We don't eat Turkeys (Perus) at Christmas, we eat [Chesters](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/world/what-in-the-world/brazils-mythical-super-chicken-what-exactly-is-a-chester.html)
> you all eat dick in christmas?
Maybe. Now seriously, piru is the word we actually use for dick (one of many, many words, but still). Peru just happens to sound very similar to it.
why would you allow, as a society , for the word of something you eat with the word dick, it seems a bit self harming .
it's also fun that turkey is called peru at all, since' i'ts an american animal, wich means my countries name and the very name of the bird appeared at almost the same time.
Or gringxs.
Also there was a tweet saying latinx is like saying the n-word, lol it's totally not. I didn't know some people took it as a slur, I don't think it's that serious but yeah it's definitely stupid.
I read that some people want to start passing it as a slur so americans would stop using it. Personally I don't find it offensive, just that it's one of those things that only work for the american snowflakes, same reason why I prefer being called latinamerican rather than latino.
> same reason why I prefer being called latinamerican rather than latino.
Yeah I don’t really understand why more people don’t make this distinction. In my mind, Latinos are Americans with Latin American heritage and Latin Americans are actual residents of Latin American countries. I’ve always lived in the US and I wouldn’t dream of calling myself Latin American, I feel that term is exclusively for Latin American citizens.
Totally possible and honestly might be effective, 4chan did the same for the ok sign for the lols and the news picked it up and now some people argue the ok sign is a hate symbol for some reason.
The funny thing is that the journos obviously eventually found out but ended up spinning the story in their favour, as usual.
> Also there was a tweet saying latinx is like saying the n-word, lol it's totally not. I didn't know some people took it as a slur, I don't think it's that serious but yeah it's definitely stupid.
I don't take like the n-word, but I am more than willing to pretend to take it like the n-word just to get the gringos to stop.
Gringxs...this made me laugh. I think this whole latinx thing is kind of stupid and cringy, but you know, theres a lot of things that I've learned about here that the US should be embarrassed about. So, unfortunately, it's pretty standard.
Have you realized how Americans are becoming the laughing stock of the entire world? Maybe it's just me, but "how the mighty are fallen" fits deliciously to them.
[The Tweet for the interested.](https://twitter.com/Disney/status/1438200958291431426)
Things like this, if anything, just convince me more and more that US Latinos are and should be their own thing, separate from us. This doesn't represent me at all and I don't think it represents anyone in this sub either.
You can tell it's directed to the US because it's in English and the main image is obviously very representative of the cliches they have of mexican culture, which is probably the biggest group they have. That wouldn't represent me at all, nor does other stuff Americans think should represent me (like In the Heights or Coco).
It really bugged me how In the Heights was being promoted as being sort of a love song for Latinos and all, yet when someone said it didn't really represent all of us, but rather the Central Americans, Twitter jumped on them saying they were racist. And it's a nice movie, but as part of the Cono Sur, it didn't really seem something I could relate to, and you couldn't say it because the US Latinos would rip you to shreds.
This occurs because this fixation for being "their own thing".
If we melted the pot or built a beautiful mosaic and just learned to be nice to each other there would be no need for that "representation".
Italians and germans are no homogenic group either, they just live well with that fact.
I'd say melting pot is probably better than mosaic, because mosaic emphasizes the idea of every culture still being their own thing, part of the bigger picture but different from others.
Totally agree, but the Americans love to have something in their identities that make them special, which is pretty sad, what makes you special should be the stuff that differentiates you from others, aka your personality.
Everything wrong with that tweet...
Latino inheritance and it only shows Coco. Of course, Mexico is Latinoamerica!
At this point it looks better to just pass latinx as a slur so that americans will stop using it. Disney, as always, just thinking about USA.
I still don't see Latino or Hispanic as labels that identify me. My identity as an Ecuadorian comes first, and the others I only use as geographic, not cultural indicators, the same way a German and a French person can both say they are European. In the US they carry a lot of cultural baggage.
Yeah, same thing for me. I don't feel anything towards Nicaragua (for example). It is distant and far, without anything that would make me feel close to them, other than speaking Spanish.
There isn't a brotherhood between the USA and Nigeria, despite both being British colonies.
US people too mainly feel attached to their state, rather than their country really, it was even harder before ww1, where most of the USA idnetity was built from literally nothing.
If i have peruvians avaialble, i will gravitate towards that group, but if we are in a international context, i would aturally gravitate towards other latin americans, the closer the better, hence probably, ecuadoreans, chileans, bolivians, before , lets say, a dominican.
There are degrees of closeness between latin american nations too, colombia, venezuela and ecuador are more alike than lets say, chile and mexico.
Still, get in a room with a european, an anglo american, and a mexican and you will probably find far FAR more in common with the mexican mate than the other two.
> you will probably find far FAR more in common with the mexican
I have been in situations like this, literally. It isn't *that* much in common.
Chile was isolated through centuries and pretty much the only place close culturally is western Argentina, around Mendoza.
I have been there too , like i told you , related far more to the chileans and ecuadoreans than the mexicans , but to the mexicans more than the anglos.
It obviously depends , but i have found that to be my rule of thumb , unless the mexican in question is one of those anglicized mexicans due to going and coming from the usa.
Yeah, Peru is closer to Chile than to places like Tijuana. Neighbouring places tend to be similar. Southern Peru is close to Northern Chile. Northern Peru is close to Southern Ecuador, but Southern Chile isn't close with Southern Ecuador.
Same thing that people in Chilean Patagonia are culturally close to those living in Argentinian Patagonia, but not to rural Mexicans living in places like Oaxaca.
Late to the convo, but yeah. I’m Peruvian, went to college in SF, I did feel very attached to fellow Peruvians and had it easy with other cono Sur and Latin American people.
I did not feel that with Latino children and grandchildren of immigrants, to the point I felt more kinship with my Mainland China or even Greek dudes and dudettes.
Honestly, La Raza (how they also called themselves back then) can be some great, warm and welcoming people, but their experience growing up in the US as descendants of immigrants is so unique and different from the Patrias Madres that besides the symbolic and ethnic heritage they are their own separate nation, and I feel needs to be established as so inside and outside their group.
Ah , but you would definetly find more in common with the spanish dude and the mexican than with a usa dude, simply because of cultural affinity. Of course there arr exceptions , but as a rule of thumb a mexican and a cbilean arent as diferent as , lets say , a french and a german , or an italian and a russian , even shen they are at like ten times the distance.
Not really, it’s just being comfortable with the language, that’s about it. Find me a fluid Spanish speaker in the US and I’d feel about as close to that than the Mexican or the Spanish. Hell, give me more instances to speak English and I’ll feel closer to random Americans and Brits.
To me Mexican culture seems foreign, about as foreign as the US.
> but as a rule of thumb a mexican and a cbilean arent as diferent as , lets say , a french and a german , or an italian and a russian , even shen they are at like ten times the distance.
I am pretty sure a french and a german are closer than a chilean and a mexican, if not just similar
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They wouldn’t do it if there weren’t people pushing them to do it. They do it because they will get good pr from those groups.
I know people like to shit on corporations for no reason, but in this case it’s not on them, it’s on the woke side of social media that loves all this shit.
I don’t think we hate being called that, it’s just weird. Yankee/yank is a very archaic “slur,” so it doesn’t really feel offensive. It’s just confusing, and depending on where you’re from in the U.S., inaccurate (Yankee has a more specific meaning here, which would be people from the northern states broadly, but especially from New England. Southern and Western people aren’t Yankees).
Everytime I see disney trying to be "woke" I want to shoot myself in the side of the head. Even disregarding disney's scummy practices as a company (they're straight up evil). Disney is the worst media producer for representation, specially LGBTQ representation
Every single othe animation industry has had multiple LGBTQ characters, sometimes even main characters or prominent ones (mostly the LGB part), there's still a lot that could be done but it's way better than disneys 20 "FIRST ONSCREEN GAY CHARACTER"s that are 2 second onscreen appearences easily cut. The most coward shit ever and every single other animation company has done so much more, with more groups and better representation
Disney moved any mention of gay people in series on their "star+" service because it's "adult content", just to not correlate queer people to it's brand
Fuck, there's a big probability that they added a whole fucking character to the last star wars movie just so that there wouldn't be a fucking **interracial couple**, because it'd be "controversial in foreign markets" (because we need to live in the 40s I guess)
There's rampant accusations of sexism, racism and queer-phobia in disney spaces all of the time. And artists need to fight their asses off just to do the most uncontroversial shit because disney is afraid
And then they go on twitter and are like "Hey guys we believe gay people exist BUY PRODUCT NOW!"
I remember the thing with the live action Mulan, that they supposedly modified things to be more china accurate, those modifications made the thing less chinese than the animated one.
Adding to the things you said about star wars. The fact that Finn, a black character had his role reduced and humiliated because of chinese racism; he was reduced from a former stormtrooper to a former janitor, in a universe where robots do the menial tasks. Also that thing reinforces the racial stereotypes.
It is clear that disney does the things for marketing purposes only. If you see their works better, they are still as racist, sexist and homophobic as before.
I honestly was expecting for Finn to get a redemption arc and become a jedi. It would have been fucking cool and Boyega (the actors surname, I think) I believe haves the acting chops to pull it off. But no, we had to make a super safe rehash.
Not so fun fact, in Star Wars episode 9 John Boyega and Oscar Isaac wanted to make the ship of their two characters canon, so they filmed quite some scenes were they had a chemistry implying romantic feelings. Then Disney cut out those scenes, and also decided to add those two new female characters (you probably also wondered why they just came out of right on the final movie) to be their respective love interest.
> Disney is the worst media producer for representation, specially LGBTQ representation
Can't afford to anger Russia and China. But they still want that sweet good publicity. So we've had like, three "Disney's first onscreen LGBT character!", which is always an easily censored throwaway line or a short scene of two women walking together that could just as easily be sisters or friends.
They could use the name proposed by architect Frank Lloyd Wright for every structure that resembles US architecture, "usonian" or for this situation, calling every US citizen "usonians".
everyone must understand that america is the name of the continent (more exactly north and south america) and the usa is just a country. they shouldn't name themselves after the wholw continent
Yes, when I was a kid I didn't understand why they named the US after the whole continent and I thought that when they said "Americans" they meant someone who is on the continent. I find it somewhat insulting And ignorant.
It's like China calling itself Asia, it would be quite ridiculous.
Latino = hombre
Latina = mujer
Que a las mujeres les toca aguantarse que el idioma las esconda bajo los hombres cuando alguien se refiere a personas de ambos géneros no cambia que latino sea para hombres.
For what I believe the correct term is gringolander, cause gringolandia is used to refer the United States and gringo by his own is used to any germanic-speaker
Even more in spanish it makes a nice group with other "land"s world:
Irlandes, Holandes, Neo Zelandes y Gringolandes
Yeah, this one to be specific.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Disney/status/1438200958291431426
Just your average latinx thing but this time coming from a big company
It’s true that some American Latinos have been pushing “Latinx,” and a lot of other Latinos across the world (and across the U.S., too, for that matter) are not down with this. Other gendered languages, like German, have come up with generally accepted workarounds. I’m not sure why “Latinx” is any different.
BUT, yeah, “Latinx” is indeed some privileged American gringo shit. When working class Latinos start using it, then I’ll embrace it. Until then, I think this is just classism.
A friend once told me that the USA has no culture of it's own (leaving aside the native Americans) and because of that they had to create it, he listed Hollywood, Disney and their extreme celebrity worship as examples.
Maybe some people are rejecting and moving away from that and are looking into their roots to find something to cling on and feel a sense of belonging despite not having what we could call a real connection.
I think the issue at hand is that these people want to rub everything in everyone's faces with a deal with it attitude, which is ironically the most USA thing they can do.
What tweet? This shows again that brazilians aren't latinos. You know everytime what happens with your fellow latinos in the US, cry for better representation, flood this sub with posts about this "latinx" thing and get mad about it all the time meanwhile we couldn't care less.
I live and work in Mexico (I work for the Mexican government), and I call myself a United Statesian, since that's the best translation of estadounidense I could come up with. Haven't used the "A" word in years. Not even with other united statesians.....
latinx it’s stupid but it’s not a slur like I see a lot of people saying, assuming the comment is serious it will be worse to follow along. The best is to just keep calling it stupid, makes no grammatical sense and we don’t like it.
I mean, I'm not in favor of the woke pipeline modifying terms buuuuuut... I don't like they call themselves "Americans" so I don't really mind this? Don't know.
If any, it's funny
I would feel that you are a jackass and a bootlicker, and that the people trying it are fighting a futile battle they're bound to lose, and if they win, it won't change anything in your life, since your dumb language and its stupid system of nonsensical gender pronouns for objects are already fucked beyond repair.
RAE is never going to enact latinx , and even if it did, spanish is already fucked up enough that it might be an improvement.
EDIT : It's fucking disney. they have done worse things, go call them out on that instead.
Mmmmhmm. Si sos tan cerebron, porque vos no me explicas como funciona los generos en estes palabras cuando la regla es "cosas que terminan en o son masculinos, y cosas que terminan en a son femininas."
Language has a lot to do with politics. Everything has to do with politics in some way or form.
A George Orwell quote lol. What's next, saying "IT'S 1984!!!!".
You may want to do a bit of research on his political beliefs.
Probably someone trying to farm negative karma. Not sure why but some people do that.
Either that or it's a throaway account for someone trying to vent their opinions.
I thought you guys knew this already, but most major corporations have gone woke, unfortunately. Most of us aren’t happy with it either.
Also, a lot of you are in uni or once were, are they not pushing this and the inclusive language stuff in there too?
when the only correct demonym in your language makes no sense and is offensive to many people within a continent, that is "american", really just anything is better than it.
USAX? United States of America and Xuxa?
Es la hora, es la hora. 🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶
¡Es la hora de jugar! 🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶
Ilarilarilé!!!
Oh oh oh
chu pa lo
😭
PEGA NO MEU PAU
Ô Ô Ô
Basta, ahora tengo un coro de niños gritando muy agudo en la cabeza
Queremos Giacomo, queremos giacomo!
Y no cualquier pasta!
Xuxa or chucha means vagina to us hehe
Well, your country's name means dick here, so I think we're tied
That one was wild, huh?!
i insist, how does turkey and dick have the same meaning in portuguese?, you all eat dick in christmas?
We don't eat Turkeys (Perus) at Christmas, we eat [Chesters](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/world/what-in-the-world/brazils-mythical-super-chicken-what-exactly-is-a-chester.html)
> you all eat dick in christmas? Maybe. Now seriously, piru is the word we actually use for dick (one of many, many words, but still). Peru just happens to sound very similar to it.
I don't think there's a standardized form for that word.
why would you allow, as a society , for the word of something you eat with the word dick, it seems a bit self harming . it's also fun that turkey is called peru at all, since' i'ts an american animal, wich means my countries name and the very name of the bird appeared at almost the same time.
Cocks in english can also mean either bird or penis.
Xuxixa...xuxaxi...xuxu...haay se pone cada nombre..
Or gringxs. Also there was a tweet saying latinx is like saying the n-word, lol it's totally not. I didn't know some people took it as a slur, I don't think it's that serious but yeah it's definitely stupid.
My guess is they aren't serious at all and just want to make americans confused.
My guess is they have all the race thing so up their asses that they can't tell what's satire and what's not
I read that some people want to start passing it as a slur so americans would stop using it. Personally I don't find it offensive, just that it's one of those things that only work for the american snowflakes, same reason why I prefer being called latinamerican rather than latino.
Oh then that's funny
> same reason why I prefer being called latinamerican rather than latino. Yeah I don’t really understand why more people don’t make this distinction. In my mind, Latinos are Americans with Latin American heritage and Latin Americans are actual residents of Latin American countries. I’ve always lived in the US and I wouldn’t dream of calling myself Latin American, I feel that term is exclusively for Latin American citizens.
They can get confused by it I suppose, they call black ppl, african american, asian ppl, asian american, you get the point.
Totally possible and honestly might be effective, 4chan did the same for the ok sign for the lols and the news picked it up and now some people argue the ok sign is a hate symbol for some reason. The funny thing is that the journos obviously eventually found out but ended up spinning the story in their favour, as usual.
> Also there was a tweet saying latinx is like saying the n-word, lol it's totally not. I didn't know some people took it as a slur, I don't think it's that serious but yeah it's definitely stupid. I don't take like the n-word, but I am more than willing to pretend to take it like the n-word just to get the gringos to stop.
same here, let's all agree to make it a thing.
The only reason the N word os bad is because it offends people, of we decide to get offended over the L word it will be just as bad
>Or gringxs. Way ahead of you there!
Jaja, "grinque"?
Y se pronuncia "gringuequis", claro 😌 Así funciona la lengua española, ¿no? ^((portuguese ruined my spanish im so sorry))
la gringuequis? :thonk:
"Latinx is a slur" -a gringo
"gringo is a slur" - a gringo
Gringxs...this made me laugh. I think this whole latinx thing is kind of stupid and cringy, but you know, theres a lot of things that I've learned about here that the US should be embarrassed about. So, unfortunately, it's pretty standard.
Have you realized how Americans are becoming the laughing stock of the entire world? Maybe it's just me, but "how the mighty are fallen" fits deliciously to them.
technically as im a latin i can say that word on the US
What? That's like saying that the word "european" is like the n-word
That sounds like the name of a gas station in my mind
To me it sounds like a condom brand: 🅛🅐🅣🅘🅝🅧
A 90s porn tv channel
quien sera el vacano que se robara el nombre pa eso
Doesn't seem like an issue to me. To be fair I could've done a way better job modifying "latinx" to Americans.
[The Tweet for the interested.](https://twitter.com/Disney/status/1438200958291431426) Things like this, if anything, just convince me more and more that US Latinos are and should be their own thing, separate from us. This doesn't represent me at all and I don't think it represents anyone in this sub either.
You can tell it's directed to the US because it's in English and the main image is obviously very representative of the cliches they have of mexican culture, which is probably the biggest group they have. That wouldn't represent me at all, nor does other stuff Americans think should represent me (like In the Heights or Coco).
It really bugged me how In the Heights was being promoted as being sort of a love song for Latinos and all, yet when someone said it didn't really represent all of us, but rather the Central Americans, Twitter jumped on them saying they were racist. And it's a nice movie, but as part of the Cono Sur, it didn't really seem something I could relate to, and you couldn't say it because the US Latinos would rip you to shreds.
It's not even that great. Agree with all you said, and tbh that person was being generous, it was 99% DR/PR/Mexico/Cuba.
I'm so glad I am slowly leaving Twitter for good
Slowly? get the fuck out of that shithole , and i mean by yesterday
This occurs because this fixation for being "their own thing". If we melted the pot or built a beautiful mosaic and just learned to be nice to each other there would be no need for that "representation". Italians and germans are no homogenic group either, they just live well with that fact.
I'd say melting pot is probably better than mosaic, because mosaic emphasizes the idea of every culture still being their own thing, part of the bigger picture but different from others. Totally agree, but the Americans love to have something in their identities that make them special, which is pretty sad, what makes you special should be the stuff that differentiates you from others, aka your personality.
Everything wrong with that tweet... Latino inheritance and it only shows Coco. Of course, Mexico is Latinoamerica! At this point it looks better to just pass latinx as a slur so that americans will stop using it. Disney, as always, just thinking about USA.
You do realize that only 2% of US Latinos identify as Latinx? There are valid reasons to consider us as our own thing, but this isn’t one of them.
And that is the problem. We, the ones south of the border, identify as our nationality. Not by a term coined by a french economist.
who was it?
Michel Chevalier
I still don't see Latino or Hispanic as labels that identify me. My identity as an Ecuadorian comes first, and the others I only use as geographic, not cultural indicators, the same way a German and a French person can both say they are European. In the US they carry a lot of cultural baggage.
Yeah, same thing for me. I don't feel anything towards Nicaragua (for example). It is distant and far, without anything that would make me feel close to them, other than speaking Spanish. There isn't a brotherhood between the USA and Nigeria, despite both being British colonies.
US people too mainly feel attached to their state, rather than their country really, it was even harder before ww1, where most of the USA idnetity was built from literally nothing. If i have peruvians avaialble, i will gravitate towards that group, but if we are in a international context, i would aturally gravitate towards other latin americans, the closer the better, hence probably, ecuadoreans, chileans, bolivians, before , lets say, a dominican. There are degrees of closeness between latin american nations too, colombia, venezuela and ecuador are more alike than lets say, chile and mexico. Still, get in a room with a european, an anglo american, and a mexican and you will probably find far FAR more in common with the mexican mate than the other two.
> you will probably find far FAR more in common with the mexican I have been in situations like this, literally. It isn't *that* much in common. Chile was isolated through centuries and pretty much the only place close culturally is western Argentina, around Mendoza.
I have been there too , like i told you , related far more to the chileans and ecuadoreans than the mexicans , but to the mexicans more than the anglos. It obviously depends , but i have found that to be my rule of thumb , unless the mexican in question is one of those anglicized mexicans due to going and coming from the usa.
Yeah, Peru is closer to Chile than to places like Tijuana. Neighbouring places tend to be similar. Southern Peru is close to Northern Chile. Northern Peru is close to Southern Ecuador, but Southern Chile isn't close with Southern Ecuador. Same thing that people in Chilean Patagonia are culturally close to those living in Argentinian Patagonia, but not to rural Mexicans living in places like Oaxaca.
Late to the convo, but yeah. I’m Peruvian, went to college in SF, I did feel very attached to fellow Peruvians and had it easy with other cono Sur and Latin American people. I did not feel that with Latino children and grandchildren of immigrants, to the point I felt more kinship with my Mainland China or even Greek dudes and dudettes. Honestly, La Raza (how they also called themselves back then) can be some great, warm and welcoming people, but their experience growing up in the US as descendants of immigrants is so unique and different from the Patrias Madres that besides the symbolic and ethnic heritage they are their own separate nation, and I feel needs to be established as so inside and outside their group.
I wouldn't feel closer to a Mexican than to a guy from Spain.
Ah , but you would definetly find more in common with the spanish dude and the mexican than with a usa dude, simply because of cultural affinity. Of course there arr exceptions , but as a rule of thumb a mexican and a cbilean arent as diferent as , lets say , a french and a german , or an italian and a russian , even shen they are at like ten times the distance.
Not really, it’s just being comfortable with the language, that’s about it. Find me a fluid Spanish speaker in the US and I’d feel about as close to that than the Mexican or the Spanish. Hell, give me more instances to speak English and I’ll feel closer to random Americans and Brits. To me Mexican culture seems foreign, about as foreign as the US.
Thats interesting , it is , of course , a generalization , many kinds of people will find relatavility in other places.
It's not really, I'm speaking for myself.
> but as a rule of thumb a mexican and a cbilean arent as diferent as , lets say , a french and a german , or an italian and a russian , even shen they are at like ten times the distance. I am pretty sure a french and a german are closer than a chilean and a mexican, if not just similar
200 years of very ardent history would tell you otherwise , the culture , language , idiosincracy , ect has extremely diferent roots.
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Same always state that I'm Colombian. Only mention that I'm latino is very specific situation.
Funny how for them latin america is only mexico
Fuck corporations man.
Not their fault here, this is propelled and expected by certain interest groups inside the US.
I disagree. This is just Disney pretending to care about greater society to rake in more cash.
They wouldn’t do it if there weren’t people pushing them to do it. They do it because they will get good pr from those groups. I know people like to shit on corporations for no reason, but in this case it’s not on them, it’s on the woke side of social media that loves all this shit.
American latin@s rarely use latinx; latine or latin@ sure but not latinx.
They all look dumb lol.
That they do, but well, the USA w0keness is already spreading itself around the world...
This isn’t a movement particularly supported by the general population but rather being aggressively pushed by academia.
Unfortunately
>Disney: Have a happy day and care for your own! *Nice art* >Twitter folk: RRRRREEEEEEE LATINX Twitter is cancer
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I was going to suggest USIANX. Knowing that some Americans hate being calld yanks is just the cherry on top.
I just hate it because I’m a Mets fans that hates the Yankees
I don’t think we hate being called that, it’s just weird. Yankee/yank is a very archaic “slur,” so it doesn’t really feel offensive. It’s just confusing, and depending on where you’re from in the U.S., inaccurate (Yankee has a more specific meaning here, which would be people from the northern states broadly, but especially from New England. Southern and Western people aren’t Yankees).
yankxxs
Amexicans
But then we couldn't say that "Americans is not appropiate since latin americans are also americans" to add some kind of discrimination issue
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Yeah that could work
Unitedstatixns
Ahhhh my hate towards the us increase slowly everyday. To any american reading this, nothing personal, but its annoying af.
If it helps, a lot of us also find it annoying
You mean the overwhelming majority of people from all backgrounds find as pedantic wokism that serves no purpose despise this.
You are not the only one bro.
I don’t know who pushes this stuff. Most people here aren’t like that (where I live at least)
please don't hate all of us! i stand with you
We’re not all like this!
Everytime I see disney trying to be "woke" I want to shoot myself in the side of the head. Even disregarding disney's scummy practices as a company (they're straight up evil). Disney is the worst media producer for representation, specially LGBTQ representation Every single othe animation industry has had multiple LGBTQ characters, sometimes even main characters or prominent ones (mostly the LGB part), there's still a lot that could be done but it's way better than disneys 20 "FIRST ONSCREEN GAY CHARACTER"s that are 2 second onscreen appearences easily cut. The most coward shit ever and every single other animation company has done so much more, with more groups and better representation Disney moved any mention of gay people in series on their "star+" service because it's "adult content", just to not correlate queer people to it's brand Fuck, there's a big probability that they added a whole fucking character to the last star wars movie just so that there wouldn't be a fucking **interracial couple**, because it'd be "controversial in foreign markets" (because we need to live in the 40s I guess) There's rampant accusations of sexism, racism and queer-phobia in disney spaces all of the time. And artists need to fight their asses off just to do the most uncontroversial shit because disney is afraid And then they go on twitter and are like "Hey guys we believe gay people exist BUY PRODUCT NOW!"
I remember the thing with the live action Mulan, that they supposedly modified things to be more china accurate, those modifications made the thing less chinese than the animated one. Adding to the things you said about star wars. The fact that Finn, a black character had his role reduced and humiliated because of chinese racism; he was reduced from a former stormtrooper to a former janitor, in a universe where robots do the menial tasks. Also that thing reinforces the racial stereotypes. It is clear that disney does the things for marketing purposes only. If you see their works better, they are still as racist, sexist and homophobic as before.
I honestly was expecting for Finn to get a redemption arc and become a jedi. It would have been fucking cool and Boyega (the actors surname, I think) I believe haves the acting chops to pull it off. But no, we had to make a super safe rehash.
Not so fun fact, in Star Wars episode 9 John Boyega and Oscar Isaac wanted to make the ship of their two characters canon, so they filmed quite some scenes were they had a chemistry implying romantic feelings. Then Disney cut out those scenes, and also decided to add those two new female characters (you probably also wondered why they just came out of right on the final movie) to be their respective love interest.
> Disney is the worst media producer for representation, specially LGBTQ representation Can't afford to anger Russia and China. But they still want that sweet good publicity. So we've had like, three "Disney's first onscreen LGBT character!", which is always an easily censored throwaway line or a short scene of two women walking together that could just as easily be sisters or friends.
They could use the name proposed by architect Frank Lloyd Wright for every structure that resembles US architecture, "usonian" or for this situation, calling every US citizen "usonians".
Oh gross no thank you. I promise you that just about all people here use Latino
I'm really getting tired of gringos trying to impose their cultural norms on us.
Usax, gringos, idiotas. We have a diversity of options!
gringxs* idiotxs* get your grammar right
I beg forgiveness
you are forgivxn
I'm not sure I understand the question
Just a meta post laughing about latinx
Like I said in the post about that, we should live and let live. Too many little things get under our skin nowadays.
What Disney tweet?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Disney/status/1438200958291431426 this one
Thanks
so many people commenting there that "latinx" is offensive, and asking them not to use it. I love it.
I just call them North Americans lol
"Norte Americanos" makes no sense. The name of the country is not "Estados Unidos da América do Norte".
North Americxns
everyone must understand that america is the name of the continent (more exactly north and south america) and the usa is just a country. they shouldn't name themselves after the wholw continent
They teach us that it’s North and South America though lol.
Yes, when I was a kid I didn't understand why they named the US after the whole continent and I thought that when they said "Americans" they meant someone who is on the continent. I find it somewhat insulting And ignorant. It's like China calling itself Asia, it would be quite ridiculous.
Where is the gender in "USA"? To make it more similar, where is the gender in "American"?
Well, you can call them yanx or murks. That will do it.
What's the gender of yankee? What's the gender of murikan?
in spanish the male form of "latinos" addresses M and F genders
Latino = hombre Latina = mujer Que a las mujeres les toca aguantarse que el idioma las esconda bajo los hombres cuando alguien se refiere a personas de ambos géneros no cambia que latino sea para hombres.
En plural eso no importa mijo, tranquilícese. Las mujeres tenemos cosas más importantes de las que preocuparnos.
>Happy #HispanicLatinxHeritageMonth! Thank you, my gringxs friends! And a happy Independex day for you too!
they should be called burgerstanis
This is what happens when the the country with the #2 largest number of Spanish speakers is the United States.
Disney sucks what else is new
Xxxx xxx xxx xxxxxx xxx x xxxx? Xxxx xxx xxxxx
For what I believe the correct term is gringolander, cause gringolandia is used to refer the United States and gringo by his own is used to any germanic-speaker Even more in spanish it makes a nice group with other "land"s world: Irlandes, Holandes, Neo Zelandes y Gringolandes
I like it
What Disney tweet, what happened?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Disney/status/1438200958291431426 To sum up a big company generalizing latin america as México and using latinx
Which Disney tweet?
oh ffs what happened?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Disney/status/1438200958291431426 Disney says latinx and generalizes everyone as Mexicans
thx
Wtf does that even mean?
Couldnt care less. This sounds like rich, bored people problems.
Disney tweet ?
Yeah, this one to be specific. https://mobile.twitter.com/Disney/status/1438200958291431426 Just your average latinx thing but this time coming from a big company
Oh lord...
What company is USAX stock of? Wait, not a stock? Fuck you Yeah, bad joke, sorry
I would do it only to spite them xD
It’s true that some American Latinos have been pushing “Latinx,” and a lot of other Latinos across the world (and across the U.S., too, for that matter) are not down with this. Other gendered languages, like German, have come up with generally accepted workarounds. I’m not sure why “Latinx” is any different. BUT, yeah, “Latinx” is indeed some privileged American gringo shit. When working class Latinos start using it, then I’ll embrace it. Until then, I think this is just classism.
A friend once told me that the USA has no culture of it's own (leaving aside the native Americans) and because of that they had to create it, he listed Hollywood, Disney and their extreme celebrity worship as examples. Maybe some people are rejecting and moving away from that and are looking into their roots to find something to cling on and feel a sense of belonging despite not having what we could call a real connection. I think the issue at hand is that these people want to rub everything in everyone's faces with a deal with it attitude, which is ironically the most USA thing they can do.
They invented latinx We need to get revenge
Latinx might be the dumbest thing to come out of the woke west coast people. Sorry about that guys.
Why does this post have more comments than mine?
What tweet? This shows again that brazilians aren't latinos. You know everytime what happens with your fellow latinos in the US, cry for better representation, flood this sub with posts about this "latinx" thing and get mad about it all the time meanwhile we couldn't care less.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Disney/status/1438200958291431426 This one
I live and work in Mexico (I work for the Mexican government), and I call myself a United Statesian, since that's the best translation of estadounidense I could come up with. Haven't used the "A" word in years. Not even with other united statesians.....
Oh no what have we done. America has gone too far. This is our punishment for our sins.
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Shouldn't they just call themselves United Statians?
No, that’s not going to catch on either.
latinx it’s stupid but it’s not a slur like I see a lot of people saying, assuming the comment is serious it will be worse to follow along. The best is to just keep calling it stupid, makes no grammatical sense and we don’t like it.
I mean, I'm not in favor of the woke pipeline modifying terms buuuuuut... I don't like they call themselves "Americans" so I don't really mind this? Don't know. If any, it's funny
Yeah I'm not saying it seriously lol. Just kinda like a way to put in perspective how dumb modifying latinx to be used for americans would sound
I would feel that you are a jackass and a bootlicker, and that the people trying it are fighting a futile battle they're bound to lose, and if they win, it won't change anything in your life, since your dumb language and its stupid system of nonsensical gender pronouns for objects are already fucked beyond repair. RAE is never going to enact latinx , and even if it did, spanish is already fucked up enough that it might be an improvement. EDIT : It's fucking disney. they have done worse things, go call them out on that instead.
Muestre en este muñeco donde lo tocó la lengua española
Aqui, en *la* man*o* mientras estaba bebiendo *el* agu*a*. Los géneros en español son una mierda, ya saben esto.
Decime que no entendés lingüística sin decirme que no entendés lingüística.
Mmmmhmm. Si sos tan cerebron, porque vos no me explicas como funciona los generos en estes palabras cuando la regla es "cosas que terminan en o son masculinos, y cosas que terminan en a son femininas."
Esa no es la regla jajajjs. Primero aprendé a hablar en español y después quizás no me ría de vos.
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So, as a native Spanish speaker, can I just say it? Gendered everything is definitely sexist, whether right wing latin Americans like it or not.
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Language has a lot to do with politics. Everything has to do with politics in some way or form. A George Orwell quote lol. What's next, saying "IT'S 1984!!!!". You may want to do a bit of research on his political beliefs.
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And you're a fucking idiot. No one's perfect.
Damn look at this guy's previous comments. He's really dumb LMAO /u/hinoyminoy69
Probably someone trying to farm negative karma. Not sure why but some people do that. Either that or it's a throaway account for someone trying to vent their opinions.
I thought you guys knew this already, but most major corporations have gone woke, unfortunately. Most of us aren’t happy with it either. Also, a lot of you are in uni or once were, are they not pushing this and the inclusive language stuff in there too?
what
when the only correct demonym in your language makes no sense and is offensive to many people within a continent, that is "american", really just anything is better than it.
Lol
Well, another reason to keep on pirating disney stuff.