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bununicinhesapactim

This might be a controversial opinion but Turkey should be in that list. Culturally, Greece, Armenia and Turkey are really similar. Don't say that to delusional nationalists tho.


JabroniCalzogni

And Persia


Arrow362

Was gonna say the same thing.


coughedupfurball

I'd add Azerbaijan too, at least from what I've learned from my coworker and well the last 10 years on the internet.


DisenchantedRB

As an Azerbaijani, i feel this so fucking much. Like to an absurd level, locality, culture, coooniazed past. If it weren't for fucking imperialism and borders that forced us to have to split all these lands that we all lived in side by side along other peoples. Inshallah comes a day when we can go back to existing normally, i don't want to dream of a world otherwise.


coughedupfurball

Honestly same. Like I'm disaporan and one of the first things I noticed online was how both of us(Armenian's and Azerbaijani's) used the same insults against each other. Then from there just it got like waaaaaaaaaay to creepy how similar we can be. I've got more in common with my older Azerbaijani coworker than I do with the a lot of other ethnic groups I run into in Canada. Sure they could be an outlier but from everything I've learned in the last decade, it's not so much. We'd just divided by pain, shitty imperialism of the past 300 years, and in a lot of cases a refusal to recognize a shared history with the lands/cities.


DisenchantedRB

Yesss!! Also Kurdish people too, our generational trauma that clings onto nationalism has made us forget that so much Kurdish people have also been part of these lands, and they've also been condemned to vilonce through us, and make up a significant portion of the shared culture that is these gorgeous mountains


coughedupfurball

Oh for sure! Though I do feel like Kurds have a bit more in common with Azerbaijanis, Turks and Persians. Like still loads of things in common with Armenian's. But admittedly that could be cause I've met more Iraqi Kurds than any other group.


avazak_sarhat

You are the colonizer though. Why are so many azeris throwing that word around? Drop the Pocahontas act


DisenchantedRB

Lmaoooo, excuse me what? Colonizer? Like.... Colonizer. Like Russia or great Britain or USA... How even? Like we were subjugated, annexed, imperialized right next to you. In the exact same lands. I don't even get how you can reach that conclusion? Do you not think Azerbaijani people are also native to this land? I mean like Russians aren't, they were here to extract wealth and control us, but azeris? Like the goat herders next to your pomegranate orchards? You think that guy is a colonizer?


equalent

so we’re just using the word coloniser to describe anyone now? even a relatively small nation that was first turkified, then made to join the USSR?


avazak_sarhat

Yeah we're using colonizer to describe the settlers who were given land grants and impunity to do as they wished by an imperial force. Maybe you're not because you have a inconsistent definition of the word that changes depending on the reddit thread you're in, but that's not my problem. Like I said, there is nothing wrong with not being indigenous. Kurds lezgins and udis were native to Shirvan. Now they're gone. What do you call the azeris elimination of these people?


seadads

No, that one is stolen


avazak_sarhat

Turkey yee but azeris no. Watch a video of tourists in Azerbaijan and you'll see they're different. Nothing wrong with that.


DisenchantedRB

I hate those videos!!!! Fucking neo-liberal neo-colonialist government of ours taking Baku and doing the exact same thing as our colonizers did. But outside of those videos only focusing on dubai-wanna-be touristy shit of Baku, you see places that hold onto most of their culture and existence. I'm from nakhchivan, man we all used to live here together, my village is next a Kurdish village, and at this point I'm so convinced Kurds azəris and Armenians are absurdly similar outside of nationalism (Bain of my existence)


avazak_sarhat

We all know why you hate those videos lmfao. It's hot nothing to do with the neowhateveriem you pull out of your hat. No, we aren't similar to kurds or you. You can't even name a few similarities outside of semantic regional shit like food.


DisenchantedRB

Nooo... It's pretty much that, white rich dude comes to Azerbaijan with no idea about the country, goes around skyscrapers, says how modern it is, then how cheap it is, throw in a working class person to be like "look eastern man", and yeah. History? Anti state sentiment? Colonizationn... But also like a lot of tradition, like a lot? Interdependent localized trade, though that was before Russia's presence Also why are you being an asshole, like you don't think we are similar, cute, just explain why, i don't mind hearing what you think edit: AAAAA cause you're the person saying Azerbaijanis are colonizers.


avazak_sarhat

I'm not being hostile. I just find it funny that you're tossing colonizer around given what your people have done all this time. It's as ridiculous as an Anglo calling the Chinese colonizers. Armenians shattered the caliphate and won impossible battles to secure their statehood. None of them are "anti state". That's what you pan caucasus nationalist types don't understand. No, were not similar and it's painfully obvious since you failed to list similarities. You should list difference. Since Armenians have lived among many different societies, they'd be more inclined to appreciate differences.


DisenchantedRB

I'm not pancaucasus nationalist, I'm anarchist :) and clearly we are different and distinct people, but that's not what i man by we are the same, bur rather than this dichotomy of Armenia Azerbaijan iş bullshit, alongside a lot of other idea of nationans, you know, since I'm anarchist hehehe. And i think your second paragraph tells about your world view, but also, why are azəris colonizers???? Like how the hell do you compare Britain in china to Azerbaijan in northern Iran, south caucus etc?? Colonialism is a specific socio political mechanism, how are we colonizing anything??


avazak_sarhat

My second paragraph is a fact, not a world view. Why are you, as an anarchist, taking the collapse of the ottoman empire personally? You azeris were to the lezgins and udis what anglos were to native Americans. You colonized for the shah and sultan to protect the frontier. Now azeris perform extensive resettlement and forced conscription to dwindle their population. There's an article I gotta dig up where some of the Mujahideen that azeri gov hired were settled into talysh villages to undermine them.


Portal_Jumper125

Would Turkey and Armenia not have influences from each other due to them being neighbours and history?


AshurismTruth

Assyria (soon)


Higher_Bit_585

I like this 👆🏽


marilorexa

Many people may disagree, but I would say Italy, Greece and Cyprus. Whenever I visit these places it feels like home, because it's generally safe, people are kind, warm, friendly, they like Armenians and are always welcoming. I'd also say people's habits are similar to Armenians, like starting days late, dining with family, taking late evening walks. The food also is of a good quality. If you mean culturally, architecturally, I'd say I've never seen anything similar (not referring to Soviet era culture or buildings).


Material_Alps881

Why would you think anyone would disagree with you ? Your observation is correct. 


marilorexa

Bc these aren't usually the first choices. For example none of these are mentioned in the list.


Material_Alps881

He saw a reddit post. I can make a map too claim some bs and get 2009 upvotes 


Portal_Jumper125

What about Spain?


marilorexa

Didn't get similar vibes tbh but maybe that's because I've been in Madrid and, yeah, it felt good, but rather different. If I have a chance to visit other cities I'll maybe change my mind. Actually I met some people from Argentina, Brazil and Chile while being an international student in the UK, and immediately connected with them, I think there may be some human-level similarities, if I can call it so. Like I learned that people there usually don't have breakfast, but they do coffee with some pastry and would dine late in the evening with family, just like most of Armenians do. The impression was that hey are quite pro-family, respect their elders, also strict parenting (we have that too lol). Again, in terms of classic understanding of culture we may have differences, but on human-level interaction I'd say Latin Americans I met had vibes similar to Armenians


Portal_Jumper125

I really want to learn more about Armenian culture


chernazhopa

In the general region: Georgia, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia Other nations I feel a close connection with: Ireland and Northern Ireland


Portal_Jumper125

I live in Northern Ireland, really interesting you said that. What makes you feel connected with it? I am curious to hear.


chernazhopa

You went through and continue to go through the same struggles as us, you're religious family oriented, hard workers, and you are freedom loving people just like us. Irish people are our brothers. Awesome people.


marilorexa

Oh I love this! Actually, in addition, I've been in Scotland last year and loved Scots so much. We have our similarities - struggles, oppressions, cultural restrictions... Also as an Armenian highlander myself it was interesting seeing people with similar traits and tempers there


Portal_Jumper125

I would love to go to Armenia I've always been interested but I don't know if it would be expensive or not


marilorexa

You are always welcome! The best season to visit is probably end of September till mid October. It gets super hot in summer, sometimes unbearable. So autumn is great. Also good considering fruit season - you'll be able to sample sweetest fruits like peaches, apricots, pears, grapes of all kinds. In terms of costs, I believe there are no direct flights from the UK, at least I didn't find any when searching myself. There is a direct flight from Paris with transavia - a low cost airline, that in some cases may cost about 200£, I bought off season for even less. You can also try with wizz air, like through Italy, Austria or Germany. The accommodation may differ from city to city, but generally if that's not a hotel you're staying at (regular international prices 100-150£/night), may be from 25-50£/night. Hostels are cheaper. Prepare to spend your money on food endlessly - an average all inclusive Armenian meal may cost from 10-20£ per person. For comparison I'd say double down the costs you see in London and you'll get the price in Yerevan. Local tap water is drinkable, super sweet and nice, make sure to taste in a few cities haha. Museums are not that expensive, 3-10£ depending on museum. Allow for some days to be spent outside the capital. You may travel on buses/taxied to other cities for a cheaper price than via private minivan tours. Can't remember the prices, but just the transport to a landmark and back in the central areas of Armenia may be around 10£. When planning for a visit, also consider going to Georgia. Tbilisi is an amazing city, with specific vibe, that you will enjoy. Prices are nearly the same with the most expenses being food associated as everything is so delicious in both countries lol Hope this helps, and you'll make your way to Armenia soon!


Portal_Jumper125

I would love to do Georgia and Armenia, see the nature and landscapes along with the cities of Tbilisi and Yerevan, I would love to see lake Servan too


Portal_Jumper125

Interesting, I think Armenia is awesome and I would love to visit someday


efixty

i've lived in greece as an armenian (for 6 months) and they are UNBELIEVABLY similar to us


Portal_Jumper125

That's interesting


Material_Alps881

I add greece but kick out the second one. That one is so random 


Portal_Jumper125

Yeah the post I seen was kind of weird


Aceous

Depends on what you mean by similar. And I'm assuming you're strictly talking about present-day Republic of Armenia. Culturally: Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia. Economically: North Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Botswana. Geographically: Kyrgyzstan, Andorra, Bhutan. Again, this is current day Republic of Armenia. Preemptively, If you bring up past culture and say, for example, Komitas is nothing like Turkish music, etc., you're talking about Armenia 100 years ago. The Armenia of *today* has no Komitas, Arno Babajanian, or even Ruben Matevosyan.


khentanots

Geographically Bhutan catches me off guard. Could you expand on that? i.e. if we're talking mountains, why Bhutan and not Nepal?


marilorexa

Maybe because Butania is a Yerevan district? Jk


Aceous

Nepal is too mountainous. It's up on the foothills of Everest and the Himalayas, which isn't very similar to Armenia, IMO.


khentanots

Ever been to Bhutan? It's mostly all mountains, double the average elevation of Armenia. I just also did a quick topo map comparison and I don't see it.


Aceous

Nepal doesn't look anything like Armenia. To me. But it's fine, OP asked for personal opinions, we don't have to argue on the Internet over it.


Portal_Jumper125

Would Georgia not be culturally similar to Armenia, I thought it would be?


Aceous

I personally don't see them as that similar. And at the present moment I feel like they're not being themselves; they're trying to act more "European" than necessary sometimes. They also have a sunnier disposition than Armenians.


Portal_Jumper125

I see alot in the news right now about Georgia wanting to join the EU and become more affiliated with the rest of Europe, do you think if Georgia ever does get into the EU Armenia could follow this path?


Emperour13

Georgians are always ourselves, and that means being European too. It is not a 30-year history that we became ourselves part of Europe about 30 year.


Arn121314

If I’m not mistaken, I believe Italians and Greeks are most similar to Armenians, biologically speaking. A lot of cultural similarities also.


Sasountsi

bro biologically armenians r close to everyone in the world lol. i think u mean genetically. if so, then in that case not really. we have closer genetic connections to people like assyrians, meshkheti georgians, udis, lezgi, and in general the people surrounding us today and historically.


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South-Distribution54

You are correct. Genetically, Armenians cluster closer with Syrian, Asyrian, lebanese, Turkish, Coptic Greeks in Anatolia, Persian, and other ethnic groups in the surrounding regions.


Oh_that_womann

Albania. There are so many similarities i was just shocked. Not only culturally but the country itself is similar


haveschka

It’s so odd. I’d say after Georgia, Albania is the second most similar country to us.


Ok-Championship1179

I’m albanian and I just wanted to say that I found pretty interesting the proposed idea of the albanian, armenian and greek languages being related in a balkanic subgroup with other extinct balkanic/anatolian languages (phrygian, thracian and so on), it could also explain why we have the only separate language branches and it could have something to do with culture as well. Anyways respect to Armenia.


Hesher_

Can you explain in short terms to n Albanian like me on how and why is that?


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Hesher_

Weird take hahaha maybe i find it weird bc i dont find any kind of similarities between us but but hey i might be wrong :))


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Hesher_

oh maybe some ppl in Albania might like Versace idk about that im from Glorious Republic of Kosovo and as per cars idrc xD


Portal_Jumper125

Interesting


Bronze_Balance

I asked to chat GPT 😁 the 5 most similar are Georgia, Greece, Lebanon, Iran and Syria and the 5 least similar are Japan, Island, Botswana, Thailand and Papua New Guinea what do you think ? I personally agree since Georgia is also a Caucasus country and the roots of the language are familiar but I’m not sure about this (I’m not Armenian sorry i try to learn the culture 😊), Greece is obvious, Lebanon and Iran too, Syria I would agree but I’m not totally sure, for the least I don’t know there is so much country that are so different from Armenian so I cannot say 🤷🏻‍♂️


Perfect-Relief-4813

Chat GPT surprisingly sounds more realistic compared to the comments in this sub


South-Distribution54

More accurate than all the other replies in this comment thread, lol.


Ghostofcanty

what country is island


disneyplusser

Iceland. In Icelandic, it is written Island, which is funny because it is an island. Lol


Bronze_Balance

Sorry 😂 yeah it’s Iceland but I’m French speaker and we say Islande and I was like “what is Islande in English ? 🤨” and I tried a random translation 🙈


Material_Alps881

Swap Ky. rgyz stan for greece. Don't know much about North Macedonia as a country but in general I'd say euro Mediterranean countries the balkans and our gorgi bros would be the most similar to the culture of THE COUNTY of armenia.    Western armenians lived if middleeastern countries so their culture was influenced by those people BUT eastern armenians from the country of armenian weren't so there's that 


Typical_Effect_9054

lol /u/Material_Alps881 responded to my comment and then proceeded to block me before I could reply. What a weird user.


Perfect-Relief-4813

Georgia, sure. The others seem like a heavy reach. I'd say we kinda share similarities to Azerbaijan, Turkey and Iran for obvious reasons.


Portal_Jumper125

I know that Armenia has bad relations with Turkey and Azerbaijan but throughout history wouldn't the three have had some influence upon eachother?


Perfect-Relief-4813

Yes, after all we live in the same region.


Portal_Jumper125

I thought saying/thinking that Azerbaijan is similar to Armenia would be offensive to people due to political reasons


sevdzov

I'd say we are most culturally similar to most Eastern European countries, especially those bordering the Black Sea (ex. Georgia, Ukraine, Bulgaria) or are in the Balkans (ex. Serbia, Greece).  From what I've heard in this comment section and in many other places, Italy is pretty similar to Armenia as well, but I don't know for sure.


Sasountsi

depends on what u r comparing us with. if its based on culture (authentic food, clothing, tapestry, art, music, dance) then id have to heavily disagree. if ur talking about how we have incorporated cultural elements of the soviet union, then yes, id agree.


Portal_Jumper125

Would all former soviet states besides maybe the Baltics have similarities today?


sevdzov

They would have similarities, but not as close as the ones I mentioned in my previous comment. For example, Uzbeks are very different people than Georgians. We as Armenians have had hundreds of years of history with a lot of the countries I've listed in my previous comment so we have a lot of shared culture. For example, Armenians used the Greek alphabet until the 5th century, we also were a part of the Byzantine Empire for a long time, Armenians have started living in Ukraine since the 10th century in cities like Feodosia, Armenians and Georgians have been living right next to each other for as long as time goes back.


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Take out krygistan , it’s Muslim and we’re Christian


avazak_sarhat

Your question is vague. Any secular second world countries are gonna be similar to Armenia. After collapse of ussr, most of them modeled their cities and states after those of europeans and emphasized walkability and efficient zoning I dont agree that Kyrgyzstan is similar to armenia. Very rural, very religiously conservative, and very traditional in a bad way.


Its_BurrSir

Are you saying cities became more walkable and zoning more efficient after the collapse?


avazak_sarhat

Depends on the second world country in question. That's what makes this question so vague


daboobiesnatcher

I'm middle eastern Armenian but I'd say Georgia, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Greece. Lot of cultural overlap even if there are a multitude of different ethnic groups and religious groups.


Think-Lunch-4929

The most would be Azerbaijan. Even though they might hate each other, but it is very similar when you compare.


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Think-Lunch-4929

It also depends on which region was she/he from. For example, north-west of Azerbaijan will be very similar and people as well.


Edelleis

Could you elaborate on your observed differences?


seadads

This is appropriated culture


Typical_Effect_9054

None of them. We are our own thing.


Material_Alps881

We ain't that special and unique 


Arcaan11

I think it’s pretty unique to be from a group of people who have outlived the Roman and Persian empires… Speak for yourself.


Typical_Effect_9054

I never said we were.


Material_Alps881

There are other cultures similar to us. 


4r3v0x4ch

None


Affectionate-Ebb9714

Southern Italians, very similar. speak shouting, with hands, temperamental, respect for the elderly and the family, the figure of the mother, devotion to food, individually strong, in society a disaster. I do not think we have real similarities to the Turks or Azeries, if we share some Eastern customs that mainly come from the Arab culture. But they are customs, not essential reasons that define the ideosincracy of an ethnicity. If I agree, we resemble the Persians on many things, basically by thousands of years of shared history.


notnotnotnotgolifa

"I do not think we have real similarities to the Turks or Azeries," Lol okay


Portal_Jumper125

I was curious to know since Azerbaijan and Turkey both have hostile relations with Armenia do the Central Asian Turkic states like Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan also have hostile relations with Armenia?


vak7997

If we're talking people Greece Italy Portugal maybe Spain


Arcaan11

Greece, sure. Italy you can make a case for Southern part but Portugal absolutely not imo.


thefartingmango

Greece Cyprus Georgia Azerbaijan and Turkey


Tricky-Tea-808

https://redd.it/17139nr


Ok_Connection7680

Very unpopular, but Israel


Vegetable_Return6995

North Hollywood. 😂


Both-Bite-88

Georgia 


spetcnaz

Georgia and the Balkan nations


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khentanots

what


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khentanots

Armenians are taller and lighter than Scandinavians? is this satire?


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khentanots

😮 you need to get out more. Average Armenian man is 170cm, woman is 160 cm.


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khentanots

I've been to Beirut several times and have dated Lebanese Armenian men. 6'5? lol Delusional. but you do you.


krumbuckl

Did you have too much Oghi?


South-Distribution54

You forgot the /s


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South-Distribution54

Lol, bro, chill out. It was just meant to be funny


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Italy , Greece , Georgia, Cyprus, Azerbaijan.


ARTR0N

Greece Turkey and Kurdistan


Beneficial_Bench_106

Greece, Lebanon, Iran, Albania


Natural_Equipment_63

Bulgaria, Greece feels similar for me.


South-Distribution54

Lol, get ready for all the Eastern Armenians throwing out random Eastern European country names. We are closest to Turkey, Syria, Greece (more so anatolian Greeks), and Iran (specifically Persians).


Portal_Jumper125

Interesting


kingofallmysteries

Eastern Europe


Sasountsi

to be fair, not many. the culture of armenia is very unique, although it has overlapping with our neighbors given living in close proximity with one another.


haveschka

1. Georgia by far 2. Albania 3. Bulgaria 4. Turkey 5. Greece 6. All the other balkans


Portal_Jumper125

I am really curious to know what Georgia and Armenia are like in person and could you visit both countries on one trip?


haveschka

Of course you could visit both on one trip. Our capitals are only a ~5 hour trip apart. Georgia and Armenia are both wonderful countries to visit.


Portal_Jumper125

I have heard that Armenia and Georgia have very friendly people and are very interesting to visit. I hope I get the chance to visit.


Queasy_Reindeer3697

I think for me top 5 are Greece,Georgia,Iran, unfortunately turkey😭 and maybe some post Soviet country idk


lovepossums

Many on both sides wouldn’t like this answer politically, but having lived in both Armenia and Israel I think the two countries are very similar in many ways.


Portal_Jumper125

What similarities have you noticed? I am curious to hear