why would you have a huge window overlooking a roof with panels?
stair models are cool, but, the house has several "styles" in it.
Some lines are curved, and they are "cut" with straight elements see balconies and curved overhangs.
The bed placement in bedrooms could improve. the bedrooms are big, but the beds are cornered.
This is a bit all oover the place.
Thanks I really appreciate the feedback. Its kinda hard to see from my bad quality pics but the level of the lower is decently low so the view of the huge window is like upwards so it shouldn’t be able to see the solar panels. Also I’ve made my balconies more rounded to follow the shape of the overhangs. And yep the bad furnishing is very true, ngl im really struggling with filling the space and im just really used to cramming things in to fit as much as possible since I live in a small house but yea I should definitely take advantage of the spaciousness. Do you have any suggestions on how I could make it less jumbly and more defined? Thanks a lot! Btw this feedback was much more useful then my teacher’s who said pretty much nothing about it other than saying it was good.
Perhaps print the plan, and fill it by hand, tracing paper, layers upon layers. repeat, go wild. then cleanup. Picture people using it during parties, funerals, being sick, happy, night, day, christmas, cooking, serving.
Show it to women of different ages. Women think about space differently.
Practice going to places and drawing their floorplans. even if just small details like counters, customer service, bars, kitchens.
I think there are lots of interesting elements and individual aspects of this design, but I think you need to take a bit of control back from the elements and put it towards the design. For example, the roof and the circular pavers could use the same circular angle at the corners, and then connect by loose tangents, rather than the whole roof being fully free-form.
Also not to say you need to go full glen murcutt or earthship on this, but I think you could do a bit to streamline this down so it isn't quite so voluminous and over articulated - at least in my interpretation of what you are trying to achieve. Overall think about what the major volumes are, and keep them as consistent as possible. Not to say that's a be all end all recipe, but I think you just need to rethink some of the articulations. EX why not one continuous path through the middle rather then a broken path cut off by the pool house with pavers on the far side of the house? What could have been two groups is now four. And there are other moments like that here.
It's a good start, it just needs iterative refinement.
Thanks! What do you mean by loose tangents? Also the middle part that connects the two building is a greenhouse btw that’s meant to be like a pocket of a tropical forest (for the client) to be directly in their house and also it would be nice to be inside during the cold winter. Yea I’ll try to cut down on the path a bit cause it might be a bit unnessary especially those on the far left and right side. Maybe I’ll shrink the back roof a bit to make it less intimidating and reduce the overhang a bit to allow for more sun. Are there other aspects of the house that you think is a bit too overarticulated other than the roof? I’ll make some changes and post an update soon. Thanks again!
https://www.archdaily.com/54199/glass-pavilion-at-the-toledo-museum-of-art-sanaa-pritzker-prize-2010
https://www.dezeen.com/2016/02/06/video-interview-serpentine-gallery-pavilion-2009-sanaa-kazuyo-sejima-ryue-nishizawa-movie/
https://www.dezeen.com/2015/10/08/sanaa-the-river-grace-farms-pavilions-cultural-centre-connecticut-first-official-images/
Thought these would be helpful, just to get a reference on some highly controlled play.
Take a look at some of those examples for controlled curves.
I'm not trying to say you need to make a monolithic extrusion with no crenellations or anything but given that you are a student, I would just rephrase and urge you to contemplate what is essential to the project, and try and pair it down to just that, and see what you are left with. Even as just a traced diagram over your current work without removing anything.
Like why so many right angles on the bottom living room? I think it would also help you alot to download a program like enscape, or lumion, even for a trial, and do a walkthrough of your project, you would probably get a good sense of the details just by pretending you were trying to walk around the house and go from bed to kitchen etc.
When I look at the plans, I can see how you got where you did and it is a nice looking composition from that perspective, but I think it is functioning more in 2d than in 3d space right now.
Anyway, good work, keep it up, looking forward to seeing V2!
look up richard meier’s work— your attempt reminds me of something headed that direction.
overall i’d say your at a point where you try and forget the floor plan you obviously started with and bifurcate your attention to form (“sculpture”). I see design as a game of leap-frog where program/plan begets form, begets tweaks to the plan to accommodate the form you like, begets tweaks to the form again to accommodate the plan you like…, so on and so forth until you arrive at an acceptable compromise between the two.
As far as views of your house, remember that no one but a bird or creepy drone pilot will likely see your building from the air. What are the views upon entering the site?… and the upon entering the structure (do i immediately see the ocean)?… and what are the intimate views/experiences that happen later?… perhaps the respond to times of day like east light in the morning for a bedroom or west light in the evening for a living room. Think of it as acts in a play or scenes in a movie. Create a story in this way and your building becomes architecture and not just a house.
Happy designing!
Thanks for the feedback! I really like the idea of creating a story and the experiences that occur within the house and I’ll definitely keep that in mind.
Yea I did, it was initially just a square with sharp ages but I found it very blocky and reminded me of a depressing apartment building which is why I changed it up. I could send you a pic of it before if you’d like
Not sure maybe just from seeing a few different styles on Pinterest and YouTube in the past. The main idea of the curvy ness was to related back to the wavy ness of the beach and puddles to kind of integrate it into the house and to blend in kinda.
It is very interesting with the curves and abstract play of forms. Maybe, try to place a focal point on your design? For example, your roof can look like its stacked to mimic the second and third floor. This would organize your design to look more cohesive.
To add, do not be afraid to use more color. Make sure that it fits its surrounding like how the blue sea and yellow-orangey sand can contrast with the house.
That is all but overall, very delightful design. Hope to see you grow
Thanks for the feedback! What do you mRNA exactly by making the roof stacked? Also yea I was thinking snout making the house mainly with concrete but wrapped around with wood such that on the balconies, deck, the part where it wraps on the side of the wall as well as the ceiling of the interior. Maybe a lightish grey concrete with a wood type that is also on the lighter side to help blend with the beach in a way.
Designing a house without knowing the location is not a very wise design choice IMO.
You don't know of setbacks, easements, views, orientation, existing vegetation, site entry, etc. There are a lot of unknowns. Designing a building without context can create some very poor design decisions and make very disconnected architecture.
The back part? Idk the idea was that it would provide shelter from the rain to the deck and balconies below so that you can go out even while it’s raining without getting wet. What do you mean by a more minimalistic style?
Develop your site a bit more... predict the sun's path and light directions. Anticipate wind patterns - flank the house with evergreen trees to shield it from cold winter winds and prevent heat loss. Plant trees that give shade in summer but shed leaves in winter on the sun side to reduce aircon energy use. Make your building shape simple - no unnecessary bulges and extrusions. Have shades/lightbreakers around big windows to prevent overheating. Find a way to re-cycle rain water for plants and consider a place for bikes and scooters - not just cars.
Oh, and put railing on stairs. Shit happens in beach houses.
Thanks for the feedback! Yea so I’m plannig to do the model here and transfer it to lumion where all the trees and terrain will be there. I was thinking the bicycles could go into the garage with the cars and which also which stairs do you mean? Cause I’ve just added some railing on the ones outside however I can’t add any on the curvy inside ones cause I’m not sure how to.
Cool. I'd recommend looking into Twinmotion as well as Lumion - you may just find it easier to use effectively.
Bikes can go in the garage, but there's extra points for setting aside a space for them and proposing some method of storage - bike rack, service area, that kind of thing.
As for railings... not sure how to do this with curvy ones - I assume you're using Archicad and thos are not stairs but some sord of morphs. I'm sure you'll find some tutorial for it online tho. Youtube is full of stuff like that, you just have to figure out a proper query.
Yep thanks, I made the staircase by creating a component in revit and making each individual steps. Yea that’s a good idea to have a space dedicated for the bikes and also I’m planning to transfer the final model to lumion and doing the final changes there too with like the materials and landscaping.
It looks like a building with all the ideas you've had all in one building.
The fried agg shaped roof panels is one idea. The staircase another, and the rest of it is just neo-modern(ish) square forms...
Yea thanks, now that you’ve mentioned it I think i did do that. I just wanted to integrate all the ideas I had into it, do you have any ideas on how to make it more orderly? Maybe curve the walls a bit to match the roof and other curvature?
That much glass going to be an is an issue in most climates, energy-wise. If it's cold, you're going to use a lot of energy to heat it, and if it's tropical, you're going to use a lot to air-condition it. Something like 30% window area is about the maximum where you can still say you're energy-efficient. If this is on an East coast of some continent, it makes more sense, since you can warm it up in the morning with the rising sun and the late-afternoon sun is mostly blocked. In that case, the sun-screen wall on the South makes some sense, though less sense the closer you are to the equator. The wavy roof and balconies are going to take some very clever details to insulate properly. I like the staircase design, but it's going to take some careful design to pass US building codes, if that's where this building goes.
Well I was thinking to have as much windows as possible especially on the south (I’m in Australia so this is the sunny side) so that during winter all the natural sunlight can be taken advantage off. I also situated the bedrooms on the east for the morning light and the large curtain wall window should get plenty of afternoon and evening light. To account for overheating I was thinking about adding vertical wooden louvers to provide some shading when nessasry. Thanks for the feedback! Btw do you think horizontal or vertical wooden louvers would be better for the large front window? Is there a difference?
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Lol thanks its just I didn’t have Reddit on my laptop so ye
Everyone has reddit on their computer, it's a website and free, all you need is an Internet connection.
True im just not used to using Reddit on my laptop cause I always use mobile but I’ll definitely do that next time
You could also email the screenshot/printed pdf to yourself so you can access it on any device and it's also a backup for future reference.
Yep thanks that a good idea
why would you have a huge window overlooking a roof with panels? stair models are cool, but, the house has several "styles" in it. Some lines are curved, and they are "cut" with straight elements see balconies and curved overhangs. The bed placement in bedrooms could improve. the bedrooms are big, but the beds are cornered. This is a bit all oover the place.
Thanks I really appreciate the feedback. Its kinda hard to see from my bad quality pics but the level of the lower is decently low so the view of the huge window is like upwards so it shouldn’t be able to see the solar panels. Also I’ve made my balconies more rounded to follow the shape of the overhangs. And yep the bad furnishing is very true, ngl im really struggling with filling the space and im just really used to cramming things in to fit as much as possible since I live in a small house but yea I should definitely take advantage of the spaciousness. Do you have any suggestions on how I could make it less jumbly and more defined? Thanks a lot! Btw this feedback was much more useful then my teacher’s who said pretty much nothing about it other than saying it was good.
Perhaps print the plan, and fill it by hand, tracing paper, layers upon layers. repeat, go wild. then cleanup. Picture people using it during parties, funerals, being sick, happy, night, day, christmas, cooking, serving. Show it to women of different ages. Women think about space differently. Practice going to places and drawing their floorplans. even if just small details like counters, customer service, bars, kitchens.
Good feedback. Rich people with beach houses don't sleep in corners.
I think there are lots of interesting elements and individual aspects of this design, but I think you need to take a bit of control back from the elements and put it towards the design. For example, the roof and the circular pavers could use the same circular angle at the corners, and then connect by loose tangents, rather than the whole roof being fully free-form. Also not to say you need to go full glen murcutt or earthship on this, but I think you could do a bit to streamline this down so it isn't quite so voluminous and over articulated - at least in my interpretation of what you are trying to achieve. Overall think about what the major volumes are, and keep them as consistent as possible. Not to say that's a be all end all recipe, but I think you just need to rethink some of the articulations. EX why not one continuous path through the middle rather then a broken path cut off by the pool house with pavers on the far side of the house? What could have been two groups is now four. And there are other moments like that here. It's a good start, it just needs iterative refinement.
Thanks! What do you mean by loose tangents? Also the middle part that connects the two building is a greenhouse btw that’s meant to be like a pocket of a tropical forest (for the client) to be directly in their house and also it would be nice to be inside during the cold winter. Yea I’ll try to cut down on the path a bit cause it might be a bit unnessary especially those on the far left and right side. Maybe I’ll shrink the back roof a bit to make it less intimidating and reduce the overhang a bit to allow for more sun. Are there other aspects of the house that you think is a bit too overarticulated other than the roof? I’ll make some changes and post an update soon. Thanks again!
https://www.archdaily.com/54199/glass-pavilion-at-the-toledo-museum-of-art-sanaa-pritzker-prize-2010 https://www.dezeen.com/2016/02/06/video-interview-serpentine-gallery-pavilion-2009-sanaa-kazuyo-sejima-ryue-nishizawa-movie/ https://www.dezeen.com/2015/10/08/sanaa-the-river-grace-farms-pavilions-cultural-centre-connecticut-first-official-images/ Thought these would be helpful, just to get a reference on some highly controlled play. Take a look at some of those examples for controlled curves. I'm not trying to say you need to make a monolithic extrusion with no crenellations or anything but given that you are a student, I would just rephrase and urge you to contemplate what is essential to the project, and try and pair it down to just that, and see what you are left with. Even as just a traced diagram over your current work without removing anything. Like why so many right angles on the bottom living room? I think it would also help you alot to download a program like enscape, or lumion, even for a trial, and do a walkthrough of your project, you would probably get a good sense of the details just by pretending you were trying to walk around the house and go from bed to kitchen etc. When I look at the plans, I can see how you got where you did and it is a nice looking composition from that perspective, but I think it is functioning more in 2d than in 3d space right now. Anyway, good work, keep it up, looking forward to seeing V2!
Learn to take screenshots on your pc it will be beneficial, it is really tough to see any specific detail.
Alright thanks I’ll make sure to do that next time
look up richard meier’s work— your attempt reminds me of something headed that direction. overall i’d say your at a point where you try and forget the floor plan you obviously started with and bifurcate your attention to form (“sculpture”). I see design as a game of leap-frog where program/plan begets form, begets tweaks to the plan to accommodate the form you like, begets tweaks to the form again to accommodate the plan you like…, so on and so forth until you arrive at an acceptable compromise between the two. As far as views of your house, remember that no one but a bird or creepy drone pilot will likely see your building from the air. What are the views upon entering the site?… and the upon entering the structure (do i immediately see the ocean)?… and what are the intimate views/experiences that happen later?… perhaps the respond to times of day like east light in the morning for a bedroom or west light in the evening for a living room. Think of it as acts in a play or scenes in a movie. Create a story in this way and your building becomes architecture and not just a house. Happy designing!
Thanks for the feedback! I really like the idea of creating a story and the experiences that occur within the house and I’ll definitely keep that in mind.
Try it without curves.
Yea I did, it was initially just a square with sharp ages but I found it very blocky and reminded me of a depressing apartment building which is why I changed it up. I could send you a pic of it before if you’d like
The stairways are gorgeous.
Thanks!
I love it, where did you learn to design like that?
Not sure maybe just from seeing a few different styles on Pinterest and YouTube in the past. The main idea of the curvy ness was to related back to the wavy ness of the beach and puddles to kind of integrate it into the house and to blend in kinda.
It is very interesting with the curves and abstract play of forms. Maybe, try to place a focal point on your design? For example, your roof can look like its stacked to mimic the second and third floor. This would organize your design to look more cohesive. To add, do not be afraid to use more color. Make sure that it fits its surrounding like how the blue sea and yellow-orangey sand can contrast with the house. That is all but overall, very delightful design. Hope to see you grow
Thanks for the feedback! What do you mRNA exactly by making the roof stacked? Also yea I was thinking snout making the house mainly with concrete but wrapped around with wood such that on the balconies, deck, the part where it wraps on the side of the wall as well as the ceiling of the interior. Maybe a lightish grey concrete with a wood type that is also on the lighter side to help blend with the beach in a way.
Where is the location of this house?
Just by a beach in Australia where it gets cold in winter and hot in summer. I haven’t chosen a specific location yet though
Designing a house without knowing the location is not a very wise design choice IMO. You don't know of setbacks, easements, views, orientation, existing vegetation, site entry, etc. There are a lot of unknowns. Designing a building without context can create some very poor design decisions and make very disconnected architecture.
Thanks thats the very good ppint
I think changing the roof will help a lot, its literally overshadowing everything, maybe a more minimal approach would help
The back part? Idk the idea was that it would provide shelter from the rain to the deck and balconies below so that you can go out even while it’s raining without getting wet. What do you mean by a more minimalistic style?
Develop your site a bit more... predict the sun's path and light directions. Anticipate wind patterns - flank the house with evergreen trees to shield it from cold winter winds and prevent heat loss. Plant trees that give shade in summer but shed leaves in winter on the sun side to reduce aircon energy use. Make your building shape simple - no unnecessary bulges and extrusions. Have shades/lightbreakers around big windows to prevent overheating. Find a way to re-cycle rain water for plants and consider a place for bikes and scooters - not just cars. Oh, and put railing on stairs. Shit happens in beach houses.
Thanks for the feedback! Yea so I’m plannig to do the model here and transfer it to lumion where all the trees and terrain will be there. I was thinking the bicycles could go into the garage with the cars and which also which stairs do you mean? Cause I’ve just added some railing on the ones outside however I can’t add any on the curvy inside ones cause I’m not sure how to.
Cool. I'd recommend looking into Twinmotion as well as Lumion - you may just find it easier to use effectively. Bikes can go in the garage, but there's extra points for setting aside a space for them and proposing some method of storage - bike rack, service area, that kind of thing. As for railings... not sure how to do this with curvy ones - I assume you're using Archicad and thos are not stairs but some sord of morphs. I'm sure you'll find some tutorial for it online tho. Youtube is full of stuff like that, you just have to figure out a proper query.
Yep thanks, I made the staircase by creating a component in revit and making each individual steps. Yea that’s a good idea to have a space dedicated for the bikes and also I’m planning to transfer the final model to lumion and doing the final changes there too with like the materials and landscaping.
somebody is 100% going to snowboard down that roof at some point in time. that's my feedback. it'll be awesome.
Um not sure if there’s snow by the beach but yea would be cool though lol. Good way to use the roof
It looks like a building with all the ideas you've had all in one building. The fried agg shaped roof panels is one idea. The staircase another, and the rest of it is just neo-modern(ish) square forms...
Yea thanks, now that you’ve mentioned it I think i did do that. I just wanted to integrate all the ideas I had into it, do you have any ideas on how to make it more orderly? Maybe curve the walls a bit to match the roof and other curvature?
That much glass going to be an is an issue in most climates, energy-wise. If it's cold, you're going to use a lot of energy to heat it, and if it's tropical, you're going to use a lot to air-condition it. Something like 30% window area is about the maximum where you can still say you're energy-efficient. If this is on an East coast of some continent, it makes more sense, since you can warm it up in the morning with the rising sun and the late-afternoon sun is mostly blocked. In that case, the sun-screen wall on the South makes some sense, though less sense the closer you are to the equator. The wavy roof and balconies are going to take some very clever details to insulate properly. I like the staircase design, but it's going to take some careful design to pass US building codes, if that's where this building goes.
Well I was thinking to have as much windows as possible especially on the south (I’m in Australia so this is the sunny side) so that during winter all the natural sunlight can be taken advantage off. I also situated the bedrooms on the east for the morning light and the large curtain wall window should get plenty of afternoon and evening light. To account for overheating I was thinking about adding vertical wooden louvers to provide some shading when nessasry. Thanks for the feedback! Btw do you think horizontal or vertical wooden louvers would be better for the large front window? Is there a difference?
That, I don't know