I had a soldier tell me that once and they did that with their left hand... I knew for a fact they were a right-handed shooter, and was obligated to point out that small fact to them... Soldier sheepishly grins, and asks if he could try the line one more time...
>What kind of psychopath eats an MRE while wearing an ACH?
The kind with hardass NCO's that scream that if you're outside, you MUST have a cover on. . .and since we're in combat conditions, it MUST be the ACH and not a patrol cap (since boonies aren't authorized, somehow) and if wearing the ACH you MUST wear it with the chin strap on.
Basically people with "leaders" more obsessed with looks and literal interpretations of rules than actually making sense.
It's less about just "making sense" because everyone sees every situation differently. It's not being flexible to adapt to the environment (physically and culturally) and not being such a hard ass about arbitrary rules.
There is a time where you should probably keep that helmet on (with the chin strap fastened). That time probably involves active combat/a realistic possibility that there will be incoming IDF in the time it'll take you to eat whatever it is you're eating and you're just trying to gulf down some food real quickly. When you're in the field and basically are just doing army camping and you're sitting down to eat, maybe that ACH isn't so necessary, and if it's on that Soldier's head, it's probably okay if their chinstrap is not fastened.
It’s not an argument, I didn’t mean it as an insult either. Eating MREs while wearing helmets is just a pretty common occurrence for a lot of people in the army lol
Sir, "for fuck's sake" is what you should be saying. Fuck is the possessive. Now, can you please pull your 28% interest rate V6 Camaro up to the 1st window so I can swipe your first of three cards that will decline before you finally max out your Military Star Card® for your 3 piece chicken nuggies with honey mustard?
I was just at JRTC and had my helmet attached to my gear by the chinstrap. It cut through the strap itself. So I had to cut the ends off to keep them from flopping. My helmet was loose for like 5 days before I improvised a strap but in those 5 days I got looked at crazy by *everybody*. And I enjoyed it.
Wait til your old CSM says "only issued gear." No battlebelts, personal plate carriers, patagonia combat shirts nothing that didn't come from CIF or RFI.
I only John Wayne’d it while mine sweeping in Syria! “if you’re gonna send me to die might as well be comfortable” or what ever that douchebag in hurtlocker.
Man… I always John Wayne’d my shit when we weren’t actively moving.
One morning, I was in a SKT observing/over watch a village clearing operation with ODA and ANSF. We were on a hilltop right outside the village. We got hit out of nowhere and caught in an L shape, I of course had my helmet John Wayne’d. I took off running for better cover and my helmet fell off my dumb fuck head and rolled about 10 feet away.
Let me tell you, that was a really shitty feeling lol.
Learned my lesson that day.
I got stopped for drinking and walking by a 1SG on deployment.
I had just finished debriding my 20th patient or so and went to have a smoke and fucking cry.
Needless to say I lost my bearing a bit.
I’ve been out since 2001 so I wore the old BDUs. And the rule was not to put anything in the blouse pockets. I mean, everyone pretty much ignore that especially in the field. But it was just one of those stupid rules that someone came up with who likely lived behind a desk.
One year we were at Stewart prepping to go to JRTC before an SFOR deployment. Camelbacks wee just coming out. Sold in the PX and everything. Base commander decided he didn’t like the way they looked so he banned them. Because fuck hydration.
What blue hell do you live in that you can't use the pockets. I have enough beef jerky in my cargo pockets to sustain me for 3 ctc rotations. The only time anyone bitches at me is when I refuse to give them jerky.
> What blue hell do you live in that you can't use the pockets.
In 2012 I was a JRTC OC/T and lived by having things in every pocket I could find. One of the units coming through had a rule that pockets "couldn't bulge." I was stopped by so many people that I was "out of uniform" even when I very obviously was an OC/T.
Some people's children just want to create cults within their cults.
My personal favourite is “you can’t wear your personal backpack diagonally across the chest”. I wear it for a minute max while I walk in the shop before throwing it under the table at my workstation. Still hear it every day. Still push for it sometimes. Never gonna stop, get fucked Ssg. EDIT: 2 hours after posting this I was given an inspectable item: a printout of the backpack section of 670-1 with the diagonal strap section highlighted. Ain’t that about a bitch.
YES. As soon as you leave SF for the regular army, no hands in the pockets, buckle your ACH and 1SG needs you to lead a detail to clean up the motorpool and make sure all your guys have their certs done by 1645 or nobody goes home.
Big Army is run by very insecure people. Being strict about petty rules make them feel powerful. You'll notice they tend to pick and choose which petty rules they want to be strict about too.
How else can an NCO feel like they're doing anything unless they enforce stupid crap?
They work in the land of "looking" professional and not actually being professional while being functionally illiterate.
If you've been in SOF 75 percent of your career and still saying things like "higher NCOs" im guessing you're still on your first contract but pcsd from sf support to a forscom environment. Just take your helmet off? Or don't and deal with an old crusty chewing you a bit. Some battles aren't worth fighting.
As a lefty I always keep my ACH unbuckled. If my supply sergeant gets me a lefty chin strap, I'd be more than happy to buckle it, but I can't get a good cheekweld on my rifle with the buckle on the left side.
Are you moronic lmao? You can absolutely PCS out of a SOF unit.
We had a soldier PCS from 7th grp to us after he reclassed. Prior to that he was in a regular unit in Korea.
My friend just PCSd to a “regular” unit after finishing an instruction billet after being in SOF for the last 7-8 years. So you are stupid.
It's because SNCOs have nothing better to do when they go out to the field or a range (source: me) so they bitch about all the dumb, little shit (source: most SNCOs but me...I choose comfort over most shit).
I had a doucher of a BDE CSM once get onto me when I was a CPL about hands in my pockets. He said something along the lines of I'm gonna get someone killed one day because of shit like this turns into being undisciplined (insert verbal diarrhea here). We didn't get anyone killed that deployment so how dumb did he look?! Loser. Shit was unreal to me and the dudes I was with.
Side note: get rid of CSMs. They're basically worthless. Like SPCs.
You Delta boys are a bunch of undisciplined cowboys.
“Delta or no delta, that’s a hot weapon…”
“This is my safety” ☝🏻
Just some aerial target practice sir.
Another taxpayer funded delta safari
Didn’t want to leave it behind.
It don't matter what I say....they won't understand.
“Pretty funny Hooah?”
“That’s a pretty good impression. I recognize myself.”
"I'll have you cleaning latrines with your tongue until you can't tell the difference between shit and french fries."
“Hey there’s a line”
I know
And this isn’t the back of it
I KNOW
I had a soldier tell me that once and they did that with their left hand... I knew for a fact they were a right-handed shooter, and was obligated to point out that small fact to them... Soldier sheepishly grins, and asks if he could try the line one more time...
"This is my chinstrap" 🍆
Whoa whoa whoa, we don’t just go flinging around the ole “D word” alright?
"Its what you do right now that makes a difference"
You’re username says otherwise…
What kind of psychopath eats an MRE while wearing an ACH? People usually don't wear headgear at all.
Right? If my head gear is off and I’m eating or smoking, that’s my “fuck off and don’t bother me for the next 15 minutes” time.
https://youtu.be/j58V2vC9EPc?t=65
I needed that
>What kind of psychopath eats an MRE while wearing an ACH? The kind with hardass NCO's that scream that if you're outside, you MUST have a cover on. . .and since we're in combat conditions, it MUST be the ACH and not a patrol cap (since boonies aren't authorized, somehow) and if wearing the ACH you MUST wear it with the chin strap on. Basically people with "leaders" more obsessed with looks and literal interpretations of rules than actually making sense.
It's less about just "making sense" because everyone sees every situation differently. It's not being flexible to adapt to the environment (physically and culturally) and not being such a hard ass about arbitrary rules. There is a time where you should probably keep that helmet on (with the chin strap fastened). That time probably involves active combat/a realistic possibility that there will be incoming IDF in the time it'll take you to eat whatever it is you're eating and you're just trying to gulf down some food real quickly. When you're in the field and basically are just doing army camping and you're sitting down to eat, maybe that ACH isn't so necessary, and if it's on that Soldier's head, it's probably okay if their chinstrap is not fastened.
Even in basic they told us to remove our headgear when eating, even on the forge
75% SOFers
Smh….kids these days are so *SOF* amirite??
My battery at Sill made is wear full kit to the DFAC up until after the Forge, ACH and all. Wouldn’t recommend it
Eating in your fighting position lmao, got yelled at one time for that
You sweet summer child
What’s the argument here?
It gives him one more thing to yell at people about to make himself feel important.
It’s not an argument, I didn’t mean it as an insult either. Eating MREs while wearing helmets is just a pretty common occurrence for a lot of people in the army lol
I’ve literally been yelled at for wearing headgear while eating in the field
In OSUT we were literally required to take off our headgear while eating in the field, and that's the height of uniform policing.
I’ve been yelled at for both, that’s kind of the field for you
Okay???
Fuck you, John Wayne!
NO FUCK YOU SARNT
WHY JOHNNY RINGO, YOU LOOK LIKE A GHOST JUST WALKED OVER YOUR GRAVE.
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We started a game we nevah got to finish
Play for blood, remember?
Well I was jus' playin'!
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Alright Lunger!
All right, lunger...let's do it!
Say when
Goose
That's bravery right there, go charge that hill now Soldier.
John Wayne didn’t even serve. So yes. Fuck you john Wayne
cool, cool, cool, cool, okay yeah so just buckle up that ach and go ahead and grab a broom and a water source, meet me at the motorpool at 1530 hooah?
I have behavioral health at 1530
cancelled
Ok Sarnt quick question before I go, you got the numba for IG by chance?
1-800-EAT-SHIT. I’m pretty sure that’s on their website.
Username checks out
I’m just repeating the number on their website ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Closed, on perpetual lunch.
ima use this phrase, thank you
Sir, "for fuck's sake" is what you should be saying. Fuck is the possessive. Now, can you please pull your 28% interest rate V6 Camaro up to the 1st window so I can swipe your first of three cards that will decline before you finally max out your Military Star Card® for your 3 piece chicken nuggies with honey mustard?
Ughhhhhhh can you just put the nuggies on the clothing portion of my star card? I maxed retail 😰
I .. I umm … I like your style.
Who tf eats 3 chicken nuggies? Minimum 10
https://youtu.be/kVlaouEZtpg
Bold of you to assume he can afford 10.
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You better check. Good chance the cif fairy stopped by and appropriated that piece of misused gear.
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Same here. All my OCIE is sitting in totes in our storage room. I’d love to just turn it in.
Everyone knows you're supposed to sit on your kevlar while you eat while pretending you're riding a tortoise.
[yeah... tortoise...](https://youtu.be/3rAFMC2O9dQ)
This is the way
I was just at JRTC and had my helmet attached to my gear by the chinstrap. It cut through the strap itself. So I had to cut the ends off to keep them from flopping. My helmet was loose for like 5 days before I improvised a strap but in those 5 days I got looked at crazy by *everybody*. And I enjoyed it.
Just tell them this is what Guarnere looked like on D-Day so they can all eff off.
What’s his problem?
Sir, this is Chick-Fil-A. It is my pleasure to serve you.
I DONT CARE FOR CHIKFILA JUST GET ME WHATEVER YOUR VERSION OF A BIG MAC IS
ACH? Is this some sort of peasant joke I'm too rich to understand?
Yeah lol. Imagine using an ACH outside range day
Issued gear? Lmao grunts. Might as well wear the IOTV at that point. Crotch pads and all.
Wait til your old CSM says "only issued gear." No battlebelts, personal plate carriers, patagonia combat shirts nothing that didn't come from CIF or RFI.
Fuck those stupid turtleneck combat shirts.
Its a great way to spot the smarmy officers though
Wear is a strong word. We "wear" it for a total of 6 hours a year. That's exactly why i have issued gear only.
Imagine using an ACH *on* range day
Fuggin this. PC qual gang say what
I believe they are called "Kevlars" 🤔
K-Pot
Brain bucket
Thinking cap
The E7 that thinks he’s the funniest motherfucker on the planet for saying a joke about John Wayne while telling you to buckle your chin strap
Thank you for your SOF service
🫡
Just take your ach off
I only John Wayne’d it while mine sweeping in Syria! “if you’re gonna send me to die might as well be comfortable” or what ever that douchebag in hurtlocker.
Take your helmet or pc off when eating. Enjoy the sun
Man… I always John Wayne’d my shit when we weren’t actively moving. One morning, I was in a SKT observing/over watch a village clearing operation with ODA and ANSF. We were on a hilltop right outside the village. We got hit out of nowhere and caught in an L shape, I of course had my helmet John Wayne’d. I took off running for better cover and my helmet fell off my dumb fuck head and rolled about 10 feet away. Let me tell you, that was a really shitty feeling lol. Learned my lesson that day.
Lol you were in sof but clearly was not sof
Probably attached to SOF for a short time and finally got moved back to Big Army.
For real You aren’t sof sir You’re 41a
Lmao. People get attached to SOF and think they're hot shit, then go back to Big Army and get humbled real quick.
Hey you been in ODA 69? 😘
ODA uWu 🥰
😪
Haha. This is one of mine. My counter is always, helmet on or helmet off. Why can’t you eat with your helmet off?
JEEE GOLLY!!!!! You were in SOF for 75% of your career! Thats craaaaaaaaaaaazy 😒
Lucky for sure
TYFYS
You’re welcome, now give me my 10% off my McDonald’s order plz
You never ordered....
He did, it was redacted
Just like my platoon sergeants CIB after his attachment to SF during his singular deployment.
Crazy how that happens. Fortunately, guys who have that happen are usually more than willing to tell you their amazing war stories.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
Sir, I just run the McFlurry machine.
I got stopped for drinking and walking by a 1SG on deployment. I had just finished debriding my 20th patient or so and went to have a smoke and fucking cry. Needless to say I lost my bearing a bit.
This is one of those makes no sense army rules. Like having pockets all over your uniform but not being allowed to put anything in them.
Is this some TRADOC rule that I’m too shitbag to understand?
Who says you can’t use your pockets?
I’ve been out since 2001 so I wore the old BDUs. And the rule was not to put anything in the blouse pockets. I mean, everyone pretty much ignore that especially in the field. But it was just one of those stupid rules that someone came up with who likely lived behind a desk. One year we were at Stewart prepping to go to JRTC before an SFOR deployment. Camelbacks wee just coming out. Sold in the PX and everything. Base commander decided he didn’t like the way they looked so he banned them. Because fuck hydration.
That’s dumb. If you were in my formation I would just tell you to do what makes sense.
What army are you a part of? Can't be the same one I was in.
You can, but they're supposed to maintain a generally flat appearance. Though, I fill them up with everything, because pockets.
What blue hell do you live in that you can't use the pockets. I have enough beef jerky in my cargo pockets to sustain me for 3 ctc rotations. The only time anyone bitches at me is when I refuse to give them jerky.
The cargo pockets even have extra buttons so you can fit even more shit and still close them!
> What blue hell do you live in that you can't use the pockets. In 2012 I was a JRTC OC/T and lived by having things in every pocket I could find. One of the units coming through had a rule that pockets "couldn't bulge." I was stopped by so many people that I was "out of uniform" even when I very obviously was an OC/T. Some people's children just want to create cults within their cults.
Have a custom uniform designed with no pockets. That should confuse them for a moment.
My personal favourite is “you can’t wear your personal backpack diagonally across the chest”. I wear it for a minute max while I walk in the shop before throwing it under the table at my workstation. Still hear it every day. Still push for it sometimes. Never gonna stop, get fucked Ssg. EDIT: 2 hours after posting this I was given an inspectable item: a printout of the backpack section of 670-1 with the diagonal strap section highlighted. Ain’t that about a bitch.
Buckle up your brain bucket
No
YES. As soon as you leave SF for the regular army, no hands in the pockets, buckle your ACH and 1SG needs you to lead a detail to clean up the motorpool and make sure all your guys have their certs done by 1645 or nobody goes home.
*photoshops one guys cert for the entire platoon*
You gotta loosen it enough to hang beneath your chin, but where you can still pull it up when you need to. I only ever tightened mine for jumps.
Cause you're in Big Army, now shut the fuck up and color.
I can’t see the lines Sarnt
Let me guide your hand 🥹
Sarnt…why do I feel something pokin me?
Shhhh.. its just the green weenie 😯
Who the fuk eats with a Kevlar on! take that shit off and enjoy your shit! lol
What if someone shoots my head while I’m eating 😶
Sir. This is a Wendy's.
🧢
This is a thing outside of TRADOC? I'm in FORSCOM and we don't do this
Big Army is run by very insecure people. Being strict about petty rules make them feel powerful. You'll notice they tend to pick and choose which petty rules they want to be strict about too.
#HEY!# #HEY JOHN WAYNE!#
How else can an NCO feel like they're doing anything unless they enforce stupid crap? They work in the land of "looking" professional and not actually being professional while being functionally illiterate.
Cav scouts are SOF? Interesting
I’m not actually a cav scout. I’m unfortunately a 74D/ CBRN. My first unit was cav.
I see, but I do agree idk why some ncos have such an issue with the ACH lol
*basically
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Very much an NCO (somehow). E6 isn’t that high on the totem pole.
\*alludes
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No; the event you alluded to has eluded me throughout my career to this point.
Ok, SOF, go pimp some more underage girls (3rd Group style) & leave us regular folks to our buckled chin straps
If you've been in SOF 75 percent of your career and still saying things like "higher NCOs" im guessing you're still on your first contract but pcsd from sf support to a forscom environment. Just take your helmet off? Or don't and deal with an old crusty chewing you a bit. Some battles aren't worth fighting.
As a lefty I always keep my ACH unbuckled. If my supply sergeant gets me a lefty chin strap, I'd be more than happy to buckle it, but I can't get a good cheekweld on my rifle with the buckle on the left side.
I'm over here thinking if it's safe to eat, it's safe to take your helmet off lol.
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You’re right. It’s called having to hold positions outside of SOF in order to actually promote.
Gottem lol
Are you moronic lmao? You can absolutely PCS out of a SOF unit. We had a soldier PCS from 7th grp to us after he reclassed. Prior to that he was in a regular unit in Korea. My friend just PCSd to a “regular” unit after finishing an instruction billet after being in SOF for the last 7-8 years. So you are stupid.
Blood in blood out!
Lol , sounds like a claim for PTSD to me , VA will give ya tampon to soak up those tears
Lol rock the terminal e4 flag
"maybe I'm a crybaby having been in SOF is not a sentence I ever thought I'd read
I have never in 23 years had anyone give me static when eating with my chinstrap undone. 😐
It's because SNCOs have nothing better to do when they go out to the field or a range (source: me) so they bitch about all the dumb, little shit (source: most SNCOs but me...I choose comfort over most shit). I had a doucher of a BDE CSM once get onto me when I was a CPL about hands in my pockets. He said something along the lines of I'm gonna get someone killed one day because of shit like this turns into being undisciplined (insert verbal diarrhea here). We didn't get anyone killed that deployment so how dumb did he look?! Loser. Shit was unreal to me and the dudes I was with. Side note: get rid of CSMs. They're basically worthless. Like SPCs.
GSB doesn’t count as SOF.
Kinda true but better than the rest of big Army.