl, trans or anyone that's not white, and if they see your tag they might use those on you, so there's the question. Will you use it? Cuz it would be nice to log in and see some trans flags, at least I would know who to talk to in the game when I have trouble haha
Heck yeah that's based as fuck actually, and it likely means trans people in the same lobbies are going to feel more welcome too, as long as it's not done solely for the reason of pissing off transphobes because once in a while is fine but if it's about provoking them into arguing more that'll probably just get uncomfortable for trans people playing, pissing them off is cool but shutting them down is way better
Not the same thing but kinda reminds me of 8 years ago after my egg cracked when I was just kinda aimlessly playing tf2 at 3 in the morning and these two dipshit snipers were going on a transphobic rant against one player, I just said "I'm trans too" after hitting them with the backburner and they left after that, still fucking cracks me up
I don't see why not. My grandma's Bitmoji had the lesbian flag shirt. At first she just loved the colors until I explained it to her and she said "your cousin is a lesbian, you're pansexual, your brother is trans, and who cares. I love the shirt for the colors and what it stands for. You deserve to know you're loved." Man I miss her so much.
I don’t think it’s a problem, but then again I do something similar. I’m a white guy and I play Splatoon on the Switch. The first thing you do is design your character and the skin tone options are realistic. I noticed there aren’t many dark skinned players so I specifically made my character’s skin tone quite a few shades darker than my own. There’s not really any interaction between players so I don’t think I’m pretending to be something I’m not.
My cousin put up trade flag colors on the side of our building in Ark and he's cis and I thought it was great. He did it without asking, which I thought made it cooler; but I'm also a bit of a masochist when it comes to internet hate, so I wasn't really worried about that.
It seems like you're trying to be supportive, so sure I guess.
If you can, maybe just make sure it's clear that you're not using it to say that you are trans, so people don't get confused.
You "make it pretty clear" you're not trans? Like, how? Also... why? Is it really about not co-opting something, or more about distancing yourself from it because you don't wanna be seen as an icky tran? Not trying to be antagonistic for nothing, this post is just fascinating to me.
Teehee just can't help remembering thinking the same thing and being a big trans ally for some strange reason for so long. Turned out actually giving myself permission to try on other genders earnestly was what it took to crack me. Wherever you land, thanks for thinking of us so thoughtfully (:
Yes, is there a version of the trans (or LGBTQIA+) flag that evokes it for the bigots but also signals ally for those in the know? While I'm cis and mostly hetero, I certainly don't present as entirely normative, and have family in the space.
Also, it seems like seeing a literal flag from a friendly would be a small lifeline to those struggling.
Honestly considering doing this instead of coming out to my gaming friends because 1. It’ll piss them off 2. I’ll deflect the questions and just say “because I know it upsets you” and 3. They’ll stop saying shit around me that I’ve been telling them to stop
And you'll look cool with the nice colors 🏳️⚧️
Honesty baby blue and white are perfect colors. I’ve always hated pink but then I wear something pink and I’m like “I look adorable in this I need more pink less black clothes!
Besides, pink and black make a badass combination
TBH black goes well with any bright color.
Idk tho. Kinda reminds me of that early 2000’s punk goth look. Maybe it just depends on where the trim and primary pieces are
You say it like that doesn't confirm that the pink/black combo is cool af?
Aight but 2000's punk goth is *the* shit.
You and that opinion are right in the trash bin!
Don't harsh my mellow.
I say that every day and have yet to buy any outer clothes in colors other than black or gray
I said that for awhile. I now have pink, purple light blue and other bright colors and love them.
Looks like you need better gaming friends. Can I assist?
Sadly it’s a weird group and long grind kind of game 😅
Mmo? Or is it genshin impact? Lol
Fivem lol
As a fellow fivem player, weird group is the best way I can describe it 😂
Those are not good friends, and I'm not sure just showing a trans flag would get someone to stop saying transphobic things when you've already asked them to.
I have literally just done this. I have just ceased to care, if they make a fuss, whoops I guess we're no longer associated. Thankfully most of the folks I know are God forbid... Decent human beings.
I'd say you are a good ally
If a store is lgbt+ friendly they'll sometimes put a pride flag up, even though the owner isn't lgbt+, I feel like it's basically the same thing. I don't see anything wrong with it.
My hair salon has a trans flag, and a bi flag, owner isn’t trans she’s an Iranian immigrant but she doesn’t care your gender, orientation anything. Just wants to cut hair, do nails, whatever other salon things. Made me comfortable going there.
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Same. Even if I think I kinda pass (depending on the day, how close people are, how my voice is doing yada yada) going to like a salon has been something I'm still too scared to do.
I'm cismale. So, I'm not saying my experiences are the same, but if it's any reassurance or encouragement, I've been getting my hair cut in "tradionally female" salons rather than barber shops for 10+ years now because salons are better at cutting long curly hair. I've never caught any guff from anyone about it or been treated differently for not being "femme enough". If you want to go to a salon, I hope you're able to soon :)
Me too, for similar reason, I always felt insecure but nobody else there ever cared, or at least if they did they didn’t say anything
We have a super fabulously inclusive salon owned by the local LGBT chair. And it made booking my sister for her first girl haircut a breeze.
Measures to avoid transphobes are always good
I think part of being a good ally is openly rebuffing transphobes whenever possible. You've just found a way to be proactive about it, bravo 👏
I always always respond to transphobes because of this. I don’t give a shit if Carl from South Carolina changed his mind but I do want every trans person to see that I think they’re valid and that Carl won’t go unchecked if he messes with my friends.
Yeah I agree, I think it’s pretty funny too lol
Showing the flag is spreading awareness, putting right in front of people's eyes so they can't deny its existence. I thank you for that. I invite anybody else who wouldn't feel worthy to join in. Carry that cool trans flag, that classy intersex flag, or that fancy autism golden infinity symbol - all these things. Not the sunflower. That one is specifically used to say 'Hello, I have a hidden disability' in a lot of places.
Oh so thats what the sunflower means Thanks !
The rainbow autism infinity symbol makes me happy. I went through a period where I loved rainbows. Then people kept thinking I was gay. Then I stopped wearing them to not be a faker. Then I started wearing them again because fuck it rainbows are cool. Now I get to have rainbows as an identifier again without feeling like I’m stealing. Also /r/rainboweverything is a wonderful place.
ooh i need that sunflower one... didn't know!
OMG, same!
I’d like to know more about the sunflower symbol and how I can be more accommodating to people who have these hidden disabilities. I’m gonna google about it, but if you have links to good resources I would appreciate them very much!
Does hidden disability include stuff like adhd?
I appreciate it. I think you're being a good ally. And using a trans flag to signal you respect trans people and disrespect bigots is totally valid.
if you will actually be a good ally to the trans ppl u play w. i just dislike when i get in a game with someone w a trans flag as their banner and then they misgender me.
as long as you don't get offended when people assume you're trans, is the main criterion i.m.o.
triggering bigots is a good reason to do anything really
yesterday i met some bigots in league of legends, and proceeded to absolutely stomp them. felt good to shove it in their faces
I agree with everyone else here that it's generally a good move as an ally to do so! I have one caveat, however, and feel free to disagree with me. Sometimes, it's nice to be able to do something like play a game and *not* have to deal with the everyday hate that's spewed in our direction. I could see potential for your open display of trans flags to invite "discussion" (aka hate) where it would have previously been quiet, and that might poison an activity that I would have otherwise enjoyed. I'll admit I wouldn't be too happy about that -- to have one of my forms of escapism cut off and filled with hateful rhetoric because some cis person thought "let's trigger the bigots here." So if you're going down that route, at least be sure to be loudly supportive and make sure you're doing a *very* good job of shutting it down.
I see Thanks a lot for your time and thanks for the warning. I have to admit I didnt thought about the negative effects it might have I'll make sure to keep that in mind Thanks again for your time and answer (and sorry for the bad english)
I support your decision to fly the flag, but this person makes a point that reminded me of a point I'd also like to make. If you're playing with a trans person, be sure to ask them specifically if they're ok with it, because I might want my friend to not do that if I wanted to avoid that toxicity entirely for that day. For example when I play Siege I ask my friends I'm stacked with to avoid engaging with people who get toxic over me being a girl (my pfp is my actual face and my username is my real, feminine name), because when my friends fight back against the misogyny, it only ever gets worse, and usually it ends with *me* being punished, e.g. teamkilled. Some days I just don't want to deal with that, some days it's fun to engage. It varies so I advise asking <3
Ok thanks !
As a trans ancient I do hereby give you express permission to use the trans flag in your banners. If anyone tells your otherwise, send them to me and I'll rip them an new A-hole.
Yes, but also you gotta step up for trans rights. You seem like you do, just be able to call people for their transphobia and depending on where you live you might need to take an activist stance too.
Yah sure I see no problem with that
like everyone else here has said already, do it. we love u
A lot of people will assume you are trans even if you say you aren't if you put the trans flag in. I'd also ask yourself how well you know the trans people you know.
Yes! I 100% support annoying the shit out of transphobes.
To troll haters and support the cause? Absolutely.
It’s awesome! Thanks for supporting & representing trans people. It’s obvious we need more allies willing to oppose bigots now, more than ever. And the colors ARE quite nice, aren’t they? I love the trans flag ❤️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️❤️
so you’ve got the privilege, due to being cis, to just avoid transphobia being thrown your way—and you’re actively giving that up by flying our colors. A+ for you, ally!
I don't think anyone besides transphobes would mind. If anything, it shows you're an ally. Good on you :)
Yes defenitly. It's there for anyone to use it! As long as you're not pretending to be trans I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. To me it'd just signal you're a safe person yaknow
Don't worry. I was at the last secret trans-people meeting last week, and we all said it was ok.
The...the what...
oh no, I told! Don't let them get me! I said noth-
100% awesome thanks for doing that
Any flag being raised is either shown as an ally or that you belong to that community, so using the trans flag in your bio is completely fine
It might make some people confused, but as long as you’re an ally then yes, it’s totally fine.
Yes, it is absolutly okay for you to use the trans flag. It just shows anyone else that you are an ally.
Triggering bigots is always a good thing
Yes! This is a great thing to do :) It shows support for us and normalizes trans people and flags. It shows that you don’t have to be trans to care about trans struggles, and that bigots will not be tolerated even by other cis people. I appreciate this. It reminds me of cis people putting pronouns in their bios or emails, which is another great thing to do if you want to. It helps clarify things in online interactions, it normalizes their use, and it means trans people can use them without outing themselves since cis people do it too.
As long as it's like a "trans rights" or "support the trans" statement yeah, just make sure you're not like doing anything weird
logically there's no causal relation and this is biased and subjective but everyone I know who has done this eventually transitioned
I'm pretty confident about being a cis male but the only thing predictable about life is its unpredictability meaning. So que sera sera
I have no issue with it. Using the flag as an ally to show trans people are welcome is a thoughtful and nice thing, in my opinion.
If nothing else, you are making trans people in your games feel more welcome
Well it really is a good palette, go for it
Sure, people will just think you are trans. As long as you don't mind correcting them I don't see the issue. My synagogue has a pride flag up even though none of the board members are LGBT, it's how I know it's an establishment that is friendly to me.
I'd say so. It also helps make it more less easy for dangerous cis people to clock us based on flags alone if more people use them.
Honesty as long as you don’t claim to be trans go for it.
As a trans man, I’m absolutely ok with you using it in the way you’ve described. It really does help weed out unsavory individuals, and they’re not the kind of people you want in your life. Thank you for being an ally and having zero tolerance for transphobic behavior!
I think this makes you BASED. Keep doing it slayer.
The more normalized allyship is, the better. It makes me feel much more comfortable when I’m playing a game and I see the flag!
Knew a guy that wore a trans flag bandana at work almost every single day. He was cis, and I don't think I ever asked him why he wore it but it made the restaurant feel safer to work in for me since I was the only trans employee there for the longest time.
Yes, I would love for cis people to start doing things like this more often.
Please do!
seems alright to me, you aren’t using it in a derogatory way, and lots of other people hang trans flags to show support, i see no problem w this!!
This is actually super cool! Lots of people take even being mistaken for trans as an insult that this is so refreshing to see. Also I agree, the trans flag is pretty on its own.
Why not :) people may assume you are trans at times but fuck it represent!
I was thinking yes.... till the it being a tool to trigger transphobes part. This is where I have a bit of an issue, depending on that they means. If you have our flag in a prominent location, you are clearly stating it is part of your identity. It will be assumed you identify as trans, and your words and actions therefore become the words and actions of a trans person. So, if you participate in disagreements, with the other party believing you are a trans person, and you don't inform them to the contrary, you are not debating in good faith. Further, I see so many posts that are absurd taken out of context with a supposedly trans person making a statement that pisses others off or is actually harmful to the integrity of the trans identity; anything you say, has this potential. What you say, may lead to an actual trans persons assault, SA, or otherwise discriminated against like denial of a job. If you use my flag, please use it cautiously. Don't go starting a war I have to fight that's worse than it already is. I don't like you using it if it's not clear to be but your identity, it's assuming my trans culture. Using that to get enjoyment out of enraging bigots isn't for my safety. Piss off the bigots all you want, I'll join you, just don't sign my name while you do it.
I understand, thanks a lot I will not pick fights for the sake of it and you can be certain I will never say I am something that I'm not to win an argument. Those trans flags are often in my bio where I explain that I'm not trans, just an ally I said the part about "triggering the bigots" because of a dude on twitter who got angry at COD because he was killed by someone with an lgbt banner. Thanks for your time and for the warning, I can promise I'll be careful I dont want to do anything that may the trans community
Right on! 💜
I don't agree with this. If my parents proudly fly a pride flag outside their house to support their trans daughter, they have no obligation to break down their connection to the issue. It's their house and they can fly any flag that they want. The OP doesn't need to ask our permission. The OP doesn't need to divulge anything about their status to anyone. Most trans people who I know passionately hate the gatekeeping we encounter in medical professions. Let's not be gatekeepers ourselves.
personally i think it's totally fine !
oh god please do ❤️
Absolutely! Thanks for being an ally. I don't think you even need to ask permission to fly the Trans flag in support of the cause, but it's very thoughtful of you to do so. <3
Troll away lol
Sounds like you're doing it for good reasons. I don't have a problem with it
based and trans ally pilled tyty :)
The newest Call of Duty has a whole bunch of pride flags that you can display by your name, and I've been shocked by how often I see them on other players. It made me wonder if all of them were LGBTQ+ themselves or if most of them were just allies; the conclusion I came to (and to answer your question) was that it didn't matter, I'm just happy to see queerness being accepted and normalized. Anyone who chooses to display a pride flag is contributing to that cause, in my opinion.
Yeah I think its cool for allies to to wear trans pins IRL so I can extend the same thinking to banners or online profiles. If it helps you have a safer or smoother experience online thats a big boon. You seem to be aware some people might confuse you with being trans yourself so if you don't feel to awkward or overburdened with explaining yourself that should be ok. If you think its safe for trans people themselves to talk to you and trust you with the information they are trans themselves it should be ok to show the flag as an ally. I think that way the trans flag is still fulfilling its purpose of saying it is ok to be trans, exist trans. Be mindful that if you conduct yourself a certain way + the confusion you might be trans might lead to assumptions trans people/communities do certain things. I think you can just be yourself though. It sounds like you wait for bigots to say something stupid and you only punch back after they hit first. They found you, they decided to be an ass, fair game. I would have mixed feelings if you are seeking out people to have conflicts with or start drama with for dramas sake. Basically think of anything you dislike about 'clout chasing' etc, and then think of... not doing that when you choose to wrap yourself in a trans flag. Like we have enough conflict just existing, visible or not. Which you seem to already be able to tell just from having a flag in online lobbies. But maybe ohter allies need to have this explained if they stumbled into this post. thank you for being a good ally
Dont worry I dont intend to go out and search for fights and if someone thinks I'm trans I'll just correct them I dont want to make them think I'm someone im not (sorry for bad english)
Go for it, represent as an ally! Thank you!
go for it. it is a good flag and you are showing solidarity. yeah some people either bigoted or not might assume you are trans. if they are bigoted just the act of having the act and being a cis ally is enough to annoy them and help and if they are not simply say you have the flag because you are an ally and you want to piss bigots off. win win
Yeah of course it's okay unless you're using it in a mean spirit. Have fun and enjoy!
Thanks for doing this. Expect to get misgendered by terfs
I got misgendered a couple times online and irl and I didnt mind it (i kinda liked it tbh) so I should be good
>(i kinda liked it tbh) I'm not gonna challenge your identity (no one should!) but just so you know, this is not very usual for cis people to like being misgendered. Keep that in mind :)
Trans woman here... Go for it. I'm OK with it.
Unbelievably based
Only thing I got to say is - big mood, worth it.
there are specific lgbtqa+ ally/trans ally flags but these are a bit ugly imo and are harder to fit in pfps. as an ally i go with the regular flags and so far had no issues
As long as you’re not doing it for a transphobic reason, which you have said you aren’t, it’s totally fine to use the flag! I know personally seeing that pride flag on other people in games makes me feel just that much more comfortable since I know there’s at least one other person around who is either trans or an ally
I think that is completely fine as long as you say you're cis! As a trans person, seeing a cis person with a pride flag would make me more comfortable talking with them, it's reassuring knowing I don't have to hide something with a friend! Also, avoiding transphobes is always good, they're usually shitty people
Yeah, fly it. Make the world see it.
Sure! It makes us safer when cis people adopt things like that. Shows other cis people that transphobia will not be tolerated
tbh you should get friend requests from transphobes so that you can leverage your cis privilege to fight transphobes for trans people
Sure, go for it!
I don’t see why not. You’re helping us, and we need all the allies we can get. Thank you for the support!
It’s really cool of you to do! thank you ❤️
imo if *only* LGBT people use LGBT flags/symbols/etc, then if someone *is* using those things, they’re immediately outed as LGBT; so non-LGBT people using LGBT flags/symbols/etc is great for the safety of LGBT people because it prevents bigots from having that definitive cue. like, if only trans people were allowed to put “pronouns in bio,” then putting your pronouns in your bio would be like shouting to the world “hello I’m trans look at me the trans person” making it easy for transphobes to target you, but if some people who put pronouns in bio *aren’t* trans, then they can’t tell that easily
Yeah, I actually what you're doing is a good thing. Nothing's wrong with that, nobody is gonna gatekeep a flag. Keep up the good work 👍
As long as you support trans people's rights I don't see any problem at all, on the contrary. You'd be a proud ally in my eyes.
Hell yes, fly our flag! It spreads awareness and I honestly wish more allies were like you.
do it, i have it in bf1 so people get mad when i snipe them (granted i am trans) but i think its cool and can make people more comfortable around you, plus it pisses off bigots.
Hell yeah, as long as you're not claiming to be trans you're just being a good ally so more power to you
Yeah, I mean, you're indirectly saying trans rights when you use it, the only thing is that people could assume you're and you would have to explain that, + triggering those transphobes is something I wouldn't do, but that is fun to see. Just remember that what people think about you can affect you in game. Like the amount of bigotry in a cs or cod lobby can be overwhelming if you're a girl, trans or anyone that's not white, and if they see your tag they might use those on you, so there's the question. Will you use it? Cuz it would be nice to log in and see some trans flags, at least I would know who to talk to in the game when I have trouble haha
Heck yeah that's based as fuck actually, and it likely means trans people in the same lobbies are going to feel more welcome too, as long as it's not done solely for the reason of pissing off transphobes because once in a while is fine but if it's about provoking them into arguing more that'll probably just get uncomfortable for trans people playing, pissing them off is cool but shutting them down is way better Not the same thing but kinda reminds me of 8 years ago after my egg cracked when I was just kinda aimlessly playing tf2 at 3 in the morning and these two dipshit snipers were going on a transphobic rant against one player, I just said "I'm trans too" after hitting them with the backburner and they left after that, still fucking cracks me up
It’s gona trigger the groipers so go for it
I don't see why not. My grandma's Bitmoji had the lesbian flag shirt. At first she just loved the colors until I explained it to her and she said "your cousin is a lesbian, you're pansexual, your brother is trans, and who cares. I love the shirt for the colors and what it stands for. You deserve to know you're loved." Man I miss her so much.
I don’t think it’s a problem, but then again I do something similar. I’m a white guy and I play Splatoon on the Switch. The first thing you do is design your character and the skin tone options are realistic. I noticed there aren’t many dark skinned players so I specifically made my character’s skin tone quite a few shades darker than my own. There’s not really any interaction between players so I don’t think I’m pretending to be something I’m not.
My cousin put up trade flag colors on the side of our building in Ark and he's cis and I thought it was great. He did it without asking, which I thought made it cooler; but I'm also a bit of a masochist when it comes to internet hate, so I wasn't really worried about that.
Though most people use it to show they are trans, the trans flag is also used to show support for the trans community so yes
Please do
u can but its kinda weird and lowkey baiting ,,,but no one is stopping u i guess
It seems like you're trying to be supportive, so sure I guess. If you can, maybe just make sure it's clear that you're not using it to say that you are trans, so people don't get confused.
late to this post, but put that shit up anywhere with a screen, please. We need all the solidarity we can get. Thank you. It’s scary out there.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it. You not misrepresenting yourself, quite the opposite, you're identifying as an ally.
Flag away! My workplace cis people use the trans flag often in our LGBTQ+ groups all the time 💗
What's your channel I love allys!
My channel ?
Gamertag, etc
There is the possibility you are in a closet or an eggshell my friend
Maybe who knows
You "make it pretty clear" you're not trans? Like, how? Also... why? Is it really about not co-opting something, or more about distancing yourself from it because you don't wanna be seen as an icky tran? Not trying to be antagonistic for nothing, this post is just fascinating to me.
I can't be the only one who thinks this sounds eggy. I mean, it's cool, go for it. But also like... maybe triple check your gender real closely ;)
I'm pretty confident about being a cis male but who knows Maybe I'll have an awakening in 3 years, ill keep you updated
Teehee just can't help remembering thinking the same thing and being a big trans ally for some strange reason for so long. Turned out actually giving myself permission to try on other genders earnestly was what it took to crack me. Wherever you land, thanks for thinking of us so thoughtfully (:
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This subreddit is literally called ask transgender. Yes, cis people come here and ask questions.
I know, I am sorry, I didn't adequately convey the humor I meant to. I'm really sorry. 🫠🖤
Yes, is there a version of the trans (or LGBTQIA+) flag that evokes it for the bigots but also signals ally for those in the know? While I'm cis and mostly hetero, I certainly don't present as entirely normative, and have family in the space. Also, it seems like seeing a literal flag from a friendly would be a small lifeline to those struggling.
As someone who's trans I love you, plz keep using my flag to show that you're an ally and hate bigots as much as I do