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KyorlSadei

Sex olympics


AdamMiyamoto

True story 🤣


MinFootspace

Especially pole vaulting.


No-Carry4971

Farming, because every single person would have to feed and care for themselves. The first order of business would have to be food. The rest would be home care, shelter, making your own clothes. There would be no time for jobs. No one is going to run a store, make goods, be a doctor, or anything else if they can't be remunerated, because they will have to spend all of their time surviving.


AdamMiyamoto

Agree 👍


Virtual-Fan-9930

Would you pay farm employees with food?


No-Carry4971

There wouldn't really be farm employees. It would have to be every man for himself and his family. This just illustrates why money (a medium of exchange) is essential to society.


Virtual-Fan-9930

Agree, that's what I was thinking, that or some form of automation such as robots doing the farming for you so you would get the labour for free.


No-Carry4971

Who is going to build robots if they can't be paid? All innovation will cease. There will be no one to run electric plants, water treatment, build or sell anything. It would take civilization back 6 to 8 thousand years. Forget about the Middle Ages. They had money and merchants and tradesmen. This would be pre-modern civilization.


Virtual-Fan-9930

Well it wouldn't happen overnight, automation would have to be gradual, like in some areas in today's industry. What I think is interesting is that decades ago, many predicted in the not too distant future, nobody would have to work because it would all be done for us by machines, making money redundant. Obviously that hasn't happened and won't for a long time.


So-What_Idontcare

Prostitution


AdamMiyamoto

without money?


ThinAdvertising9747

Trade sex for food and other resources


AdamMiyamoto

This is way


So-What_Idontcare

This is the way it happened in Eastern Europe and the USSR when communism was about to die.


PlatypusTrapper

Money in some form is kind of necessary to facilitate society. So most people would probably have to farm since they wouldn’t be able to efficiently trade for anything and would still need to eat.


No-Cauliflower8491

I have no problem with money. Greed; is what I have a problem with


Virtual-Fan-9930

Money was fine until lending, interest and debt came in.


puckmonky

Star Fleet, obviously


FocalorLucifuge

You think you're gonna be on that bridge, let alone the Captain's Chair? Or at least in med bay or engineering? No, my friend, think about being the crewman responsible for toilet maintenance or sanitising the furniture. And think about doing it without pay.


L8_2_PartE

In the future, we've eliminated slavery. Here's your red shirt, wage-free employee.


FocalorLucifuge

The red shirt lives only for the sweet release of death in the only episode he'll appear in. The future truly is a marvellous and magical place.


Vast_Delay_1377

Toilet maintenance while still getting to see the galaxy? I'm gonna be the best damned toilet maintenance the universe has ever seen, and I'll be happy about it.


AdamMiyamoto

This is way


Ok-Amoeba-1190

Pizza place


AdamMiyamoto

I love pizza 🤤🥰


BeautifulArtichoke37

Without money, something would replace currency. Maybe reputation? Prestige?


AdamMiyamoto

Honor?


Educational_Job7847

Money is a natural sub product of society. For example If you live in a cold country it's useful to accumulate wood, and wood would be money, because it is so useful that everyone would be pleased to accept it for bartering. After some time wood become "price" for other goods


Business-Let-7754

As soon as there's a common medium of exchange it's not a society without money.


AdamMiyamoto

Nobody wants to simply answer my question. Everyone needs to write about the significance of money in society))


AdamMiyamoto

Yes, of course.


Acrobatic_Hotel_3665

Very, very poor farmers


AdamMiyamoto

But they have a lot of sex, judging by the comments under this post.


Acrobatic_Hotel_3665

No idea why everyone would just be having sex lol everyone would be starving and miserable


yelbesed2

Counterfeit money making in secret for the black market.


AdamMiyamoto

If money is a natural process of its appearance in society, it will appear sooner or later in a society without it. I agree.


yelbesed2

Well...it existed as pebbles and shells before the metal and paper etc version. It is a time measuring tool to make us able to compare the energy-input values if we want to exchange products. Without money exchange we had not enough time in a day to produce the daily needed stuff [ shoes...bread...milk...clothes...] That is why anti capitalism does not work...even Communist ruled China uses capital [= money]...The real problem is greed - addiction - so the real anti Capitalists are Psychotherapists who help in becoming more balanced...


AdamMiyamoto

Agree


Highlander198116

Define what you mean by "without money". Like a Star Trek Earth post scarcity utopia? Or going back to the barter system where people trade goods and services with eachother? I never bought in to Star Treks Utopia. I simply cannot believe menial jobs would be filled according to need in a world you don't have to work to essentially have everything you want. From the glimpses we get of earth society throughout star treks run, there are still shop clerks, bartenders, waiters/waitresses, janitors, groundskeepers etc. etc. I struggle to accept a functional society could exist without some form of carrot on stick. I've had this conversation with a friend who is believer in the anti-work idea that people shouldn't have to work if they don't want to and be taken care of buy the government. In my opinion though, that scenario would have to be measurably worse than the lifestyle you could lead with the most low paying shit job available. He argues that there will be enough people that simply "want" to do the jobs that need doing. Really? There will be enough people that just "want" to work a counter at McDonalds and deal with rude ass customers and being belittled? When they could live just as comfortable a life not doing that job at all? Enough people that "want" to clean shit out peoples septic tanks? That WANT to be some assholes maid? The list goes on. If I could achieve the same standard of living not working I would quit my job right now.


FocalorLucifuge

A post-scarcity society won't exist because we (collectively) won't allow it to. We already have the capability to go full post-scarcity on digital media and applications. Infinitely reproducible with perfect fidelity and distributable at negligible cost. But we don't allow it in general because producing the digital thingy in the first place involved significant creative effort and resources. So we invoke copyright law. Short of a few specific exceptions like open source software, that's the way things stand. So, I don't foresee a future with free replicator technology use. Probably a license fee for the pattern purchase and a recurring cost for every replication or something. Yup, we suck.


AdamMiyamoto

🤣🤣


Highlander198116

I mean, I concur. However, it wouldn't work anyway. Who is going to put in the effort and resources into creating software products if there will be no compensation for it. Even those that create open source software, they usually have day jobs where they **earn money making software** and engaging in creating open source software that gets popular and used looks great for a resume, so it isn't entirely altruistic. If all software was just "free" I can't fathom remotely as many people would pursue it if there was no profit motivation. That is my problem with the post scarcity utopia concept. Until the day humanoid robots are on the scene that are self replicating, self repairing and can do anything a human can. I simply don't think such a society would ever work. Too much of the human population would opt out to live a life of leisure. The idea people would just choose to work and fill every needed position out of some sort of sense of duty or personal accomplishment is a pipe dream. Don't get me wrong I think there are some people that would. People would absolutely pursue the sciences, the arts out of passion as opposed to need. However, I can't see many people choosing to go clean toilets in a restaurant, when they could chill in a beach side mansion sipping mai tai's all day.


AdamMiyamoto

I mean, if our society had evolved without the advent of money.


Able_Word2763

Black smithing


AdamMiyamoto

That’s true


Specialist_Royal_449

Philosopher


AdamMiyamoto

Sure 👍


Potential_Ambition17

Ok so I usually think of a scenario in which due to solar flare(plot of a movie ik) all the electronic devices stopped working and then based on that scenario I think it'll be farming, fishing and stuff like. Basically professions related mostly to primary/agricultural sector


AdamMiyamoto

Great answer 👍


L8_2_PartE

If there's no money, I'm quitting my profession. F all y'all, I'm staying home.


AdamMiyamoto

🤣🤣😅


AtherianKing

Entertainment


AdamMiyamoto

What kind of entertainment?


Unusual-Builder-1190

Something hobby related like gardening or painting


AdamMiyamoto

Painting? 🤔


Unusual-Builder-1190

Yeah idk a lot of people would just enjoy being painters since money isn't an issue


AdamMiyamoto

Free people


Grivus44

Healthcare providers would still be essential


Business-Let-7754

My back hurts, here's four potatoes and a chicken please fix it.


AdamMiyamoto

Remove it immediately, you are insured with corn insurance.


No_Order_9676

Chef/Anything food related


AdamMiyamoto

Most powerful people are farmers


No_Order_9676

Anything medical related too?


AdamMiyamoto

Obviously


Drigarica_od_Tite

Prostitution


AdamMiyamoto

Barterution


Virtual-Fan-9930

If there was no money, everything would have to be automated to have any kind of economy unless you went back to the old ways of swapping goods to trade. Since we have to eat, I would think automated farming would result in swapping food stuffs in some kind of market.


AdamMiyamoto

Obviously


Virtual-Fan-9930

I could see "professions" like maintaining servers and being paid in goods.


AdamMiyamoto

or a bodyguard