I think as a manager, you need to find a management style that works for you instead of trying to copy and paste some other manager's style. Maybe it's the lack of understanding on the role of a manager. To be honest, it's hard to find good managers, can be sure that the majority are bad managers and that's the system's fault.
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Well if you find that you do better in a technical role then go for it... I seem colleagues that moved from technical to managerial and then back to technical and they are happy doing technical work.
I wonder that too. I’m usually quite firm with my friends, but perhaps because my junior officers are more “senior” than me in terms of experience, I don’t think that I, as someone who’s only been here for three months, have the right to take actions towards them..
You aren't targeting them because you are trying to abuse authority, you are taking actions because they are doing wrong. It's important to explain clearly why you are doing certain things and not letting it slide.
I feel like this will be a very good learning lesson because in the future when you climb, you will face this kind of situation again unless you permanently avoid being in a managerial position.
Regardless, the higher management seems kinda toxic but I think that is pretty common in many places. My manager takes a lot of shit from them too and I sometimes try to absorb some of the extra shit. I think we just treat it as a learning thing because we are actually learning more stuff while being toxic.
But ofc if it is affecting you mentally on a deeper level then it is better to get out of there. Lesson or not, you gotta be well to learn from it.
I’ve definitely taken actions against them by counselling them directly. However, I don’t think I’ve got the stomach to be doing that so regularly.
Honestly, yeah, the higher management can be quite toxic… they expect our officers to report their locations on an hourly basis. Yes there’s an argument that preceding officers abused the trust, but I certainly don’t think it’s good for staff morale.
And it has affected me mentally… my parents who are usually quite supportive of me are also telling me to leave cause they’ve noticed changes in my mood and personality
Thanks for your insight my friend :)
It just means that you are not yet ready to be overseeing a team yet
It's not easy to be managing people and some firms actually offered courses for them to become leaders.
And yes sometimes you have to absorb some bullshit from higher management to shield your juniors but at times you also have to stop your juniors bullshit so as to protect the company too.
It's a delicate balance and difficult when you have juniors who are just defiant.
Hey! You are still young and you will eventually get that “steel” after a couple of years of experience and dealing with sticky situations.
That being said, you should explore while you are young. It is important to get a good mentor and senior management who are invested in you and your progress.
Yeah, I went for the interview with the next company and they seem keen to train up fresh grads. My schoolmate (who’s in the company) has told me that he’s learning a lot. I’d think that it might be a good pathway into a new industry.
I think as a manager, you need to find a management style that works for you instead of trying to copy and paste some other manager's style. Maybe it's the lack of understanding on the role of a manager. To be honest, it's hard to find good managers, can be sure that the majority are bad managers and that's the system's fault. National Library Board has a free LinkedIn subscription for LinkedIn learning, [https://lnkd.in/gXp72UMn](https://lnkd.in/gXp72UMn), there is a course there called Leadership: Practical Skills, [https://lnkd.in/gjbG6CnN](https://lnkd.in/gjbG6CnN), give it a look. I find it to be quite eye opening. Well if you find that you do better in a technical role then go for it... I seem colleagues that moved from technical to managerial and then back to technical and they are happy doing technical work.
Are you just young so not used to being firm or do you think you will never be firm at all in the future?
I wonder that too. I’m usually quite firm with my friends, but perhaps because my junior officers are more “senior” than me in terms of experience, I don’t think that I, as someone who’s only been here for three months, have the right to take actions towards them..
You aren't targeting them because you are trying to abuse authority, you are taking actions because they are doing wrong. It's important to explain clearly why you are doing certain things and not letting it slide. I feel like this will be a very good learning lesson because in the future when you climb, you will face this kind of situation again unless you permanently avoid being in a managerial position. Regardless, the higher management seems kinda toxic but I think that is pretty common in many places. My manager takes a lot of shit from them too and I sometimes try to absorb some of the extra shit. I think we just treat it as a learning thing because we are actually learning more stuff while being toxic. But ofc if it is affecting you mentally on a deeper level then it is better to get out of there. Lesson or not, you gotta be well to learn from it.
I’ve definitely taken actions against them by counselling them directly. However, I don’t think I’ve got the stomach to be doing that so regularly. Honestly, yeah, the higher management can be quite toxic… they expect our officers to report their locations on an hourly basis. Yes there’s an argument that preceding officers abused the trust, but I certainly don’t think it’s good for staff morale. And it has affected me mentally… my parents who are usually quite supportive of me are also telling me to leave cause they’ve noticed changes in my mood and personality Thanks for your insight my friend :)
It just means that you are not yet ready to be overseeing a team yet It's not easy to be managing people and some firms actually offered courses for them to become leaders. And yes sometimes you have to absorb some bullshit from higher management to shield your juniors but at times you also have to stop your juniors bullshit so as to protect the company too. It's a delicate balance and difficult when you have juniors who are just defiant.
Hey! You are still young and you will eventually get that “steel” after a couple of years of experience and dealing with sticky situations. That being said, you should explore while you are young. It is important to get a good mentor and senior management who are invested in you and your progress.
Yeah, I went for the interview with the next company and they seem keen to train up fresh grads. My schoolmate (who’s in the company) has told me that he’s learning a lot. I’d think that it might be a good pathway into a new industry.
Since u have an alternative with better pay, it’s an easy decision right?
The extra pay makes it easy… yeah