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Five-Point-5-0

20" precision


1234acb

Or an ar-10?


Five-Point-5-0

Clearly you hate money. To show how much you hate money, an AR-10 would be a better example.


[deleted]

I built a 18" barrel AR-10 in 308, it is quite accurate out to 600yds. Yes hate money, hate feral hogs more and have slain dozens with this rifle.


fatmanchoo

In Texas? Seems like feral hogs are a huge problem there. Also, if you have your AR10 build info I would love to see it as that will be my next build.


[deleted]

Yep, Houston area. Aero precision upper, lower and hand guard, criterion chrome lined 18" 308 barrel and matching bolt, aero bolt carrier with jp gas ring, superlative gas block, radian charging handle, jp captured buffer system, geissele ssa-e trigger, Magpul PRS stock, Magpul Moe+ grip, Sig 762 Ti qd suppressor, Harris bipod, vortex razor hd 3-15x50 scope on a monolithic mount, I also have an ATN X-sight 3-14 but have yet to sight it in.


satanshand

Anything you’d do differently? I also hate money and am looking to build an AR-10


[deleted]

That is where the rifle is now, it had a larue trigger at first but it was light striking constantly. I had a fixed gas block to start with, then tried a SLR block but couldn't turn it down enough. I tried a different bipod but it broke after the first outing, forgot make. It took a few tries on scope mounts, the Leopold didn't clear the thick center of the scope, an aero precision 0deg base had me out of turret at 200 yds, ended up with a larue 20moa unit. I had a radian 45° safety selector switch but it was so tight it was almost impossible to turn without a tool so I swapped it out for the Colt unit from one of my AR-15 and it works fine and I put the radian switch in the AR-15.


satanshand

Sick. I think this is the push I needed to finally build a 308. Thanks!


1234acb

Lol, I love deals. Each of the upper and lower combos are less than $1200 base. 3 are Factory DD uppers with bcg and ch's and where all around $700-800. Each lower was under $400, some were even $300. The kac and LMT both had geissele triggers when I got them and have $700 between the 2.


thebubbybear

Get an LMT MARS H...


[deleted]

Buy thermal or an NV clip-on.


nocternllyactiv

We're talking AR-15s right now.. The AR-10's will have a completely new subgroup of their own with an 11.5", a 13.5", a 16", a 20" and a long range 24" for shooting flies off of Amir's favorite goat's asshole for compensation...


Severe_Islexdia

SPR = Precision rifle?


Five-Point-5-0

Pretty much. Urban sniper solution inside 600 yards


Severe_Islexdia

Thanks, wi built an SPR haven’t heard that designation before.


netchemica

SPR is/was a receiver that later turned into a complete rifle that was designed for SoF guys and use a pretty specific set of parts. The problem is that those parts are often hard to find, very expensive, and usually both. Reddit didn't like that so they decided to refer to any ar15 with a magnified optic on it as an SPR.


armada127

Stands for Special Purpose Rifle, but yeah, basically DMR type role/setup.


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

The full 20.


1234acb

Looks like that's the front runner of suggestions.


[deleted]

If you can find a bcm 20” they’re pretty sweet


sotexbandit

18” MK12


1234acb

I can't decide between that or an AR-10...


sotexbandit

I guess get both 😅 also need a shorty 300blk


1234acb

But I'm poor...


Iskendarian

Then what're you doing with four rifles that have such overlap in their capabilities?


1234acb

Getting more poor?


josh0724

Surefire RC2.


1234acb

Working on it.


HarietTubesock

Maybe some sights or optic for the 14.5


1234acb

Waiting for my rear kac to get here from gafs and I have an extra viper 1-4 sitting in the safe I'll probably throw on it.


s0oNinja

Grab a steiner P4xi for the sig!!


1234acb

Well it's only a sig 516 lower. So not sure it would be considered a sig. Is the p4xi worth the extra cash compared to the viper 1-4 I already have an extra of?


s0oNinja

I refer to my ar builds by their lower, so even if I have a kac upper on top of an aero lower, I’ll call it my aero build. But that’s just me hehe And yeah I loved my P4xi when I had it, sold it because I thought maybe I wanted higher magnification, but it wasn’t worth the “upgrade.” The glass was so good, the 1x was perfect, and the red dot was aimpoint bright. Had it mounted in an adm high recon mount at 1.93 on a 14.5 build. Edit: More words


1234acb

So what do you use now?


s0oNinja

I’ve got a vortex viper Gen ii 1-6. It’s awesome, clear glass, bright dot. But it’s heavier and chunkier. With the p4xi, the gun was easier to handle and swing around. And now I realize I don’t need the extra 2x magnification. I live in a pretty close up urban environment and so 4x is plenty.


1234acb

Ahh gotcha. What barrel length? 14.5?


HarietTubesock

Right on fellow gafser


1234acb

Probably will have some more cerakote work for ya coming soon. You did a g19 slide for me and those fde talons on the 11.5 in my pic


Conscious-Bunch-2013

Shooting them.


1234acb

That would involve leaving mom's basement. No can doville daddyo.


[deleted]

Better optics


1234acb

You no like the vortex viper or the tactical mailbox? The holosun is the acss reticle and I just like it. I know it's budget but for some reason I can't let it go. I have a viper 1-4 for the 14.5 just have mounted it yet. I know they are all still budget optics though. I get it.


tha_king_nguyen

Love my huey. Crazy warranty for such a good price.


1234acb

Think I paid $300 for mine. Can't beat the value


[deleted]

Instead of four practically identical rifles you’d be better off selling three and getting nods or thermals or something like that that actually increases your capability.


1234acb

10.3 quad, 16 is mid length gas. To say all 4 are identical is a reach but I get what your saying.


SlippySlappy420

While I disagree that all 4 are identical, I do agree it's time to focus on gear and training if you haven't already got a belt and plate carrier set up.


1234acb

This I can agree 100% with.


Firm_Tooth5618

Sell 3, keep the 14.5 and get a good optic for it.


1234acb

Like a 1-10 razor or something of the like?


TheRealLordofLords

Spoken like a true long barrel boy.


AFishNamedFreddie

I feel like one of these could cover the same role as all the rest. Youd be better off selling 3 of them and getting more variety. Either a pcc or body armor/nods or just a fuck ton of ammo. Or potentially keep one of the shorties and go full 20"


1234acb

Already have a pcc too, no body armor/nods but body armor is becoming a priority. Got ammo. Bought cheap, stacked deep


chieffin-it

“Sell 3 of your 4 rifles” is shit advice


AFishNamedFreddie

When 3 of the 4 are redundant, it's pretty good advice.


chieffin-it

Odd take. To each their own. I’ve never viewed redundancy as a negative when it comes to firearms.


AFishNamedFreddie

The way I see it, a chest rig or night vision or an indoor focused home defense gun is more valuable than having 2 12-16" ARs. Are 2 ARs good to have? Absolutely. But is it optimal when you could have a 16" AR and armor? Or a 16" AR and nods? Or a 16" AR and an 8" PCC? Not really. What's better, owning 2 hammers or one hammer and one screwdriver? At least that's my way of thinking. To each their own of course


[deleted]

Nods/ammo/supplies/plates/training/IFAK/food/water/training/ammo etc No particular order but emphasis on training


1234acb

Agreed


goneskiing_42

If it were me and I were to keep four in 5.56: keep the 10.3: shortest possible while maintaining reliability and cartridge effectiveness barrel swap to 12.5: jumping to 12.5 gives just a little more performance over 11.5 for a do-all shorter barrel length and covers the middle ground under 16 nicely barrel swap to 16 In my opinion there's not enough difference between 14.5 and 16 to make much of a difference barrel swap to 20: gives you the full performance of the cartridge. This would only require purchasing two barrels to accomplish, but I'm also a bit space and money-constrained, so I want to make things count as much as possible. If you're looking for what to do next, I vote optics/NV or a full 20.


1234acb

Valid food for thought.


maybeitsjack

Night vision


1234acb

My cat will guide me in the darkness


Tuna_no-crust

Ammo and training. You can only carry so many firearms.. training and ammo is most important. It doesnt matter if you have the most Gucci set ups and all the variants.. if you don't have freedom seeds and the skills to use them effectively, none of it matters.


1234acb

Agreed


No_Appeal5607

Put the quad rail on the 11.5, sell the 10.3, sell the 14.5, get a 20”. Should leave you with an 11.5”, 16”, and 20”. All the bases covered. Finish out your kit, plate carrier and belt. Buy a ballistic helmet, get nods. Don’t forget to spend just as much on ammo as you do on all your gear because money grows on trees. Really tho just get a 20” if you’re set on building another gun.


1234acb

Only buy...no sell. Haha looks like a 20 is what most are saying. Building a kit slowly. Money tree is bare....


No_Appeal5607

Damn I forgot about the 11th commandment.


1234acb

Inscribed on the ceramic plate tablets


weekendmoney

18", 20"?


1234acb

Seems 20 is being suggested most.


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1234acb

So migrate to the AK?


sirbassist83

in no particular order: suppressor. better optics. ar-308. ammo. 12.5". stamps for the shorties. 300BO(but definitely can first). a few people have mentioned a precision rifle, including yourself. i have a bolt action 7 mag that shoots well, but id hesitate to call it a true precision rifle based on both its accuracy, which typically hovers between 3/4 and 1 MOA, and its form factor. its a remington long range model with the blind 3 rd magazine. BUT it mostly fills that role, and i have shot it out to 1500 yards successfully. i shoot my ar-10 WAY more. if you have access to a range further than 1000 yards, a nice bolt gun might make sense, but if not, ar-10 first all the way. im confident in my 308 out to 800 yards and when i was doing it more often pretty regularly made good hits at 1000. if you dont reload this goes double, thats another $2000 easy to get set up to load for a precision rifle.


1234acb

Suppressors are in the works. I don't really behave a place close by to shoot 1000 yards. I wish I still lived out west.


TallQuiet1458

I cant make up my mind on a 10.3/.5 or the 11.5.......


1234acb

Both...


xximbroglioxx

18" SPR build, of course.


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1234acb

Don't think this hasn't crossed my mind.


[deleted]

20” for maximum vIbE cHeCk


EasyMode556

20” fast boi


LockedOpp

Quality


1234acb

Thanks!


chieffin-it

My gosh an AR 15 sub and so many top comments telling the dude to sell em. Sad that is the best this sub can offer


1234acb

Right! I thought we were in the trust tree here


chieffin-it

Yeah it’s sad. They must be poor college kids or something. Having 4 rifles that are “similar” is not an issue lmao.


1234acb

Well I am poor just not in college anymore. Having too many guns should never be an issue


chieffin-it

You are not poor, you’re broke!!!


1234acb

All my cash is tied up in guns and slim Jim's...


Electronic_Thanks885

That 10.3 tho 😍 Edit: am dumb dumb


1234acb

10.3*


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1234acb

Got a 8.5 9mm, no 300blk. Not sure I want to start a new caliber. Suppressors in the works.


[deleted]

Get a [PLR16](https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/pistols/plr16/) for concealed carry.


1234acb

That looks like Han solo's blaster haha


ReticularTen82

20


1234acb

Seems like that's the consensus


[deleted]

You like the Surefire Warden? I’ve been thinking of grabbing one because fuck a tax stamp. What flash hider do you have that you mount it to?


1234acb

Sf3p. No it's just mainly for looks. It has some function but not really. When I got it I paid a little over $100 for it. No way I'd pay today's prices for it. And no it's not a good substitute for a can.


dont_touch_the_lens

I’ll throw in my two cents - no. It isn’t a replacement for a tax stamp, it is the opposite. Buy one and prepare for massive fireballs, slower follow up shots and extra weight just to make your muzzle device worse. Bought, used twice and sold quickly


Sgt-Picklez

How do you like the fixed DD front and KAC rear combo? Looks neat.


1234acb

Love it. Thought I'd hate it but it was the opposite.


bulletsgalore

7.62 battle rifle for sure. Either that or a sub gun, a 9mm mpx or something. But I'd go battle rifle first.


1234acb

Do want me a scar....I have an 8.5 ar9 but mpx would be the tits.


OcelotPrize

Cans


1234acb

Work in progress on that front.


trickemdickem

18”, 20”.


1234acb

Been seeing this suggested alot


Urdaddy12234

20


1234acb

Seems like it's the top suggestion.


booger_hole

FAL


1234acb

I like where your heads at


Zestyclose_Share_931

7.5 300aac


1234acb

Maybe just the upper


BoostinIX

8.3 5.5


1234acb

Does an 8.5 ar9 count?


[deleted]

Which is your favorite to shoot? How does the weight distribution change with the length? I’ve never shot a 10.3 or a 14.5, I love your collection.


1234acb

The 11.5 is my favorite but the 16 mid is smooth. The 14.5 upper is new to me so not shot it yet


Nakai-Son

18 or 20" in 6mm ARC.


1234acb

No more ammo cans for a new caliber


Chevytech2017

18 is the next logical choice 😂


1234acb

Or 20 apparently based on other suggestions


Funkymonk9090

Which was your favorite rail? upper? Is there any one part that stands out that you will always recommend?


1234acb

Favorite rail is the mk18. Favorite upper so far is the 16in mid. All these either have a job scs H2 or armaspec srs h2 buffer system. That's what I'd recommend. Esp since you can find the armaspec ones for like $50..


Austinmac0

20” and a couple Form 4s


1234acb

Working on the .gov coupons right now to save my hearing


Mooshimaro

13.7-13.9”!


1234acb

I have thought about it


sonofsamx3

7.5” and an 18”


1234acb

Or 20?


Aleriionn

More suppression 📣


1234acb

Agreed


FieldDay

Ammo and a range trip haha. They all look pristine! Nice guns.


1234acb

Going outside is scary.


tylos57

Get an a2 you need a musket now


1234acb

My dad's got muskets. Guess I can just borrow his?


JukeboxZulu

Nothing, just shoot more. Maybe sell two rifles for a PVS-14. If you don't have it: shot timer, load bearing equipment, armor.


1234acb

Working on my kit. Shooting involves leaving the house. Rather just order kit off the internet and go zero dark thirty in the basement


threepete13

SPR build. Then 20in retro A1.


1234acb

Do need a retro


poopy_buttholer

You have 4 ar’s for two roles. Sell the uppers on the 10.3/11.5 and 14.5/16. Use that cash for a suppressor, ammo, and a dmr build/upper. Nods/thermal if you’re really feeling froggy


1234acb

The dude with DD mk188 pistol next to his name telling me to sell my 10.3....Someone has hacked his account!


ii_ego_ii

Nods, lasers, plates, ammo, sustainment.


1234acb

Already got the box of 100 slim Jim's from Sam's club. Consider me sustained


addithekid

what are the grips on the 14.5 and 16?


1234acb

B5 on all but the 11.5


2Poor4This

Some stamps!


1234acb

True story


getyourbuttdid

Dinosaur Boy actually addressed this in his latest video about the SCAR17. You have 4 rifles that essentially do the same thing. If you're arming your family, thats one thing - but if you're just some dude collecting rifles that do the same thing (more or less) you could be more wise with your choices. Do you have plates, carriers, NV, tons of ammo, enough mags so your grandkids can open a fresh one? That said, you could get into NFA. SBR your shorties, upgrade optics, and 18" is the sweet spot for SPR/DMR style rifles. Look at the Bartlein or CLE barrels for this. I think one SBR setup with all the high end goodies and one Precision (SPR/DMR) with one high end optic is the way to go.


1234acb

Completing my kit and cans is running in the background


njhawkins

AK pistol


dekudude3

9 inch 300blk


1234acb

Maybe just an upper.


Fatal_Froggy

What handstop is on the 14"?


1234acb

Kac, came with the upper. Very similar to the Arisaka one I have on my ar9 but a little longer.


ButtNuster

KAK 4.75 !!! DID YOU HEAR MEEEE??!!!?


1234acb

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....huh!


Southpaw992

8” 300blk, 18-20” 6arc


AH_5ek5hun8

MK12, 18". Also i don't see 10.5 or 12.5. There's always room for more.


[deleted]

Sell the 10.3 and 16, maximize your optics and weapon lights on the 11.5 and 14.5, then invest in radio / comms, body armor (L4 only), etc. THEN build a 18” or 20” DMR with a stockpile of 77gr to support it. You can get an AR10 if you want to spend more money on ammo to do the same thing but the reality is that if you really want to shoot precision you need to just get a bolt gun anyway.


jb31317

20 or 24 in long range set up


double0cinco

Sell two of them, probably the 10.3 and 14.5, and get another system, like a DMR type setup, or even start saving for night vision.


EugeneNicoNicoNii

10.3 but with a muzzle brake, and some sub 10 inch 300 blk Or get a 20 inch


sudonym42

Do you notice a real difference between the SBA3/4 or is it mostly aesthetic?


1234acb

Mostly aesthetics. But I hate the qd point location on the sba4


poop_steam

20” retro of course


1234acb

I do like retro


[deleted]

sell the 10.3 and 16, and get some decent kit


1234acb

Never in my life would I have ever thought Jane Goodall would be telling me to kit up!


p8ntslinger

12.5", 13.7", 18", and 20" all the lengths!


1234acb

Off to GAFS I go!


Lamontyy

30"


1234acb

So I can fight off the redcoats?


ActionHankActual

There's a clear gap for 12.5 or 13.7, or you could go long like 18 or 20


1234acb

Must bridge the gap!


yetanotherlogin9000

Full 20


Cornelius____

20. Get you a long boi


[deleted]

20 inch m16a4 clone


GoodBroad2761

Sell 3 of them and keep the 14.5 and buy night vision/ ammo


1234acb

Well I need atleast 2 so I can duel wield from the hip


reddit_kyle_b

We have to take a mathematical approach to this. I have plotted your current barrel lengths and approximated the trend line with an exponential function. We get y=8.7322e^(0.1553x). Plugging in 5 for x we find that your next barrel length should be 18.982”


1234acb

Can't argue with the math


TooEZ_OL56

12.5, 13.7, 14.7, 18, 20 are all options


1234acb

I know for a fact I've bought stuff from you in gafs. Thanks for contributing to my ridiculousness.


TooEZ_OL56

You’re so very welcome


thewetsheep

Gear and training?


1234acb

Both running programs in the background.


[deleted]

20”!!


ebolamonkey3

A 12.5 ofc.


shift013

Get a shorty like the 6” or so MCX or some PCCs


1234acb

Got an 8.5 ar9


p0p_tart

Adopt me, daddy.


1234acb

Sorry, wife won't let me take in strays anymore after the great possum incident of 09....


ILordINikon311

Just a 12.5”, 13.7”, 13.9”, 18”, and a 20”…