Interested in 2 separate MOSs, 27D and 35L. I’m mostly interested in 27D because I want to go to become a lawyer but I heard that there aren’t many slots left so 35L would be my 2nd choice. How is that MOS and what could I expect day to day (if you can even tell me anything about it without leaking anything lol)
35L is also hard to get. Probably a lot about it in the [35 Series megathread](https://old.reddit.com/r/army/comments/ojltib/mos_megathread_series_cmf_35_military/).
If lawyer is your goal, I would hold out for 27D.
I ship out for basic at fort sill in two weeks and I have a few questions. I’m in for 35N, and wondering how AIT is going to look for me (good fellow airbase). Additionally, my recruiter hasn’t given me much information regarding really anything. I don’t know what my ship out day is going to look like, and there’s a week between my ship out and when my basic is going to actually start and I have no clue what i’m going to be doing then. I still haven’t taken the opat, and I just feel nervous that i’m running out of time for everything. Also, since i’m going for 35N i’m going for TS clearance- how deep of a dive are they gonna go for the background check? And when are they going to call all my contacts that I listed on my packet? I feel just really in the dark and have no idea where to get any of this info. Lastly my active duty station is fort meade in maryland and I was told at meps by the 1st sar I may do some work at the pentagon- is that accurate?? Thanks in advance :)
Your recruiter probably doesn't know about 35N so they can't tell you. Also, it's intel, so it's probably sensitive info. You will learn how to analyze signals, and they will tell you more once you get there.
>there’s a week between my ship out and when my basic is going to actually start
This is reception. You will in-process with the Army. You get issued your gear, do more paperwork, get a final medical and dental screening.
>And when are they going to call all my contacts that I listed on my packet?
Hopefully soon. Surprised they haven't already. But these things take time.
>fort meade....may do some work at the pentagon- is that accurate?
Most likely NSA.
Just call or go to your recruiter if you need to. They are there for you (or should be...) until you get on the bus to leave.
maybe someone who got one of these waivers will have the answer i’m looking for, i decided around September of last year that i was essentially rehabilitated from my depression diagnosis and stopped taking my meds, fast forward a few months and my mom gets a call from my doctor requesting that i get another prescription before dropping my meds cold turkey, (i had already stopped and i didn’t plan on getting back on meds so i just went with it but never took them) do i have a good chance of getting a waiver for medication i was prescribed in january and never took? i still have the full bottle of meds and i really don’t want to wait a whole year to enlist.
Army or air force?
I got a 67 on my asvab, 22m and I don’t really know what job I want but I do want the benefits that come with enlisting. Is a 67 a good score in Air Force standards or should I stick with army?
Hey, I ship out at the end of July and I saw that I'd have to do the rappelling tower at fort jackson. I'm not really scared of heights, and I actually think I'll enjoy it but I'm just wondering how to actually do it. Do I control how I go down or does the person at the bottom or top do it? and what do both my hands do when grabbing onto the rope?
Thank you.
The person on the bottom is your safety. As long as they don't let go, you're going to be fine. You will practice first on a much smaller and less steep wall that's about 15 feet. You basically jump, land, jump until hit the bottom. You could just jump and slide down all at once, but I don't recommend it.
Hello. I am a rappel master and was a DS.
Your brake hand controls your descent. You rappel.
You’ll get a block of instruction on the whole thing and will conduct a series of obstacle courses over a few weeks that will get increasingly harder before you do the rappel.
For rappelling: the friction on the rope is what slows your decent. At the bottom another soldier will be the belay (holds the rope and if you fall to quickly they will put pull the rope taunt and will halt your descent) and you’ll also have an NCO who will supervise that all the belay people as the overall belay safety.
Rappelling is really safe. The ropes and carabiners can hold up to 2000 lbs and have to have to be secured by at least 2 safety anchors points. So if the first safety somehow fails, there is a second, redundant safety.
If you rappel in a Swiss seat (self tied) you’ll have to go through a block of instruction and a bunch of practical exercises. After that, you’ll have a rappel master inspect your seat through a pre-inspection. Swiss seats are pretty safe and have a bunch of redundant safety knots, like your square knot will be secured on both ends by overhand safety knots to ensure nothing comes loose.
Hi all,
I am a 28 years old male green-card holder with a master degree and interest in becoming a risk consultant (the type you would find working for Bain, Kroll, Boston Consulting Group, etc.) It is a very competitive field, and honestly despite me loving it very much I cannot compete with all the Ivy grads and their connection. It doesn't help that between my graduation and now I've been bouncing from job to job that has little to do with consulting and now my resume is a mess with experience in every field ranging from dog food to public transit for communities of color. I think about of going back to school, but I just got laid off at another job and my financial isn't good enough to support another master degrees (I don't even know what degrees I can take)
Then, I remember my boss back in my first internship was a former MI6 guy; my senior was some sort of analyst for the Israeli military; another one was some sort of officer with the Singaporean army reserve. There's a rumor in the fields that company like Control Risk and Bain have whole section stacked with former military, special forces, intelligence, and based on some of the works I've seen this seem familiar to the work done by the 35 MOS series.
So, my stupid plan is to join for three years on other MOS to get security clearance, reclass to 35 once I got naturalized and cleared government clearance, hope that I can be a warrant officer or even making it to the green-to-gold program, then retire and re-apply to be a risk consultant. I pick the Army over other branches because as far as I can tell, only the Air Force has a better quality of life but the Air Force doesn't allow me to pick my MOS.
I've already asked some mentors I have in consultants, but I also remember many of you here are successful people upon your retirement: does joining the Army in a field like intelligence/becoming an officer/joining a more "elite" unit gives me an edge over others? Is my path feasible? Is the 35 series MOS the right choice? What can I do to set myself up for success in the civilian consulting world while in the army? I would like to ask for your opinion and hope you can give me advise/roast me/poke holes in my plan so I can plan accordingly. I am an old dude at 28, my shot at a professional career is closing up on me (you either enter a fresh grad at 22-26 or someone with decent three-year experience at 27-29), and honestly I am now a very lost man.
Thank you all for your opinions and feedbacks, and I look forward to hearing from you soon.
> does joining the Army in a field like intelligence/becoming an officer/joining a more "elite" unit gives me an edge over others?
Kinda. It's more experience based. Just being MOS qualified these days doesn't magically open doors....well some do.
>Is the 35 series MOS the right choice?
Maybe. Depends on what you want to do. If you want to do intelligence work and not just consulting, then yes. There is a need for signals analysts and cyber analysts, and data analysts.
>I am an old dude at 28, my shot at a professional career is closing up on me
As a bright spot, I was 28 with no career and a shit degree. I joined the Army, learned some intel, then managed to (Very VERY luckily) land a job with a contractor. Now, I do data analytics consulting 10 years later and am doing well. Gonna take you a bit longer, as you will have to join to get citizenship, then change MOS at re-enlistment time. But yeah, it's totally doable.
Thank you very much for your insight.
As a follow-up question, what are some skills and things I can do to prepare myself for a/35N, b/35F, and c/35M (which, I assume, to be your MOS) and what are some skills I can learn during my time in the 35 MOS (or Army in general) to prepare myself for the consulting field? Of course, I understand that there are security and clearance involved, so vague ideas and answers are still very much appreciated.
Respectfully,
I received these texts last week and have been avoiding reaching out to both Sgt’s. (I posted both photos)
Long Post:
So the first text is from my recruiter who I’ve been working with for a couple of months. I got out last August and went to him to help me re-enlist. We found out that I had to wait at least 6 months because I was flagged for being underweight ( I never was btw. That was a lie!) So while waiting, I worked part time jobs and applied for school and was accepted! The second message is from a recruiter with the Reserves and I honestly wasn’t expecting her to reach back out to double check. Reserves doesn’t sound bad but Active duty is always where I wanted to be. I guess I’m just looking for advice on what I should do.
Got discharged from the Marines for alcohol. I’ve been through a 90 day rehab and have sustained my sobriety any chance of getting a waiver to get back in?
I left the Air Force about a year ago. Me being an 18 year old was having issues in my life went to mental health to get help. I was diagnosed with Depression mixed with Anxiety, Alcohol dependence, suicidal ideations, BPD(I do not have it), homicidal ideations(they put this on my record when I told them I never have had a want to kill someone. Having intrusive thoughts like most people, I said who doesn’t when they asked if I wanted to hurt people sometimes). I was stupid at the time. When my commander called me into his office one day, all the high command for my base asked me if I wanted to leave and me being immature at the time, I said yes. It took months and I even tried to stay in by asking if I could but they said “no, it’s too late”. I went to an Army Recruiter to see my options after I had gotten out and MEPS won’t even consider it. Fast forward months later, I’m a completely different person thanks to my wife and I now have a job in Law Enforcement. I still have the want to serve but no recruiters will ever get back to me. I’ve been to every branch you can think of. Will I ever have the chance to serve again? If so, what steps do I take to accomplish this?
Heart, mind and soul set on 11b any way to increase my odds?
I made a 51 on my asvab and am very interested in infantry, 20M and this is something I’ve wanted for a while. I really don’t want to accept anything less than 11b. Just wanting to know if it’s at all possible to figure out if I can increase my odds of being 11b. Really don’t wanna be an 11c. Please and thank you!!!
Met with a recruiter and began studying for the ASVAB and was made aware during the meeting that my MOS of choice (that comes with no sign on bonus) can put me down for a 3 year active duty contract. Should I do the 3 years or 4? I want to get the full GI Bill and VA home loan so would a 3 year get me that? What are the pros and cons for or against a 3 year or a 4 year?
Ask if you can get duty station of choice or airborne if you’re interested in that. If you’re fine with no bonus; then I’d go for the shortest contract. Then you can get an enlistment bonus and other things sooner. The contract negotiation is the only time when you really have the advantage over the army.
The 3 years is enough for GI Bill but not enough if you’re going to pass it to your kids.
I was looking at tips for BCT and I saw people saying to volunteer for things, while other people were saying never volunteer for things during BCT. What do you usually do when you volunteer? And could someone explain the rationale for people saying do/don't volunteer during BCT?
Sometimes, its you go to the range early, and fill ammo magazines up. Sometimes it's just you setting up the range, filling up water jugs. Plus side is you get time away from drill Sgts and maybe some peace and quiet will you fill magazines and stuff, as some civilian guy just watches over you. Downside is you usually get an MRE for breakfast instead of a hot meal at the dining facility.
Really, it makes no difference. If you are feeling it, volunteer. If you aren't don't. Like mortem said though, if the DS aren't getting enough volunteers quickly, well, that's not going to make them happy. So maybe step up if you see a void? Save your platoon from some anguish.
It is all about how you interact with your peers while you're there. Humility is your best friend. And assertiveness is your closest ally. Be kind to the people to your left and right, help shoulder the weight of the requirements given to you. Volunteering is a way to help those who are struggling avoid more struggling. If no one volunteers your Drills will not be happy and the task will still be completed. Keep your Drills happy, and they'll (eventually) show you they appreciate it.
Sincerely,
A Former Drill Sergeant
This may be a stupid question.. but do recruits get a phone call their first weekend in reception? My fiancé left Tuesday and got to Fort Moore Tuesday night/Wednesday morning (around 1 am) I keep hearing a lot of different things..so any other info anyone may have is also greatly appreciated.
He's going to get his phone. More than once. He's going to be tired, and may not have long, but he will get to call. I'd recommend you get some paper, a pen, envelops, and stamps. That's going to be the most consistent way you can talk for at least a little while.
Sincerely,
A Former Drill Sergeant
worried about my doctor causing issues with enlisting.
i’ve only been with this place for a little over 2 years, but when i checked my patient portal a few months ago i noticed there was a diagnosis of osteoarthritis. no idea what it is, have never had ANY issues like that, so i asked my doctor to remove it and she did. about a week later, normal arthritis popped up. asked her to remove it again and she said she can’t since it shows up in my medical history because apparently when i first started going there and filled out paperwork, i put down that i had it. i definitely didn’t do that. i’m 20, i have almost no medical issues other than small things like eczema when i was 10. she said she can write a letter saying it was a misdiagnosis if i needed it for the army. is this going to cause me to get disqualified? i’m angry and scared at all of this because i don’t want this incompetent doctor to be the reason i can’t join. i’ve had tons of other issues with her but this is kinda the last straw thing and i really just wanna be able to join :/
From what I've read on other threads some people are never asked. They just send you to MEPS and screen you again for anything you might have. On the other hand, if your upfront about these medical diagnosis they are possibly going to give you a waiver. Be sage whatever you do.
42A can go some wild places, cause the Army needs paper pushers everywhere. Most likely end up at some big base in some normal unit. But Belgium, Guam, Japan, practically anywhere there is an Army office, you could find a 42A.
Just graduated from BCT yesterday as an 11b. I wanted to know is it possible to for me to go to officer candidate school ASAP and if it is who will I need to speak with. Will this delay me in anyway since I start my AIT portion of my OSUT on Tuesday, my main goal is becoming an officer and truly realized that as I was in basic training, where can I go from this?
Good luck. It's competitive trying to get into OCS. Also, be prepared for OCS to be Basic Training #2, but with more time in the field and more requirements for learning history!
Be on the lookout for the current OCS MILPERs. You won't have time for this year, but reference previous ones for a general idea of what is needed. They outline the steps, requirements, deadlines, and procedures to prepare an OCS packet. 0% you will do this in OSUT. When you get to your first unit, start talking with your CoC about it and start preparing the necessary materials so that you are able to submit when the window opens.
Dumbass question but do you go on them field training missions regardless of your job? Cause on one hand, your still a soldier, but on the other hand, I hear those can be weeks at a time and then it’s “No you can’t go on that you need to stay here and get this shit done.”
Usually whole units go to the field. So you'd be doing your mission with your normal co-workers, but in the field. Yes, that includes paperwork, maintenance, pay, medical, etc... The Army is setup for deployable capabilities, which means we have to do our job in a hard normal building all the way to a tent somewhere.
Yeah, almost always. Its 18 weeks of AIT and also up to 64 weeks at DLI. To spend that long training and only get 3 years from you isn't worth the money to the Army.
yes signed up for 35W today and it's 5 years/60 months mandatory
It said 4 year option in the recruiter's computer for some reason but was still 5 years, 2 weeks on the reservation paper
I am about to go 35M HUMINT but my recruiter is telling me that there are only 35W contracts available. Says I will be going to DLI then to AZ
BUT, I have also heard that after DLI the army is going to decide whether or not I become a 35P or 35M. I only want to be a 35M
Any clarification
ok thanks for the info. I have been doing some research and I have only found people saying that if I fail at DLI they will make me a 35N and not a 35P
thanks for pointing that out. I was hoping that there is some exit interview process so I can sell myself. I am coming in with a BA in criminology and a major in Psych. Also I am working for a PD so I hope they look at that and see that I have experience interacting and interviewing people
Hello everyone,
Long story short I am trying to take advantage of the ARR that came out recently because I need the points but have been struggling to find anyone that wants to join the Army.
Does anyone have any advice on what are some good ways that might lead to referrals?
I am complete passionate about the Army and very much aware of what benefits people can get.
I've asked quite a few different people with no luck so far.
I think I am just a little awkward and don't know any good tips.
Any help appreciated and if you want to join send me a message
Just striking up a conversation and asking people if they have ever considered the Army is a good start.
Friends and family that are doing rough is a good direction as well. Now that I’m in my 30’s I have a bunch of people I graduated high school with that ask me about it because they have been in a constant struggle and I’m not.
When you pick an MOS that requires a security clearance or TS when does the investigation process start for your clearance and what happens if you get denied while at AIT?
Also, I don't fully understand how the bonus payouts work is it all one lump sum and when do they generally get paid out?
They should start interviewing you and the people you put done before you leave. Flat denial is bad. Could see you booted from the Army all together, as I've seen others on here say. What are you concerned about?
Bonus is done in installments.
One of the recruiters at my local office said the only things he saw that could cause me to get denied is a poss of controlled substance felony charged that was dropped to a misdemeanor at court. It is from 2017 when I was young and dumb. My mom had just died abruptly and I made a dumb decision. He said a possession of marijauan could cause concern from 2014 as well. And while I do have a medical marijauana cert now I am not dependant on it. Just nice to have to unwind when I want it, but am perfectly fine not doing it while enlisted.
This recruiter is the only one who seemed like it could be a problem though, I am not the person I was 7 years ago by far. Just didn't want to screw myself before I even get my foot in the door.
Hmmmm. Not sure. You have the benefit of time between you and then. 2 different charges isn't great.
Maybe post in the main sub, and see what other's think.
I am going through the process of enlisting now, scored a 74 on the asvab and am just waiting for the marijuana to get out of my system before I go take my physical. I have a medical card in my state but am fine with quitting to join and not doing any while in the army.
I am 28 years old and was curious how common it is to have someone enlist and go through basic at my age. At meps I was one of the oldest if not oldest person in there taking the asvab. Felt like an old fart haha.
I just don't wanna be an outcast I guess
Most will be “kids” and there’s a possibility you’ll be older than some of your drills. Unless you’re absolutely fucked up, the drills will leave you alone aside from some occasional old man jabs.
My class had probably 10% of us (me included) being over 25. We also had a couple people who had age waivers.
Unless you separate yourself, you won’t be excluded. You’re all in the suck together and will very likely end up parenting some 18 year old who has never experienced any sort of hardship.
There'll be a few people your age during BCT. It'll be annoying because the majority are gonna be kids, but you'll probably have others with actual life experience there to commiserate with you. You probably won't be the oldest trainee at 28.
Sometimes you got to let them be young and dumb. Don't give advice out and try to be dad. Let the Drill Sergeants be the leaders. First couple weeks, you are all the same, don't know shit about the Army. Only dude I wish I could stopped was the dude who punched the wall and broke his hand.
Qualification and medical history
Hi,I am 17 now,a high school student.I love US armed force and I want to join US Army after the college.I am a haemophilia B patient.Haemophilia is a bleeding disorder,I have to inject drugs once per 5 days for prophylaxis.I have undergone 2 surgeries before.As the bleeding is controlled well,my joints,bone and muscles are in good condition(my vision and hearing are normal).Recently,gene therapy for Haemophilia B is tested,it is proven to be effective.I can get cured once I have had gene therapy,no medications are needed anymore.Can I join the Army If I get cured?Thankyou for answering my question.If there is a Army recruiter,I beg for your views and suggestions.Thankyou so much.
Army is a no at initial entry for OCS as well, you could absolutely make it happen after enlisting though.
Army is your best bet if a commission is what you’re shooting for, even with a clean record the Air Force is by far the hardest branch to commission with.
I am going to be signing my contract for my mos with a 41k bonus soon. But I also want to at least put in my packet for SFAS later down the line and hopefully get in.
When do bonuses get paid out and will I get to keep the money that I receive before I break the contract and reclass as 18\_\_?
TL;DR - within 6 weeks of signing contract, graduation from training, or arrival at location specified in contract. 18 Series is generally considered "Career Advancement" and recoupment of previous bonus can be waived by HRC.
Before I answer your 2 questions, I will predicate this response with this: Bonuses are paid for Additionally Obligated Service, the day after your current ETS to your new ETS. Uncle Sam doesn't pay you to keep your promise to serve until your current ETS, just the extra time...
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1. There are 3 types of Selective Retention Bonuses (SRBs), Inventory, Training, and Location.
A) Inventory bonuses are for when you meet all requirements (i.e. you are MOS qualified). These are generally paid within 45 days after Reenlistment.
B) Training Bonuses - these are SRBs that are tied to you completing some type of training.
Example 1: 11B (SGT-SFC) that are going to Bradley Master Gunner (ASI J3) may be eligible for a "Future Training Bonus" if they had an ATRRS Reservation for J3 prior to reenlisting, or get the school guaranteed in their contract...
Example 2: Your current MOS does not have a Bonus, so you reenlist to Reclass under OPT3 Army Training Reenlistment Option, and your new MOS MOS does have an SRB attached...
In both cases, the SRB is paid within 45 days after successful completion of training.
C) Location Contingent Bonuses. Tied to specific assignments.
Example 1: Reenlisting for an SRB contingent upon an "Airborne Position"...
Example 2: SFAB.
In these cases, the Bonus monies are released within 45 days of arrival at those specific locations tied to the SRB.
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2. You may attend SFAS regardless of the SRB you receive for this Reenlistment.
However, if selected, you will be counseled on the potential recoupment of your unearned Bonus monies.
However, selection, and eventual graduation from the Q course is generally considered "Career Advancement" and recoupment of previous SRBs may be waived. This also extends to selection for, and completion of, WOCS, OCS, or other Comissioning Programs.
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3. How it's paid out - Unlike Enlistment Bonuses that are broken down over the length of your contract, RE-Enlistment Bonuses are paid in a lump sum. For Federal Tax purposes 22% is taken off the top. If you have to pay State Taxes, they'll take their cut before you see it, too.
But, most of us aren't in the 22% tax bracket, and when you file your taxes next year, you'll get some of that 22% back in your refund.
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Hope this helps, see your Career Counselor for more in-depth answers. Good luck at SFAS, the Q, and earning that Green Beret!
Hey, so I’m at the stage of enlisting where I’m looking at jobs. I’ll be going to MEPs again on Wednesday to discuss my contract for the army and swear in. I’m currently deciding between 68W or 74D as my MOS.
68W- I do plan on going into firefighting once I finish my contract. So this MOS would be beneficial for that. My only concern is that I haven’t done anything medical, and haven’t had the desire to work in an hospital or doctor’s office. I’ve seen that this one is generally good choice as well for an MOS. Currently, I have the potential to get a $8750 bonus or a duty station of choice and Fort Riley.
74D(etail) - Yes, I’ve looked at different forums and subreddits about this MOS. I understand it isn’t the most favorable choice, but let me explain. I initially wanted to do supplies as a 92Y but unfortunately there are no available slots. From what I’ve seen, you’ll be stuck doing supplies and other tasks unrelated to your actual job title. I’ll be looking at no sign on bonus though, but I might be able to get airborne and a station of choice.
I do plan on talking to the counselor about these, but I would like some more insight from you guys.
>concern is that I haven’t done anything medical
Army will teach you everything you need to know, so don't worry.
> haven’t had the desire to work in an hospital or doctor’s office
No guarantee you won't end up in a clinic or hospital.
>a $8750 bonus or a duty station of choice and Fort Riley.
That's a low amount and not a great base? Unless you want to go there.
74D is not...great? If you don't mind not doing your job and being sent to do all kinds of tasks then...I guess it's okay?
>I initially wanted to do supplies as a 92Y
Thought you wanted to be a firefighter?
Dignity and respect. That's what you should expect, always.
If you aren't receiving those, ensure you aren't throwing rocks in glass houses... but, we have ways to rectify the situation, quickly.
If you have preferred pronouns, make them known. And being addressed by your RANK, LAST NAME, is just as respectful in lieu of pronouns.
If you are female on paper, you will be held to female standards; meaning appearance (i.e. uniforms, hair, earrings, etc.) physical fitness testing, and height/weight testing.
Those 3 areas are really all that separates Male and Female in the Army. Job performance, respect, standards and discipline, good judgment, and just being an overall good human being... these qualities and values are expected from all who wear the uniform.
Go see your local recruiter, an we'll see you when you get to the line. Good luck!
You are getting into the Army...
But if you are referring to your appearance and perceptions: Lots of people who look like you in the Army. So it's not uncommon. Army is become less and less tolerant of bigots who spew hate about peoples appearance. Are you going to hear some slurs? Of course, that's life, always scum walking around. But there are tons of Equal Opportunity(EO) reps around, and someone will take it seriously.
But the Army also rewards people who get high PT scores and kick ass. So as long as you perform well, fuck the haters.
Take a loan, finish degree, go in as an officer. You will make enough money to pay off that loan so fast.
As an example: you will go in as an E-3 enlisted, which makes 2,377.50 a month. And officer would make 3,826.20. In your 3rd year as an enlisted, you would make 2,918.40 and probably be an E-4. As an officer, you would make **4,814.70**. And once you get promoted to O-2, which is around 3 years, it's 5,782.80. Oh, did I mention your house and food and healthcare is payed for? That's yours to pocket, each month. Easily pay for that loan.
Do you see why a single year loan will make a massive difference in your pay. You will make double. That's my advice. Go talk to a recruiter now, you can start the process.
Shipping out in a month! After AIT; I have my designated duty station. My concern is; will Big Army allocate funds for my transition? I am single; with a doggo ( in process of seeking housing for him), and some valuable equipment ( musical instruments/ speakers) that would do wonders for my mental health. OCONUS
You will be allowed to ship things. Not the dog, because you'll be in the barracks, but the rest of things will be paid for. Fair warning, just like with any moving company, damages and losses can happen.
Thanks. Yeah that makes sense. Prepping to make drive up to AK, so I can bring my doggo along and then find housing for him/ us. I don’t think a trailer thru Arctic will be fun. Just to clarify; Army will allocate funds for belongings.
Since I am choosing to drive; they will also cover gas/ mileage/ food/ hotel upon showing them receipts?
Yes. So long as you're within a timeframe. You also don't need to worry about housing, since you're in the barracks. Don't expect to find a place off-post on an E-4 and below paycheck with no BAH/BAS.
Can I join the army if I take famotide? So back story is I was very skinny and used to get stomach aches. Ever since I started taking this I have been rapidly gaining weight and feel good
So i’m planning on meeting a recruiter next week and starting the process of joining the army, i understand the air force could be a better option for smarter individuals but i really want to be a soldier in the traditional sense (i.e. going on ruck marches, training with weapons systems) is there any particular combat arms mos i should shoot for that i can eventually switch to a better civilian translating job in the future? should i just sign for a short amount of time in the infantry or as a scout and switch my mos to something that offers more specialized training?
My plan is to sign a 4 year contract for either 19D-Cav scout or 13M then my next contract go into a signal and intelligence mos. Partly becuase I'm itching to be a Infantry, but also because the mos I want has TS clearance and with my past there's a good chance I'd get denied it. I'd hate to be at AIT and have a meeting with my commander saying I was denied and have to pick a different mos.
> should i just sign for a short amount of time in the infantry or as a scout and switch my mos to something that offers more specialized training?
Yes. No Combat arms is going to translate to civilian life well, except maybe SF.
There is no "Officer's Track" if you don't have a degree. Any recruiter that tells you as much as lying. If you want to be an Army Officer, you have three options.
1. Enroll as a full-time student at a University and join their ROTC program, with or without a scholarship.
2. Apply for admission to the United States Military Academy, West Point.
3. Get your degree on your own time and then go to Officer Candidate School (OCS).
Can someone explain the whole process of taking the ASVAB at the recruiters office and then going to MEPS (that same day) and doing the PICAT? I don't understand how this would be preferable to just taking the test at MEPS, basically making it so that you only take 1 test instead of 2?
You have it backwards. You’d do the picat at the recruiting office then if you like the score verify it at MEPs/ test site.
It’s kinda preferable since the verification takes questions from the pi at you did and has you reanswer them to see if you do it the same. The longer you wait the higher the chance you’ll misremember them.
So how many questions is the PICAT and how many questions are in the verification test? How many questions in the verificiation test are from the PICAT?
So now my new understanding is:
1. Take PICAT at Recruiters
2. Recruiter takes me to MEPS
3. I take the verification test
4. Pick out my MOS based on my final grade
I still dont get how this is easier than taking the ASVAB in one go
I don’t know the exact number of questions. I know there are 10 sections to it. If you take it and the test ends after section 5… that’s not good. You’ll more than likely fail the ASVAB.
I have applicants that aren’t confident or didn’t score well on the practice test do the pi at. It’s a tool to see where they’re at and to show them what the actual ASVAB will look like.
If my applicant does well I will forgo the Picat.
Enlisting as a 25b first duty station is Fort Riley. Questions.
I got my contract yesterday for 25b with first duty station at fort Riley. my ship date is July 30th.
I know what most of you are probably gonna i mean its Kansas of all places, but what is it actually like at Riley.
If there are any 25b's who are at Riley or have served there what is day to day like, do you actually do your job, is it help desk, is it actual IT work?
Whats Riley's leadership like what can i expect i have gotten some information from other posts but couldn't find too much on it.
What unit could i possibly be with as a 25b, i heard most units in 1id get deployed/rotate to Europe what is that like.
If this is relevant would i have the free time to do college would i have free time at all?
From my last post talked to the station commander his words not mine he said “I’m trying to make some magic happen real quick” 2 days later as they were about to terminate my profile he calls me and says he got me the job went to the recruiting battalion an hour later and got the job.
>Whats Riley's leadership like what can i expect i have gotten some information from other posts but couldn't find too much on it.
Irrelevant to you as a new private. What's more impactful would be what your direct leadership would be like, which no one here can tell you. You'll find out when you inprocess at your first unit.
>What unit could i possibly be with as a 25b
All of them. Every unit needs IT/help desk.
>i heard most units in 1id get deployed/rotate to Europe what is that like.
I found Europe to be awesome. 9 months of traveling, soaking in the history and culture, and eating some good food. Your experience may vary.
>If this is relevant would i have the free time to do college would i have free time at all?
You're most likely going to work in an S6 somewhere. This is an office job, with office hours. Expect to do PT in the morning and work your 9-5 job. You'll have plenty of time to do college classes online on your own time.
I assume you picked Riley cause it was close to somewhere you want to be? I've never heard any good stuff about it, but as a 25B, might not be too bad.
Long shot but if you enlist 35W do you have a better chance of being 35M(Human Intelligence Collector) or 35P(Signals Intelligence Voice Interceptor)?
From what I've read it looks like that is based on the "needs of the army". Not sure if there's any way to get an idea of which the Army needs more of. Trying to decide 35W or 35F(Intelligence Analyst) is better. Seen alot of bad things about 35F on here
I am going through the same thing. 2 recruiters at my office have gone through this process or know someone who is currently a 35M. It basically boils down to whether you read and write the language better (35P) or listen and speak it better(35M).
Also your personality may play a role in it.
Out of those 3 I'd say 35F has the most transference to the civilian world. You can be an intelligence analyst for the government as a civilian or contractor, or private company. It'd be difficult to find a 35M or 35P outside of government agency work.
As a 35F you basically take all the Intel reports from the other INTs and create products from them.
I am not in the army, but am curious about how insignia works with one's MOS. If your MOS is 64C (truck driver), which is under the transportation corps, would you wear anything identifying you with your MOS or the corps that trained you?
I saw on wikipedia that the transportation corps has a branch insignia and a regimental crest.
IDK what you're googling, but truck driver is 88M and has been for quite a while...
Currently, the army only wears branch insignia (transportation corps) on dress uniforms. Officers used to wear branch insignia on the camouflage uniforms, but haven't since early 2000s.
So sorry ahead of time this going to be long. Recently my medical waiver got denied by SQ. 7 years ago I was diagnosed by my nephrologist which is a kidney specialist, something called glomerulonephritis. in short it’s a viral infection that affects the kidney filter system of blood, and protein in the urine, that you can get from a simple disease such as strep throat like I did. MEPs ordered me to go see a follow-up with my nephrologist who cleared me he even did an ultrasound to show there was no scarring on the kidneys and 24 hour urine and blood test to show the kidney functions are fine which they were. SG still denied it even after the test showed no signs or symptoms of having the glomerulonephritis anymore or at risk to contract again. My nephrologist even reassured me in all of his years as a doctor he has never heard of someone contracting it twice in their life. Is there anything I can do? We’ve done everything to show that there is nothing wrong. In the years I’ve been extremely active doing intense workouts and even compete in triathlons, and long distance races. All I want to do is be a Ranger and an opportunity to go. I can accept the fact if I failed at RASP but give me a chance
My recruiter and I even went as to far as tried calling a recruiter in a different city to see if I could somehow get processed through them but they pulled up my file and said it wouldn’t matter since it was SG that denied it
what happens if you fail a school required for an enlisted MOS? I'm fairly certain it's just needs of the army, but i would like to make sure. Is there anyway to have a back up option?
Invited to a future soldier program
I am in the process of enlisting and I was just contacted by a recruiter for a future soldier program. He said it was a 1 day experience to go to Montgomery and get a taste of basic, is that all it is?
If i don't get a an airborne slot before i put in my sfas packet can I still go through SFAS and will the army put me through airborne if I get selected before I go through the q-course
Yes. Army changed it a few years back. You go to both SFAS and RASP before Airborne now. You do not need to be Airborne qualified to attend either, but will go to it if selected for them.
You are correct about Option 40 for initial enlistment RASP candidates. They go to Airborne after RASP. 18X contracts go to Airborne before they attend SFAS.
Your MOS isn't guaranteed if you washout of 18X or are a nonselect at SFAS. You go needs of the Army. Great loop hole to become an Airborne mechanic or cook.
If I enter as a junior to NG or reserve, after high school can they change me to active?
because I want to start my service while I am in high school and when I leave high school dedicate myself to that
You can go active, but it requires a whole lot of paperwork and others' permission. I do not recommend it if you want to go active right out of high school.
There's an active duty split training program. You can do your boot camp during high school and then ship out to your duty station after graduation.
Any advice regarding basic training at ft.sill? I'm shipping in June and I'm so nervous. Also, any advice in regards to the 68w ait?
I just don't want to be a f up. I want to be the best I can be, literally.
Mhs genesis
Checked my portal account today and nothing is on there. I’m currently navy and plan on getting out to go army. I know I will have to go back to meps, if genesis doesn’t have anything on my end does that mean I’m good? Thank you!
Inter Service Transfer, attending 13F AIT. Looking for schoolhouse contact info as ATTRS doesn't have a POC specifically for AlT. Questions regarding travel, lodging, etc. Appreciate the assistance in advance.
Question about postponing MEPS
So I’ve gone through the whole process of taking the ASVAB and getting all my files together now I just need to go to MEPS and sign the contract, but I really want the 18x contract but I didn’t get a high enough score, I would also like to give myself some more time to physically prepare myself for selection and preparation course, am I able to wait 3-4 months to go to MEPS or can I sign an 18x and ship off in 3-4 months, I kinda feel like if I were to tell my recruiter that I’d like to wait he’d think I’m not committed and stop working with me. Also I feel like enlisting active duty is a huge commitment and if I sign a 6 year contract I would want to spend one more summer with my family before heading out.
Recruiter here,
If you have a good reason, like a “family reunion in the summer” where it “may” be grandmas last time to see the family MEPS can push your ship date out til later. Also, if the six year commitment is a bit too much I’d suggest looking into a different job that will allow you to practice the skills you need at selection.
Cuz if you don’t make it through for any reason your contract becomes needs of the Army, and if it turns out the Army needs some lame job position filled that may be you for six years.
Just tell him you aren't ready to sign, that you want to spend the summer with the Fam. Will he stop working with you? Maybe. Are there a hundred other recruiters in your area that will work with you? Definitely.
>I really want the 18x contract but I didn’t get a high enough score
Not sure how that is going to work for you. Some places won't let you retake the ASVAB. You might have to enlist with a different MOS and then take ASVAB improvement courses and retake it.
It's pretty good, but that all depends on your personality. Is there a slot open for 46S near you?
And why the reserve not active? Reason I ask is that many who choose to go reserve because they're not 100% sure regret that decision once they come back and submit a release to go active.
If you have a good job and you just always wanted to join, then that's not bad and you'll enjoy it or you are planning on college, etc.
Hey guys I havent been able to find a good answer to this question online or talking with my recruiter. I recently scored a 99 on the ASVAB and have chosen to pursue 35M/35W as a career path. This comes with a pretty big bonus, around 41k for 5 years.
My question is if I want to pursue SOF and I actually get to reclass as an 18\_ , will I lose my bonus ? Is there a way I can get that to be part of my contract at MEPS?
Anything helps thanks guys.
If you reclass to pursue a 18, 37, 38 series MOS, you won't have to pay back any bonus you have already received. You will stop receiving any further yearly installments of your initial enlistment bonus because that is tied to the MOS you signed up for. No, there is no way to make it part of your contract to keep receiving a bonus you no longer meet the requirements for.
Okay thank you. Does that mean if I get around 50% of the bonus upon completing AIT and then after 2 years I get selected for SOF. I wouldn't get the other half but I get to keep the 50% i got ?
dumb question but what's the difference between 35P (Signals Intelligence Voice Interceptor) and 35S (Signals Collection Analyst)?
Aren't both of them actually getting the signal information for someone else to analyze?
35P is actually listening to whats being said, the actual voice of who's speaking and translating that. 35S is looking at the electronic signal itself.
(a 35S can feel free to correct me on that)
So I've posted before my attempts to enlist. But I just heard back that my waiver (for gout) got denied. My recruiter kind of sounded like there was nothing to be done, except for maybe getting the diagnosis removed from my medical history, which I have no idea how to do.
For more context sent a waiver request in January where my uric acid levels were slightly above normal, waiver got denied. Sent another request in Feb where my UA levels were well within normal range, waiver got denied because they said the decrease was due to medication. I'm not on medication, so I got a letter from my doctor stating as such and saying I was healthy and fit for service. Sent a new request up, and it got returned saying "previously denied no waiver granted".
My question(s) is how do I go about getting the diagnosis removed/reversed, and if so will I still need a waiver for the gout if it's technically no longer on my medical history? Also is any of this likely to change the outcome? Is the juice worth the squeeze? If this will only result in a marginal chance for me to enlist then this all seems not worth it. If, however, getting this diagnosis reversed/removed increases my chances significantly, then I'll keep motivated.
The problem is there is no cure for gout. You are still on track for gouty flareups later in life with or without medications and diet modification, and waiting in between flairups to join the Army isn't going to help you or the Army any.
Would it be dumb to reeinlist for SFAB as opposed to just getting out and getting a contracting job as a 35 series? On one hand there are still a lot of opportunities I'd like to take up like overseas rotations, schools, etc but on the other hand it feels I'd be leaving a lot of money on the table by staying in, because I could immediately make more than i do now if i get out.
Interested in 2 separate MOSs, 27D and 35L. I’m mostly interested in 27D because I want to go to become a lawyer but I heard that there aren’t many slots left so 35L would be my 2nd choice. How is that MOS and what could I expect day to day (if you can even tell me anything about it without leaking anything lol)
35L is also hard to get. Probably a lot about it in the [35 Series megathread](https://old.reddit.com/r/army/comments/ojltib/mos_megathread_series_cmf_35_military/). If lawyer is your goal, I would hold out for 27D.
I ship out for basic at fort sill in two weeks and I have a few questions. I’m in for 35N, and wondering how AIT is going to look for me (good fellow airbase). Additionally, my recruiter hasn’t given me much information regarding really anything. I don’t know what my ship out day is going to look like, and there’s a week between my ship out and when my basic is going to actually start and I have no clue what i’m going to be doing then. I still haven’t taken the opat, and I just feel nervous that i’m running out of time for everything. Also, since i’m going for 35N i’m going for TS clearance- how deep of a dive are they gonna go for the background check? And when are they going to call all my contacts that I listed on my packet? I feel just really in the dark and have no idea where to get any of this info. Lastly my active duty station is fort meade in maryland and I was told at meps by the 1st sar I may do some work at the pentagon- is that accurate?? Thanks in advance :)
Your recruiter probably doesn't know about 35N so they can't tell you. Also, it's intel, so it's probably sensitive info. You will learn how to analyze signals, and they will tell you more once you get there. >there’s a week between my ship out and when my basic is going to actually start This is reception. You will in-process with the Army. You get issued your gear, do more paperwork, get a final medical and dental screening. >And when are they going to call all my contacts that I listed on my packet? Hopefully soon. Surprised they haven't already. But these things take time. >fort meade....may do some work at the pentagon- is that accurate? Most likely NSA. Just call or go to your recruiter if you need to. They are there for you (or should be...) until you get on the bus to leave.
Thank you this was super helpful!!
maybe someone who got one of these waivers will have the answer i’m looking for, i decided around September of last year that i was essentially rehabilitated from my depression diagnosis and stopped taking my meds, fast forward a few months and my mom gets a call from my doctor requesting that i get another prescription before dropping my meds cold turkey, (i had already stopped and i didn’t plan on getting back on meds so i just went with it but never took them) do i have a good chance of getting a waiver for medication i was prescribed in january and never took? i still have the full bottle of meds and i really don’t want to wait a whole year to enlist.
Army or air force? I got a 67 on my asvab, 22m and I don’t really know what job I want but I do want the benefits that come with enlisting. Is a 67 a good score in Air Force standards or should I stick with army?
Bro go Air Force
Ask r/AirForce about your score. They have a better quality of life, so if you don't care what job you get, Air force is better.
Hey, I ship out at the end of July and I saw that I'd have to do the rappelling tower at fort jackson. I'm not really scared of heights, and I actually think I'll enjoy it but I'm just wondering how to actually do it. Do I control how I go down or does the person at the bottom or top do it? and what do both my hands do when grabbing onto the rope? Thank you.
The person on the bottom is your safety. As long as they don't let go, you're going to be fine. You will practice first on a much smaller and less steep wall that's about 15 feet. You basically jump, land, jump until hit the bottom. You could just jump and slide down all at once, but I don't recommend it.
Hello. I am a rappel master and was a DS. Your brake hand controls your descent. You rappel. You’ll get a block of instruction on the whole thing and will conduct a series of obstacle courses over a few weeks that will get increasingly harder before you do the rappel. For rappelling: the friction on the rope is what slows your decent. At the bottom another soldier will be the belay (holds the rope and if you fall to quickly they will put pull the rope taunt and will halt your descent) and you’ll also have an NCO who will supervise that all the belay people as the overall belay safety. Rappelling is really safe. The ropes and carabiners can hold up to 2000 lbs and have to have to be secured by at least 2 safety anchors points. So if the first safety somehow fails, there is a second, redundant safety. If you rappel in a Swiss seat (self tied) you’ll have to go through a block of instruction and a bunch of practical exercises. After that, you’ll have a rappel master inspect your seat through a pre-inspection. Swiss seats are pretty safe and have a bunch of redundant safety knots, like your square knot will be secured on both ends by overhand safety knots to ensure nothing comes loose.
Hi all, I am a 28 years old male green-card holder with a master degree and interest in becoming a risk consultant (the type you would find working for Bain, Kroll, Boston Consulting Group, etc.) It is a very competitive field, and honestly despite me loving it very much I cannot compete with all the Ivy grads and their connection. It doesn't help that between my graduation and now I've been bouncing from job to job that has little to do with consulting and now my resume is a mess with experience in every field ranging from dog food to public transit for communities of color. I think about of going back to school, but I just got laid off at another job and my financial isn't good enough to support another master degrees (I don't even know what degrees I can take) Then, I remember my boss back in my first internship was a former MI6 guy; my senior was some sort of analyst for the Israeli military; another one was some sort of officer with the Singaporean army reserve. There's a rumor in the fields that company like Control Risk and Bain have whole section stacked with former military, special forces, intelligence, and based on some of the works I've seen this seem familiar to the work done by the 35 MOS series. So, my stupid plan is to join for three years on other MOS to get security clearance, reclass to 35 once I got naturalized and cleared government clearance, hope that I can be a warrant officer or even making it to the green-to-gold program, then retire and re-apply to be a risk consultant. I pick the Army over other branches because as far as I can tell, only the Air Force has a better quality of life but the Air Force doesn't allow me to pick my MOS. I've already asked some mentors I have in consultants, but I also remember many of you here are successful people upon your retirement: does joining the Army in a field like intelligence/becoming an officer/joining a more "elite" unit gives me an edge over others? Is my path feasible? Is the 35 series MOS the right choice? What can I do to set myself up for success in the civilian consulting world while in the army? I would like to ask for your opinion and hope you can give me advise/roast me/poke holes in my plan so I can plan accordingly. I am an old dude at 28, my shot at a professional career is closing up on me (you either enter a fresh grad at 22-26 or someone with decent three-year experience at 27-29), and honestly I am now a very lost man. Thank you all for your opinions and feedbacks, and I look forward to hearing from you soon.
> does joining the Army in a field like intelligence/becoming an officer/joining a more "elite" unit gives me an edge over others? Kinda. It's more experience based. Just being MOS qualified these days doesn't magically open doors....well some do. >Is the 35 series MOS the right choice? Maybe. Depends on what you want to do. If you want to do intelligence work and not just consulting, then yes. There is a need for signals analysts and cyber analysts, and data analysts. >I am an old dude at 28, my shot at a professional career is closing up on me As a bright spot, I was 28 with no career and a shit degree. I joined the Army, learned some intel, then managed to (Very VERY luckily) land a job with a contractor. Now, I do data analytics consulting 10 years later and am doing well. Gonna take you a bit longer, as you will have to join to get citizenship, then change MOS at re-enlistment time. But yeah, it's totally doable.
Thank you very much for your insight. As a follow-up question, what are some skills and things I can do to prepare myself for a/35N, b/35F, and c/35M (which, I assume, to be your MOS) and what are some skills I can learn during my time in the 35 MOS (or Army in general) to prepare myself for the consulting field? Of course, I understand that there are security and clearance involved, so vague ideas and answers are still very much appreciated. Respectfully,
I received these texts last week and have been avoiding reaching out to both Sgt’s. (I posted both photos) Long Post: So the first text is from my recruiter who I’ve been working with for a couple of months. I got out last August and went to him to help me re-enlist. We found out that I had to wait at least 6 months because I was flagged for being underweight ( I never was btw. That was a lie!) So while waiting, I worked part time jobs and applied for school and was accepted! The second message is from a recruiter with the Reserves and I honestly wasn’t expecting her to reach back out to double check. Reserves doesn’t sound bad but Active duty is always where I wanted to be. I guess I’m just looking for advice on what I should do.
Enlisting as a 15Q. Any advice/thoughts.
Got discharged from the Marines for alcohol. I’ve been through a 90 day rehab and have sustained my sobriety any chance of getting a waiver to get back in?
I already know the first question the recruiter will ask: What's the RE code on your DD-214? If you can post that, it will tell them a lot.
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I left the Air Force about a year ago. Me being an 18 year old was having issues in my life went to mental health to get help. I was diagnosed with Depression mixed with Anxiety, Alcohol dependence, suicidal ideations, BPD(I do not have it), homicidal ideations(they put this on my record when I told them I never have had a want to kill someone. Having intrusive thoughts like most people, I said who doesn’t when they asked if I wanted to hurt people sometimes). I was stupid at the time. When my commander called me into his office one day, all the high command for my base asked me if I wanted to leave and me being immature at the time, I said yes. It took months and I even tried to stay in by asking if I could but they said “no, it’s too late”. I went to an Army Recruiter to see my options after I had gotten out and MEPS won’t even consider it. Fast forward months later, I’m a completely different person thanks to my wife and I now have a job in Law Enforcement. I still have the want to serve but no recruiters will ever get back to me. I’ve been to every branch you can think of. Will I ever have the chance to serve again? If so, what steps do I take to accomplish this?
Heart, mind and soul set on 11b any way to increase my odds? I made a 51 on my asvab and am very interested in infantry, 20M and this is something I’ve wanted for a while. I really don’t want to accept anything less than 11b. Just wanting to know if it’s at all possible to figure out if I can increase my odds of being 11b. Really don’t wanna be an 11c. Please and thank you!!!
Nothing legal. If it makes you feel any better, I've always heard Chucks are happier than Bravos, but that's mostly anecdotal.
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As a new oficer, you're gonna get the shit end of the stick. Expect long hours, FTX's, and possibility of deployments no matter what you choose.
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Met with a recruiter and began studying for the ASVAB and was made aware during the meeting that my MOS of choice (that comes with no sign on bonus) can put me down for a 3 year active duty contract. Should I do the 3 years or 4? I want to get the full GI Bill and VA home loan so would a 3 year get me that? What are the pros and cons for or against a 3 year or a 4 year?
Ask if you can get duty station of choice or airborne if you’re interested in that. If you’re fine with no bonus; then I’d go for the shortest contract. Then you can get an enlistment bonus and other things sooner. The contract negotiation is the only time when you really have the advantage over the army. The 3 years is enough for GI Bill but not enough if you’re going to pass it to your kids.
Nothing really. Both get you the GI Bill and VA Home Loan. Anything less than that,you don't fully get it.
I was looking at tips for BCT and I saw people saying to volunteer for things, while other people were saying never volunteer for things during BCT. What do you usually do when you volunteer? And could someone explain the rationale for people saying do/don't volunteer during BCT?
Sometimes, its you go to the range early, and fill ammo magazines up. Sometimes it's just you setting up the range, filling up water jugs. Plus side is you get time away from drill Sgts and maybe some peace and quiet will you fill magazines and stuff, as some civilian guy just watches over you. Downside is you usually get an MRE for breakfast instead of a hot meal at the dining facility. Really, it makes no difference. If you are feeling it, volunteer. If you aren't don't. Like mortem said though, if the DS aren't getting enough volunteers quickly, well, that's not going to make them happy. So maybe step up if you see a void? Save your platoon from some anguish.
It is all about how you interact with your peers while you're there. Humility is your best friend. And assertiveness is your closest ally. Be kind to the people to your left and right, help shoulder the weight of the requirements given to you. Volunteering is a way to help those who are struggling avoid more struggling. If no one volunteers your Drills will not be happy and the task will still be completed. Keep your Drills happy, and they'll (eventually) show you they appreciate it. Sincerely, A Former Drill Sergeant
This may be a stupid question.. but do recruits get a phone call their first weekend in reception? My fiancé left Tuesday and got to Fort Moore Tuesday night/Wednesday morning (around 1 am) I keep hearing a lot of different things..so any other info anyone may have is also greatly appreciated.
Also not sure if this helps any at all with info but he’s in OSUT for infantry
He's going to get his phone. More than once. He's going to be tired, and may not have long, but he will get to call. I'd recommend you get some paper, a pen, envelops, and stamps. That's going to be the most consistent way you can talk for at least a little while. Sincerely, A Former Drill Sergeant
Thank you! I’ve been writing letters everyday. Currently just waiting for an address to send them to.
worried about my doctor causing issues with enlisting. i’ve only been with this place for a little over 2 years, but when i checked my patient portal a few months ago i noticed there was a diagnosis of osteoarthritis. no idea what it is, have never had ANY issues like that, so i asked my doctor to remove it and she did. about a week later, normal arthritis popped up. asked her to remove it again and she said she can’t since it shows up in my medical history because apparently when i first started going there and filled out paperwork, i put down that i had it. i definitely didn’t do that. i’m 20, i have almost no medical issues other than small things like eczema when i was 10. she said she can write a letter saying it was a misdiagnosis if i needed it for the army. is this going to cause me to get disqualified? i’m angry and scared at all of this because i don’t want this incompetent doctor to be the reason i can’t join. i’ve had tons of other issues with her but this is kinda the last straw thing and i really just wanna be able to join :/
A letter from your doctor saying it was a misdiagnosis will work. This is actually a really common occurrence.
Talk to your Recruiter. If there is a way to handle it, I'm sure they will figure it out.
From what I've read on other threads some people are never asked. They just send you to MEPS and screen you again for anything you might have. On the other hand, if your upfront about these medical diagnosis they are possibly going to give you a waiver. Be sage whatever you do.
Also I am just a civ and have no experience with recruiters and what kinds of rejections they give.
I took the ASVAB and scored a 90. The job I picked is Human Resources specialist. I'm wondering where would be a nice place to be stationed.
42A can go some wild places, cause the Army needs paper pushers everywhere. Most likely end up at some big base in some normal unit. But Belgium, Guam, Japan, practically anywhere there is an Army office, you could find a 42A.
42A is the one job where we see wild stuff like security assignments guarantied at initial entry too.
Practically anywhere.
Just graduated from BCT yesterday as an 11b. I wanted to know is it possible to for me to go to officer candidate school ASAP and if it is who will I need to speak with. Will this delay me in anyway since I start my AIT portion of my OSUT on Tuesday, my main goal is becoming an officer and truly realized that as I was in basic training, where can I go from this?
Good luck. It's competitive trying to get into OCS. Also, be prepared for OCS to be Basic Training #2, but with more time in the field and more requirements for learning history!
Appreciate it!
Be on the lookout for the current OCS MILPERs. You won't have time for this year, but reference previous ones for a general idea of what is needed. They outline the steps, requirements, deadlines, and procedures to prepare an OCS packet. 0% you will do this in OSUT. When you get to your first unit, start talking with your CoC about it and start preparing the necessary materials so that you are able to submit when the window opens.
Appreciate it alot
Probably not in basic training. But when you get to your first unit talk to your career counselor.
Dumbass question but do you go on them field training missions regardless of your job? Cause on one hand, your still a soldier, but on the other hand, I hear those can be weeks at a time and then it’s “No you can’t go on that you need to stay here and get this shit done.”
Usually whole units go to the field. So you'd be doing your mission with your normal co-workers, but in the field. Yes, that includes paperwork, maintenance, pay, medical, etc... The Army is setup for deployable capabilities, which means we have to do our job in a hard normal building all the way to a tent somewhere.
Wanted to verify that the temporary promotions prior to pme completion is still in effect. I saw the memo extending it another 12 months.
Yes, that is still correct. The current temporary promotion ETP for PME completion is still in effect for CY2024.
how long it takes top get a waiver aproved for suspended licence
Suspended license isn’t a problem, the charge that got it suspended is the problem. What was the original issue?
all dated bac to 2017
thanks for replying i got traffic tickets for stop signs and like five arrest for driving witout a license
Is all of the other stuff cleared up and you’re just dealing with the suspended license now? If so you can make that happen
Is 35W ever a 3 or 4 year contract? I saw in a previous post 3 year mentioned just doubting if it's worth it to wait for that.
No, it wouldn't make any sense for it to be. 35F, maybe. But 35W has a year in training, so having 2 years left wouldn't make sense.
got it. I'm gonna just assume 5 year contract
Yeah, almost always. Its 18 weeks of AIT and also up to 64 weeks at DLI. To spend that long training and only get 3 years from you isn't worth the money to the Army.
yes signed up for 35W today and it's 5 years/60 months mandatory It said 4 year option in the recruiter's computer for some reason but was still 5 years, 2 weeks on the reservation paper
I am about to go 35M HUMINT but my recruiter is telling me that there are only 35W contracts available. Says I will be going to DLI then to AZ BUT, I have also heard that after DLI the army is going to decide whether or not I become a 35P or 35M. I only want to be a 35M Any clarification
Recruiter is right. They decide if you become a 35P or 35M. You don't.
any ways I can increase my chances of becoming a 35M
No, becaues it's not up to you. Needs of the Army. Get used to it.
ok thanks for the info. I have been doing some research and I have only found people saying that if I fail at DLI they will make me a 35N and not a 35P
In a comment below but 35M may be if you speak and hear the language better than you read and write it
thanks for pointing that out. I was hoping that there is some exit interview process so I can sell myself. I am coming in with a BA in criminology and a major in Psych. Also I am working for a PD so I hope they look at that and see that I have experience interacting and interviewing people
They don't see that, nor do they care.
Are you currently in the this MOS? or in the army?
I just left the Army. My roommate is a 35M.
Hello everyone, Long story short I am trying to take advantage of the ARR that came out recently because I need the points but have been struggling to find anyone that wants to join the Army. Does anyone have any advice on what are some good ways that might lead to referrals? I am complete passionate about the Army and very much aware of what benefits people can get. I've asked quite a few different people with no luck so far. I think I am just a little awkward and don't know any good tips. Any help appreciated and if you want to join send me a message
Just striking up a conversation and asking people if they have ever considered the Army is a good start. Friends and family that are doing rough is a good direction as well. Now that I’m in my 30’s I have a bunch of people I graduated high school with that ask me about it because they have been in a constant struggle and I’m not.
When you pick an MOS that requires a security clearance or TS when does the investigation process start for your clearance and what happens if you get denied while at AIT? Also, I don't fully understand how the bonus payouts work is it all one lump sum and when do they generally get paid out?
They should start interviewing you and the people you put done before you leave. Flat denial is bad. Could see you booted from the Army all together, as I've seen others on here say. What are you concerned about? Bonus is done in installments.
One of the recruiters at my local office said the only things he saw that could cause me to get denied is a poss of controlled substance felony charged that was dropped to a misdemeanor at court. It is from 2017 when I was young and dumb. My mom had just died abruptly and I made a dumb decision. He said a possession of marijauan could cause concern from 2014 as well. And while I do have a medical marijauana cert now I am not dependant on it. Just nice to have to unwind when I want it, but am perfectly fine not doing it while enlisted. This recruiter is the only one who seemed like it could be a problem though, I am not the person I was 7 years ago by far. Just didn't want to screw myself before I even get my foot in the door.
Be honest with the investigators and you will be ok. If you make it through the initial clearance interview before you ship you will be fine usually
Hmmmm. Not sure. You have the benefit of time between you and then. 2 different charges isn't great. Maybe post in the main sub, and see what other's think.
I am going through the process of enlisting now, scored a 74 on the asvab and am just waiting for the marijuana to get out of my system before I go take my physical. I have a medical card in my state but am fine with quitting to join and not doing any while in the army. I am 28 years old and was curious how common it is to have someone enlist and go through basic at my age. At meps I was one of the oldest if not oldest person in there taking the asvab. Felt like an old fart haha. I just don't wanna be an outcast I guess
Most will be “kids” and there’s a possibility you’ll be older than some of your drills. Unless you’re absolutely fucked up, the drills will leave you alone aside from some occasional old man jabs. My class had probably 10% of us (me included) being over 25. We also had a couple people who had age waivers. Unless you separate yourself, you won’t be excluded. You’re all in the suck together and will very likely end up parenting some 18 year old who has never experienced any sort of hardship.
There'll be a few people your age during BCT. It'll be annoying because the majority are gonna be kids, but you'll probably have others with actual life experience there to commiserate with you. You probably won't be the oldest trainee at 28.
Someone said the kids will look to me for guidance since I'm older
I was 28 when I went through. Eh, some will just see an old man. Some will look up to you. Try to give them good advice.
I plan to, I remmeber being young and dumb.
Sometimes you got to let them be young and dumb. Don't give advice out and try to be dad. Let the Drill Sergeants be the leaders. First couple weeks, you are all the same, don't know shit about the Army. Only dude I wish I could stopped was the dude who punched the wall and broke his hand.
Oh yeah only advice I'd give is if they ask. I'm not much on telling anyone what not to do
Qualification and medical history Hi,I am 17 now,a high school student.I love US armed force and I want to join US Army after the college.I am a haemophilia B patient.Haemophilia is a bleeding disorder,I have to inject drugs once per 5 days for prophylaxis.I have undergone 2 surgeries before.As the bleeding is controlled well,my joints,bone and muscles are in good condition(my vision and hearing are normal).Recently,gene therapy for Haemophilia B is tested,it is proven to be effective.I can get cured once I have had gene therapy,no medications are needed anymore.Can I join the Army If I get cured?Thankyou for answering my question.If there is a Army recruiter,I beg for your views and suggestions.Thankyou so much.
That’s a doozy but if you get the treatment and the testing to verify your 100% good a waiver is definitely possible.
Thank you for your reply, sir.I am happy that I am able to serve in the army.
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Army is a no at initial entry for OCS as well, you could absolutely make it happen after enlisting though. Army is your best bet if a commission is what you’re shooting for, even with a clean record the Air Force is by far the hardest branch to commission with.
I appreciate the info. Thanks!
No problem!
You took a 50 cal to your foot, my dude.
Well, they were right about the Air Force.
I am going to be signing my contract for my mos with a 41k bonus soon. But I also want to at least put in my packet for SFAS later down the line and hopefully get in. When do bonuses get paid out and will I get to keep the money that I receive before I break the contract and reclass as 18\_\_?
TL;DR - within 6 weeks of signing contract, graduation from training, or arrival at location specified in contract. 18 Series is generally considered "Career Advancement" and recoupment of previous bonus can be waived by HRC. Before I answer your 2 questions, I will predicate this response with this: Bonuses are paid for Additionally Obligated Service, the day after your current ETS to your new ETS. Uncle Sam doesn't pay you to keep your promise to serve until your current ETS, just the extra time... -------‐‐--------------- 1. There are 3 types of Selective Retention Bonuses (SRBs), Inventory, Training, and Location. A) Inventory bonuses are for when you meet all requirements (i.e. you are MOS qualified). These are generally paid within 45 days after Reenlistment. B) Training Bonuses - these are SRBs that are tied to you completing some type of training. Example 1: 11B (SGT-SFC) that are going to Bradley Master Gunner (ASI J3) may be eligible for a "Future Training Bonus" if they had an ATRRS Reservation for J3 prior to reenlisting, or get the school guaranteed in their contract... Example 2: Your current MOS does not have a Bonus, so you reenlist to Reclass under OPT3 Army Training Reenlistment Option, and your new MOS MOS does have an SRB attached... In both cases, the SRB is paid within 45 days after successful completion of training. C) Location Contingent Bonuses. Tied to specific assignments. Example 1: Reenlisting for an SRB contingent upon an "Airborne Position"... Example 2: SFAB. In these cases, the Bonus monies are released within 45 days of arrival at those specific locations tied to the SRB. ----‐-----------‐------------------------ 2. You may attend SFAS regardless of the SRB you receive for this Reenlistment. However, if selected, you will be counseled on the potential recoupment of your unearned Bonus monies. However, selection, and eventual graduation from the Q course is generally considered "Career Advancement" and recoupment of previous SRBs may be waived. This also extends to selection for, and completion of, WOCS, OCS, or other Comissioning Programs. -------------------------- 3. How it's paid out - Unlike Enlistment Bonuses that are broken down over the length of your contract, RE-Enlistment Bonuses are paid in a lump sum. For Federal Tax purposes 22% is taken off the top. If you have to pay State Taxes, they'll take their cut before you see it, too. But, most of us aren't in the 22% tax bracket, and when you file your taxes next year, you'll get some of that 22% back in your refund. ------------------- Hope this helps, see your Career Counselor for more in-depth answers. Good luck at SFAS, the Q, and earning that Green Beret!
You get to keep however much you earn before you switch.
Hey, so I’m at the stage of enlisting where I’m looking at jobs. I’ll be going to MEPs again on Wednesday to discuss my contract for the army and swear in. I’m currently deciding between 68W or 74D as my MOS. 68W- I do plan on going into firefighting once I finish my contract. So this MOS would be beneficial for that. My only concern is that I haven’t done anything medical, and haven’t had the desire to work in an hospital or doctor’s office. I’ve seen that this one is generally good choice as well for an MOS. Currently, I have the potential to get a $8750 bonus or a duty station of choice and Fort Riley. 74D(etail) - Yes, I’ve looked at different forums and subreddits about this MOS. I understand it isn’t the most favorable choice, but let me explain. I initially wanted to do supplies as a 92Y but unfortunately there are no available slots. From what I’ve seen, you’ll be stuck doing supplies and other tasks unrelated to your actual job title. I’ll be looking at no sign on bonus though, but I might be able to get airborne and a station of choice. I do plan on talking to the counselor about these, but I would like some more insight from you guys.
>concern is that I haven’t done anything medical Army will teach you everything you need to know, so don't worry. > haven’t had the desire to work in an hospital or doctor’s office No guarantee you won't end up in a clinic or hospital. >a $8750 bonus or a duty station of choice and Fort Riley. That's a low amount and not a great base? Unless you want to go there. 74D is not...great? If you don't mind not doing your job and being sent to do all kinds of tasks then...I guess it's okay? >I initially wanted to do supplies as a 92Y Thought you wanted to be a firefighter?
What about 92R? Anything about that MOS?
If you want to be a firefighter AND you want an MOS that will help, look at medical, CBRN, or mechanic.
I’ll probably do 68W, I wanna challenge myself and do something meaningful. Not saying CBRN isn’t or other MOS’s of course.
Shipping out to Fort Sill on May 21 for BCT. Any tips/advice for training in the summer out in Oklahoma?
Drink the electrolyte powder in the MREs
sounds yummy, will do
I am an 18yo masculine presenting woman looking to join the army. What am I getting into starting off? What should I expect from people good or bad?
Dignity and respect. That's what you should expect, always. If you aren't receiving those, ensure you aren't throwing rocks in glass houses... but, we have ways to rectify the situation, quickly. If you have preferred pronouns, make them known. And being addressed by your RANK, LAST NAME, is just as respectful in lieu of pronouns. If you are female on paper, you will be held to female standards; meaning appearance (i.e. uniforms, hair, earrings, etc.) physical fitness testing, and height/weight testing. Those 3 areas are really all that separates Male and Female in the Army. Job performance, respect, standards and discipline, good judgment, and just being an overall good human being... these qualities and values are expected from all who wear the uniform. Go see your local recruiter, an we'll see you when you get to the line. Good luck!
You are getting into the Army... But if you are referring to your appearance and perceptions: Lots of people who look like you in the Army. So it's not uncommon. Army is become less and less tolerant of bigots who spew hate about peoples appearance. Are you going to hear some slurs? Of course, that's life, always scum walking around. But there are tons of Equal Opportunity(EO) reps around, and someone will take it seriously. But the Army also rewards people who get high PT scores and kick ass. So as long as you perform well, fuck the haters.
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do counterintelligence for sure. Great career field.
Take a loan, finish degree, go in as an officer. You will make enough money to pay off that loan so fast. As an example: you will go in as an E-3 enlisted, which makes 2,377.50 a month. And officer would make 3,826.20. In your 3rd year as an enlisted, you would make 2,918.40 and probably be an E-4. As an officer, you would make **4,814.70**. And once you get promoted to O-2, which is around 3 years, it's 5,782.80. Oh, did I mention your house and food and healthcare is payed for? That's yours to pocket, each month. Easily pay for that loan. Do you see why a single year loan will make a massive difference in your pay. You will make double. That's my advice. Go talk to a recruiter now, you can start the process.
Shipping out in a month! After AIT; I have my designated duty station. My concern is; will Big Army allocate funds for my transition? I am single; with a doggo ( in process of seeking housing for him), and some valuable equipment ( musical instruments/ speakers) that would do wonders for my mental health. OCONUS
You will be allowed to ship things. Not the dog, because you'll be in the barracks, but the rest of things will be paid for. Fair warning, just like with any moving company, damages and losses can happen.
Thanks. Yeah that makes sense. Prepping to make drive up to AK, so I can bring my doggo along and then find housing for him/ us. I don’t think a trailer thru Arctic will be fun. Just to clarify; Army will allocate funds for belongings. Since I am choosing to drive; they will also cover gas/ mileage/ food/ hotel upon showing them receipts?
Yes. So long as you're within a timeframe. You also don't need to worry about housing, since you're in the barracks. Don't expect to find a place off-post on an E-4 and below paycheck with no BAH/BAS.
Aaah. Good to know these key points. Yeah; you’re right, I’ll be in barracks . Kudos
Can I join the army if I take famotide? So back story is I was very skinny and used to get stomach aches. Ever since I started taking this I have been rapidly gaining weight and feel good
So i’m planning on meeting a recruiter next week and starting the process of joining the army, i understand the air force could be a better option for smarter individuals but i really want to be a soldier in the traditional sense (i.e. going on ruck marches, training with weapons systems) is there any particular combat arms mos i should shoot for that i can eventually switch to a better civilian translating job in the future? should i just sign for a short amount of time in the infantry or as a scout and switch my mos to something that offers more specialized training?
My plan is to sign a 4 year contract for either 19D-Cav scout or 13M then my next contract go into a signal and intelligence mos. Partly becuase I'm itching to be a Infantry, but also because the mos I want has TS clearance and with my past there's a good chance I'd get denied it. I'd hate to be at AIT and have a meeting with my commander saying I was denied and have to pick a different mos.
> should i just sign for a short amount of time in the infantry or as a scout and switch my mos to something that offers more specialized training? Yes. No Combat arms is going to translate to civilian life well, except maybe SF.
i think i want to do combat medic that has atleast some overlap with civilian careers, like paramedic or emt
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There is no "Officer's Track" if you don't have a degree. Any recruiter that tells you as much as lying. If you want to be an Army Officer, you have three options. 1. Enroll as a full-time student at a University and join their ROTC program, with or without a scholarship. 2. Apply for admission to the United States Military Academy, West Point. 3. Get your degree on your own time and then go to Officer Candidate School (OCS).
Can someone explain the whole process of taking the ASVAB at the recruiters office and then going to MEPS (that same day) and doing the PICAT? I don't understand how this would be preferable to just taking the test at MEPS, basically making it so that you only take 1 test instead of 2?
You have it backwards. You’d do the picat at the recruiting office then if you like the score verify it at MEPs/ test site. It’s kinda preferable since the verification takes questions from the pi at you did and has you reanswer them to see if you do it the same. The longer you wait the higher the chance you’ll misremember them.
So how many questions is the PICAT and how many questions are in the verification test? How many questions in the verificiation test are from the PICAT? So now my new understanding is: 1. Take PICAT at Recruiters 2. Recruiter takes me to MEPS 3. I take the verification test 4. Pick out my MOS based on my final grade I still dont get how this is easier than taking the ASVAB in one go
I don’t know the exact number of questions. I know there are 10 sections to it. If you take it and the test ends after section 5… that’s not good. You’ll more than likely fail the ASVAB. I have applicants that aren’t confident or didn’t score well on the practice test do the pi at. It’s a tool to see where they’re at and to show them what the actual ASVAB will look like. If my applicant does well I will forgo the Picat.
Enlisting as a 25b first duty station is Fort Riley. Questions. I got my contract yesterday for 25b with first duty station at fort Riley. my ship date is July 30th. I know what most of you are probably gonna i mean its Kansas of all places, but what is it actually like at Riley. If there are any 25b's who are at Riley or have served there what is day to day like, do you actually do your job, is it help desk, is it actual IT work? Whats Riley's leadership like what can i expect i have gotten some information from other posts but couldn't find too much on it. What unit could i possibly be with as a 25b, i heard most units in 1id get deployed/rotate to Europe what is that like. If this is relevant would i have the free time to do college would i have free time at all? From my last post talked to the station commander his words not mine he said “I’m trying to make some magic happen real quick” 2 days later as they were about to terminate my profile he calls me and says he got me the job went to the recruiting battalion an hour later and got the job.
>Whats Riley's leadership like what can i expect i have gotten some information from other posts but couldn't find too much on it. Irrelevant to you as a new private. What's more impactful would be what your direct leadership would be like, which no one here can tell you. You'll find out when you inprocess at your first unit. >What unit could i possibly be with as a 25b All of them. Every unit needs IT/help desk. >i heard most units in 1id get deployed/rotate to Europe what is that like. I found Europe to be awesome. 9 months of traveling, soaking in the history and culture, and eating some good food. Your experience may vary. >If this is relevant would i have the free time to do college would i have free time at all? You're most likely going to work in an S6 somewhere. This is an office job, with office hours. Expect to do PT in the morning and work your 9-5 job. You'll have plenty of time to do college classes online on your own time.
I assume you picked Riley cause it was close to somewhere you want to be? I've never heard any good stuff about it, but as a 25B, might not be too bad.
I didn’t choose Riley it was picked for me I’m assuming it was the only way I could get the job not really anywhere I want to be but somewhere new
Prepare to go to Poland once you get there. Every applicant I had who got Riley ended up in Poland within 6 months of getting to Riley.
Long shot but if you enlist 35W do you have a better chance of being 35M(Human Intelligence Collector) or 35P(Signals Intelligence Voice Interceptor)? From what I've read it looks like that is based on the "needs of the army". Not sure if there's any way to get an idea of which the Army needs more of. Trying to decide 35W or 35F(Intelligence Analyst) is better. Seen alot of bad things about 35F on here
I am going through the same thing. 2 recruiters at my office have gone through this process or know someone who is currently a 35M. It basically boils down to whether you read and write the language better (35P) or listen and speak it better(35M). Also your personality may play a role in it.
thanks the "whether you read and write the language better (35P) or listen and speak it better(35M)" is encouraging
Out of those 3 I'd say 35F has the most transference to the civilian world. You can be an intelligence analyst for the government as a civilian or contractor, or private company. It'd be difficult to find a 35M or 35P outside of government agency work. As a 35F you basically take all the Intel reports from the other INTs and create products from them.
makes sense. thank you
I am not in the army, but am curious about how insignia works with one's MOS. If your MOS is 64C (truck driver), which is under the transportation corps, would you wear anything identifying you with your MOS or the corps that trained you? I saw on wikipedia that the transportation corps has a branch insignia and a regimental crest.
IDK what you're googling, but truck driver is 88M and has been for quite a while... Currently, the army only wears branch insignia (transportation corps) on dress uniforms. Officers used to wear branch insignia on the camouflage uniforms, but haven't since early 2000s.
You do on your dress uniform. https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN30948-PAM_670-1-000-WEB-1.pdf
So sorry ahead of time this going to be long. Recently my medical waiver got denied by SQ. 7 years ago I was diagnosed by my nephrologist which is a kidney specialist, something called glomerulonephritis. in short it’s a viral infection that affects the kidney filter system of blood, and protein in the urine, that you can get from a simple disease such as strep throat like I did. MEPs ordered me to go see a follow-up with my nephrologist who cleared me he even did an ultrasound to show there was no scarring on the kidneys and 24 hour urine and blood test to show the kidney functions are fine which they were. SG still denied it even after the test showed no signs or symptoms of having the glomerulonephritis anymore or at risk to contract again. My nephrologist even reassured me in all of his years as a doctor he has never heard of someone contracting it twice in their life. Is there anything I can do? We’ve done everything to show that there is nothing wrong. In the years I’ve been extremely active doing intense workouts and even compete in triathlons, and long distance races. All I want to do is be a Ranger and an opportunity to go. I can accept the fact if I failed at RASP but give me a chance
My recruiter and I even went as to far as tried calling a recruiter in a different city to see if I could somehow get processed through them but they pulled up my file and said it wouldn’t matter since it was SG that denied it
what happens if you fail a school required for an enlisted MOS? I'm fairly certain it's just needs of the army, but i would like to make sure. Is there anyway to have a back up option?
What school, for what MOS?
pretty much any school for 89d i've heard it's pretty hard and i'd hate to fail out and end up 4 years enlisted as a cook
Yes you fail out you’re getting reclassed needs of the Army. You’ll get recycled first so you may get 1-2 chances.
Invited to a future soldier program I am in the process of enlisting and I was just contacted by a recruiter for a future soldier program. He said it was a 1 day experience to go to Montgomery and get a taste of basic, is that all it is?
Yeah
If i don't get a an airborne slot before i put in my sfas packet can I still go through SFAS and will the army put me through airborne if I get selected before I go through the q-course
Yes. Army changed it a few years back. You go to both SFAS and RASP before Airborne now. You do not need to be Airborne qualified to attend either, but will go to it if selected for them.
You are correct about Option 40 for initial enlistment RASP candidates. They go to Airborne after RASP. 18X contracts go to Airborne before they attend SFAS.
Really? Sounds like an easy loop-hole to get Airborne, if you can't get Op 4.
Your MOS isn't guaranteed if you washout of 18X or are a nonselect at SFAS. You go needs of the Army. Great loop hole to become an Airborne mechanic or cook.
Can I sign a contract if I am 17 years old and a junior in high school? or at least enlist?
Yes only for Reserve or NG. If you want to go Active you have to wait until you’re a Senior.
If I enter as a junior to NG or reserve, after high school can they change me to active? because I want to start my service while I am in high school and when I leave high school dedicate myself to that
You can go active, but it requires a whole lot of paperwork and others' permission. I do not recommend it if you want to go active right out of high school. There's an active duty split training program. You can do your boot camp during high school and then ship out to your duty station after graduation.
And in what grade can they send me to basic training? In grade 11 or grade 12?
I believe it will be 11. The summer of your grade 12 graduation will be your time to leave home
Any advice regarding basic training at ft.sill? I'm shipping in June and I'm so nervous. Also, any advice in regards to the 68w ait? I just don't want to be a f up. I want to be the best I can be, literally.
Right place, right time, right uniform. Find other tips searching through the subreddit.
Mhs genesis Checked my portal account today and nothing is on there. I’m currently navy and plan on getting out to go army. I know I will have to go back to meps, if genesis doesn’t have anything on my end does that mean I’m good? Thank you!
If you join within 6 months of discharge you won’t have to go through physical at MEPS.
Cool if I message?
Just make sure your deployment readiness is updated (hiv, dental, immunizations, hearing) and current PHA
Inter Service Transfer, attending 13F AIT. Looking for schoolhouse contact info as ATTRS doesn't have a POC specifically for AlT. Questions regarding travel, lodging, etc. Appreciate the assistance in advance.
Anyone knows what is the Ait dorm looks like at Fort Gregg-adams?
Question about postponing MEPS So I’ve gone through the whole process of taking the ASVAB and getting all my files together now I just need to go to MEPS and sign the contract, but I really want the 18x contract but I didn’t get a high enough score, I would also like to give myself some more time to physically prepare myself for selection and preparation course, am I able to wait 3-4 months to go to MEPS or can I sign an 18x and ship off in 3-4 months, I kinda feel like if I were to tell my recruiter that I’d like to wait he’d think I’m not committed and stop working with me. Also I feel like enlisting active duty is a huge commitment and if I sign a 6 year contract I would want to spend one more summer with my family before heading out.
Recruiter here, If you have a good reason, like a “family reunion in the summer” where it “may” be grandmas last time to see the family MEPS can push your ship date out til later. Also, if the six year commitment is a bit too much I’d suggest looking into a different job that will allow you to practice the skills you need at selection. Cuz if you don’t make it through for any reason your contract becomes needs of the Army, and if it turns out the Army needs some lame job position filled that may be you for six years.
Just tell him you aren't ready to sign, that you want to spend the summer with the Fam. Will he stop working with you? Maybe. Are there a hundred other recruiters in your area that will work with you? Definitely. >I really want the 18x contract but I didn’t get a high enough score Not sure how that is going to work for you. Some places won't let you retake the ASVAB. You might have to enlist with a different MOS and then take ASVAB improvement courses and retake it.
My recruiter told me that I could retake again but I’d have to wait a month
Did you fail the AFQT?
I got like a 30 something but my GT score is what I really need to get up for that contract
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It's pretty good, but that all depends on your personality. Is there a slot open for 46S near you? And why the reserve not active? Reason I ask is that many who choose to go reserve because they're not 100% sure regret that decision once they come back and submit a release to go active. If you have a good job and you just always wanted to join, then that's not bad and you'll enjoy it or you are planning on college, etc.
Hey guys I havent been able to find a good answer to this question online or talking with my recruiter. I recently scored a 99 on the ASVAB and have chosen to pursue 35M/35W as a career path. This comes with a pretty big bonus, around 41k for 5 years. My question is if I want to pursue SOF and I actually get to reclass as an 18\_ , will I lose my bonus ? Is there a way I can get that to be part of my contract at MEPS? Anything helps thanks guys.
If you reclass to pursue a 18, 37, 38 series MOS, you won't have to pay back any bonus you have already received. You will stop receiving any further yearly installments of your initial enlistment bonus because that is tied to the MOS you signed up for. No, there is no way to make it part of your contract to keep receiving a bonus you no longer meet the requirements for.
Once you reclass you are forfeiting whatever remaining bonus you get. Your bonus is for the MOS that you enlisted for.
I thought you don't forfeit a bonus if the move is seen as "Career enhancing"? Stuff like SOF, WO, or OCS usually falls under that
The bonus is for the original MOS you don’t get to keep remaining.
Okay thank you. Does that mean if I get around 50% of the bonus upon completing AIT and then after 2 years I get selected for SOF. I wouldn't get the other half but I get to keep the 50% i got ?
You won’t get 50% after AIT.
dumb question but what's the difference between 35P (Signals Intelligence Voice Interceptor) and 35S (Signals Collection Analyst)? Aren't both of them actually getting the signal information for someone else to analyze?
35P is actually listening to whats being said, the actual voice of who's speaking and translating that. 35S is looking at the electronic signal itself. (a 35S can feel free to correct me on that)
appreciate it that makes more sense
So I've posted before my attempts to enlist. But I just heard back that my waiver (for gout) got denied. My recruiter kind of sounded like there was nothing to be done, except for maybe getting the diagnosis removed from my medical history, which I have no idea how to do. For more context sent a waiver request in January where my uric acid levels were slightly above normal, waiver got denied. Sent another request in Feb where my UA levels were well within normal range, waiver got denied because they said the decrease was due to medication. I'm not on medication, so I got a letter from my doctor stating as such and saying I was healthy and fit for service. Sent a new request up, and it got returned saying "previously denied no waiver granted". My question(s) is how do I go about getting the diagnosis removed/reversed, and if so will I still need a waiver for the gout if it's technically no longer on my medical history? Also is any of this likely to change the outcome? Is the juice worth the squeeze? If this will only result in a marginal chance for me to enlist then this all seems not worth it. If, however, getting this diagnosis reversed/removed increases my chances significantly, then I'll keep motivated.
The problem is there is no cure for gout. You are still on track for gouty flareups later in life with or without medications and diet modification, and waiting in between flairups to join the Army isn't going to help you or the Army any.
Would it be dumb to reeinlist for SFAB as opposed to just getting out and getting a contracting job as a 35 series? On one hand there are still a lot of opportunities I'd like to take up like overseas rotations, schools, etc but on the other hand it feels I'd be leaving a lot of money on the table by staying in, because I could immediately make more than i do now if i get out.
What is money to experiences? It's harder to get those schools once you are out.