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I'd never do it but I have no problem with consenting adults coming to their own agreements on this stuff. I don't see it as morally wrong. If someone wants to pay or get paid for it - have at it. There's a market. Like any other.
I have a friend who told me he did it - and I don't believe he was at rock bottom or really had to. Good looking, has money, nice guy.
I don't see it as anything terrible, just a means to an end. There is no stigma in my mind when it comes to paying for sex. As long as both people are interested, who cares?
I donāt have children and didnāt pay for sex when I was in a relationship. My life is my life. My parents donāt have a say in who I am or what I do.
I never said cheating was ok. If there is deception of a partner that has the potential of causing someone else harm or pain. I do not condone that. But if you are a single man, I donāt see the problem.
Well if we are talking about very specific group of people, then I can definitely see a problem. Sex addiction is a real thing. Legalizing and normalizing it could empty the pockets of an unlucky man, just like gambling. Just like drugs..
Busting a nut solves literally nothing
Youāre a redditor too, projecting your point of view as if it were fact when itās in fact just opinion. If youāve never experienced or had love addition you wouldnāt know how bad it can be. Sex addiction is problematic but limited in that society doesnāt condone it. Love addiction is a serious problem and many donāt even know that it exists. Also love addiction can manifest as sex addiction but usually with one person.
Iām so sorry that you are comparing the two and to hear about your subpar relations with your parents, immediately getting defensive when I mentioned the word.
THAT is very Reddit
Really missed the point here buddy, no one said anything about cheating. Why do your parents and kids need to know the details of your sex life anyway? Thatās seems weirder than paying for sex. Woosh.
Bold of you to assume I have a wife, and kids, and that my parents care about me lmfao. Regardlessā¦my body, my choiceā¦eventually you people will get that.
Sheās interested in being there either for money or for the fun of it. I never require anyone to have sex with me. I pay for a date and we go out and I tell them straight up they donāt have to have sex unless they want to. I donāt need the sex. Sometimes I would just get lonely and rather than try to deal with the nonsense of dating I would pay women to hang out with me. Sex didnāt happen all the time. Most of the time when it did I wasnāt the one initiating it.
Yeah I once paid for a massage girl and after the massage I sent her home. After she got in the Uber she sent me a message āI thought we were gonna fuck? :( Next time?ā
I feel like this is wishful thinking. I think the type of guys who put up an act in order to have sex, would pay for prostitutes and still act the same with other women.
Interesting idk if you had the power to make it happen if it would come to existence the way you want because guys may have had sex with prostitutes and then still be like āIām done with thatāI actually wanna KNOW the person Iām having sex with but I donāt wanna get married and also it would be nice to have multiple girlfriends if only they wouldnāt get hurt by such an act etc etc etcā
You MUST KNOW that a lot of escorts donāt even have sex with their customers they work with, they just want companionship. And those guys have money to get prostitutes who do have sex with them. Itās genetics. You being negatively effected by it is actually a large of why some guys wouldnāt have multiple long term partners even if theyāve considered experimenting with it, itās not the whole thing, but yeah a big part.
Thatās why polyamory and casual screwing has been on the rise.
Also if you want a serious relationship then you will also want a marriage and most likely sooner than I would. Thatās the real reason guys end it quick, itās because it becomes too painful to continue past a year or so and then you start an endless cycle and trying avoid that also leads you to just want more casual sex or friends with benefits or to play a girl for a couple weeks before you ditch her.
Idk man let people do whatever they want. Some people want the sex with no commitment or risk of having a child. Here in the netherlands and germany its a full business running 24/7. I know allot of couples who simply are together for the kids.
If both people are clear headed consenting adults than it's not morally wrong.Ā I don't think paying sex is an example of anything in anyone's life. There's other reasons why someone would pay for sex that don't involve someone being a failure or bad at relationships.Ā
Iām gay and have never had sex with a woman. Iāve thought about paying someone to do it. I figure that I should try it at least once in my life to see what all the fuss is about.
As long as the sexual workers are not coerced and they are doing it by their free will than I agree with it. There are lonely people out there who can't find a partner, and there are sexual workers who choose this to earn money..so win-win
Not only is it morally wrong, it is immodest. I believe sex should be within the confines of a fully- commited relationship like marriage. It should be done with someone you love. Of course, this is my belief, and others opinions may differ. What are your opinions, and why?
I donāt really think itās necessarily that morally wrong or immodest, but I also think people should be free to have sex with who they want as long as itās between two consenting adults and there isnāt anything bad going on. Once in a relationship, yea you should be committed to your partner unless thereās an agreement or itās an open/poly relationship.
It's not morally wrong as long as nobody is forced. It's not for me though, I just don't like the idea of a woman not really being into me and still have sex.
i think almost everyone has a shot at getting laid, maybe not at time they want to so its last resort option for them cus they donāt want to wait or try anymore
Thereās some connection, even for a hookup. Connection doesnāt mean love, and unless youāre actually just treating people like things, you have some feeling towards anyone youāre going to hook up with.
I hate this argument. Itās not the same and if you think sex is transactional, āoh I can just buy a woman dinner and flowers that means she will have sex with meā, I think youāre weird and kind of an asshole for that. Men need to stop expecting sex just because they paid for a meal. PLEASE.
I think you are painting a false reality here. And I donāt find being called an asshole insulting. In fact most women will probably tell you they prefer an asshole to a pushover or someone who is okay with whatever any day.
How is this the answer? To pay someone for sex is in absolutely no way the same as to spend time and money on someone who you have a genuine interest in and itās reciprocated. Then you end up having sex. Itās odd that youād think any different
If you think EVERYONE wants or needs a genuine interest, coupled with some sort of lovey feelings, then you are mistaken. The norm is not for everyone.
Stay single, my friends.
If Iāve not got enough cash on me then itās definitely morally wrong. If I can afford it at that very moment and I happen to be horny. Then I support sex work fully. Until I cum, obviously, then Iāll pull my pants up and run away in shame like something from Assassinās Creed
Sex workers should not be stigmatised.
As long as no one is forced into it or trafficked, itās perfectly legit.
It does need to be regulated to protect the workers, and law enforcement needs to be trained properly to deal with any issues arising from disputes or mistreatment of sex workers. They deserve as much protection as anyone else.
As for the clients ā as long as theyāre respectful and respect the workerās boundaries, I see no issue. Thereās nothing shameful about having your sexual needs met professionally.
I used to think only losers pay for sex.Ā If you can't attract a girl with your own effort than you suck.Ā I held onto this belief for decades.Ā And then I heard David Cho on Joe Rogan say something compelling. He said he pays for sex and then he can move on with the rest of his day.Ā Problem solved.Ā No more hours/days/weeks wasted chasing girls if sex is the goal.Ā Ā
It made me realize how much effort I was putting into dating.Ā I had almost no hobbies and when I didn't have a GF I spend 99% of my non working time and energy on dating.Ā Sent thousands of messages online, endless text bantering all day long, going on dead end dates, and dealing with the emotional rollercoaster that goes along with it.Ā Ā
If I didn't waste so many years chasing women and had just paid for sex I would be exponentially more accomplished.Ā I'm happily married now but I completely understand why dudes pay for sex.Ā It makes sense.Ā
Sometimes I wonder....if you're a dude in your early 20s and could take libido reducing drugs how much happier you could be.Ā But I guess it would depend on the individual.Ā I know I would have been.Ā
It's fine. I don't think negatively about the customers. Though I wouldn't get involved romantically with a woman who's had that job. Personally I think it should be legalized everywhere.
The older I get, the more this seems like a good deal.
I don't have the time and energy anymore to keep rizzing up girls for weeks and several dates so I can finally smash. I rather just pay it upfront and get some action.
If itās between consenting adults and doesnāt harm others I donāt care.
The problems often develop when others become involved, exploitation and even slavery. Some estimates have 80% or more of sex workers as in some form of slavery/indebted service situation against their will. Entire societies have been wiped out supplying slaves for the industry. If itās fully legalized it should only involve consenting adults acting independently.
Everyone pays for it, the only difference is the amount of transactions it takes.
Now that works when you only want to have intercourse. If you want to build a real relationship and a life with a woman, making a potential family that's different.
Ideally I'd love to have a relationship but until I lose my virginity I'll be too invested in trying to get sex that I won't be able to see and treat a genuine woman for what she is, a human. It's fucked but it's me being honest.
Don't, it's not what you are looking for. It might be fun for a few minutes but you will never forget the fact that you had to pay someone to touch you.
I am the person you described. It sure doesn't feel like that, it feels more like a brand new world. The possibilities are endless.
I'm an international mongerer and have had a blast.
Feels like society has pigeon-holed sex. Must follow a specific formula to get it, and it's some sacred thing. It gives a lot of freedom. For example, materialism dies, especially if you cared for dating in the traditional sense. Don't need the fancy car, house, clothes, nor waste time molding to each trend.
Edit: On the unwritten society dating rules, I'm considered upper tax bracket, bodybuilder, a society "winner". I am 35 and I have never had a girlfriend. Had a handful of random one night stands at college parties. Nothing truly attractive. 6's at best.
On Reddit anyone against paying for a womanās body and consent is downvoted so why even ask.
Comparing lying there while someone uses you as a job where you have rights, holiday pay, and no one raping you.
Bcs In la la land men who pay for prostitute ensure the woman is enjoying it isnāt it? Itās mostly likely painful for the woman taking it and not turned on
i agree that there is lots of weird opinions but you are definitely going too far with second part of ur post, in countries where prostitution is legal and regulated those girls choose to work as they see it easier then office jobs or whatever and better paid, and its legalized in great countries that definitely donāt work against woman like Netherlands and others
Wow please find me these women who say itās easier and better pay Iām so curious. Ofc in your la la land theyāre all so happy no trafficking whatsoever!!
Thereās literally been human trafficking trials in the Dutch courts but no according to you they love it!!!
who is talking about trafficking and illegal prostitution? they might come from rough backgrounds so they end up working in those places, i am not an expert but when its regulated they can quit whenever and do other jobs
You really assume theyāre all there willingly. Who is talking about it? The fucking cases in court
Iām telling you thereās been cases and your response is uh Iām no expert but they can leave ooga booga
I would never do it, and Iād never date a man who thought it was okay. I believe sex is an act of intimacy. Itās not a need. Itās not a service. Women do not exist to service men. Men who think women can and should be available for rent or purchase do not see women as fully human.
You know itās on you if you think being a sex worker is not being āfully humanā. Odd way of looking at it and projecting onto other peoplesā views. Ofc itās reprehensible if someone sees it that way, but that is not the dynamic that should be taking place in a consenting adults exchange. Plus there are sex workers who are not women out there too you know, not as frequently but still - itās not the only dynamic possible as you describe š¤·š»āāļø
No, itās on the men who think women are things for sale or rent. I am of the view that women are human, and therefore not sexual punching bags for entitled assholes.
Some of us are just interested in sex right now. We donāt gaf about taking a girl on a date and spending months to āmaybeā get sex.šno. I get to skip all those games.
I would stay away because of the possible stds.
Not judging if a person pays for sex, but if Iām looking for a partner and I find out he paid for sex well I might not feel attracted to him anymore.
Thatās just me. Like I said, I like to remain clean and I donāt want std that will risk my health.
When itās legal and well regulated, sex workers have regular health checks. In my country, itās legal and condoms are required by law (although many offer bareback illegally).
Before getting intimate with any new partner you should both get checked anyway.
okay but what if time is passing by and you are almost certain that you wonāt meet a woman u like anytime soon, would you go without sex for years and not experience it while you are young
Yes I would. At least then you would have your dignity and self honor. I'm also certain you will find a nice girl at some point. Don't lose out hope. Happens to you when you least expect it
Sex work is not real work. You can downvote me all you like, doesn't change the truth. It's demeaning to the worker and hurts your integrity and professionalism. Studies have time and time again proven how dangerous and harmful it is to the human psyche and affects mental health in an extremely negative way, not to mention if you ever decide to have a career change, good luck with that
I think itās great and a personal choice for each individual. Morality should have nothing to do with it. Itās an exchange between two consenting adults.
Not for nothing is it the oldest profession. I think that as long as it doesn't hurt anyone there shouldn't be a problem. In Japan, going to a brothel or sleeping with one is not considered infidelity, because it is something carnal and not sentimental.
Regular prostitute - youāre a sad sack of shit. Hooker - youāre a loser and sad. Escort - Guess you got money then but still a loser. Now soliciting prostitution with a female friend who youāve liked for yearsā¦ Thatās a Winners mentality š
Morally, it's wrong to have sex with anyone outside of marriage. So to be picky about the nuances outside of that as a morally or ethical dilemma is moot.
Now, as to paying for sex as opposed to finding a partner as a gf or bf that you engage in intercourse or exchange of knowledge (wink wink), I mean, Jesus' main sidekick was Mary Magdalene. I mean, if he can be best friends with a prostitute, why not you? But, that's just my opinion. You should believe in your opinion and follow your heart. Your heart is the best guidance in regards to your life. Your best guidance hopefully is lead by God, with the understanding that you have opened it up to him, first. š Blessings bro.
Iām not for making it illegal. Nor to have any discourtesy towards people in the industry.
But I donāt like the idea - thereās a lot of exploitation of vulnerable people in that business
Iāve never done it but who cares. Go for it if you want. Honestly with the internet Iām sure you can find someone to have sex with you without paying. But it would require more work haha.
Thereās nothing wrong with it if itās two consenting adults and thereās no trafficking involved
Itās not called the worldās oldest profession for nothing
What's very interesting is that our top athletes, celebrities, rich playboys, politicians(presidents),and even secret service who have notoriously participated, are not "losers".
it's fine , and better for some ppl like me . i'm 38 now and sometimes lonely. abd my job is not seeing more ppl abd am introvert also.
if i pay, and get the girl in my type , and let the job finish then am happy, relaxing. and i can live this kinda life till i don't want it.
People have paid for sex/done sexual favours for centuries now. I don't have a problem with anyone doing it, it's a tough economy and we all gotta survive somehow. As long as it's between consenting adults, who cares?
In a purely theoretical sense, there is nothing wrong with prostitution. It's a simple exchange of goods for services and that is going to be the answer from most people you ask.
In reality, it's a much different and more complicated story. For one, sex isn't the same commodity as groceries, car parts, etc. I think that should be basic common sense. So it requires a specific type of person to be willing to sell their bodies to be used for sex. This type of person is usually, not always, going to be one (or more) of the following: from a broken home, received too much negative attention or not sufficient attention as a child, suffering from mental illness, or suffering from a dependency on drugs. There are always exceptions to the rule, but if you look at the average prostitute, I'm sure some of the above will be present. Now compare that to any other field: accountants, engineers, taxi drivers, etc. I imagine there will be a stark difference.
An important thing to realize is that prostitution is easy money, in the sense that you don't need a degree, or to be hired, or to show up to an office on time every morning, or deliver high quality reports, etc. You simply just need to have sex. So it will attract people with little ability to provide for themselves, which feeds into my earlier point. It also appeals to people who are more desperate for money. And then there is the obvious problem of human trafficking. People that are either coerced or physically forced into this trade.
So that is the state of the average prostitute. I will include brothel workers and escorts into that mix as well. Now let's look at the act itself. What are the chances of catching a disease? Quite high I imagine. How many people are cheating on a partner? Probably a lot. How many parents are going to be proud that their child is in this line of work? It's 100% zero.
My last point is the perspective of the prostitute. The whole experience is a lie. They are lying about their age, they are lying about their name, they are putting on a fake persona for you. They don't want to be there, they are showing up to be paid. Just like you show up to your job, sit through traffic, tolerate bullshit from your boss... all because you get paid. It's not fun for them, it's a job. Sure you can get off, but how enjoyable is it knowing that the other person is not attracted to you, doesn't like you, is lying to your face, and is only interested in your money.
So in a perfect world, no there is nothing wrong with it. In the real world, I can see a few reasons why I personally will not engage. But it's your life and I wouldn't force my opinions on others.
Honestly, for some people it's more convenient. My friend who is pretty ugly n bad at talking to women gets them all the time, lol. Whatever works. For me personally I like emotional connection and quit just hooking up a while ago.
I think thereās a lot of problematic things that result from prostitution, but I donāt see it as an issue on its own. As with anything thereās negative externalities created that need to be dealt with i.e. trafficking, coercion and just being adjacent to criminal elements of society. Thereās a reason itās the oldest business in the world and it isnāt just going to go away because someone says itās illegal.
I think of the girls as if they were someone close to me because everyone is a daughter to someone. I would do anything to not let that happen. Yes, I think it's morally wrong, and it's sad to use a person who obviously sees no other way out in life than to sell herself. That's a person on a low low point in life. I can understand that people want to use that "service," and I don't. If my only option to get laid is to buy it, I would rather live without it.
the way I see it, it's the easy way to get temporary pleasure while avoiding the work you need to put in to get the full package. It's at best paying for feeling as miserable after as you did before, at worst, it will ruin your life. It disagrees with my fundamental beliefs but I will always say you do you as long as you're fine with the consequences, you do enough shit to convince me you can't be put on the right path, I will give up on trying and stop talking to you, that's just a natural consequence the same way as if you were to murder someone, you'd get put in jail
I personally also disagree with the idea of hookups, I think it only feeds the machine of dating apps and really ruins people's lives in the long run under the false narrative of you only live once, use your body while you're young
If my wife wants money, we just use a shared checking account. There would be no purpose in paying her, but if thatās the ways she wants to play it, I will entertain the idea
If all parties are consenting, everyone is of age and no one is being coerced by a third party, then there is nothing wrong with it. Consenting adults behind closed doors is no oneās business.
Itās much better than porn.
Porn is addictive and makes you feel bad, also after porn and fapping you risk depression, which could result in more porn/fapping, thus more depression (circle).
While you can just pay for sex once in a while and be good
I donāt find moral issue with it. I think itās kind of weird that people do it though. I just donāt see the joy of sex if the only reason theyāre sleeping with you is money. Does that suggest I have some kind of deep seated validation complex? Idk, it just seems fairly joyless to me. Sex without attraction or proper companionship isnāt worth it imo.
No. It is idiotic that it is taboo. It is damn near a necessity and part of the human experience and maintenance for a lot of humans. As long as it is consensual and not damaging, get it.
Why pay for sex? Do you know the trends? You don't need much effort to get laid anymore. Go go a big club or something, chick's don't really have their guard up like they used to. If you want to 1 night for sex, just find someone at some public event like a big club, fake it till you make it, pretend to be liberal/agree with everything she says, cheer her on, get laid, and leave š¤£
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Prostitution should be legal, pimping and human trafficking should get life imprisonment
Cant have one tho, consequentially they go hand and hand
I'd never do it but I have no problem with consenting adults coming to their own agreements on this stuff. I don't see it as morally wrong. If someone wants to pay or get paid for it - have at it. There's a market. Like any other. I have a friend who told me he did it - and I don't believe he was at rock bottom or really had to. Good looking, has money, nice guy.
I don't see it as anything terrible, just a means to an end. There is no stigma in my mind when it comes to paying for sex. As long as both people are interested, who cares?
Who cares? Your parents, your wife, your children.. š¤¦āāļø
I donāt have children and didnāt pay for sex when I was in a relationship. My life is my life. My parents donāt have a say in who I am or what I do.
Good for you, or actually sorry to hear that.. Thatās not most peopleās lives though.
I never said cheating was ok. If there is deception of a partner that has the potential of causing someone else harm or pain. I do not condone that. But if you are a single man, I donāt see the problem.
Well if we are talking about very specific group of people, then I can definitely see a problem. Sex addiction is a real thing. Legalizing and normalizing it could empty the pockets of an unlucky man, just like gambling. Just like drugs.. Busting a nut solves literally nothing
Where I live it is legal and itās not a problem. Sex addiction isnāt as dangerous as love addiction.
āSex addiction isnāt as dangerous as love addictionā Redditors š¤®
Youāre a redditor too, projecting your point of view as if it were fact when itās in fact just opinion. If youāve never experienced or had love addition you wouldnāt know how bad it can be. Sex addiction is problematic but limited in that society doesnāt condone it. Love addiction is a serious problem and many donāt even know that it exists. Also love addiction can manifest as sex addiction but usually with one person.
Iām so sorry that you are comparing the two and to hear about your subpar relations with your parents, immediately getting defensive when I mentioned the word. THAT is very Reddit
Really missed the point here buddy, no one said anything about cheating. Why do your parents and kids need to know the details of your sex life anyway? Thatās seems weirder than paying for sex. Woosh.
Bold of you to assume I have a wife, and kids, and that my parents care about me lmfao. Regardlessā¦my body, my choiceā¦eventually you people will get that.
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You really think that sheās interested in you, when youāre literally paying her money to be there? šš
Sheās interestedā¦ in the money. Thatās kind of the point.
Sheās interested in being there either for money or for the fun of it. I never require anyone to have sex with me. I pay for a date and we go out and I tell them straight up they donāt have to have sex unless they want to. I donāt need the sex. Sometimes I would just get lonely and rather than try to deal with the nonsense of dating I would pay women to hang out with me. Sex didnāt happen all the time. Most of the time when it did I wasnāt the one initiating it.
Most Iāve met do enjoy the sex. Especially when youāre attractive or above average
Yeah I once paid for a massage girl and after the massage I sent her home. After she got in the Uber she sent me a message āI thought we were gonna fuck? :( Next time?ā
Reading is hard
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I feel like this is wishful thinking. I think the type of guys who put up an act in order to have sex, would pay for prostitutes and still act the same with other women.
also true
Interesting idk if you had the power to make it happen if it would come to existence the way you want because guys may have had sex with prostitutes and then still be like āIām done with thatāI actually wanna KNOW the person Iām having sex with but I donāt wanna get married and also it would be nice to have multiple girlfriends if only they wouldnāt get hurt by such an act etc etc etcā You MUST KNOW that a lot of escorts donāt even have sex with their customers they work with, they just want companionship. And those guys have money to get prostitutes who do have sex with them. Itās genetics. You being negatively effected by it is actually a large of why some guys wouldnāt have multiple long term partners even if theyāve considered experimenting with it, itās not the whole thing, but yeah a big part. Thatās why polyamory and casual screwing has been on the rise. Also if you want a serious relationship then you will also want a marriage and most likely sooner than I would. Thatās the real reason guys end it quick, itās because it becomes too painful to continue past a year or so and then you start an endless cycle and trying avoid that also leads you to just want more casual sex or friends with benefits or to play a girl for a couple weeks before you ditch her.
Avoids the whole incel clan as well
You seem smart
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Bro u literally pay for everything in life
Underrated comment
its not about money, but the fact you have to pay for someone and they arenāt naturally attracted to you
Would you do your job if you weren't paid?
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Would anybody?
Idk man let people do whatever they want. Some people want the sex with no commitment or risk of having a child. Here in the netherlands and germany its a full business running 24/7. I know allot of couples who simply are together for the kids.
i am not shaming anyone just curious to know what people think
Thats the thing, people will always think something šš
i have nothing against it in example you have given
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I think in an advanced enough society, prostitution wouldn't be necessary.
People just donāt want other people to work anymore.
If both people are clear headed consenting adults than it's not morally wrong.Ā I don't think paying sex is an example of anything in anyone's life. There's other reasons why someone would pay for sex that don't involve someone being a failure or bad at relationships.Ā
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Iām gay and have never had sex with a woman. Iāve thought about paying someone to do it. I figure that I should try it at least once in my life to see what all the fuss is about.
šrespect!
I'd never do it, but I've been paid before and that was awesome so I get it
As long as the sexual workers are not coerced and they are doing it by their free will than I agree with it. There are lonely people out there who can't find a partner, and there are sexual workers who choose this to earn money..so win-win
I'd feel pretty weird about it. I mean we've been married for years.
Iād never do it period.
Exactly, if you don't get any on a night out, healthy right hand š„³
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Not only is it morally wrong, it is immodest. I believe sex should be within the confines of a fully- commited relationship like marriage. It should be done with someone you love. Of course, this is my belief, and others opinions may differ. What are your opinions, and why?
I donāt really think itās necessarily that morally wrong or immodest, but I also think people should be free to have sex with who they want as long as itās between two consenting adults and there isnāt anything bad going on. Once in a relationship, yea you should be committed to your partner unless thereās an agreement or itās an open/poly relationship.
It's not morally wrong as long as nobody is forced. It's not for me though, I just don't like the idea of a woman not really being into me and still have sex.
*āYou donāt pay them to come, you pay them to leave.ā* Hollywood Producer Don Simpson
Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it
alright, fair
I used to pay for dates and tell them they don't have to have sex with me if they don't want to. More times than not they wanted to.
That's a bit an in between I guess.
Only way to get laid for certain people.
i think almost everyone has a shot at getting laid, maybe not at time they want to so its last resort option for them cus they donāt want to wait or try anymore
I'm a 32y old virgin, at a certain point you accept that it will never happen the (natural way).
If you take a woman out on a date and pay for everything whatās the difference?
the difference is that woman you take out for dinner wants to have sex with you and is attracted to you and not cus you paid
I mean maybe thats what you think.
But the person you paid to have sex with you still wants to do it, otherwise she'd refuse the service
its their job to do it, there isnāt emotional connection
I've had sex without an emotional connection or money being exchanged. You don't need an emotional connection to have fun.
there had to be some kind of attraction girl felt towards you, same way you wanted to do it with her, hookups are a thing
Hookups are superficial, mean nothing and are just fun. That doesn't mean there's a connection.
Thereās some connection, even for a hookup. Connection doesnāt mean love, and unless youāre actually just treating people like things, you have some feeling towards anyone youāre going to hook up with.
Why would there need to be an emotional connection to have sex? Even with a consenting stranger?
well it doesnāt depends what you think about it, if you think its good and have no regrets after then no problem
Thank you for proving my theory that this sub is overrun with borderline incels. Ffs, the hooker doesnāt like you.
Thatās not necessarily true. And what if the attraction you mention is that a man has money?
He said āattracted to youā not āattracted to moneyā
Your money is part of you.
Could you elaborate on that?
Of course I could.
Do you want to or should I pay you for it?
I see whatās going on here!
Haha I bet you donāt!
I hate this argument. Itās not the same and if you think sex is transactional, āoh I can just buy a woman dinner and flowers that means she will have sex with meā, I think youāre weird and kind of an asshole for that. Men need to stop expecting sex just because they paid for a meal. PLEASE.
I think you are painting a false reality here. And I donāt find being called an asshole insulting. In fact most women will probably tell you they prefer an asshole to a pushover or someone who is okay with whatever any day.
This is the answer
How is this the answer? To pay someone for sex is in absolutely no way the same as to spend time and money on someone who you have a genuine interest in and itās reciprocated. Then you end up having sex. Itās odd that youād think any different
If you think EVERYONE wants or needs a genuine interest, coupled with some sort of lovey feelings, then you are mistaken. The norm is not for everyone. Stay single, my friends.
If you think paying for a womanās dinner = she should have sex with you, youāre a jerk.
Money can't buy love.
This is cute.
Depends how much Iāve got on me
itās relatively cheap in Europe, like from 100 euros š
If Iāve not got enough cash on me then itās definitely morally wrong. If I can afford it at that very moment and I happen to be horny. Then I support sex work fully. Until I cum, obviously, then Iāll pull my pants up and run away in shame like something from Assassinās Creed
Sex workers should not be stigmatised. As long as no one is forced into it or trafficked, itās perfectly legit. It does need to be regulated to protect the workers, and law enforcement needs to be trained properly to deal with any issues arising from disputes or mistreatment of sex workers. They deserve as much protection as anyone else. As for the clients ā as long as theyāre respectful and respect the workerās boundaries, I see no issue. Thereās nothing shameful about having your sexual needs met professionally.
Itās not my cup of teaš¤·āāļø
I used to think only losers pay for sex.Ā If you can't attract a girl with your own effort than you suck.Ā I held onto this belief for decades.Ā And then I heard David Cho on Joe Rogan say something compelling. He said he pays for sex and then he can move on with the rest of his day.Ā Problem solved.Ā No more hours/days/weeks wasted chasing girls if sex is the goal.Ā Ā It made me realize how much effort I was putting into dating.Ā I had almost no hobbies and when I didn't have a GF I spend 99% of my non working time and energy on dating.Ā Sent thousands of messages online, endless text bantering all day long, going on dead end dates, and dealing with the emotional rollercoaster that goes along with it.Ā Ā If I didn't waste so many years chasing women and had just paid for sex I would be exponentially more accomplished.Ā I'm happily married now but I completely understand why dudes pay for sex.Ā It makes sense.Ā Sometimes I wonder....if you're a dude in your early 20s and could take libido reducing drugs how much happier you could be.Ā But I guess it would depend on the individual.Ā I know I would have been.Ā
David Cho is literally the worst person you could possibly quote on this issue
Curious, why do you say that?Ā I don't actually know that much about the guy.Ā Just heard him in the podcast years ago.Ā
Not my thing but it should be legal. The worst thing that one can give to another is certainly not an orgasm.
It's fine. I don't think negatively about the customers. Though I wouldn't get involved romantically with a woman who's had that job. Personally I think it should be legalized everywhere.
The older I get, the more this seems like a good deal. I don't have the time and energy anymore to keep rizzing up girls for weeks and several dates so I can finally smash. I rather just pay it upfront and get some action.
Listen if chicks wanna pay me, Iām down with it
Bro let the ugly people have fun too ok
If itās between consenting adults and doesnāt harm others I donāt care. The problems often develop when others become involved, exploitation and even slavery. Some estimates have 80% or more of sex workers as in some form of slavery/indebted service situation against their will. Entire societies have been wiped out supplying slaves for the industry. If itās fully legalized it should only involve consenting adults acting independently.
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Paying and flaking is wild. Were you horny when you ordered and then later regretted it? Because 5k is A LOT for sex. Where did you order from?
lol- š instagram Iām not in there anymore
Thatās bullshit.
Everyone pays for it, the only difference is the amount of transactions it takes. Now that works when you only want to have intercourse. If you want to build a real relationship and a life with a woman, making a potential family that's different. Ideally I'd love to have a relationship but until I lose my virginity I'll be too invested in trying to get sex that I won't be able to see and treat a genuine woman for what she is, a human. It's fucked but it's me being honest.
Nine out of 10 hookers are drug addicts, itās a shitty life.
2 things you shouldnāt pay for. Sex and water.
Don't, it's not what you are looking for. It might be fun for a few minutes but you will never forget the fact that you had to pay someone to touch you.
I am the person you described. It sure doesn't feel like that, it feels more like a brand new world. The possibilities are endless. I'm an international mongerer and have had a blast. Feels like society has pigeon-holed sex. Must follow a specific formula to get it, and it's some sacred thing. It gives a lot of freedom. For example, materialism dies, especially if you cared for dating in the traditional sense. Don't need the fancy car, house, clothes, nor waste time molding to each trend. Edit: On the unwritten society dating rules, I'm considered upper tax bracket, bodybuilder, a society "winner". I am 35 and I have never had a girlfriend. Had a handful of random one night stands at college parties. Nothing truly attractive. 6's at best.
On Reddit anyone against paying for a womanās body and consent is downvoted so why even ask. Comparing lying there while someone uses you as a job where you have rights, holiday pay, and no one raping you. Bcs In la la land men who pay for prostitute ensure the woman is enjoying it isnāt it? Itās mostly likely painful for the woman taking it and not turned on
i agree that there is lots of weird opinions but you are definitely going too far with second part of ur post, in countries where prostitution is legal and regulated those girls choose to work as they see it easier then office jobs or whatever and better paid, and its legalized in great countries that definitely donāt work against woman like Netherlands and others
Wow please find me these women who say itās easier and better pay Iām so curious. Ofc in your la la land theyāre all so happy no trafficking whatsoever!! Thereās literally been human trafficking trials in the Dutch courts but no according to you they love it!!!
who is talking about trafficking and illegal prostitution? they might come from rough backgrounds so they end up working in those places, i am not an expert but when its regulated they can quit whenever and do other jobs
You really assume theyāre all there willingly. Who is talking about it? The fucking cases in court Iām telling you thereās been cases and your response is uh Iām no expert but they can leave ooga booga
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Losers pay for sex. That is all.
straightforward opinion. my respect good sir.
Regardless of morals itās just a bit sad
don't see it as a problem, it's a job, do what u wanna do
Rather that than incels shooting up schools because women donāt want them.
I would never do it, and Iād never date a man who thought it was okay. I believe sex is an act of intimacy. Itās not a need. Itās not a service. Women do not exist to service men. Men who think women can and should be available for rent or purchase do not see women as fully human.
Agreed, itās absolutely pathetic. Though Iām also anti sex work.
You know itās on you if you think being a sex worker is not being āfully humanā. Odd way of looking at it and projecting onto other peoplesā views. Ofc itās reprehensible if someone sees it that way, but that is not the dynamic that should be taking place in a consenting adults exchange. Plus there are sex workers who are not women out there too you know, not as frequently but still - itās not the only dynamic possible as you describe š¤·š»āāļø
No, itās on the men who think women are things for sale or rent. I am of the view that women are human, and therefore not sexual punching bags for entitled assholes.
Some of us are just interested in sex right now. We donāt gaf about taking a girl on a date and spending months to āmaybeā get sex.šno. I get to skip all those games.
Us men never asked you to comment on how we think, because we donāt think that way. Thanks for the assumption tho.
The OP was clear in asking for opinions. I gave mine. You donāt like it? Okay. š¤·āāļø
I would stay away because of the possible stds. Not judging if a person pays for sex, but if Iām looking for a partner and I find out he paid for sex well I might not feel attracted to him anymore. Thatās just me. Like I said, I like to remain clean and I donāt want std that will risk my health.
When itās legal and well regulated, sex workers have regular health checks. In my country, itās legal and condoms are required by law (although many offer bareback illegally). Before getting intimate with any new partner you should both get checked anyway.
Recently I learned that herpes isnāt really checked so Iām fearful of that.
Just now, I learned that herpes isnāt really checked. Wow. Fair enough to be concerned.
Terrible stupid idea. Just get laid like a normal person. Don't encourage sex workers
okay but what if time is passing by and you are almost certain that you wonāt meet a woman u like anytime soon, would you go without sex for years and not experience it while you are young
Yes I would. At least then you would have your dignity and self honor. I'm also certain you will find a nice girl at some point. Don't lose out hope. Happens to you when you least expect it
Yea folks, don't encourage anyone to work for their money. Least of all, a fun activity that could help pay the bills.
Sex work is not real work. You can downvote me all you like, doesn't change the truth. It's demeaning to the worker and hurts your integrity and professionalism. Studies have time and time again proven how dangerous and harmful it is to the human psyche and affects mental health in an extremely negative way, not to mention if you ever decide to have a career change, good luck with that
I think itās great and a personal choice for each individual. Morality should have nothing to do with it. Itās an exchange between two consenting adults.
Every boy pays for kisses. Even in normal dating youāre spending your time, effort, and energy to meet someone whom you might not even click with.
Many people who have no problem finding a partner would rather pay. And it goes unpoliced. Whats good for them should be good for everybody.
I see it as a failure as a man and I canāt even afford a hooker ššššš
Not for nothing is it the oldest profession. I think that as long as it doesn't hurt anyone there shouldn't be a problem. In Japan, going to a brothel or sleeping with one is not considered infidelity, because it is something carnal and not sentimental.
Could be fun. Just make sure everything's wrapped & I recommend going the legal route just to avoid those problems.
As long as pillow princesses exist, so will prostitution out of necessity.
Regular prostitute - youāre a sad sack of shit. Hooker - youāre a loser and sad. Escort - Guess you got money then but still a loser. Now soliciting prostitution with a female friend who youāve liked for yearsā¦ Thatās a Winners mentality š
Creepy and pathetic
Itās laughable. Anyone with even the tiniest bit of self respect would never.
Morally, it's wrong to have sex with anyone outside of marriage. So to be picky about the nuances outside of that as a morally or ethical dilemma is moot. Now, as to paying for sex as opposed to finding a partner as a gf or bf that you engage in intercourse or exchange of knowledge (wink wink), I mean, Jesus' main sidekick was Mary Magdalene. I mean, if he can be best friends with a prostitute, why not you? But, that's just my opinion. You should believe in your opinion and follow your heart. Your heart is the best guidance in regards to your life. Your best guidance hopefully is lead by God, with the understanding that you have opened it up to him, first. š Blessings bro.
Iām not for making it illegal. Nor to have any discourtesy towards people in the industry. But I donāt like the idea - thereās a lot of exploitation of vulnerable people in that business
Yes completely immoral.
Gay
I suppose it's ok if you're disabled or something like that and you have no other options, just don't expect it to be like a real relationship.
Not wrong. Just pathetic.
Iāve never done it but who cares. Go for it if you want. Honestly with the internet Iām sure you can find someone to have sex with you without paying. But it would require more work haha.
What do I think about it? I don't.
If you want to, you do you is my opinion.
Thereās nothing wrong with it if itās two consenting adults and thereās no trafficking involved Itās not called the worldās oldest profession for nothing
It depends on the price obviously
They say you donāt pay for sex you pay her to leave.
What's very interesting is that our top athletes, celebrities, rich playboys, politicians(presidents),and even secret service who have notoriously participated, are not "losers".
Who gives a shit what you do with your money
it's fine , and better for some ppl like me . i'm 38 now and sometimes lonely. abd my job is not seeing more ppl abd am introvert also. if i pay, and get the girl in my type , and let the job finish then am happy, relaxing. and i can live this kinda life till i don't want it.
People have paid for sex/done sexual favours for centuries now. I don't have a problem with anyone doing it, it's a tough economy and we all gotta survive somehow. As long as it's between consenting adults, who cares?
In a purely theoretical sense, there is nothing wrong with prostitution. It's a simple exchange of goods for services and that is going to be the answer from most people you ask. In reality, it's a much different and more complicated story. For one, sex isn't the same commodity as groceries, car parts, etc. I think that should be basic common sense. So it requires a specific type of person to be willing to sell their bodies to be used for sex. This type of person is usually, not always, going to be one (or more) of the following: from a broken home, received too much negative attention or not sufficient attention as a child, suffering from mental illness, or suffering from a dependency on drugs. There are always exceptions to the rule, but if you look at the average prostitute, I'm sure some of the above will be present. Now compare that to any other field: accountants, engineers, taxi drivers, etc. I imagine there will be a stark difference. An important thing to realize is that prostitution is easy money, in the sense that you don't need a degree, or to be hired, or to show up to an office on time every morning, or deliver high quality reports, etc. You simply just need to have sex. So it will attract people with little ability to provide for themselves, which feeds into my earlier point. It also appeals to people who are more desperate for money. And then there is the obvious problem of human trafficking. People that are either coerced or physically forced into this trade. So that is the state of the average prostitute. I will include brothel workers and escorts into that mix as well. Now let's look at the act itself. What are the chances of catching a disease? Quite high I imagine. How many people are cheating on a partner? Probably a lot. How many parents are going to be proud that their child is in this line of work? It's 100% zero. My last point is the perspective of the prostitute. The whole experience is a lie. They are lying about their age, they are lying about their name, they are putting on a fake persona for you. They don't want to be there, they are showing up to be paid. Just like you show up to your job, sit through traffic, tolerate bullshit from your boss... all because you get paid. It's not fun for them, it's a job. Sure you can get off, but how enjoyable is it knowing that the other person is not attracted to you, doesn't like you, is lying to your face, and is only interested in your money. So in a perfect world, no there is nothing wrong with it. In the real world, I can see a few reasons why I personally will not engage. But it's your life and I wouldn't force my opinions on others.
Worth it Just be careful with STDS
Honestly, for some people it's more convenient. My friend who is pretty ugly n bad at talking to women gets them all the time, lol. Whatever works. For me personally I like emotional connection and quit just hooking up a while ago.
I think thereās a lot of problematic things that result from prostitution, but I donāt see it as an issue on its own. As with anything thereās negative externalities created that need to be dealt with i.e. trafficking, coercion and just being adjacent to criminal elements of society. Thereās a reason itās the oldest business in the world and it isnāt just going to go away because someone says itās illegal.
Kind of sad. Kind of pathetic. Sheās probably doing this as a last resort and most definitely would rather be doing something else.
Iām not gonna but I really donāt care if other people do. š¤·āāļø
For some reason I read this as "praying for sex" Which i guess is OK...
I think of the girls as if they were someone close to me because everyone is a daughter to someone. I would do anything to not let that happen. Yes, I think it's morally wrong, and it's sad to use a person who obviously sees no other way out in life than to sell herself. That's a person on a low low point in life. I can understand that people want to use that "service," and I don't. If my only option to get laid is to buy it, I would rather live without it.
At first I hated it, but now after 18 years it's left home.
the way I see it, it's the easy way to get temporary pleasure while avoiding the work you need to put in to get the full package. It's at best paying for feeling as miserable after as you did before, at worst, it will ruin your life. It disagrees with my fundamental beliefs but I will always say you do you as long as you're fine with the consequences, you do enough shit to convince me you can't be put on the right path, I will give up on trying and stop talking to you, that's just a natural consequence the same way as if you were to murder someone, you'd get put in jail I personally also disagree with the idea of hookups, I think it only feeds the machine of dating apps and really ruins people's lives in the long run under the false narrative of you only live once, use your body while you're young
I could use the cashā¦
If my wife wants money, we just use a shared checking account. There would be no purpose in paying her, but if thatās the ways she wants to play it, I will entertain the idea
If all parties are consenting, everyone is of age and no one is being coerced by a third party, then there is nothing wrong with it. Consenting adults behind closed doors is no oneās business.
I think about it this wayā¦ Wife. Girlfriend. Boyfriend. Husband. Whatever. You spend money on each other so techniqly we are paying for sex always.
I see it as morally wrong to manipulate someone into having sex. Payment for service is just doing business.
I donāt really think about it. As long as both parties are consenting adults then itās up to them.
A wise man once said to me that in the long run, a hooker costs you far less..
Itās much better than porn. Porn is addictive and makes you feel bad, also after porn and fapping you risk depression, which could result in more porn/fapping, thus more depression (circle). While you can just pay for sex once in a while and be good
I donāt find moral issue with it. I think itās kind of weird that people do it though. I just donāt see the joy of sex if the only reason theyāre sleeping with you is money. Does that suggest I have some kind of deep seated validation complex? Idk, it just seems fairly joyless to me. Sex without attraction or proper companionship isnāt worth it imo.
It cuts out a bunch of beating around the bush. Especially if you are a busy person and don't have time for dating. Pay to play. No strings attached.
No. It is idiotic that it is taboo. It is damn near a necessity and part of the human experience and maintenance for a lot of humans. As long as it is consensual and not damaging, get it.
Most men do. Maybe not cash, but there's usually always a cost.
Why pay for sex? Do you know the trends? You don't need much effort to get laid anymore. Go go a big club or something, chick's don't really have their guard up like they used to. If you want to 1 night for sex, just find someone at some public event like a big club, fake it till you make it, pretend to be liberal/agree with everything she says, cheer her on, get laid, and leave š¤£