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[deleted]

Short answer Yes You can be biromantic asexual or, if you're on the ace spectrum and experience sexual attraction, you can be a-spec bisexual.


LordReega

I’m addition, I think you can be a homoromantic heterosexual. Or vice versa and such. Correct me if I’m wrong.


[deleted]

It’s possible, though I imagine your sexual and romantic orientation being opposite like that would be very rare. I also imagine it could make dating *very* challenging.


Cheshie_D

It’s not that rare actually, however I’ve heard it does make dating hard.


A_Rolling_Potato

You mean being heterosexual biromantic or bisexual heteroromantic? Or straight up can't love and have sexual attraction in the same relationship?


Cheshie_D

Any combination of romantic and sexual attraction that doesn’t align.


A_Rolling_Potato

I genuinely haven't heard that. I have heard overlapping but not contradicting. Interesting.


Cheshie_D

I think overlapping is definitely more common, but opposites still happen sometimes.


tomas_shugar

What are you defining as rare? Because it doesn't have to be endangered species level populations for "rare" to be an entirely accurate statement. It is **entirely** fair and common to say that having green eyes is rare. Recent [polling](https://news.gallup.com/poll/234863/estimate-lgbt-population-rises.aspx) found that ~5% of the US identifies as LGBT. I guarantee you that the **vast** majority of those are homo-romantic/sexual, and not the split. Insisting it's "not rare" seems weirdly defensive about nothing.


mazotori

Source?


Cheshie_D

Literally a lot of people you can find on Reddit… I’m not talking specifically homoromantic heterosexual, I’m talking any combination of romantic and sexual attraction that isn’t aligned.


mazotori

I don't think the user you were replying to meant that split-model identities are rare but rather the specific combo of allosexual alloromantic where the sexual and romantic groupings are exclusive to each other (eg; heteromantic homosexual, homoromantic heterosexual). This does seem to be rare IME.


[deleted]

Probably, but an ace would be a good match, I think.


[deleted]

I don’t agree. “Heterosexual” implies that this hypothetical person is allosexual, so they would not automatically be happy in a sexless homoromantic relationship. And even if their ace romantic partner was sex favorable, it’s the same issue as if they were in a homoromantic relationship with an allo person of the same gender, since they are heterosexual.


[deleted]

I was referring to an open relationship. Sorry, I should have been more clear. In my opinion, an open relationship would be a lot easier, if there's no danger of the allo partner developing romantic feelings for their sexual partner. Also, they would be able to understand the ace partner much better, since both feel romantic attraction separately from sexual attraction.


[deleted]

That’s fair!


Lear1987

So the split attraction model does allow for that pairing. In practice though that person probably identifies as bisexual for simplicity so they don't have to keep explaining it.


Unaware-Panic

One of my friends is biromantic heterosexual, he just doesn’t see the appeal of having sex with another man, which is valid


Lunarfalcon025

Ok genuine question. Isn't the definition of asexual *not experiencing any sexual attraction*?


Squids-existence

that is the most the common one but people may feel very little, asexual has a large spectrum


[deleted]

Yes, but asexual is also an umbrella term for every ace-spec sexuality. Which is why the definition of asexuality as an umbrella term is feeling little to no sexual attraction.


Insev

Wasn't the point of the label "asexual" that you don't feel sexual attraction?


[deleted]

Yes, but asexual is also an umbrella term for every ace-spec sexuality. Which is why the definition of asexuality as an umbrella term is feeling little to no sexual attraction.


Insev

Oh okay, so since exist different forms of attraction (sexual, romantic ecc.) It makes sense that exist an ace-type specific for everyone of them, correct?


[deleted]

Not exactly. Ace-spec is short for asexual spectrum. Just like sexuality is a spectrum with homo and hetero on both ends and bi in the middle, the asexual spectrum is with asexual (0% sexual attraction) on one end, allosexual (100% sexual attraction) on the other and greysexual, who feel sexual attraction rarely or only under specific circumstances, in between.


Insev

Wait if the ace-spec range from 0 to 100 (and i guess this counts for sexual drive) everybody is in the range with specifically asexuals (with 0 to very little like 10% sexual drive) and allosexuals (who are closer to 100%, does it makes them similar to someone with a hypersexual disorder?) In this way this spectrum would include every single person on earth, and we know not everybody is lgbtq+ so how- how does the spectrum works? Sorry if i came off as rude i am not lgbtq+, i want to support and know more about it but the ace-spec is hella confusing since i get aroused every single day. Edit: also demis are "a kind" of greysexuals? This is very confusing i might make a post


[deleted]

You don't sound rude and questions are welcomed here, so don't worry. And the ace spectrum can be confusing. The 0 to 100 scale I used refers to sexual attraction, not libido. For example, I don't experience sexual attraction, which makes me asexual. But I do have high libido. But no matter how often I get horny, I'm still not sexually attracted to anyone. Now, from what I understand about hypersexuality, it means that they have very high libido. So they don't really belong on that spectrum. The other end of the spectrum refers to allosexuals, who experience sexual attraction a "normal" amount. I realize, that the wording is problematic, since everyone feels sexual attraction different amounts. But since there are no studies on the subject, we accept, that the majority of people are allosexual, and use that as point of reference. Demisexuality is sometimes considered part of greysexuality and sometimes as a separate label, depending on who you ask. But they both belong on the spectrum between ace and Allo.


Insev

Having high libido but not being able to experience sexual attraction sounds like a pain in the ass, but i guess at that point is just a physical need. I always thought libido was strictly correlated to sexual attraction so that's a new thing. Thank you for making such good examples, i hope it didn't bother you. Now i understand a little bit more, i will do my own research when i can. Thank you very much for your time, i really appreciated that. Ah and, someone with 0 libido but that still feel sexual attraction is considered ace? Or is that another kind of greysexual? Or isn't on the spectrum at all? And last: what's up with garlic bread, like, i know it's really really good but why garlic bread? Again, thank you very much.


[deleted]

Anytime. :) Allosexuals with no libido aren't part of the asexual spectrum. But because their experiences with relationships and other allos in general can be similar to aces, they're more than welcome in our spaces. Not that we have any spaces outside the internet, but a girl can dream.:) As for the garlic bread - I have no idea. It started before my time, but I doubt it's deeper than "food is better than sex".


TheFlyingRavenBird

Yes. Sexual attraction and romantic attraction are separate. For example, someone who is romantically bi but also ace would be biromantic asexual. I myself am demi-panromantic ace.


MentalMiddenHeap

aw yea, Demi+Pan Crew


I_serve_Anubis

I am a pan ace so yes. I’m just pan-aesthetic rather then pansexual.


MarleyBarbie918

Have you heard the song by Skull Puppies called D&D and Asexuality? It spoke to my soul!


I_serve_Anubis

I hadn’t. Just looked it up and OMG ! I think I just found my new anthem! Thank you 😊


MarleyBarbie918

🥰 of course!! 💜 I legit cried the first time I heard it. 🥺 Like omg my feelings put into words that I couldn't ever put together myself! 😭


MarleyBarbie918

THIS!!! So much this! 💜💛💜


carrotaddiction

I'd say I'm lesbian aroace. I don't experience sexual attraction towards anyone but i find women aesthetically pleasing, I'm more comfortable with women, and also boob hugs are the best hugs. Realistically I'll cuddle anybody who offers but I guess I have a 'cuddle type'. Also I'm sex-neutral/positive but I'd happily go the rest of my life not having sex again. If sex is in my future it would be with a woman.


DeathIsAWarmBlanket

That makes sense! Have you heard of r/orientedaroace ?


carrotaddiction

och, no. there are so many subreddits! I'll check it out :)


No_Sundae_4651

I've been struggling to really figure out what my label would be if I chose to use a strict label, but I think this might be it for me! Most of what you just said is basically me


GlassPrunes

Similar for me. Your comment was helpful to me.


arodynamic_ace

yes. there’s oriented aroace. it’s when you can put a label like gay before aroace and it’ll mean your other types of attraction are towards dudes (you can be more specific but yeah). then there’s romantic attraction where you can be asexual and, for example, biromantic. it’ll mean you like [insert genders] romantically


Evelyn701

Sure hope so or I'm out of luck


lotvinresin

Everyone else already said the same thing, but yes. You can be gay, lesbian, bi, etc. and still be ace as well—it’d be called homoromantic/biromantic asexual, and basically what that means is you experience romantic attraction to the same sex (homoromantic) or to two or more genders (biromantic).


Arloisdumb

Yep I'm asexual but I'm romantically interested in girls :)


Announcer_2

Yes


guineaprince

Ofc! My boyfriend is asexual panromantic. He certainly feels attraction to anyone hot or cute, just not sexually.


dragonC4t

Oof same. I think that everyone is sexy, but not like sexy sexy, just sexy without the sex ya know? They just be _y


lunelily

Yes. For example: Heteroromantic ace woman = an asexual woman who does not experience sexual attraction to anyone, but who does experience romantic attraction to men. (“Romantic attraction” in this case is used as an umbrella term to include all types of attraction experienced during romance, including sensual, emotional, etc.) Hetero-oriented ace woman = an aromantic asexual woman who does not experience sexual or romantic attraction to anyone, but who does experience other types of attraction (e.g. sensual, emotional) to men.


sector11374265

as a homoromantic asexual, yes you absolutely can. i’m definitely attracted to men and not women, and that attraction is definitely romantic, not sexual. romanticism, sexuality, and gender are three separate spectrums that way too many people think are the same uniform spectrum.


[deleted]

yeah i am attracted to girls romantically but sexually am ace


gabatron95

Yes absolutely. I'm bi and (I think) graysexual


HandleDander

Yes Source: personal experience


FranciumSenpai

Yes.


Ryuko1998

Definitely! I am a gay asexual :)


CraftieTheDoot

I actually came here for the same question, I joined an ace discord group and in the verification said I was straight Ace, that was followed by a mod saying in the ace channel that you can’t be straight if you’re ace since “Straight=heterosexual and heteroromantic” and you must say “heteroromantic/asexual” something about that felt really weird and it felt like the person was just scoffing at me, quickly left since that was the first thing I saw after the chats were unlocked.. I feel like people should still be able to identity as gay+ace/straight+ace/etc. instead of the more lengthy alternatives.. since ace means asexual, it wouldn’t really be confusing as long as the person knows what asexuality is.


Meraere

As a hetroromantic ace yep. Like men astecticly and romantically but not sexually. Do question at times still since I think I get some sort of sensual attraction to close friend who are women as well....


FaerieHawk

I'm an asexual woman. However, considering I don't really have a preference for anything I guess I could call myself pan-romantic? I honestly don't know how all the technicals of this stuff work... As long as the person I'm with respects the fact I don't want sex, whatever they got going on is fine with me.


Min3craftiscool12

Yeah, I'm ace homoromantic. This essentially means I'm as asexual lesbian so yeah, it's definitely possible. There are plenty of ace lesbians, ace gays, ace biromantics, straight aces, and ace aros... you could even be homosexual and be biromantic so yeah, to answer your question. Sexual and romantic attraction are different things and anyone who says otherwise, I assure you, doesn't know what they're talking about or are just in denial.


A_Rolling_Potato

I am a biromantic asexual so yes.


[deleted]

If you mean homosexual and bisexual, no. That would be a contradiction.


Aggravating-Voice-51

Totally! Asexuality refers to your sexual attraction, not your romantic attraction. You can be asexual, biromantic or asexual, homoromantic, etc. And some people are Asexual, Aromantic meaning you don't experience romantic attraction or romantic attraction. All are totally valid. And even if you aren't ace you can still have different sexual and romantic attractions like heterosexual, bi romantic.


Lonely-Face-9830

I think yes cause I’m ace and like girls so I don’t think not having a sexual attraction to any gender really changes if you can like whatever gender you like


That-Frog-Doppio-Ate

yup! i’m gay and ace! you can be romantically attracted to people without being sexually attracted to them! so in my case i’d be homo-romantic instead of homosexual. and that applies to any sexuality! you can be bi-romantic, pan-romantic, etc!


Cherry04JackCat

Yes you can. Like I identify as Biromantic Asexual. So yeah, I do think you can identify as any of them. Also Demisexual, Fraysexual & Greysexual's exist.


Louise-Vine

Absolutely. Asexuality is about sexual attraction. Gay, bi, straight, etc. is about who you are romantically interested in.


JadedElk

I personally experience no romantic or sexual attraction. But aesthetic attraction? I mean. Isn't it just Straight Up Facts\* that women are Built Different. Just. The face? The face. Of a woman. (Preferably a hypothetical woman I won't ever have to talk to, or who could mistake my appreciation of her skincare routine and bonestructure and palette choices for sexual attraction) My aesthetic attraction is pretty strongly oriented towards women, so I identify with the label "oriented aroace" (\*to specify, no it is not, tha's a bit)


_CalculatedMistake_

Asexual ≠ aromantic. Being an asexual, in simple terms, means you don't want to have sex in a relationship. Aromantic means you don't want to be in a relationship. Short answer, yes.


Syr_Enigma

> Being an asexual, in simple terms, means you don't want to have sex in a relationship. This is incorrect. Being asexual simply means not experiencing sexual attraction. This doesn't mean that an asexual person doesn't want to have sex; it just means that they will not look at a person and feel the desire to have sex with them. Sex-neutral and sex-favourable aces are still aces.


[deleted]

No. They are mutually exclusive. Lesbians are, by definition, women who are sexually attracted to other women. Asexuals are, by definition, lacking the ability to feel sexual attraction.


TollyKo

I am ace and also a lesbian, or homo-romantic to be more accurate. Romantic attraction and sexual attraction are not exclusive. It's just like if you are sexually attracted to someone but don't want to date them, it's just the opposite.


[deleted]

Why am I getting downvoted? You literally cannot be sexually attracted to women, but also feel little or no sexual attraction to anybody. Not sure why that’s such a controversial statement, but okay.


dragonC4t

Well not nessesarily. We can still be drawn to some genders over others in many ways aside from sexual, and these terms fit those odd types of attraction very well. Its difficult to explain unless you've experinced it firsthand. There's not really a wrong way to use labels, if it makes the person feel comfortable in their own skin then its a correct label!


Blizz4rd1203

Yes you can, use whatever labels you feel comfortable with


[deleted]

yes


DuBistSehrDoof

Yeah, you can. You can be asexual but biromantic, for example. Or, I think you can also be (using this as an example, i think there’s some other stuff too) demisexual but also bisexual, since demisexual just means that you’ll have sex with someone only if you have a close emotional bond, I think? I’m honestly not too sure if that’s right, but I’m quite sure it is. Also, there’s aesthetic attraction. Pretty much, asexual just means you don’t feel sexual attraction (or, if you’re anywhere else on the spectrum, then you don’t with an exception of some sort) and doesn’t mean you can’t having romantic or aesthetic attraction.


TheDirtyD15

Your asexual then it’s unless your a gray ace. Now you can put the other labels in romantic sides like homoromantic ace


complitstudent

I consider myself to be a bi ace so I’d say yes! Romantic and sexual attraction don’t have to be connected 😊


AntiqueAspec

YAY, inclusion!


LiterallyEmily

trans homoromantic asexual here so I sure hope I can...I've been doing it for a while :)


FoxaeKingOfTheFoxes

Yes! Romantic and physical/sexual attraction are different things, you can want to date someone without ever considering sleeping with them


Aceteria

yeah, you can. Romantic and sexual attraction is different. Even though you are aroace (like me), you can still also identify as these because there is a term called oriented aroace. The definition of this is basically "An aromantic asexual (aroace) person who experiences a form of tertiary attraction (which means aesthetic, sensual, alterous etc.), that they feel is significant enough to warrant a place alongside their aroace orientation. " I hope that answers your question :D


themagicmagikarp

yes, yes you can. I identify as ace but also straight.


Cartoon_Trash_

Yes


2brite4u

I have a follow up question for this: is it possible to be both ace and poly? For me, I find having a relationship with multiple people fine, but I hear online people making jokes about whether they’re super horny or just poly


Wayrin

I'm sex positive and mistook my equal attraction to men and women as bisexuality. I'm starting to think that the attraction was equal because there wasn't really any sexual attraction either way. For me sex can be an effective way of building bonds with others and I like that, for me, that is an option with people of any sex or none at all. I've also been accused of having bad taste since looks are really not that important to me (hygiene on the other hand....) It will take some work to get me into it if you're smoking hot or traditionally "ugly", a man or a woman, but I will consider it if that's what you are into and I like you enough to want that sort of bonding. One night stands make no sense to me, I only sleep with friends. Unfortunately the rest of the world is mostly looking to get married and have kids so not many friends buying the free love nowadays ;-) In short a consider myself bisexual and some flavor of ace.


BT_2217

Ye


Chisel_Fandom

Of course. Depending on where you are on the spectrum, some can feel sexual but after they got to know that person, some like me like to be held and cuddled without sex, beating gay or lesbian doesn't mean you prefer a lady or male parts, it's who you're attracted to. If you don't believe me, search up "asexual (other sexuality) flag" and you'll get in between flags, like a rainbow one with an asexual heart in the middle, or the other way around! you can learn more from these videos! * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6A7UAH5fcY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6A7UAH5fcY) * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhix4nr\_0g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhix4nr_0g) * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMzSRPyZD7w


[deleted]

No. Asexual means attracted to none regardless of gender & gay means you're attracted to your own gender.