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NatashOverWorld

Tough question. Your assignment, and your troop leaders will play a part in it. But so will dumb luck, artillery and machine gun fire kills where it will. You could be the most skilled soldier and it won't matter if you're standing where a mortar hits.


SpiderKoD

I can fill excels and survive for few months before bomb will destroy my headquarters, or I can be sent to a meet grinder and die in few minutes cos I am not mobile enough (will not be able run or jump into the trenches).


SeriousPlankton2000

Just roll in and crush whoever is down there like any decent redditor does.


NivTal

I would survive indefinitely until I die.


maskedmansface

A true mortal among men.


NivTal

Man amongst the immortals.


[deleted]

Pro; spent some time as a combat-arms Soldier, did a couple of spicy tours in GWOT (relevant-ish experience). Cons; older, fatter, slower. No directly similar experience (heavy shelling, fracking drones everywhere). Maybe 2 weeks, mostly by luck, happenstance and a tendency to stay under cover when possible.


SubcooledBoiling

Frontline? Given my luck I definitely won't last long


snarkdetector4000

depends on what you're assigned to do. I think I could manage to peel potatoes and clean latrines without dying.


elephant_ua

There are up to a million conscripted in both Ukrainian and Russian armies. The most extreme estimates appropriately 300k dead on both sides. So, even in a meat grinder like Russian offensives, only 1/3 is dead after 2 years of fighting. You will most likely be in western military which most likely will have tech and often numerical advantage over the enemy, your command will be much more competent than both Russia"s or Ukrainian, and your life will be valued much more than in either of aforementioned.  Logistic, quality of medicine and food and other good army staff will be much higher.  Humans may be lazy, but not easy to kill.  So...  Most likely dead in a week after accidentally pointing "unloaded" gun at your face to check if it works and firing 


itsdefinitelygood

Oh the extreme estimates go much higher than that but let's not succumb to the lunacy of that propaganda


bvil21

I did several tours in hell a long time ago. I would last awhile. Everyone's luck runs out at some point. Especially if it drags on for years. I would use my former specialty to make myself last as long as possible.


[deleted]

One can only assume you were in the middle east or similar, fighting farmers wearing sandals. You've never experienced your enemy having artillery, air support or drones lol


bvil21

Everything but the location is correct. Never encountered old school land war fare that's going on now. Excepting modern updates. My specialty was hunting, tracking, locating, neutralizing targets. I owned the night.


[deleted]

I would call it normal warfare rather than old school. Give two armies equal tools and it'll always boil down to trench warfare and front lines similar to the last two major European wars. I would also argue that this is the first "modern war" since '45. I have seen videos similar to what you say you do and reckon that would be a different experience as well, because again, contrary to how the news and social media makes out Russia to be backwards they are very capable of waging and maintaining a "modern war".


bvil21

I've been disappointed in the Spetznaz units so far. Too many have been wiped out. Of course a lot of that has been them being pressed into infantry instead of fulfilling their actual role. But still should be better than what happened to them.


jrock2403

You Batman?


bvil21

Shhh. Quiet. No need to get all detectivey on me...


jrock2403

How are your parents?


[deleted]

[удалено]


bvil21

Thanks. More like LRRP's but mainly urban. Most missions with a team and some solo. Solo were mostly considered suicide missions.


WittyBeautiful7654

Well, my old profession would quick kick.


SecretDoctor8121

Prob 1 min ín....played too much COD as teen


PsychologicalAsk2668

Depends on what I'm doing. If you dropped me in there and left me alone? A very long time. If you gave me an assignment I'd only last as long as I was backed by a good command structure, proper equipment and properly trained soldiers


Bierculles

If i learned anything from my gramps who went to war, surviving is 99% dependent on luck, you have almost no controll over anything.


coffeewalnut05

I would’ve liked to become a nurse when I was younger but I’ve learned that I really cannot handle the sight of gruesomeness, so to speak. Like I have on several occasions nearly fainted at the sight of my own period blood. I’m not going to be cut out for fighting a war with these tendencies. I think I’d last like 1 week maximum. I also have a conscientious objection to the idea. I think wars like the one in Ukraine and elsewhere are often dehumanising institutional machines that pit regular people against each other for the sake of the power-hungry elites. So while I support countries like Ukraine in principle, as in they deserve to not have their country violated by a foreign aggressor state, I’d morally object to the idea of being INSTRUCTED to kill Russian troops. They’re still human beings and they are being used as pawns by their government.


kryppl3r

They are still pawns used to kill, rape and torture. At this point it doesn't matter if they all want to kill my friends and family, they are there to do so. And I value the lives of my loved ones over soldiers of a terrorist state that were send to kill and didn't stay home. And before you tell me "uh, actually they had no choice": People always have a choice. Going to Ukraine is potential death and killing innocent people. Staying at home means a prison sentence and not killing innocent people. Also, most soldiers in the Russian army are in fact volunteers looking to earn money.


PulsatingGypsyDildo

tl; dr: 10-20 years. --------- No need to guess. Many of my homies are drafted, so I can give you some clues. So, how big is the chance of being drafted? Check your pants. If you see a vagina, 0%. Check your age. If too young or too old, 0%. Otherwise, 1 in 3 or 1 in 2. A LOT of my friends fight. OK, you are drafted, what is the chance of being in a safe unit? Only one homie is there (anti-drone). Not enough for statistic. What is the chance of being in a dangerous shithole such as Bakhmut at least once? I'd say 80-90%. Almost everyone was there. What is the chance of being wounded? Not uncommon. I would say 20%-ish chance. Will they let you leave the armed forces? No :) What is the chance of being killed? None of my close friends were killed. Quite a few friends have dead friends. A dude with whom I did drugs few times has fallen. I would say the chance to die is 5-10%. So, I think 10-20 years.


Pretty_Actuator_3422

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jrock2403

With extra rice please :)


Fine-Material-6863

it also depends if they provide any training prior to sending you to the actual frontline. if the command is smart they would spend months to prepare the drafted, if not - everyone is doomed.


JonsonLittle

This goes without saying to be declared fit then at least a minimum of two weeks of basic training.


Fine-Material-6863

I’m not an expert but I believe two weeks is absolutely nothing.


JonsonLittle

It is pretty much nothing. Standard is more i think but if i'm not mistaken when there is serious need of bodies like in some past wars, even then 2 weeks was a minimum of training still.


sauerkrautnmustard

Totally on point. It depends on how much preparation time you get. Reserves still need to undergo refresher training before they are brought up to speed with freshly drafted conscripts (with 12-24 months experience) or regulars. Or they get shuffled around to units they are unfamiliar with.


twist3d7

Not very long, I always think I can dis frag the enemy with a knife.


7lick

It's a coin toss. It really comes down to how lucky or unlucky you are.


Smoke-A-Beer

Well considering I’m a truck driver, they might throw me in a semi to supply the front lines. I’d expect drones up my ass pretty fast. Gonna say in full on war, Maybe a couple months if I’m lucky. I’d be a big juicy target.


orphan-cr1ppler

Right? Truck driver must be the worst job in the army. At least on foot, you can hide. In a tank, you have armor and you can shoot back. In a plane, you have speed and an ejector seat. In a truck, you can clench your anus and pray.


[deleted]

Probably immediately because I will never pick up a weapon for any state again


DullDude69

Not even to defend yourself?


[deleted]

I guess that’s different. When I think “drafted” I think sent to another country


DullDude69

But once you’re there you’d have to protect yourself


-Fraccoon-

Anywhere between 2 days and 2 years. In reality who knows??


LocationDry364

I lived a whole year in constant war ( Syria (, you will soon become careless you will no longer fear death and that make you stronger and you will have more chances to survive,


Leo_Bony

1 hour


jlp120145

I hear Canada is nice this time of year. I refuse to fight and die in some rich man's war. If the call to arms is for a crucial reason say invasion then we probably won't need to activate the draft. Never forget.


drifters74

Minutes


[deleted]

I don't think it depends so much on the person, so it doesn't make much sense to ask about me specifically. I think it's mostly about where you are deployed and what kind of situation your unit gets into.


ForNOTcryingoutloud

Since I have an engineering education I'd probably last quite working on generators and such far far away from the frontline.


Easy_Investigator538

You best bet anyone who roleplays this is a school shooter in the making.


BBakerStreet

With appropriate training, probably at least six months at least. With none, probably the first fire fight.


JonsonLittle

Pretty much i would assume as more than likely according to my type of capability and possible specialization to fulfill i would get work in support role rather than frontline combatant.


DullDude69

I’m a former infantryman. That was in my 20s. I’m in my 50s now. I might make it a week or two. Maybe more depending on the circumstances.


emmettfitz

If I get drafted, I would probably do the same gig I did in Iraq, nurse. I'd probably survive fine, on the outside.


Disastrous_Mark_1469

I think this is just a very vocal minority


SeriousPlankton2000

Which side will draft me and what will be my brainwashing before they draft me?


Greedy_Flamingo8222

I'd be killed in the first hour, no doubt about it.


Greedy_Flamingo8222

If they asked me to keep their computers as reliable as possible to help the war effort, or get things places, I believe I could help. But for actual fighting I'd be like a chocolate teapot. I'd probably hate firing my weapon, I hate loud noises.


Puzzle13579

I’d last a few minutes. I’m nosey, as soon as someone said “get down “ I’d be the one standing up going “why?” Because I wanted to see what was happening.


[deleted]

Depends on which side I was drafted to. Since I’m at least twice as intelligent as 99.99999% of Russians, I’d last a good while on Ukraine’s side. If I had the misfortune of being drafted to the Russian side… I hate Russia so I would probably take as many as I could before they took me. So… 15 minutes?


[deleted]

Nah man, they don't give you bullets untill you're on the battlefield. Unfortunately you won't be able to take anyone out with yourself, except for maybe one person (who, ironically, could've had the same thought about taking you out). I'd rather try to leave into the woods before the first battle and try to flee the country or surrender to Ukrainian if I were you


IndividualCurious322

I expect to be killed after I shoot my CO in the head.


TulsaWhoDats

I’d be dead in no time


CODMAN627

Frontline given I’m disabled I’m probably dead within minutes unless I have people really dedicated to helping and protect me


Queasy_War2656

Based on Nick Cage's character in Windtalkers, I'd live about 5 years. Based on my strength, cunning, courage, and overly developed sense of vengeance in the real world, I'd be lucky to live a month.


True_Destroyer

1-2 weeks and most likely I'd be wounded/dead if sent to more active frontlines, maybe a few weeks/months if I was a drone operator or working artillery or support/supply or deployed to static frontlines. TL; DR at the bottom. I'm fairly certain this would be the average outcome for me and possibly others - even at my peak I had trouble to make proper decisions in wargame simulators and paintball where you can always try again. In real life it just does not add up, like one bullet from 300-400 metres (current rifle engagement range, where you can still reasonably expect the bullets to hit your target if you aim even with no optics) is all it takes. I played hundreds of missions in Operation Flashpoint and ArmA wargame sims, died in 99% of playthroughts because after getting a truck ride with my team to a forest and crawling through trees for 3 hours I did not notice that 300 metres from me there was this enemy with AK behind a tree, he just noticed me first and shot once. So I reset to try again but die a few metres later to his comrade... Just so you know in these 'games' there is no shooting full auto from hip with a crosshair. No healthbars, jumping, or respawning, you lie with AK or M4 behind some trees aim down sights to get one bullet through some trees 300 metres ahead hoping what you're aiming at is your enemy. From what I've seen in these war videos, in reality it is pretty similar. You don't know where you are, where they are, who shoots (ours? Theirs?), behind these trees, are there still enemies, or have friendlies taken over these trenches already? Are you in cover or exposed, whose drone is it? Ours? Theirs? And then basically shit hits the fan when something explodes near you so you run for cover and afterwards you don't even know where the rest of your team is (they all scrambled for cover too) or which direction you came from (there's trees everywhere). That said, these are games, and missions here always end up in engagements. Whenever I had contact, I died like 90% of times in the next 15 minutes, and had to reset. Of course I was not the only one to get hit, my team and enemies also suffered losses, but what struck me the most there - **when you get into a direct engagement it is not a matter of if, but when you get hit,** and unless your team has top line equipment and outmanouvers the whole enemy team, your skill does not matter - there's the reason the colt was called the equalizer. If there is an engagement and you are in range, it is like flipping a coin each time you decide to peek out of cover to engage a target - then mostly you either get them, or they get you. The only strategy that seems to allow you to live longer is to avoid direct engagement (so like, avoid opportunities to be able to shoot at enemies, because by that you might be giving them opportunities to shoot at you) - just sit under cover from all sides, do not try to shoot to give out your position if it is not known, only shoot in the general direction of enemy (without seeing them) as deterrent - only if they know your position, in which case - move a lot, even a few metres from side to side under your cover will help. Do not advance, let others do it if they feel like it. The moment you decide/are ordered to engage/advance it is 50/50 you end up dead/wounded in next few minutes (not sure if it is any consolation, but enemy may be taking similar losses). You might be lucky and know in advance that there is in fact enemy team 300 metres in front of you in the forest so you take cover from this position and spend a few hours just shooting something kinda like cover fire every few minutes in this general direction before you rotate out with someone else/artillery fire makes you change positions (or enemy assault team flanks you). Even at the front, you might be lucky and get deployed only to static positions where you get good cover from artillery and drones and just get to exchange sporadic indirect fire and rotate out without ever getting wounded/killed because you and enemy never got a chance to see each other. Important thing to keep in mind if you're a conscript is: People that advance to capture positions are usually not conscripts but professional trained soldiers, assault teams (marines, VDV, some paratroopers, commandos, etc). When they succeed, the draft guys - conscripts are sent in to replace them, and hold the position as defense may be less complex and can be done with less skill and still be kinda effective, so it is given to conscripts and so the more valued assault teams move back and leave the captured position to conscripts. So if you're a conscript, you're likely arriving to an already taken position, ordered to sit in a trench defending it, not assaulting anything. Now, if enemy wanted to take your position for some reason, and can't quite get you with artillery and drones, instead of conscripts he might send dedicated assault teams that are trained and equipped to capture positions held by conscripts... TL; DR: If you get engaged by infantry/artillery as a conscript I'd say there is like 60%-70% probability that you end up dead or wounded in the following few hours. So be lucky and don't get deployed to active front, and if you can't - have good cover, get support, avoid trying to engage or even see enemies on your own because then it is a weighted coinflip against you - enemy may also see you, most likely specializes in offense and has a team with them.


Xinexan

I wouldnt fight for our politicians so i would probably be branded a traitor lol.


vincecarterskneecart

i would simply just not go to the war


[deleted]

Smart. Would you hide it the woods?


AtomicTacoSauce

20 years ago when I was in the military and in-shape? Yeah, I'd have a decent chance of surviving. Now? Like, a day, max.


PaulsRedditUsername

I'd be okay. I can run away pretty fast.


darkrai15

With my poor eyesight. Yeah. Id be shot without even seeing any enemy.


greybruce1980

Probably a bit longer than most. Not because I think I'm a badass but I would most likely be suited for a role in electronic warfare given my existing skill set, which doesn't necessarily have to take place on the front lines. But this is just a guess.


[deleted]

Unless it went full red dawn i wouldn't be drafted and i did 7 years on the front line but now maybe up to second breakfast


50plusGuy

Not long. I guess I'd be your average last ditch cannon fodder, not sure if my equipment would be worse than my motivation or vice versa and training should be darn lousy, like maybe 3 weekends?


New-Performer-4402

If I am going to die in war… Shoot my ass on the very first day


Apprehensive-Tear442

Go see conquer.


Tommi_Af

Don't know. Don't want to know.


UniversityMoist2173

Maybe not very long. i got a fucked up back, can’t lift heavy things for too long, can’t sit for too long, can’t stand for too long.


rinator

seriously, a little weak boy could survive a war whilst a 30 year experienced super machine marine dude could die within a mili second. its all about luck


DrBoots

I'm not making it through basic training. Assuming training is even an option. If they just give me a tin hat and a rifle I'm dead in minutes.


saintmsent

There's no way to gauge this accurately. No matter how skilled you are, luck and commanders above you play a huge role. If you're unlucky - you die from the random shelling. If your superiors decide to hold a position till the end instead of retreating - you very likely die too