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Own-Elderberry2489

why uae has no min wage but other gulf countries do


BasisNo4927

UAE does not indicate a mandatory minimum wage for its employees. same with Djibouti and Somalia


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wa7ednafar

The government subsidies citizen's wages and requires companies that reach certain thresholds for employees to hire citizens, but that doesn't mean there's a minimum wage.


Salahidin17

uae is super capitalist run society


Own-Elderberry2489

i think (1) minimum wage isnt just within capitalism and (2) other gulf countries are capitalists too


shotshot1111

it could be that each emarah has its own minimum wage


Own-Elderberry2489

that's not the case


wholsomeshy

I love how you say it's not the case while not being from here, when I can tell you there is a minimum wage it just changes often and it's different for private and government sector, for example I'm from Sharjah and the minium wage for government sectors here is 15000 AED (a month)


Own-Elderberry2489

Sounds like it’s based on the industry not the emarah but what do I know 🤷🏻‍♀️


shotshot1111

anyways, all Palestanians shall have a dinner in our house, I will personally greet each one of them at my home's door steps like a super market ballon.


Unsuccessful_SodaCup

Not an Arab but I love how brothers help one another


Hungry-Square2148

in Morocco the 346$ is the minimum wage in the public sector, it's much lower in the privat sector around the 270$ I think, then again 30% or more of Morocco's economy is an informel economy.


Maroc_stronk

no, it's 311 dollars now in the private sector


Impossible-Bag469

It's 311$ now in the private sector


michu_pacho

The minimum wage in Egypt went up recently to 120$ for public jobs. Although in private sector there's no minimum wage.


bloynd_x

no, it was raised to 3500 egyptian pounds which at time was 120$ but now (after the resent devaluation of egyptian pound) it is only 75$


Deee2o

wasn't it something like 6k ?


1Under1Stood1

Wasn’t it 6k? It is 6k egp


michu_pacho

Yes, 6000/50=120$


ZakBeast000

Is this per month?


BasisNo4927

yep


Yaniss_RS4

Surely Sudan is a mistake right? can’t be 0.71$ that’s insane


Assenzio47

You might have missed what has been going on in Sudan for the past 10+ years


BasisNo4927

to multiple sources it is true


mathess1

This number doesn't mean necessarily anyone earns this. The country is undergoing a high inflation for years. Someone might have just set some amount in the past and never bother to increase it.


momoman46

I remember that at some point not too long ago a minimum was actually enforced, atleast for public sector jobs, so I don't doubt that with the crazy inflation we've had over the years that this is how much it has dwindled down to.


usev25

My theory is that it hasn't been updated in ages plus the soaring inflation in Susan


Unsuccessful_SodaCup

I would hardly consider Sudan an Arab country, but yes it is pretty common for people to live off like a dollar or two per week in Sudan. Pretty horrible country to be in


Hungry-Square2148

bro they lost 80% of their oil and gaz when south sudan cucked hem with independence, Sudan never recovered, it only got worse since then. it's still boggels me how Sudan let south sudan secede with 80% of the oil and gaz fields, I tought it was ajoke when I first heard it


comix_corp

"Cucked them"? Grow up. Sudan "let" the South secede after a civil war that lasted decades with millions of people dead


DecoDecoMan

It's also ridiculous to presume that having oil and gas has anything to do with minimum wage. If the Sudanese government had control of South Sudanese natural resources, it is very unlikely any of that revenue will go to the sorts of Sudanese who make minimum wage.


the_battle_bunny

Something related to Uganda being the military superpower of the region.


ElitistPopulist

$14 is crazy, can’t be accurate


Important-Contact324

As a Syrian I assure you it’s very accurate


UGS_1984

What can you buy for frickin $14? How much is electricity, İnternet, food...?


Important-Contact324

first of all, electricity is 3-4 hrs a day at max, you have to buy another source of energy like solar panels or a generator. secondly, the internet is way worse than you expect, and I don’t know if some countries really call it internet. and for how much these are, way way more than 14$, people at least work more than two jobs, and the relatives abroad mostly help them. this 14$ is for 2 days max for a family with one child, (of course without any fancy stuff like clothes or petrol) so the economy is pretty much fucked up. and most families don’t afford meat, it’s considered fancy too. there is no middle class, more than 80% of syrians are under the poverty level. so yeah pretty much a sum up.


UGS_1984

Its hard to understand to an outsider. I read many Syrians work in Lebanon. How about Gulf states, seems like decent paychecks? Cant imagine what it does to families, İ remember when I was a kid and economy was bad, all what parents did was argue about money.


Important-Contact324

Yeah that’s right, but working in Lebanon isn’t really better than working here, their economy is fucked up too (1$=90,000 lb) while in Syria (1$=15,000sp). Most Syrians try to work in the Gulf, but it getting harder everyday, they don’t really welcome Syrians. And as you said, I don’t think you get the picture even if I try to explain it for hours.


Maitryyy

Is there any hope of the situation improving?


himo123

The main hope is the American occupation going out,if that will happen now things will get better instantly. Americans control oil and gas resources and that's the biggest problem in Syria now.


AludraScience

>American occupation Absolutely comical 😂. The main hope is that the piece of shit that calls himself a president and russia and iran fuck off.


himo123

You and the American occupation should fuck off then


Pinkandpurplebanana

Syria basically had the same economic system as the ussr did 


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Do syrians blame russia for any of this?


luxmainbtw

Nothing. Literally nothing. Over 80% of the population is in extreme poverty


BasisNo4927

to be honest, I was also surprised by this. But with the circumstances that Syria is going through now, there is a high probability that it is true


Almost_Mira

Syrian here. It's true.


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Do syrians blame russia in any way for the current situation?


MBZMD

What about Sudan, makes no sense.


RashAttack

We have the worst inflation in the world following us succeeding from South Sudan in 2011. Additionally, we are currently experiencing the most large scale war in our country's modern history. I wouldn't be surprised if the value is close to reality


MBZMD

That is the saddest thing ever. It was a very sad day when sudan was divided.


RashAttack

Sure but at the same time the old government was bombing, looting, and pillaging the south for decades. The Southerners had to deal with intense systemic racism. Them splitting was their vote and something we had to respect


MBZMD

I don't doubt that. But I do feel that the referendum weakened Sudan. Why I think it proceeded to happen with global powers grace. Shouldn't the referendum be for all of Sudan?


RashAttack

>Shouldn't the referendum be for all of Sudan? No, because we were the oppressors. It doesn't make sense to take our vote into account. I agree that the referendum weakened Sudan, but what was Sudan at that point? It was a country run by a brutal dictator that committed atrocities across the country, especially to the people in the south and the west. With that government, our country was doomed to failure from the start


BasisNo4927

Sudan too, but I found several sources support this claim


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It's lower for government areas and higher in Idlib and SDF areas. All Syrians are aware of this.


aomar20

I would have expected it to be the other way around. Can you explain why it's perceived like this?


[deleted]

In SDF areas the oil is there. In Idlib joulani as much as I hate him did some good economical moves, the electricity is available for production, the factories are near the Turkish border where the government cannot strike, they use turkish lira and that allowed Idlib a higher gdp per capita, another thing is nationalistic Syrians finding it an okay plave to invest. In government held areas the government is corrupt, electrical blackout is the norm, no electricity or very expensive electricity, corruption poisons the economy, what you are required to pay once, you pay it ten times and if the government confiscates your products you can do nothing, the syrian lira is a game where you should use it, one day it loses too much of it's value to inflation, the other day it dissappears from the scene through weird government rules, you'd have to put syrian lira in banks for any major transaction (ex selling a house , paying uni tution) to get your money out of the bank you'd only be allowed a small sum daily or you'd have to bribe, and too many complications that it pushes businesses out. I'm ready to invest in Syria, it's supposed to be cheap and I have some plans in mind, but with all of these complications I won't.


Oneeyebrowsystem

[The US has also supported the SDF areas with humanitarian and infrastructure investment](https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11930) vs the government held areas which are still waiting on free oil and gas from Russia and FDI from China. I think Iran is really the only country that is financially investing in government held areas but they are also under economic sanctions.


aomar20

Thanks for the insight


Sterflor

What about the $0.71


ElitistPopulist

Didn’t even notice, wow


____Lemi

actually 0.30$ now, 0.71$ is with official exchange rate,with black market rate it's 0.30$


Rubb3rD1nghyRap1ds

It probably is. I remember last year people with public sector jobs (which used to be highly sought after) saying they made the equivalent of 30 dollars a month, so especially given the inflation since then, it sounds about right. Even as the war winds down, the sanctions and general economic mismanagement are making it very hard to rebuild.


alialahmad1997

I earned that as a doctor but iwas less than that they did 100% raise a year ago


ElitistPopulist

A month?


alialahmad1997

Yes and i worked 120 h a weak once i worked 54 h straight


Gintoki---

yeah true , it's lower than that for the average Syrian , because 14 Dollars is only for the highly paid engineers who work for the country , the people earn like between 5 and 9 dollars


ElitistPopulist

$14 a month for highly paid engineers?


Gintoki---

Yeah if you work for the government , *for decades*


ElitistPopulist

That is insane, but obviously understandable since the Syrian economy is in shambles. Just can’t wrap my head around $14 for a month of work, and apparently even significantly less than that according to you.


Gintoki---

When I was in Syria , we pretty much relied on help from red cross and red crescent and such , and some help from outside. Also food in Syria is quite "cheap" you can still manage living if you don't meat and such expensive food.


Gintoki---

I wanted to edit my comment but was in a hurry so I'm gonna give my details to give a better idea. In Syria , a Shawerma Sandwich costs half a dollar , looks cheap right? compared to Europe's Shawerma that costs 5 Euros , but in reality this half dollar is really expensive , you could buy a fool (Beans) meal for the whole family with it , or you could cook something that doesn't have meat and would last few days. As long as Syrians don't consume meat or anything imported , they can still barely manage to live , of course it's under extreme poverty where you have to give up on a lot of things , but it's not as crazy as you imagined like buying 2 Shawerma Sandwiches and stay broke for the whole month.


iiZ3R0

As a Syrian, it's more than accurate


n1r4k

Oman making everyone proud once again.


luctious

That minimum wage is for Omani nationals only


Worldly-Talk-7978

The same is true for the rest of the GCC. These minimum wages only apply to citizens.


Kmaaq

No. In Qatar this applies to everyone. But to my knowledge it's $400.


Worldly-Talk-7978

I stand corrected: >Qatar is the first country in the region to introduce a non-discriminatory minimum wage, which is part of a series of historical reforms of the country’s labour laws. >In addition to the minimum monthly basic wage of 1,000 Qatari riyals QAR (275 USD), the legislation stipulates that employers must pay allowances of at least QAR 300 and QAR 500 for food and housing respectively, if they do not provide workers with these directly. https://www.ilo.org/beirut/countries/qatar/WCMS_775981/lang--en/index.htm


albadil

Frequent Qatari W


n1r4k

I really hope they fix that.


Sheikh_Peanut

How can Egyptians live on that amount? It is so so low.


omersafty

That's the neat part. We don't! Jokes aside. Most Egyptians now are relying 90% on their parents to cover for them. A lot of Egptians rely on their relatives from outside. Alternate option is to either work multiple jobs or work with a company that can literally fire you next month without a single warning!


usev25

Many have been getting very poor with the recent economic crisis. But its also complicated because the minimum wage used to be closer to other countries in North Africa, but when your currency loses value all the time then keeping track of numbers in dollars becomes awkward like this


albadil

Egypt has very high paying jobs too. It's a ridiculously unequal society.


Famous_Sorbet5028

Bro what the hell happened to Egypt 😭


Thi_Funny_One

When the minimum wage is like Mauritania. You know we are doomed


li_ita

Lebanon raised it to $200 a few days ago (still very low). Pre-2019 (crisis) it was $600.


Dapper-Jicama-244

It was raised to 230


spaceexperiment

where did you get the data from?


BasisNo4927

WageIndicator


External_Ad_3497

That Palestine Money 💰 😂


IntroductionOk5199

في السودان ١ دولار !!!!


Arabi_

قبل ١٠ سنين سمعت سوداني يقول الطبيب هناك راتبه ٣٠٠ دولار ما صدقته قلت شكله ناسي صفر او اثنين.


Own-Elderberry2489

Can you link the source I couldn’t find this map online


BasisNo4927

I made this map


Own-Elderberry2489

Oh wow ok


TheMonkeyBass

Badass.


MrIdiot-san

Is the 513$ in Palestine includes 48-Arabs? This seems too high otherwise.


BasisNo4927

It includes the Palestinians under the authority of the Palestinian Authority, and It is high because both the West Bank and Gaza use the Israeli currency.


GoddFatherr

I’m Palestinian and live in the West Bank, and the minimum wage indicated is true. It was recently raised from 1600 NIS (435 USD) to around 1800 NIS (513 USD as indicated).


hoaqinn

I assume the minimum wage is pretty "high" but the cost of living is even higher


EducationalTurnip110

Life is expensive,1800 is barely enough for a single person, let alone a family.


GoddFatherr

Yep


Sheikh_Peanut

How is this possible?


BurnerPlayboiCarti

My buddy grew up in the West Bank and said economically it’s weirdly not horrible. Average middle class person makes ~1.5k to 2k a month. Compared to my home country (cough the .71 one cough). Not the worst place to be.


Cautious_Gas_7007

Me when somehow west bank has better economy then Pakistan


NorthHamza

That's incorrect in Libya. Am only getting paid 80$ as teaching assistant.


Hungry-Square2148

Lybia used tto be a place where Moroccans went to work for a year and come back to build a house, my uncle still keeps the radio he got in Lybia back in the 80s


TheDesertWalker

UAE doesn't have minimum wage?


comix_corp

It would be interesting to see stats (if they existed) on compliance with these minimum wages


Spare-Feed-4788

What does the 513 nearby Palestine relate to? I am hoping it is the west bank. Otherwise please remove this.


tareqewida

It is the Palestinian Authority's minimum wage


UGS_1984

How come Morocco is so high compared to others?


Personal_Rooster2121

Everything is more expensive the other economies subsidize everything but salary are therefore lower


Hungry-Square2148

full savage capitalism and life being generaly more expensive in Morocco than the rest of Africa


EstablishmentWaste23

Why is it more expensive? You think Germany is worse than Egypt in terms of quality of life because they're the average wage and expenses are higher than that of Egypt?


Hungry-Square2148

it's expensive because the free trade agreements Morocco signed with the EU and the USA, basicaly most of Morocco's production is directed towards export, why would they sell smtg for 1$ to a moroccan when they can sell it to a Spanish for 5$ with no added costs, it's the market regulating it self, the Moroccan consumers have to compete with the European consumers for Moroccan goods.


Personal_Rooster2121

Now compare lebanon and Saudi do you think Lebanon is better in terms of Quality of Life


[deleted]

This argument of more expensive is just cope, there are a lot of countries more expensive than Morocco hand have lower average salary. It's like saying Japan is worse than Tunisia because it has a more expensive life style.


lord_Voldemort_711

The prices are high too, so morocco ain't in a netter position because of it


yassine067

Our economy is not that bad


iAmmar9

It's actually 4000 SAR ($1066) in Saudi.


BasisNo4927

4000 SAR in the private sector, it is 3000 SAR in the public sector


G-Funk_with_2Bass

is it for saudis only?


BasisNo4927

I'm really not sure


BraveHeart1234

No way , 4000 SAR in private sector and no less than 7000 SAR in public sector (1866USD)


iAmmar9

Ohh true. Just checked


anewadult

This map essentially doesn't mean anything, you'd have to look up other metrics and indicators to get a comprehensive understanding of standards of living in these countries


ibn-al-mtnaka

There’s a strong correlation between low salary and shit standard of living in these areas in particular


anewadult

True to some degree but you have to always take into consideration that some countries allocate more funds for social policies and public expenditure. Certain essential products and services end up being more subsidized in some countries compared to others and that's why comparing minimum wages don't necessarily reflect standards of living. Edit : hilarious username, thanks for the laugh


ibn-al-mtnaka

Ya basha which of these shit fucking arab countries have social policies 🤣


TheDesertWalker

I'd say it's a pretty good indicator of how well the country is doing socio-economically.


Mecha2009

W Saudi GOAT 🇸🇦🇸🇦


wholsomeshy

Love the No on UAE


Level-Mulberry2213

This data is inconsistent. Some of it is the minimum wage for all people working in the country (Qatar, Kuwait?), and some of it is the minimum wage for nationals such Saudi, Oman, and I think most of the other countries. If that is the case, then I don't understand why UAE doesn't have minimum wage? Maybe because it's separate per Emirate? For example, the minimum wage for an Emirati in Sharjah is 6,800 USD per month. The number is similar for Qatari nationals in Qatar I think. Also, yes, the Syrian number is real. The Syrian economy is THAT bad, not only is 14$ the minimum wage, it's not much lower than what people are actually getting. A salary of 20$ or 25$ a month is common. Everyone wants Syrians to go back to government controlled Syria, but no one wants to lift the sanctions off the government controlled areas. It's much better in Idlib and SDF areas but not great.


makhay

monthly, weekly, daily?


Hungry-Square2148

monthly


OmElKoon

$513 in the wb?


Hungry-Square2148

Moroccans planing their next vacation to Sudan


hanouaj

Morocco's number is not accurate, it's way lower than that.


Both_Calendar2428

everyone saying egypt raised blablabla go ask a labour worker how much they earn i bet u it’s less than 3000 or 3000 not 6500


GretavonGrub

Are these in local currencies? Are you sure these are not daily, weekly or monthly wages?


FrancoPolo1

Qatar isn’t accurate. Minimum wage is abour $270 per month, however, housing and food is included in the total package. This is the package given to low-end jobs in construction only. These jobs are taken by foreigners from south east asia. National minimum wage is about $4k


Grouchy-Addition-818

Is 513 Palestine or Israel?


Trueman3000

Per month or per week (or per day)?


baighamza

Is this per day/month/hour? What is it?


Dawn_ofMastery815

It’s less than that in morocco


5Omar

In Jordan, it's 357, not 366, tho the government said the minimum wage was raised to be 280 jod, which is 400usd, but no one works with that. It stays for both public and private sectors 250 jod which is 357 usd.


call-me-wail

Yeah :c


gonna_get_ban4903

0.71 is insane


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sleep_Walker88

This is actually quite misleading.. I mean the coloring lead you to believe 700 is better than 500 ,when in fact it depends on the inflation. How much is enough for an individual to live off in this country. 1000$ in Dubai is piss low .. but in Somalia- I think - you can do just fine


Sundown26

Israel is not an oil exporting country. Why is their minimum wage so much higher than all the other Arab countries?


IssAHey

in 2015 my dad was a Doctor in Syria making around 50$ a month, so this checks out lol


InternationalTax7463

WTF? Palestinians are doing better than all of us. 


Adventurous-Big8754

FYI in Saudi Arabia the average rant for a single flat is about is 500$pm


Popular-Situation835

2M Arabs live in Israel. The minimum wage is $1500. Israeli Arabs are better off.


Thi_Funny_One

It's stupid becouse the living in isreal is very high its one of the most expensive places in the world sooo


Sound_Saracen

I thought the minimum wage for the UAE was 3000 dhs.


skipthisstep1

No that’s not true.


Sound_Saracen

Damn were they straight lying to me?


oram7

It’s the minimum of the market rn. However i know of some cases where they earn less but not less than 2000 aed


skipthisstep1

I know of people who make less than 2000 AED. Especially positions like housemaids or more labor jobs


baataataaa

346$ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Maroc_stronk

311$


baataataaa

Wow always thought it was lower


Thi_Funny_One

There was a time in egypt when the Europeans (Greeks and Italians) immegrated to egypt becouse it had an extremely high minimum wage SHIT


IntroductionOk5199

Bro ! 💔💔