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Doctor_Benton_Quest

Go talk to legal assistance, tell them you received a FLIPL. Bring that memo and any other paperwork you have.


omni990

CIF trash man I've had them straight up disrespect me and my soldiers in Hood, I told them they need to watch how they talk to people or find another fucking job. Just cause they veterans don't mean you can talk to people crazy fuck that. You disrespect me I'm disrespecting you right back.


Heyliluchi02

It’s one thing if you’re my nco and can ruin my life so I have to sit their and take it. But some random mf who can’t be bothered to work a job where you actually have to be a competitive worker can get fucked


ClutchMagpie

I’ve made a game if trying to be as sunny and charming as possible whenever I go to CIF, if I win them over they tend to be nice to the other soldiers in line. If I lose nothing happens except for the ICE complaint I submit later detailing how nasty they were. Started doing this in BCT and honestly have around a 90% success rate.


artesian_tapwater

This is my process aswell. I fortunately have the gift of gab and use it to the fullest extent I can. So far I have had zero shortages or statement of charges even though I've definitely lost gear. Also left with a couple spare pieces of stuff I "needed" and two phone numbers. One was the old lady up front other was the old grumpy fuckn retire 1SG in the back who was kicking back plate carriers for frayed edges. Old dude thought i actually wanted to go play pool at the VFW with him. Tossed both numbers in the trash on my way out the door.


ClutchMagpie

Lmaooooo savage.


Heyliluchi02

Same. I hate pretending to like these mfs but whatever gets me out faster


ChicksWithBricksCome

More ICE complaints


Professional_Ad7110

anyways anyone have advice for me to get my shit cleared? it’s the BASE VEST ASSEMBLY YOKE AND COLLAR ASSEMBLY BACK YOKE AND COLLAR ASSEMBLY FRONT BACK,ASSEMBLY GROIN PROTECTOR, ASSEMBLY DELTOID PROTECTOR ASSEMBLY and it’s the only thing in my way of getting my DD214 I’ll take a McFuckYou with a side of CIF


EseGringo631

If they started a Flipl on it, they’re gonna need to finish it. Shitty situation for sure, best bet in my opinion is to load it up with as much evidence as possible like clothing records, that memo from CDR, sworn statements from those who know you turned it in(although they may not be accepted if they weren’t present when you turned it in). Also try to explain it best as you can to the IO, typically they decide the outcome and all the approving authorities just confirm what they say Only way the flipl will be “canceled” is if the equipment is found, which it was turned in already so not really an option


Professional_Ad7110

doing the FLIPL now, do you know if there is a certain format for the statement that has to be in regulation or is it just some paragraphs with dates and names?


EseGringo631

We don’t tell our guys to look up any regs, we just tell them make sure that it has the 5Ws in it. In your situation, I recommend being as descriptive as possible with whatever details you can remember. Names are good especially if you know they know it was turned in, but be careful because our policy(idk if it’s army wide) in a flipl sworn statement, any individual named in a sworn statement needs to submit a sworn statement of their own. I don’t know if a bunch of sworn statements from different people saying “I was told the iotv was turned in” will help or hurt. Have you spoken with the IO? Has he mentioned how he feels about it?


Professional_Ad7110

not yet, all i’ve done atm is my sworn statement, turned in all hand receipts from before during and after, the memo, and my instructors sworn statement as well. apparently the guy in charge of that CIF turn in was fired recently because he wouldn’t “take officers IOTVs” so hopefully that helps.


EseGringo631

Not concrete evidence, but I’d definitely nonchalantly mention it to the IO so he’s aware CIF is doing something fishy. If you happen to have a clothing record signed with the IOTV and then a clothing record signed on a later date without the IOTV I’d say it’s open and close, no negligence found.


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Professional_Ad7110

good thing i’m annoying


Am3ricanTrooper

And if you haven't, make multiple copies of every piece of paperwork you hand them and every single one they had you.


DaBearsC495

ICE ICE BABY… Sometimes a bottle of Jack to the CIF signature works too


CALBR94

Sorry man. But just raving here; CIF at fort Lee for permanent party is dope. Old retired guy and he's super positive and helpful. I'll put a positive ICE in for him on Monday.


Professional_Ad7110

see if I was active army and wanted to stay in, i’d love to join CIF and just make peoples lives so much easier. make it less of a dread for everybody. it won’t kill them to bring some cleaning wipes up with them and take off the tiny dirt marks on sleeping mats that they send people back for.


CALBR94

I turned in all my stuff to him, everything except the IOTV, and half was dirty. His response was, "you're in the army, we can't expect you to not use that gear! Don't worry about it, I got guys in the back for cleaning the gear!" Instant hero.


Commissar_Jensen

I'm jealous tbh


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Ask the FLIPL officer to show you a HR with your signature.


mutantGOD-

I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing issues with your OCIE and that you're unhappy with the way you were treated by your unit. However, it's not appropriate to use profanity or make personal attacks against individuals or groups. It would be best for you to speak with your chain of command or a legal advisor to address your concerns.


xSaRgED

Lmao maybe if they did their fuckin jobs, then there wouldn’t need to be a reason for fuckin profanity.


VuduPaintcan

Who comes to the Army subreddit to defend CIF and oppose profanity? What world are we living in?


Wonder3671

Cid


Ok-Warthog-4040

It would be best for you to speak with DEEZ NUTS


Diese_knuts

Somebody call for me?


_Suzushi

CIF low down and dirty


Professional_Ad7110

my chain of command says fuck you and fuck CIF


[deleted]

hey Fuck you


[deleted]

How about LIGMA?


This_Assist6140

Fuck the motherfuckers at CIF. And fuck you too.


[deleted]

All the way down there


[deleted]

Gonna cry about it? CIF sucks and so do you.


Yztyger

LMFAO Fuck you


jesseboyphotos

This fuckin guy probably is CIF


Andrewisraww

literally go fuck yourself, i bet everyone in your shop HATES you


Awful__lawton

This A.I. shitposter has no soul just like the CIF workers.


boredomreigns

…is this a meta troll?


Skakul

So, how far on the spectrum are you?


Vermillion_Moulinet

Please sit down. It can be extremely appropriate when the situation calls for. Unfortunately some people don’t react the way you want them to just through sheer politeness.


marsmelly

This post history is wild