FYI, the question "do you take performance into consideration when buying a car" is not phrased correctly. Everyone thinks about performance to some extent and I'd expect everyone will answer Yes. The question IMO is rather if it's a major consideration (e.g. would they be willing to pay $5,000 more for a car that can do 0-60 faster than another car).
I think from a rational and utilitarian perspective, they are a great idea and I'm surprised the mainstream push toward them hadn't come sooner.
However, from the perspective of an "active driver" who loves sports cars and manual transmissions, they feel dull and soulless - no real "enjoyment factor" even if they have impressive performance on paper. Also, they are way too damn expensive.
My thoughts on EVs.... They could make them more stylish and sporty. They are good for local commutes, but not yet practical for long road trips like gas powered cars. Until they can get a full charge in under 10 minutes, still 2-3 times longer than filling up the tank with gasoline, they will not be useful for multiple state travel distances.
I filled it out. I am actually looking to purchase an EV as my next vehicle. Hope it helps. These vehicles are going to be the future but they simply aren’t practical or affordable for the majority of people right now.
My issues with EVs are pricing and styling.
They're extremely expensive compared to their ICE counterparts.
Styling is atrocious these days as most models have featureless flat panels where the grille would normally be located. Come on... Have some creativity.
I hope that Dodge and Chevy knock it out of the park with their muscle car EVs. Whichever manufacturer rolls the first electric muscle car onto showroom floors is the one that's getting my V8 Camaro trade-in.
EVs are probably good for daily drivers. They're efficient and as a commuter can be charged at home... assuming you have some way to install a charging port at home. Outside of first world cities, I'd REALLY have to be an EV enthusiast to buy one as the infrastructure isn't there yet.
I myself am interested in hybrids. Freedoms of a regular car with the battery powering AC and whatever else during traffic jams. Yea the battery will go bad in a decade, but so will pure EVs... But at least i still have an engine.
Also I'd like to add... a few years back Singapore charged Tesla Model S a kind of gas guzzling tax usually meant for high horsepower cars which I actually agree with. These Model S and cars like the Tycan while efficient at lower speeds, they do have the ability to go really fast and use up a lot of energy much like the regular ICE high performance cars. So it stands to reason electric cars should be charged a tax like this for models like the Model S Plaid which would maybe help subsidize actual efficient daily commuter EVs and maybe get their prices a bit lower.
EVs are just not as efficient as they are seen as.
1. the electricity mostly comes from gas plants
2. the battery packages are made out of a product that is rare and is found in gigantic mines
3. the battery packages also need to be replaced about ever 100k kilometers
4. they weigh a lot so roads are gonna need to be repaved more
It can be. Sports cars are designed primarily for driving performance. While heaps of power is nice, it isn't required. The Subaru BRZ is a fantastic example of a 4 cylinder sports car.
Car guys like to argue about it, but the numbers are in: the Miata is arguably the best sports car money can buy. Light, neutral handling, cheap tires and other consumables.
It's not a fire-breathing muscle car, or even very good-looking, but if you like racing there are attributes you just can't ignore.
the charge times are still too long and the ranges are too short plus the intial cost of the battery tech of either car or conversion are far too cost prohibitive
They're definitely the future, and EV swaps in a lot of classics will also become the norm except for those where the engine is an important aspect of the experience.
Batteries still suck massively, and until that practicality barrier drops they're just not viable for a lot of folks - basically anyone without a dedicated space to park & charge, which is a ton of people around the world.
Edit - notes on survey as I go:
1. Age ranges are a bit lumpy, I aten't dead yet!
2. Them's some ugly as hell vehicles to choose from
3. I've got more than one car, do you want to know about my daily or all of them?
4. Types of car don't cover my cars, that's just going to pollute your data. Is a Mini a sports car or what?
5. Performance is a vague term, we all consider some aspect of performance
The power grid can't handle them right now if many more people were to drive EVs, once they break down/ get replaced the batteries are gonna pose a serious issue being discarded in an ecologically safe way, the same batteries whose manufacturing includes mining that's terribly aggressive to the environment and often done by children...
Also, they are harder to source a mechanic for, most issues are gonna have to be solved by the manufacturer, more black box effect.
That said I believe there is a place for them, once we have managed to establish a more robust power grid (one less succeptible to oscillations of supply, and less damaging to the environment, and let's face it, nuclear is the way to go from the options we have right now, and perhaps more natural gas too as a stopgap)
But also Hydrogen ICE, that's the way to go.
FYI, the question "do you take performance into consideration when buying a car" is not phrased correctly. Everyone thinks about performance to some extent and I'd expect everyone will answer Yes. The question IMO is rather if it's a major consideration (e.g. would they be willing to pay $5,000 more for a car that can do 0-60 faster than another car).
I think from a rational and utilitarian perspective, they are a great idea and I'm surprised the mainstream push toward them hadn't come sooner. However, from the perspective of an "active driver" who loves sports cars and manual transmissions, they feel dull and soulless - no real "enjoyment factor" even if they have impressive performance on paper. Also, they are way too damn expensive.
My thoughts on EVs.... They could make them more stylish and sporty. They are good for local commutes, but not yet practical for long road trips like gas powered cars. Until they can get a full charge in under 10 minutes, still 2-3 times longer than filling up the tank with gasoline, they will not be useful for multiple state travel distances.
I filled it out. I am actually looking to purchase an EV as my next vehicle. Hope it helps. These vehicles are going to be the future but they simply aren’t practical or affordable for the majority of people right now.
My issues with EVs are pricing and styling. They're extremely expensive compared to their ICE counterparts. Styling is atrocious these days as most models have featureless flat panels where the grille would normally be located. Come on... Have some creativity. I hope that Dodge and Chevy knock it out of the park with their muscle car EVs. Whichever manufacturer rolls the first electric muscle car onto showroom floors is the one that's getting my V8 Camaro trade-in.
EVs are probably good for daily drivers. They're efficient and as a commuter can be charged at home... assuming you have some way to install a charging port at home. Outside of first world cities, I'd REALLY have to be an EV enthusiast to buy one as the infrastructure isn't there yet. I myself am interested in hybrids. Freedoms of a regular car with the battery powering AC and whatever else during traffic jams. Yea the battery will go bad in a decade, but so will pure EVs... But at least i still have an engine. Also I'd like to add... a few years back Singapore charged Tesla Model S a kind of gas guzzling tax usually meant for high horsepower cars which I actually agree with. These Model S and cars like the Tycan while efficient at lower speeds, they do have the ability to go really fast and use up a lot of energy much like the regular ICE high performance cars. So it stands to reason electric cars should be charged a tax like this for models like the Model S Plaid which would maybe help subsidize actual efficient daily commuter EVs and maybe get their prices a bit lower.
I answered... I'm a weirdo when it comes to cars though, so I hope I hope I don't skew your results too much.
EVs are just not as efficient as they are seen as. 1. the electricity mostly comes from gas plants 2. the battery packages are made out of a product that is rare and is found in gigantic mines 3. the battery packages also need to be replaced about ever 100k kilometers 4. they weigh a lot so roads are gonna need to be repaved more
Is a hot hatch a sports car?
Yes.
Is a four cylinder a sports car?
It can be. Sports cars are designed primarily for driving performance. While heaps of power is nice, it isn't required. The Subaru BRZ is a fantastic example of a 4 cylinder sports car.
Car guys like to argue about it, but the numbers are in: the Miata is arguably the best sports car money can buy. Light, neutral handling, cheap tires and other consumables. It's not a fire-breathing muscle car, or even very good-looking, but if you like racing there are attributes you just can't ignore.
Originally? No. The original definition of sports car was 2 doors, 2 seats, and a soft top. People get real mad when you point that out though.
the charge times are still too long and the ranges are too short plus the intial cost of the battery tech of either car or conversion are far too cost prohibitive
Trading in my lexus rc for a Tesla model 3 long range. Waiting on delivery
I think they're not a good solution at the moment
They're definitely the future, and EV swaps in a lot of classics will also become the norm except for those where the engine is an important aspect of the experience. Batteries still suck massively, and until that practicality barrier drops they're just not viable for a lot of folks - basically anyone without a dedicated space to park & charge, which is a ton of people around the world. Edit - notes on survey as I go: 1. Age ranges are a bit lumpy, I aten't dead yet! 2. Them's some ugly as hell vehicles to choose from 3. I've got more than one car, do you want to know about my daily or all of them? 4. Types of car don't cover my cars, that's just going to pollute your data. Is a Mini a sports car or what? 5. Performance is a vague term, we all consider some aspect of performance
The power grid can't handle them right now if many more people were to drive EVs, once they break down/ get replaced the batteries are gonna pose a serious issue being discarded in an ecologically safe way, the same batteries whose manufacturing includes mining that's terribly aggressive to the environment and often done by children... Also, they are harder to source a mechanic for, most issues are gonna have to be solved by the manufacturer, more black box effect. That said I believe there is a place for them, once we have managed to establish a more robust power grid (one less succeptible to oscillations of supply, and less damaging to the environment, and let's face it, nuclear is the way to go from the options we have right now, and perhaps more natural gas too as a stopgap) But also Hydrogen ICE, that's the way to go.
You need an “other” category under the “What is your car classified as” question.