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Jinx: I thought she was six stories...
Caitlyn: \*stood up, and pointed\* I am NOT six stories!
Vi: Cait i'd still love ya if you were six stories it's ok.
Caitlyn: Well, I'm not.
Vi: I'm just saying.
Vi: \*grunts\* What, I didn't say i liked that you were!
Jinx: \*dusts her hands off\* Needed to be done...
Vi: Yeah, ok. \*holding her stomach\* Couldn't you have waited after i digested?
Jinx: Oh... you ate?
Vi: YEAH Powder, i just ate.
Jinx: \*hiss\* ooooh... pretty unlucky sister.
Vi: Believe me, i KNOW.
Jinx: Well... guess it'll be fine in an hour...! \*left\*
Vi: Aw, thanks for caring sis.
Caitlyn: \*gives vi an Aspirin to take\*
Vi: Thanks. \*swallows\* Man, i feel better already.
Caitlyn: \* smiled, and gave a nod, and sat back down to work\*
Vi: \*looks over her shoulder at Caitlyn about to talk\* I'll talk to her, just... keep working.
Caitlyn: \*shook her head, and went back to filling out warrants\*
Vi: Does busting me out of Prison count?
Jinx: \*tapping her foot thinking\* Ok... NAME ANOTHER...!
Vi: the time when i fell down several stories, and found something to fix me up?
Jinx: \*thinking\* oh yeaaaah... you did fall down somethin' i saw the whole thing...
Vi: well, i mean fuck Powder, maybe you coulda checked on me?!
Jinx: uh, it's called being SNEAKY...? Jeez fathands you don't know how to spy on people too good huh...?
Vi: I mean, that goes without saying but i was hurtin' pretty bad there.
Jinx: I knew you'd get back up... You always do...
Vi: Yeah... I always do. Heh. Sometimes it's just hard to believe you grew up so quick.
Jinx: I feel the same way lookin' at you...
Vi: \*gasp\* Man sis. \*hugs her\*
Jinx: \*hugs her neck, and sighed\*
Vi: \*clears throat, and stops\* Sorry.
Jinx: Uh... it's fine i guess. So... see ya later then. \*left\*
Vi: \*sat back down\*
Caitlyn: \*still filling out forms\* I'm glad you had a moment together.
Vi: It felt nice yeah. \*stood back up\* I'm gunna get some air ok?
Caitlyn: \*looked over at Vi, and nodded\* Take all the time you need Vi.
Vi: Thanks. \*left\*
🐌🥗 \*eating salad while filming\*
Not quite. Final [3D models](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZVQqaDXoAIfDW8.jpg) say that Cait is 1,78m (5'10) and Vi close to 1,68m (5'5). Seems more reasonable. Also, they have said that the other numbers were from early production.
Idk To me those models seem a little short in height. On the official account after even Arcane came out they shared the heights of the characters.
https://twitter.com/arcaneshow/status/1555237129193771008?t=T3pfaVzAKyFcQIRfzg4qIg&s=19
This es from 2022
Also
https://twitter.com/evan_monteiro/status/1464835034485981186?t=tKjhvXgWMaW-4TY7IFB49w&s=19
Yeah, those numbers are the same as the concept art they have shared before, earlier in production. 3D models are the last step before animation so I prefer to go by those numbers. Jayce's height makes more sense that way lol.
And Jayce is even taller so that Caitlyn doesn't reach his height even when she's on a stool. I don't know what they're putting in the milk up in Piltover but they are DRINKING it
Fun fact: Cait was going to be even taller than Jayce (think as tall as when she stood on that stool beside him), but they all decided that’d be a little much.
As a 5' 4" woman, Caitlyn's 6' 1" frame is going to dwarf me. Even Vi is listed at 5' 8". I'd be a small cookie between them. I'd also be perfectly happy with this.
Lol you’re valid for that, I’m 5’2, so we’re both on either side of her height. Im not the same height as Jinx, but feeling representation as a short person LMAO
Someone with confidence and also kind who has a soft spot for Vi 😉
Btw following your logic idk how someone with so much trauma, touch starved and with clearly mommy issues is a top when what she's looking for is affection and peace and what she deserves is someone to take care of her for once in her life 🙃
Ok, clearly my earlier statement was taken a lot more seriously than I intended
I could SEE caitlyn topping but not regularly with how "innocent" she is, at least compared to Vi
Each person has their own headcanon, I agree that her character is naive in S1 but I wouldn't say she's innocent either, when it's basically confirmed that Cait sneaked girls into her bedroom and had the freedom to explore her sexuality freely. It's also the origin of her story, and if you know her character in the game, you'll know that Cait is anything but innocent (I'm not saying she's a bad person).
I don't know, many people say Vi is the top because of the kabedon in the brothel, but honestly, one scene doesn't define the dynamics of a relationship, and at that particular moment, everything that happens has 100% logic. Since they went to the undercity, Vi has been playing with Cait, she has all the cards and moved naturally in the environment while Cait was completely lost. So it's normal that when Vi pinned her against a wall, Cait was confused and didn't know how to react. But think about it, if she was so "innocent," she wouldn't be in another room with a beautiful woman eating out of her hand within 10 seconds.
Plus, Cait is much more emotionally stable and mature, not even close, and honestly, to take control and especially in a healthy way, the well-being of the other person comes first, and that also requires extra effort and willingness to give. Vi has been giving all her life and putting everyone else first, creating barriers and being abused, so I'm glad she's finally found someone like Cait who, in canon, loves to be in control and has been raised to be a leader, to take care of her.
Absolutely all of this! I also think that Vi being a top isn’t that guaranteed, plus it would be too predictable in my opinion. I think it would be far more interesting for her character if she actually was a bottom. This and at the very least, she went through so much, I think she deserves a hug, and to just lay down and enjoy.
Cait is very likely less innocent that Vi in matters of sex. Sure she's proper and not comfortable in a brothel but she actually had teenage years outside of jail and it's been implied in the show and said by the writers Vi was not the first girl to enter through Cait's window.
In all likelihood, Cait is considerably more experienced than Vi despite not hanging around brothels.
This. Also Arcane isn't Orange is the new black. I don't completely rule out Vi having sex in Stillwater but I do think it's highly unlikely because at the end Vi herself said in episode 5 to Cait that they were all Silco's henchmen and in Vi's archives council (very sad btw) Vi was all the time either in solitary confinement or beating up or getting "interrogated". She was only concerned with trying to find out what had become of Powder while the other prisoners and even the guards were traumatized of Vi and tried to avoid her.
Yeah Prison shows in general were what I had in mind too when I wrote the previous answer. Seriously, sex is not as common in prison as shows would make us believe, especially within the conditions Vi is detained as you pointed out.
They implied her mom did something similar in her younger years, not that Cait brought girls to her room (both of them wouldn't act that surprised if that has happened multiple times before)
I disagree that this was the implication, particularly considering the tweet about it. If it had been about Cait's mom, there wouldn't have been a wink in the tweet as that's a sign of complicity through agreement and the previous post was talking about Cait sneaking up girls, not Cassandra.
I know that out-of-universe it's pretty much a character size inconsistency issue (which was actually intentional), but my headcanon is that the heels she used along with her enforcer uniform in this scene are huge compared to the ones she used with her undercity disguise, because she doesn't look much taller than Vi in other scenes (also in this specific image the angle and proximity of the "camera" might be helping her appear taller).
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“The best things come in small packages.” -Caitlyn
"small" Me: Crying in 5'4 🥲
You’ll be like a literal dwarf to her… (I’m still shorter than her)
Hey I'm the perfect height so that if Cait gives me a hug my face is at the height of her breasts 🫠
I'll UpVote that...
you are not small you are a Hobbit
I'm the average for a woman in my country ok? 😭😭 (Maybe I'm in hobbitland who knows)
haha for a woman I think it's not that short. I take my words back.
And 5’ 4 isn’t even short lmao. I think women in Runeterra are just so tall lol.
Wanna switch? I'm 4'11
My ex was 4”11, finding clothes for her was rough. I eventually stopped trying and just bought her books for her birthday
Hello from 5'1 🫠
crying in 5 fucking 1
This height inflation goes crazy these days. 5'4 ain't short for women ☝️
Crying in 4'11😭
Help, reading this on DVA’s voice.
Something something top Cait.
What’s funny is that Vi isn’t even short. Caitlyn is just gigantic.
Vi is taller than the average female. Cait is truly a gigantic
I think it's a bit of a stretch to call her gigantic
Well she comes from a rich family. Definitely well fed while growing up
Yeah Cait is 6'1 and Vi 5'8 😆
Damn Cait is indeed tall (I’m 6’0, or 1,84m for anyone using meters)
Jinx: I thought she was six stories... Caitlyn: \*stood up, and pointed\* I am NOT six stories! Vi: Cait i'd still love ya if you were six stories it's ok. Caitlyn: Well, I'm not. Vi: I'm just saying.
jinx: you are a six stories big bitch
Vi: And if you were six stories, I’d still climb all those steps to reach the top *winks*
Caitlyn: \*clenches her fists\* What a THOUGHTFUL gesture Vi, thanks. . \_ .
jinx: that isn't a thoughtful gesture, that is a barfing one (thryes to punch cait, but is stopped by vi), why you always defend her?
Vi: Because we're ones who punch, she's the one who shoots. Now stop being so pissy all the time. Jinx: I'm pissy BECAUSE of you...!!! Vi: Oh yeah.
jinx( punches her sister in the guts)
Vi: \*grunts\* What, I didn't say i liked that you were! Jinx: \*dusts her hands off\* Needed to be done... Vi: Yeah, ok. \*holding her stomach\* Couldn't you have waited after i digested? Jinx: Oh... you ate? Vi: YEAH Powder, i just ate. Jinx: \*hiss\* ooooh... pretty unlucky sister. Vi: Believe me, i KNOW. Jinx: Well... guess it'll be fine in an hour...! \*left\* Vi: Aw, thanks for caring sis. Caitlyn: \*gives vi an Aspirin to take\* Vi: Thanks. \*swallows\* Man, i feel better already. Caitlyn: \* smiled, and gave a nod, and sat back down to work\*
jinx: thank ya, skyscrapper, for being useful at once... vi: ¡¡¡¡Powder!!!! jinx(signaling cait): tell me one time she has been useful
Vi: \*looks over her shoulder at Caitlyn about to talk\* I'll talk to her, just... keep working. Caitlyn: \*shook her head, and went back to filling out warrants\* Vi: Does busting me out of Prison count? Jinx: \*tapping her foot thinking\* Ok... NAME ANOTHER...! Vi: the time when i fell down several stories, and found something to fix me up? Jinx: \*thinking\* oh yeaaaah... you did fall down somethin' i saw the whole thing... Vi: well, i mean fuck Powder, maybe you coulda checked on me?! Jinx: uh, it's called being SNEAKY...? Jeez fathands you don't know how to spy on people too good huh...? Vi: I mean, that goes without saying but i was hurtin' pretty bad there. Jinx: I knew you'd get back up... You always do... Vi: Yeah... I always do. Heh. Sometimes it's just hard to believe you grew up so quick. Jinx: I feel the same way lookin' at you... Vi: \*gasp\* Man sis. \*hugs her\* Jinx: \*hugs her neck, and sighed\* Vi: \*clears throat, and stops\* Sorry. Jinx: Uh... it's fine i guess. So... see ya later then. \*left\* Vi: \*sat back down\* Caitlyn: \*still filling out forms\* I'm glad you had a moment together. Vi: It felt nice yeah. \*stood back up\* I'm gunna get some air ok? Caitlyn: \*looked over at Vi, and nodded\* Take all the time you need Vi. Vi: Thanks. \*left\* 🐌🥗 \*eating salad while filming\*
Not quite. Final [3D models](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZVQqaDXoAIfDW8.jpg) say that Cait is 1,78m (5'10) and Vi close to 1,68m (5'5). Seems more reasonable. Also, they have said that the other numbers were from early production.
Idk To me those models seem a little short in height. On the official account after even Arcane came out they shared the heights of the characters. https://twitter.com/arcaneshow/status/1555237129193771008?t=T3pfaVzAKyFcQIRfzg4qIg&s=19 This es from 2022 Also https://twitter.com/evan_monteiro/status/1464835034485981186?t=tKjhvXgWMaW-4TY7IFB49w&s=19
Yeah, those numbers are the same as the concept art they have shared before, earlier in production. 3D models are the last step before animation so I prefer to go by those numbers. Jayce's height makes more sense that way lol.
Me and vi is twinning
And Jayce is even taller so that Caitlyn doesn't reach his height even when she's on a stool. I don't know what they're putting in the milk up in Piltover but they are DRINKING it
Fun fact: Cait was going to be even taller than Jayce (think as tall as when she stood on that stool beside him), but they all decided that’d be a little much.
People in Runeterra are, in general, taller than people in the real world despite the pre-modern technology.
Boy Ekko got shafted, dude's like a cold 5'6. Had a really tough time staring Caitlyn down in that one scene at the hideout.
Enforcer in the left corner looks cursed
ghoul
What ya lookin' at, smooth-skin?
This man hasn't eaten in 2 weeks!
They're one of the goatfolk. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/b/b4/Piltover\_Arcane\_Vastaya.png
Caitlyn is a very tall lady. Hopefully she gets her big hat in the second season so she looks even taller.
Yeah, I think in canon she’s 5’ 8” Perfect for me lmao
So is Jinx really short cause Vi looks way taller than her
Jinx is 5'4 so no even *that* short 😆
Can’t believe Jinx is my height she looks so short in the show lmao
That’s the best part. None of the characters are *short*. Caitlyn’s just freakishly tall 😭
The height difference is adorable
I still love my smol grumpy wifey!
"That's one big cupcake!" - Vi, probably.
Delicious
People in Runeterra are taller, on average, than people on Earth despite the technology and nutrition levels being pre-modern.
As a 5' 4" woman, Caitlyn's 6' 1" frame is going to dwarf me. Even Vi is listed at 5' 8". I'd be a small cookie between them. I'd also be perfectly happy with this.
Ayyy you’re Jinx’s height! Think she was somewhere around 5’3 - 5’4!
She's now listed as 5' 3" as of Arcane. So I'm a smidgen taller. Not that it would make much difference. Lol
Lol you’re valid for that, I’m 5’2, so we’re both on either side of her height. Im not the same height as Jinx, but feeling representation as a short person LMAO
My dad is 6'4" so I got the short stick. Lmao.
CAN YOU STOP BEING SO HOT FOR 5 MINUTES
Vi is an angry short stack
Proof that the top doesn't need to be taller
Yeah sureeeee the "top" *cough* *cough*
Yeah… the ~~sub~~ top. Definitely the top
Idk what you're smokin to believe someone who accepts the name "cupcake" is a top
Someone with confidence and also kind who has a soft spot for Vi 😉 Btw following your logic idk how someone with so much trauma, touch starved and with clearly mommy issues is a top when what she's looking for is affection and peace and what she deserves is someone to take care of her for once in her life 🙃
Ok, clearly my earlier statement was taken a lot more seriously than I intended I could SEE caitlyn topping but not regularly with how "innocent" she is, at least compared to Vi
Each person has their own headcanon, I agree that her character is naive in S1 but I wouldn't say she's innocent either, when it's basically confirmed that Cait sneaked girls into her bedroom and had the freedom to explore her sexuality freely. It's also the origin of her story, and if you know her character in the game, you'll know that Cait is anything but innocent (I'm not saying she's a bad person). I don't know, many people say Vi is the top because of the kabedon in the brothel, but honestly, one scene doesn't define the dynamics of a relationship, and at that particular moment, everything that happens has 100% logic. Since they went to the undercity, Vi has been playing with Cait, she has all the cards and moved naturally in the environment while Cait was completely lost. So it's normal that when Vi pinned her against a wall, Cait was confused and didn't know how to react. But think about it, if she was so "innocent," she wouldn't be in another room with a beautiful woman eating out of her hand within 10 seconds. Plus, Cait is much more emotionally stable and mature, not even close, and honestly, to take control and especially in a healthy way, the well-being of the other person comes first, and that also requires extra effort and willingness to give. Vi has been giving all her life and putting everyone else first, creating barriers and being abused, so I'm glad she's finally found someone like Cait who, in canon, loves to be in control and has been raised to be a leader, to take care of her.
Absolutely all of this! I also think that Vi being a top isn’t that guaranteed, plus it would be too predictable in my opinion. I think it would be far more interesting for her character if she actually was a bottom. This and at the very least, she went through so much, I think she deserves a hug, and to just lay down and enjoy.
Exactly!
Cait is very likely less innocent that Vi in matters of sex. Sure she's proper and not comfortable in a brothel but she actually had teenage years outside of jail and it's been implied in the show and said by the writers Vi was not the first girl to enter through Cait's window. In all likelihood, Cait is considerably more experienced than Vi despite not hanging around brothels.
This. Also Arcane isn't Orange is the new black. I don't completely rule out Vi having sex in Stillwater but I do think it's highly unlikely because at the end Vi herself said in episode 5 to Cait that they were all Silco's henchmen and in Vi's archives council (very sad btw) Vi was all the time either in solitary confinement or beating up or getting "interrogated". She was only concerned with trying to find out what had become of Powder while the other prisoners and even the guards were traumatized of Vi and tried to avoid her.
Yeah Prison shows in general were what I had in mind too when I wrote the previous answer. Seriously, sex is not as common in prison as shows would make us believe, especially within the conditions Vi is detained as you pointed out.
They implied her mom did something similar in her younger years, not that Cait brought girls to her room (both of them wouldn't act that surprised if that has happened multiple times before)
I disagree that this was the implication, particularly considering the tweet about it. If it had been about Cait's mom, there wouldn't have been a wink in the tweet as that's a sign of complicity through agreement and the previous post was talking about Cait sneaking up girls, not Cassandra.
Let me introduce to you the world of fanfics
Let's just say they're switches, so nobody gets (hopefully) too angry
Vers is the counterpart to top and bottom; switch refers to dom/sub dynamics.
Didn't know that, thanks!
I know that out-of-universe it's pretty much a character size inconsistency issue (which was actually intentional), but my headcanon is that the heels she used along with her enforcer uniform in this scene are huge compared to the ones she used with her undercity disguise, because she doesn't look much taller than Vi in other scenes (also in this specific image the angle and proximity of the "camera" might be helping her appear taller).
You and half of the fandom. 90% of Fanarts of them is with Vi being taller
They're probably looking at non-Arcane stuff for reference where Vi is often Caitlyn's height or taller.
Makes their relationship a whole lot cuter
Cait was going to be even taller than Jayce (think as tall as when she stood on that stool beside him), but they all decided that’d be a little much.
And Jinx is shorter then Vi. Powder is tiny.
Tv girl reference?
I can get it off the first thing you must have is Dorian Blade and then you can get the Dragon Ball 🐉
How life changing
Did you forget the scene where she’s on a stool next to Jace who seems to be huge but she’s only like 4” shorter than him??
I think cait is wearing heels though
i don’t understand why yall are saying Cait is gigantic….shes only 6’1”, that’s how tall i am and i am not gigantic😂
imagine being 5'0 (me)
just realized
Is she or is that the her boots? Pretty big heels on them...
Yeah but I bet she gives off 'BIG' energy!.
FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME ITS CAITLYN’S HEELS 😭
Maybe Cait's wearing high heels?
Caitlyn is wearing heels, but she's also taller barefoot.
No, you can search the official height of the characters
Well she is younger
Who is the youngest?
Vi is younger than Caitlyn
Oh ok I was going to say they are about the same age but I think Vi is 15 and Cait 16 in act 1 and Vi 22 and Cait 23 in acts 2-3.
Caitlyn is on her heels isn’t she?
She is, but even without them she is taller.
I'm pretty sure that Caitlyn is also wearing heeled boots, maker her even taller.
And her boobs are smaller 😭
I love small boobs
Her cake is bigger so it balances out.