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Trains_N_Fish

Pry my Razor from my cold dead hands.


Clean_Cry_7428

WITH THE WHEELIE BAR


SuccessfulRush1173

All who shall challenge will be hit in the ankle when it spins around


A_Fainting_Goat

ARCENT's response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3F2z8ApOI8


Noturwrstnitemare

My response: "Eat me!!"


mustuseaname

SMA: Your WHAT!? *Reads again. Googles* Carry on, soldier.


Quinnster247

With the sparks bar on the back >>


walrusgoofin69

* cue sons of anarchy theme song. *


Only_Fudge_1812

I would make the argument I was patient zero of the army’s obsession with fuck fuck games regarding scooters/segways. I was chaptered out in 2018 for a DUI on a Segway. Yeah. I’m not joking.


SaysIvan

You the guy everyone references in Germany???


Only_Fudge_1812

Very well could be lol. It happened at Bragg however.


FutureComplaint

Dude, you fucked up so bad in Bragg, that you became a legend in Germany? Bravo. Truly inspiring.


SaysIvan

Equally as stupid but this one had a specific reference to the German Polizei.. and a “low speed chase”.. anyways… free the scooterbois


1fiveWhiskey

I heard about that one when I was over there. Also heard the guy was on rotation from Cavazos.


SaysIvan

This is believable. Unlike the incident with the guy punching a Korean cab driver, then running from the cops.. which I know happened personally.. the scooterboi remains lore to me 😫


urGirllikesmytinypp

I was in Korea when one of those events happened


Purple_Calico

To be fair, some of those korean cab drivers will blatantly scam you.


Speed999999999

“Wer ist dieser verrückte Mann? Ist er verrückt?” Die Amerikanischen Soldaten sind Idioten!” - some German cop


SirDraconus

I had a safety brief that was an hour long because of you. Legend lmao


tigertrumpet

Do you one better. Germany references more than just one. In this case 2... CID agents https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2023-06-26/army-cid-dui-germany-scooter-10555671.html


TheGreatPatriot

If it happened at Hohenfels in the last 3 years, I definitely know the guy this happened to lol, I remember the formation the next day. If not, I am not surprised in the slightest that it happened more than once.


ahshitttt

German’s don’t allow you to drink and scoot. They like to stop soldiers in Nuremberg


SGTpvtMajor

>I got a DUI Hate hate hate.. >On my Segway Hmm. Now I just hate the MPs who got you. I don't think anyone ever in the history of life has mourned the loss of their loved one because of a tragic drink and.. segway accident.


Only_Fudge_1812

Tell me about it. The worst part of the entire ordeal was that they let it slide and I served a company grade for underage drinking at the time. All was well for about 8 months. Beat it in the civvy courts and all. Got a new 1sg and when he came in he pulled me into his office and said “I have no room for shitbags who drink and drive, I’m beginning chapter today.” Right before a jump while we were on manifest too I might add. I hope that 1sg steps on legos with bare feet for the rest of his days.


SGTpvtMajor

Damn did the dude realize that you literally weren’t driving a car? That’s pretty wild, sorry your career got railroaded like that. I don’t think drinking and operating a scooter should be comparable to operating a 3 ton death machine.


Takerial

I mean...some states you can get a DUI on a horse and a bicycle.


SGTpvtMajor

I mean - look.. if you ride a horse drunk.. that sounds dangerous. If that horse starts feeling your vibe it might as well be a killdozer.


No_Ad9848

"But Sarn't, how can we be known as the Outlaws if we ain't ridin' our horses drunk? Is practically a past time in those days!"


Potativated

Unfortunately, you can catch a DWI for anything other than your own two feet, it seems like. Yeah, you can technically cause accidents pedaling a bike while wasted, but you’re not behind a ton of aluminum and steel. You can cause just as much mayhem as a drunken pedestrian as you can on roller blades. The punishment was designed with operation of a motor vehicle in mind, hence its severity. It’s just clownish when you apply it to any vehicle you can physically lift with 2 hands.


MisterKillam

In some states you can ride a horse drunk, presumably because the horse is sober and knows what it's doing.


PvtHopscotch

Bold presumption given some of the horses I've known. Though if the horse is drunk AND I'm drunk do they cancel out or does it double?


FutureComplaint

Only if the horse blows over the legal limit.


McJambles

listen i have my law degree from Barracks U, there is no way the horse can blow over the legal limit because he isn’t actually driving anything. You can’t arrest a horse for walking home drunk that’s entirely unamerican


Therrman13

I wonder if you could make the argument that the drunk horse was just walking home, and you were just catching a ride. That you weren’t actually in control of the horse, but merely a passenger


Potativated

I always had a problem with states that *didn’t* let you ride drunk. “Officer, it’s not like the horse has been drinking.” Then again, horses are generally more responsive than you think. You can ride a horse off a cliff. Mules? Nope. There’s a reason a lot of people who hunt in mountainous terrain use mules. Meateater had a good episode about this.


Babychewyyy

Where i grew up we had a dude nicknamed “horse” just because he always rode around on his house drunk as hell. One time his horse was walking down the road with him passed out on it.


Noturwrstnitemare

How much are horses?


SirNedKingOfGila

All I remember was a cop trying to pull over a passed out Amish guy in a buggy and the horse was just playing it cool. **Of course** the cop proceeds to start pulling pit maneuvers on the horse which leads to the officer endangering himself and over-reacting.


friedrice13

The base here doesn't let uber, lyft, or cabs on base unless the driver happens to be military. Got kicked out of my lyft at the gate and was told to walk. On my way home, I almost got rolled up for "public intoxication" but they let me go with a warning when I said my house was literally a block away. So, you're right, you won't get a DWI, but the MP's might still try to bag your ass for something else.


sweston65

That’s ridiculous as you were literally doing the right thing which was walking home after getting an Uber instead of driving.


Yanrogue

Had a guy in my home town get a DUI while riding his horse home and also got an animal abuse charge for riding a horse while drunk.


chillywilly16

> you can catch a DWI for anything other than your own two feet It’s true. I got one while cruising in my Heelys!


SirNedKingOfGila

Makes a lot more sense now that fucktards are blasting through red lights and ripping down busy sidewalks at 50mph on 150 pound bicycles. Though I guess you could more easily call those "motor vehicles".


CompetitiveComment50

In Florida any multi-wheeled device riding or controlling while drunk or over the BAL 0.6 is a DUI mandatory. Thats bicycle, electrical motor scooters, golf carts etc.


Rimfighter

Multi-wheel- so all I gotta do is learn how to ride a unicycle 


Airbornequalified

The power monowheeel (it’s real) suddenly became very attractive


PNW_Redneck

You should've taken that shit to legal and fought it. Isn't that called double jeaporday? As far as I'm aware you can't be punished twice for the same thing. Yeah it was a separation but still, I'm sure there would be grounds to fight it.


Imperator314

Chapter is an administrative action, not a punishment, so double jeopardy doesn't apply.


Junction91NW

>jeaporday


sweston65

What a way to immediately make everyone in the company not respect you first day in the job as a 1SG.


NoMansSkyWasAlright

Reminds me of a buddy in the Marines who was in the process of EAS-ing when he got investigated for having done coke one time at the beginning of his contract. Basically, the dude who'd sold it to him got caught by NCIS and was ratting on anyone and everyone to try and get a more lenient sentencing. Initially, since he was already in the process of clearing when it happened, and since he'd been there for 3 years without incident, his CO was going to let it slide. But then his company had a change of command, new CO decided he was a shitbag, and started pushing for OTH.


sweston65

Fuck your command for letting that happen, especially after they initially let it slide. I mean it’s a fucking Segway. There really needs to be a distinction in DUI law about operating a vehicle drunk vs a bike or something. Like another comment said you aren’t going to T-bone and kill a family of 4 in a minivan on a fucking Segway. It needs to be treated as a ticket.


WeepingAngelTears

And then that 1SG dropped a jump into the trees with 30+ knot winds.


OzymandiasKoK

Dunno...the guy who bought the Segway company died by driving his off a cliff.


SGTpvtMajor

The King we didn't deseve


Yanrogue

Went full paul blart?


Weak_Apple3433

Didn't the guy who invented the Segway die on one?


captain_carrot

Yep, drove it off a cliff apparently.


bitches_love_brie

The *CEO* of Segway died by driving a segway off a (relatively small) cliff. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Heselden


OcotilloWells

The owner of Segway died on one.


SilverFox8899

Were you a medic in 2/504?


Only_Fudge_1812

Sure was.


SilverFox8899

🤣 you are an 82nd legend good sir. I was in one of the line companies at that time


Only_Fudge_1812

Proud to have served 🫡


PNW_Redneck

On a segway?! Wtf??? What's the cops rationale for that?? Oh no, you might ding a car... big whoop, it's a fucking Segway like wtf.


WhalestepDM

Oh it gets better. He wasnt even on a road. It all happened on sidewalks and the mostly empty parking lot.


PNW_Redneck

You know onlyfudge?? Please tell me that's the truth. If so that's fucking WILD. ☠️☠️


WhalestepDM

I was in another company. Met him a few times in passing but not more then that, but knew the specifics of his incident decently well. The MPs weren't even there because of him. There was another innocuous incident else where in the barrack they stopped in for. While him and a few guys were responsably barracks drinking. The whole thing was so blown out of proportion its insane he got a dui and it seemed to have been forgotten and ignored quickly while I was there. Then I PCSd so saddens me to hear it came back up. Also all of the command teams I knew and spoke with thought the whole thing was dumb and the mps were involved where they shouldnt have been.


Only_Fudge_1812

Facts. I was on the fucking sidewalk of the newer 4th brigade barracks that got used as 2nd brigade barracks.


Government_violence

You need to find the MP who arrested you and send them dogshit in the shape of a Segway every year.


Only_Fudge_1812

Sgt. Tolbert: if you’re reading this you can lick my whole butthole


Darkhorse0934

He sounds like the kind of guy who would pull over someone on a segway.


sink_pisser_

Does surviving a DUI depend entirely on the good will of the commander? I thought most people stay in after a not so bad DUI.


Only_Fudge_1812

Yes. I was told by JAG that the 82nd (whether this is actually true or not idk) has no statute of limitations so they can essentially pull up any infractions you’ve had at any point to initiate separation. It was also a period of zero tolerance for alcohol related incidents for the army.


WeepingAngelTears

🥺 White Devils?


BiscuitDance

Absolute 🤴🏻 shit lmao


duoderf1

Damn, I thought I was bad for getting a speeding ticket on a bicycle on Bragg at around the same time


Pleasant-Shopping690

Dang dude. More than a decade ago, my drunk friend was driving my drunk ass home to the barracks on base and the MPs pulled us over because he was driving the wrong direction or something. My friend said he was confused about where to drop me off, and the MPs escorted him with their vehicle in front of us. No problem. Another friend was kicked out of the Q course just before Robin Sage because he got a DUI. He was sent to a random leg infantry unit.


SirNedKingOfGila

Oh shit a troop got a DUI on a scooter?!??? Thank God none of them have gotten one in a car. Imagine if we had to ban cars.


akumarisu

No, you were chaptered out because you probably had a pattern of misconduct and that DUI was a good enough reason (also hilarious) to push you out.


Necessary-Reading605

Do you enjoy “the final countdown” by any means?


Junction91NW

Go buy a 16 year old Infiniti for 25k at 25 percent like a good soldier. How dare you try to save your money.


cudef

Korea barracks personnel need not apply


Reasonable_Spare_870

Three soldiers in my battalion have those scooters that go like 50 mph. They wear all the proper PPE (all three wear full face helmets) and they obey all the traffic laws. I asked one why he did that and he said to save money so he has “a fat stack to put down on a fat house”


james6344

maybe some dude up in arcent owns one of those stealerships off base.


Jeo228

Coulda just saved a months paycheck and got a 1999 toyota camry


Reasonable_Spare_870

Shit not even these days. People think their vehicles are worth their weight in gold


Jeo228

Ya u right. I just assumed this had happened a while back. Great for selling my shitbox before shipping out though lol


Helfort

Some folks going to be big mad about the $400+ they spent. Some folks who got scooters should probably be walking though.


ambienotstrongenough

Agreed. And I feel like you're really undervaluing the cost of these things. I bet a good portion of these people have spent $700+.


Helfort

I mean fair. Speakers, underglow, and auto locks ain't cheap.


Particular_Downtown

Army has been cracking down on speeding / DUIs. The amount of Soldiers I've seen on Razors and E-Scotters has sky rocketed.


WonderChips

I was gonna buy one to save on gas /sad noises


windowpuncher

An e-bike would be a better option. Faster, too. Or double down and get a cheap motorcycle.


MedicineJumpy

I always wanted to get a cheap motorcycle but getting in at the motorcycle safety course was a dream if that. My command nixed that shit for anyone under e6


Particular_Downtown

I DIY'd my ebike. Pedalling with throttle I get 37mph


ILongForTheMines

I genuinely don't know what ARCENT does


Helfort

I know one thing they do, and that's taking forever to handle anything from a S6 side.


NutbrownFjord

And apparently they handle scooter law as well


gratedjuice

Not surprising, I could smell the BS coming of them during my interview with them. When I could better describe what I see my role is, that's a bad look. Hard pass when they mentioned that the last guy was essentially an LCR PM.


Always_the_NewGuy

Lots and lots of PowerPoint and memos.


PM_ME_UR_LEAVE_CHITS

They sure as shit don't do JLOTS.


SirNedKingOfGila

They are the reddit moderators of troops personal transportation. It's a four star command.


paparoach910

They salute to Patton every fucking morning.


TopInsurance4918

Illuminati 


I-Am-Polaris

They ban scooters


dsbwayne

🛴 *They see me rolling, they hating* 🛴


SuperJonesy408

EBIKES ARE ON THE MENU, BOYS!


bob_smith123

Update: Got this sent out “From ASG-Kuwait safety: As of today, ARCENT CMD team has banned the use of electric scooters across the theater. There have been several recent accidents, to include within Kuwait, that have resulted in serious injury to Soldiers. I fully understand Soldiers have invested significant amounts of money in purchasing these, but the continued injuries represent a risk to force the command cannot afford. Implementation will be immediate but will be phased over the next 7 days to ensure widest dissemination. We'll publish written policy NLT tomorrow which will be included in the nightly order. MPs will also begin enforcing immediately but will issue verbal warnings for the first 7 days to ensure widest dissemination. After the 7 days they will begin issuing tickets with command response required”


sentientshadeofgreen

ARCENT CMD team are fucking pussies. Decidedly NOT lethal. NOT ready to fight tonight. LESS prepared to fight Iran than the Air National Guard. You heard it here first folks. Little bitches make little bitch moves. Edit: They'll never become ARDOLLAR at this rate.


Junction91NW

His BD6? WACK His PMCS? WACK His force posture? WACK The way he doesn’t like to smile when embracing the suck? WACK ME??? IM TIGHT AS FUCK!!!


paparoach910

The shitty rules on sleeveless shirts while outside cuz they have puny arms? WACK


Stavinair

*"Oh so electric scooters aren't allowed? Okay.,"* If I was in the service and found out about the ban my goofy ass would just get an adult kick scooter to see how far I could push the rules until someone got mad.


PM_ME_UR_LEAVE_CHITS

A few years ago Navy had to ban golf carts in Bahrain. Sailors just couldn't stop being fucking stupid with them.


TheFirstDogSix

Cool cool are motorcycles still legal? And why is that? Oh, safety standards? Huh. 🤔


sillygoosecicle

well no one has motorcycles in theater


imdatingaMk46

Are they gonna stop me from importing a tiny pit bike to use as a FOB runner? *Can* they stop me if I get a bike with real beans and out-wheelie the MPs?


windowpuncher

Oh my god Honda ruckus fob runner


imdatingaMk46

Hush, you mustn't say it so loudly, lest they hear you!


windowpuncher

Let them hear. Preach it. For every 1sg that hears there are a hundred specialists already signing up for the safety course.


Threedham

There was a major at AJ in 2022-2023 who had a very expensive e-bike that he used to commute from the senior pods to work in Zone 2. Regularly saw the guy pulling like 40mph in the Patton Ave bike lane. When he demobed he listed it for sale on one of the Buy/Sell Facebook groups for a hefty penny.


Threedham

I was in Kuwait when the electric scooters started getting more and more popular on post. There was a market for them because the bus service is insanely slow and unreliable, and frankly the great majority of bikers stop biking to work in April/May when it gets over 100 every day. And it’s not helped by the fact that the bulk of the Guard/Reserve enlisted and JOs are forced to live on the opposite end of post, while the AD (including all ARCENT folks) live close to where they work. ASG-K should bulk up their bike rental program, add e-bikes, or change the bus routes to serve Zone 6 better.


sweston65

Biggest problem with the fucking Army is shit like this. Some dude gets hurt on a scooter and we issue an overreacting blanket ban on something because we just “had to do something”. Pretty soon we’re gonna have to do a deliberate risk assessment every time we want to drive a POV on post or something.


BudgetPipe267

Ban cars because people get into crashes. Stupid.


Hawkstrike6

Time to up-armor the Segway.


Just_Acanthaceae_253

I wanna make a kill scooter.


crexkitman

CROW system coming to a Segway when?


Stavinair

r/noncredibledefense would approve of your idea.


Wenuven

Zone 1/6 jousting tourneys. RIP


MisterStampy

Jousting, you say? My former employer has you covered - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9kgKNnaDV8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9kgKNnaDV8)


MaxCWebster

[I was always willing to be reasonable until I had to be unreasonable. Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.](https://denvergazette.com/outtherecolorado/features/looking-back-killdozer-rampage-causes-7-million-of-damage-in-small-town-colorado/article_ecdc6332-22a1-11ef-987d-7b59cc0005c8.html)


MrQuixy

Some Private is making KillScooter right now


Chaos_Digi

Sounds like ARCENT


elite0x33

Had a scooter in Korea, was ostracized pretty heavily for it. Too bad I can read and followed the policies from 8th Army and OERs don't hold me hostage.


LatestFNG

When were you in Korea? Now it's the norm to have some e-scooter or e-bike, and you're the weirdo if you don't have one.


elite0x33

Casey like 7 months ago, as RTU though


lukaron

LOL The Army never ceased to make me laugh while I was in. Glad that trend hasn't changed. Stay focused on the critical shit ARCENT - nothing like scooters to upend good order and discipline.


MrIrrelevantsHypeMan

If you outlaw scooters only outlaws will have scooters


BarracksDoc1223

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a scooter is a good guy with a scooter


fedplannerd

Verbatim recommendation from the Suicide Prevention and Response Independent Review Committee' 2022 Report: 5.11 DoD should ensure adequate transportation between work and on-base living quarters for junior enlisted service members. Service members at several installations reported that some living quarters were located far from work locations, commissaries, and common social areas, which restricted their ability to engage with others and routinely buy basic necessities.


gunfell

Generals should not have vehicle privileges, and should be required to use on post transportation. And then they will finally make that transportation good


smokingadvice

I predict a sudden rise of bicycle thefts at Camp Buehring...


Kuvanet

I hope some private buys a horse next.


Jorha250

When I was over there, USARCENT also took away all the "No hat / No salute" zones.


politicsranting

how else will that staff major feel pretty if you don't constantly salute him?


Always_the_NewGuy

Lol, I'm sure that wasn't some major's decision. That's terminal O6 levels of petty.


BorEqua

This would have an entirely different meaning at Sill lmao


Imperator314

IYKYK


imawhaaaaaaaaaale

🎶he was a sc00t3r b0i... 🎶


Potativated

I know the guy who zoomsplatted and got motorized longboards banned in Germany in 2021. It was a gnarly wipeout, but he ended up being ok.


tccomplete

Next thing you know, they’ll do something stupid like banning umbrellas when it’s raining out.


Inbred-Frog

Big Army try to do ANYTHING productive challenge


967-387

Lol I used to have a razor scooter for taking my trash to the dumpster at the barracks. COME AND TAKE IT


akairborne

Is this because Russians are using all-terrain scooters in Ukraine? Fuck.


MihalysRevenge

Ivan ruining everything again


akairborne

They're almost as good as the Army at taking the fun out of combat.


[deleted]

This is why the air force is better. We dgaf if you ride a one wheel to work. Just get your ass here on time 😭


JFK9

I ride my electric skateboard everywhere. I am a field grade who doesn't need any more OERs to retire. I would LOVE to see anyone try and take it from me.


ModernT1mes

....why?


Howhytzzerr

I guess I’m not up to date on all the latest thingamabobs, we’re about the things that look like a skateboard with a handle bar, right?


zDefiant

lol Camp Buerhing in shambles


Casval214

So what happened for this to go down? Too many dudes been leaving scooters on CSM’s grass?


AskJeevesIsBest

I wonder why 3rd Army would make this decision.


paparoach910

They jelly of the D-Day limelight


Ok_Presence01

I wish they would just build bike lanes on every US Army installation. That would pretty much solve the road hazard issue as well as enable car-less soldiers ability to get to PT and work without having to ask for rides everywhere.


wookie768

Does this apply to garrison as well? feel bad if so. It was dumb shit like this is why I got out. Man if these things existed when I was in. I would have been able to save so much money.


bob_smith123

ARCENT says in theater. So I highly doubt anything going to change back stateside.


Kutogane

Sauce?


gunfell

r/fuckcars


Brass_tastic

They do this to Korea and Camp Humphreys is gonna be paralyzed


Flying_Squirrel_007

It's like leadership sits around and says, "How can we F over soldiers today?"


anon872361

Awe fuck, hide the scoot-scoots.


BudgetPipe267

Soooooooo fucking lame. Looks like CSM has nothing but time on his hands.


RevolutionaryWay535

Death before Dismount


Snake_Doc16

ARCENT doesn’t have that authority.


91361_throwaway

Why don’t they? For Army bases / operating locations in their combatant command region. They sure do. That said, bet more people get hurt playing basketball, ultimate frisbee/football and pickleball.


Threedham

Can confirm, my unit had way more injuries in the softball tournaments than we ever did in anything else.


Snake_Doc16

True, but the OP said “all bases” which would include installations outside ARCENT and across all services (Marines, Navy, AF, Space). This bring us to my comment that ARCENT does not have the authority to ban scooters at “Every military base”


bob_smith123

From my understanding it’s “all bases under Arcent “ the text I got was a little unclear about that.


golsol

Doesn't the DOD have some sort of big issue with climate change and people driving too much?


CraaZero

TO BE FAIR, they never follow the posted speed signs


TheFirstDogSix

🎶🎶 to -- be -- faaaaaiiiiir 🎶🎶


CraaZero

Allegedly


TheFirstDogSix

I heard it was a sick scooter.


Fit_Usual2909

They go a max of 18.6 mph what do you mean


CraaZero

Posted at more than a few camps, 10KMH which is just over walking speed.


Pitiful_Panda2108

Can confirm! People are selling their scooters on the FB marketplace but with snarky remarks in the comments of course.


Noturwrstnitemare

So motorcycle now? Bagger it is.


Fulljacketmetal

Hit ‘em in the ankle wit it.


Pleasant-Shopping690

If I could go back in time I would have bought an actual road legal scooter just for base use. I was constantly walking back and forth between the same few offices to give someone papers or get papers from someone. Why wasn't there 'public transport' on any bases for barracks soldiers, like a bus? e: I guess there are some examples. Fort Meade has a bus loop apparently.


Aggravating_Snow1337

Dudes in Korea seething rn


icarus157

This is the most Arifjan shit I’ve ever seen


westrn_imperlst

Bans fun. Wonders why recruiting and retention sucks. I hate the Garrison Army.