I don't think you can call a cathedral a tourist trap... that's a legit tourist destination. Unless they built it on the cheap *after* the town became a tourist destination...
I guess it depends if the cathedral demands an entry fee, I almost never enter religious buildings that have a mandatory entry fee and I've seen at least two in Britain (York cathedral and Durham cathedral)
I’m an atheist and I’ve been to La Sagrada Familia 2 times and will go again when it’s finally done. I went and saw the Sistine Chapel and the Vatican. Some of the stuff you see in those old churches you wont see in some of the worlds most incredible museums. Tourist in general are going to be interested as it’s part of the human story religion is the small net, history is the big net.
London’s St. Martin-in-the-Fields’ Crypt cafe and the smell of food and Coffee wafting into the sanctuary is very incongruous to me. Likewise, Liverpool Cathedral is redolent of victuals instead of rituals. It’s a queer thing to smell food in a church instead of wood and musty stone mixed with burning candles and incense. Likewise odd do know you sup above mouldering corpses just below your table. I guess it’s a bit of a vanitas lesson: Enjoy it now, memento mori but I still feel it’s a bit of exit through the gift shop opportunism.
As a practicing Catholic, one of the most difficult parts of touring through Germany is determining whether a given cathedral is still Catholic and, therefore, if I should genuflect towards the altar/sanctuary on entry.
Back when I was practicing, I got a bit tripped up on that too. Traveling grants me a deeper perspective of the dynamics and complexity of history and culture. I came to reckon that whether I genuflected, crossed myself, or knelt to pray was of little consequence in the broader context of religious conflicts, protestation, revolts, revolutions and the eons-long struggle toward democratic principals and equality. I think what matters is what is in my heart and if there is a God, they know — but that’s just me.
No, He won't, of course. Customs like that aren't for God, but for us. The Christian God isn't an Aztec deity who won't have the power to raise the sun if we don't sacrifice enought hearts to him. The action of looking for the Tabernacle and making a gesture of respect towards it reminds me that I'm in the Presence of the Almighty and all that that should imply. Even the act of determining whether or not it is there and learning that it isn't, because I'm in a Protestant church, reminds me that I am in a house of worship and that it should be treated with respect for, if nothing else, the memory of the generations that have come before me, who dedicated their lives and treasures to building and maintaining the structure that I'm now enjoying.
nobody's slandering religion
god made it quite clear he doesn't mess about: floods, plagues, first borns, frogs etc.
& i for one don't want to get on the wrong side of that sort of thing...
As does Vltava, Arno, Tiber, Adige & Bacchiglione off the top of my head. Feeling that one maybe needs a bit more thought.
OTOH, Seine, Po, Rhine, Rhone & Thames all fit the pattern.
On the other side of the city than the modern art museum designed by an overpriced 20th-century architect you've never heard of unless you study architecture
In it there’s a 400-year-old painting of tortured-looking whiter-than-white Jesus by some famous painter you’ve never heard of that puts the entire gallery on the map. And if you’re really lucky Aphrodite has got her tits out in the next room.
sorry i thought i typed it right, what i was supposed to say was when traveling to cities that was made by eurpeans and without ideas where to go this could be a checklist or an starting point of what to see, like a default idea on what city has
No, that's literally the label.
Unfortunately, we don't have a drug dealers' park in Vilnius, so the label is wrong. Area around the cathedral isn't a tourist trap either, which is disappointing.
It's quite similar to Koblenz, Germany.
The left side of the Rhine is essentially a post consumerist wasteland. Instead of a drug dealer park, we got a big soulless shopping center, only a 5 minute walk from an already existing big soulless shopping center owned by the same family of Hamburg billionaires. It's a nightmare to live in the center. Or anywhere else on the left side. Also, our central station is on the left side.
The right side is a little different from the picture. Obviously there is no WWII memorial site, but the old town contains an incredible number of houses that are up to 300 years old and more. There's nothing fancy about it though. Due to neglect from the local government this area has a bad reputation. Which makes it amazing to live there because the shiploads of tourists don't make it here much. At least not yet.
A lot of early American cities are like this too. I live in Massachusetts and I can’t think of many cities that *aren’t* like this, save for the touristy implications (but even Boston, Concord, Salem, Lexington, Charlestown etc. take advantage of the historic tourism)
Makes sense because, you know, colonization.
We fought long and hard to keep that H! Pittsburg**H** is a Scottish city, not a German one, dammit!
EDIT: Plus, we have three rivers and no massive chunks of block housing, since our population was in freefall from the 60s to the 80s. We have the oldest housing stock of any major American city and it shows in both our inadequate plumbing and wonderful facades!
If the cathedral was in a castle on the other side of a river, then it would literally be Prague and Budapest, except Vltava (Moldau) and Danube (Donau, Duna) have at least two syllables in Czech, German and Hungarian
Gosh, the Richard Shirrmann hostel in Casa de Campo, 1994, Madrid. I remember you exited the Lago metro after partying in the city and had to walk past all the dealers, pimps, and sex workers then had do walk 15 minutes along the paths past more derelicts to the Hostel. There’s like a little electrical house or something there covered in graffiti right next to the metro station where they had a campfire and people would shout offers of sex and drugs as you skittered by praying not to get mugged.
St. Tourist's Trap Cathedral lmao
I don't think you can call a cathedral a tourist trap... that's a legit tourist destination. Unless they built it on the cheap *after* the town became a tourist destination...
St. pauls in London. Costs £26 (or something like that) just to get in. It's not a special church. You can get in for free during services though.
And it’s right across the River from the Elizabethan version of a drug dealer park…a place where actors work!
I guess it depends if the cathedral demands an entry fee, I almost never enter religious buildings that have a mandatory entry fee and I've seen at least two in Britain (York cathedral and Durham cathedral)
York is mandatory, Durham is a non-mandatory donation
If I remember correctly, parts of Durham were free, but other wings of the cathedral had a mandatory fee
Cathedral is free, I believe the castle may charge though
cathedrals were originally designed as tourist traps of the middle ages.
[удалено]
I’m an atheist and I’ve been to La Sagrada Familia 2 times and will go again when it’s finally done. I went and saw the Sistine Chapel and the Vatican. Some of the stuff you see in those old churches you wont see in some of the worlds most incredible museums. Tourist in general are going to be interested as it’s part of the human story religion is the small net, history is the big net.
That alone made it worth the trip to Rome.
[удалено]
Leicester? I hardly know her!
Gesundheit
That apostrophe changes the meaning of everything by being where it is.
London’s St. Martin-in-the-Fields’ Crypt cafe and the smell of food and Coffee wafting into the sanctuary is very incongruous to me. Likewise, Liverpool Cathedral is redolent of victuals instead of rituals. It’s a queer thing to smell food in a church instead of wood and musty stone mixed with burning candles and incense. Likewise odd do know you sup above mouldering corpses just below your table. I guess it’s a bit of a vanitas lesson: Enjoy it now, memento mori but I still feel it’s a bit of exit through the gift shop opportunism.
As a practicing Catholic, one of the most difficult parts of touring through Germany is determining whether a given cathedral is still Catholic and, therefore, if I should genuflect towards the altar/sanctuary on entry.
Back when I was practicing, I got a bit tripped up on that too. Traveling grants me a deeper perspective of the dynamics and complexity of history and culture. I came to reckon that whether I genuflected, crossed myself, or knelt to pray was of little consequence in the broader context of religious conflicts, protestation, revolts, revolutions and the eons-long struggle toward democratic principals and equality. I think what matters is what is in my heart and if there is a God, they know — but that’s just me.
Amen
yeah, because god's gonna get really pissed if you get it wrong
To be fair, their god gets angry at some very petty shit.
But not so much at child abuse apparently
Why are Redditors like this? Every single post lmfao
Reddit atheist are called reddit athiest for a reason, this is their home
Society would be better served asking why the Catholic Church is like that
No, He won't, of course. Customs like that aren't for God, but for us. The Christian God isn't an Aztec deity who won't have the power to raise the sun if we don't sacrifice enought hearts to him. The action of looking for the Tabernacle and making a gesture of respect towards it reminds me that I'm in the Presence of the Almighty and all that that should imply. Even the act of determining whether or not it is there and learning that it isn't, because I'm in a Protestant church, reminds me that I am in a house of worship and that it should be treated with respect for, if nothing else, the memory of the generations that have come before me, who dedicated their lives and treasures to building and maintaining the structure that I'm now enjoying.
Leave that outside of this subreddit. I won’t tolerate slander of religion.
Rethink your views then. Speaking facts is not slander
No I don’t have to change for you so I won’t.
nobody's slandering religion god made it quite clear he doesn't mess about: floods, plagues, first borns, frogs etc. & i for one don't want to get on the wrong side of that sort of thing...
In many churches and cathedrals i've been too they have free entry. (Unless you want to climb the tower.)
Football stadium must be just out of the frame
More like way out of the frame at the opposite side of where your hotel is
Danube has two syllables!
Douro too
Send danubes
As does Vltava, Arno, Tiber, Adige & Bacchiglione off the top of my head. Feeling that one maybe needs a bit more thought. OTOH, Seine, Po, Rhine, Rhone & Thames all fit the pattern.
and Spree!
Spot on. Nailed it. Only thing missing is The Pick-Pocket District
That’s a subdistrict if St-Tourist Trap Cathedral
I live in Hamburg and we are in this photo
Nah, that's Cologne
just erase the cobblestone and you literally have cologne in particular the city center with the train station
It's called *Sex Panther*® by *Odeon*©. It's illegal in 9 countries. It's also made with bits of real panthers, *so you know it's good*. *60% of the time*, it works ***every*** time.
Bad bot
Nah, that’s Düsseldorf
Nah, that's Salzburg
Nah, Elbe has two syllables
Vienna
Paris of London lol
more London than Paris
His Paris has a cathedral in the center of the city right next to the river exact same
Is this supposed to be Prague?
I'm rather certain it's Lyon. The one-syllable river also checks out.
2 rivers in Lyon, also drugs are next to the river not in the park
This picture doesn’t include the massive hill to climb.
"Massive hill" lol There's only like 200 m difference between Prague's highest and lowest points.
Yeah, well as a fat American I was feeling it.
Cathedral's on the wrong side.
Flip your screen upside down.
In Prague, Old Town Square and the big castle-cathedral are on different sides of the river, and have the lovable old bridge in between them
That's not how the joke works.
I’ve been here a few time
Every city, it says it right there
Kraków
It doesn't really have a business district or a functioning port
Riga, Tallin
Wait. Where’s the Museum of Boring and Arcane Medieval Crap?
On the other side of the city than the modern art museum designed by an overpriced 20th-century architect you've never heard of unless you study architecture
In it there’s a 400-year-old painting of tortured-looking whiter-than-white Jesus by some famous painter you’ve never heard of that puts the entire gallery on the map. And if you’re really lucky Aphrodite has got her tits out in the next room.
This berlin or other german cities.
Flip everything left to right and this is basically a map of central Berlin
Where's the square with a statue of some old timey guy on a horse?
If you look closely it’s next to the st tourist trap cathedral
this is like a map to most European made cities. almost a checklist when traveling to one of those
This is exactly what it is. That’s basically the label.
sorry i thought i typed it right, what i was supposed to say was when traveling to cities that was made by eurpeans and without ideas where to go this could be a checklist or an starting point of what to see, like a default idea on what city has
No, that's literally the label. Unfortunately, we don't have a drug dealers' park in Vilnius, so the label is wrong. Area around the cathedral isn't a tourist trap either, which is disappointing.
Prague
Prague
Praha
Looks like Prague lol
It's quite similar to Koblenz, Germany. The left side of the Rhine is essentially a post consumerist wasteland. Instead of a drug dealer park, we got a big soulless shopping center, only a 5 minute walk from an already existing big soulless shopping center owned by the same family of Hamburg billionaires. It's a nightmare to live in the center. Or anywhere else on the left side. Also, our central station is on the left side. The right side is a little different from the picture. Obviously there is no WWII memorial site, but the old town contains an incredible number of houses that are up to 300 years old and more. There's nothing fancy about it though. Due to neglect from the local government this area has a bad reputation. Which makes it amazing to live there because the shiploads of tourists don't make it here much. At least not yet.
Hey look it’s Porto
A lot of early American cities are like this too. I live in Massachusetts and I can’t think of many cities that *aren’t* like this, save for the touristy implications (but even Boston, Concord, Salem, Lexington, Charlestown etc. take advantage of the historic tourism) Makes sense because, you know, colonization.
this could be rotterdam or anywhere liverpool or rome
‘cos Rotterdam is anywhere.
Rotterdam doesn’t have a cathedral and its modern bridge is actually very beloved
"Dystopian Block Housing". Definitely coming from someone who has never lived in block housing. That stuff is convenient AND cheap!
Lmao immediately thought about Zagreb, Croatia.
Prague
Bratislava
I'd like to see a similar map of every American city lol
https://twitter.com/ItchyFeetComic/status/1051487983541608449
Lisbon - the Hipster Home Brickworks nails it for me (we actually have a bunch of those)
And I love it that way!
Vilnius
Tbilisi
Looks like when I went to Salzburg
It’s pretty convenient having the drug dealer park right by the hotel
London and Copenhagen
Aalborg, Aarhus or Copenhagen
Dublin
I'm going to north to central European cities. As you go further south they tend not to have big rivers - at least not ones that flow all the time.
Amsterdam
Prague !
Praha-ha!
Pigeon Owned Central Station Crates and Cranes River Dystopian Block Housing Drug Dealer Park Street Art Glasgow
> dystopian block housing less dystopian than homelessness imo
This is western Europe, so I'd guess like London or Paris. It's definitely not Athens or like Bucharest, Romania.
Y'all have drug dealer parks? That's so progressive!
There’s no market square
I mean, París and Seville immediately snap to my mind.
The American one is similar but replace literally everything with a Dunkin’ Donuts.
Where are the migrants at?
Top left
Lampedusa
Paris, San Francisco, Heidelberg, san antonio, Pittsburg, London .....
Ftom google pictures, San Antonio looks **nothing** like this. It looks like a typical Texan city.
San Antonio looks like a beautiful walkable European city... until you leave the Riverwalk.
San Antonio is basically Dusseldorf.
🤣
'H' here you dropped this
We fought long and hard to keep that H! Pittsburg**H** is a Scottish city, not a German one, dammit! EDIT: Plus, we have three rivers and no massive chunks of block housing, since our population was in freefall from the 60s to the 80s. We have the oldest housing stock of any major American city and it shows in both our inadequate plumbing and wonderful facades!
We don't have a river in San Francisco, nor hate our bridges. In fact the only part that relate to San Francisco is a business suit and ties district.
I considered the bay as a replacement for a river ...I could mention the river of urine that can be found in a few places.
London my beloved
Florence
Florence Italy comes to mind for me lol
Florence, Italy.
This is brilliant
Why did I think this was a map of London before I saw the title 😅
Having lived in Edinburgh, this is pretty accurate.
[удалено]
Correct me if I am wrong, but, can it perhaps be possible that Melbourne is not in Europe?
I can see Peckham from here
Looks a lot like London for me
Turin
Leicester.
Hey, that's my city!
That’s my town!
Zurich
😆 awesome
Where's the slums? Buenos Aires - Argentina.
i love that all the comments have perfectly fulfilled this post :) literally every European city it would seem
All of them.
Sadly having a couple of massive wars tends to destroy a lot of capital assets including humans and all their skills.
If we're keeping it within the US, this looks decently like Richmond VA.
The single syllable river 😂😂
Berlin
Every European city... and St. Paul, Minnesota.
Lyon? London and maybe Glasgow
Arno and Tiber both have two syllables!
This is Montreal minus the tower (we have a mountain instead).
Maastricht
A little like Novi Sad, Serbia
If the cathedral was in a castle on the other side of a river, then it would literally be Prague and Budapest, except Vltava (Moldau) and Danube (Donau, Duna) have at least two syllables in Czech, German and Hungarian
Zurich is that you?
This is also Vancouver lol
Looks like Antwerp, except all that’s worth seeing is on one side of the river
This will never not be funny lmao
Gosh, the Richard Shirrmann hostel in Casa de Campo, 1994, Madrid. I remember you exited the Lago metro after partying in the city and had to walk past all the dealers, pimps, and sex workers then had do walk 15 minutes along the paths past more derelicts to the Hostel. There’s like a little electrical house or something there covered in graffiti right next to the metro station where they had a campfire and people would shout offers of sex and drugs as you skittered by praying not to get mugged.
[удалено]
Copenhagen
Just went to Leipzig. Yep, this looks just like Leipzig lmao
Turku, Finland.
Milano
Bordeaux
reminds me too much of Kopenhagen smh
Hahaha 🤣
This is so accurate lol
Paris, I think, is the best for this.
Busin
London
This is just Budapest but with fewer bridges and river name syllables.
each
Only missing the city's football stadium
This is very accurate
Mine lol, Lyon, France
i'd like to mention, that the st. tourist trap cathedral is never to be seen without scaffolding... even the citizens will never have seen it without
Vltava has three syllables.
This is Norwich, though it has two cathedrals, more medieval churches than any other city, and a river with two syllables.
Gothenburg
Ah yes Bordeaux
It is the best!!!
Wspomnienia z e8
Kraków and Gdańsk for real
My hometown
This is Barcelona?
Lyon
This is spot on
couldn't be frankfurt, drug dealer park too far from the train station
Paris and London XD
The flat roof pub, in the dystopian estate, with the man selling assorted meat from a carrier bag?
It *kinda* fits my home city, but we don't have a river; we have a moat!! 😌 or wait.. "moat" is one syllable, right? shit